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Chata & nayuta - Yuune Zekka, Ryouran no Sai [Taiko]

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Surono
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 25 Nopember 2018 at 22:45:39

Artist: Chata & nayuta
Title: Yuune Zekka, Ryouran no Sai
Source: 東方花映塚　～ Phantasmagoria of Flower View.
Tags: Touhou Kaeitzuka Project Felsic Mirage EastNewSound East New Sound ENS Kazami Yuuka theme Gensokyo Past and Present ~ Flower Land kokuchou usagi kinoko ZUN dnb drum bass Marathon いずみん izumin 黒鳥
BPM: 165
Filesize: 9589kb
Play Time: 06:21
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  1. Kioku (4,45 stars, 1942 notes)
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- re arrange
Surono
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Topic Starter
Surono


*Surnohh just sad react. only,
[R]
1,058 posts
Joined November 2013
[R]
yo

[Macan]
00:52:527 - ganti don, gak pas ngikutin piano disini
01:04:345 - ganti don, low pitch
01:09:709 - move 01:09:527 - agak sedikit weird karena ada SV disini
01:43:163 - change kat,untuk variasi, atau invert 01:42:345 (60,61,62) - kebanyakan ddk ey
02:22:436 - move 02:22:254 -

02:28:072 - add note ? increasing buat ngasih perbedaan di part pertama
02:39:709 - ^

04:12:981 - add note, disini notenya jadi lebih sedikit dibanding part 02:26:890 -
04:13:345 - add note
04:31:072 - change don, buat emphasize 04:31:254 -

04:59:799 - coba add note dan 04:59:981 - ganti kat buat nyambung ke guitar, 04:59:527 - serasa weird pianonya kalo berhenti disini


yah mungkin cuma segitu aja dari gw
cya
Surono
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Topic Starter
Surono

[R] wrote:

yo

[Macan *kenapa macannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!11)]
00:52:527 - ganti don, gak pas ngikutin piano disini berlebihan toh
01:04:345 - ganti don, low pitch 01:04:527 - sinilah.. gw suka base-sound dari dnbnya ;w;
01:09:709 - move 01:09:527 - agak sedikit weird karena ada SV disini ada suara disitu, tapi ya ntar liat orang laen aja nanggepinnya. cuma maslah sv keknya *aku ndak tau mau ngapain ke svnya, cuma ikut intense suara jadi kosong jadi pake sv gituan*
01:43:163 - change kat,untuk variasi, atau invert 01:42:345 (60,61,62) - kebanyakan ddk ey brah, gw ikut gitarnya. level nada dari si liriknya juga sama2 aja
02:22:436 - move 02:22:254 - like before

02:28:072 - add note ? increasing buat ngasih perbedaan di part pertama berlebihan bagiku brah, kalau emang bosenin ya jgn dimaenin :U *I did some variety colors instead, dont worry.. kalau increasing khusus kek di kiai trakhir, ga lebih2*
02:39:709 - ^ like b4

04:12:981 - add note, disini notenya jadi lebih sedikit dibanding part 02:26:890 - vokal/pengiringnya lemah banget brah ;ww;
04:13:345 - add note lik b4
04:31:072 - change don, buat emphasize 04:31:254 - pianos gilas abizzzzzzzzzz >:V

04:59:799 - coba add note dan 04:59:981 - ganti kat buat nyambung ke guitar, 04:59:527 - serasa weird pianonya kalo berhenti disini leh uga


yah mungkin cuma segitu aja dari gw
cya
menggilas sekalich
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popopo
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Joined August 2013
popopo
rand0m m0ddddddddd

Kioku
00:22:709 - k ( sebelumnya ngikutin suara ini, jadi mestinya perlu ditambahin kat lagi di bagian ini utk konsistensi )
00:22:890 - k ^
00:23:072 - k ^
00:23:254 - k ^
00:32:618 (106) - d ( kayaknya lebih pas aja suaranya, terserah mau diganti atau nggak )
00:55:890 (63) - d ^ sama kayak yg di atas => utk di 02:31:890 (97) dan seterusnya juga sama
00:59:254 - K ( 00:35:981 (122) disini pake K ) => utk di 02:35:254 (113) dan seterusnya juga sama
01:52:799 (131) - delete => utk di 03:28:799 (133) dan seterusnya juga sama
01:57:799 - 02:01:254 dan 02:09:436 - 02:12:890 dan 03:33:799 - 03:37:254 seterusnya bisa ditambahin 1/4 mungkin drpd kosongan 1/2 semua (?)
02:14:527 (11) - d ( suara sama kayak 02:02:890 (185) )
03:15:072 (38) - d
03:22:799 (89) - delete ( setelah pattern genap mungkin lebih baik ga langsung 1/4, dsni juga 03:24:163 (100,101,102) bisa diganti )
03:50:527 (11) - d
04:27:618 (69) - move to 04:27:799 ( ikutin vocalnya aja deh mendingan )
04:27:890 (70) - move to 04:27:981 ^
04:35:436 (97) - delete
04:39:254 (111) - move to 04:39:436 ^^
04:39:527 (112) - move to 04:39:618 ^^
04:57:436 - mungkin sv nya bisa dinaekin dikit biar baca 1/4 genapnya gak susah (?)
05:38:163 (48) - d
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Surono

steven1 wrote:

rand0m m0ddddddddd

[Kioku]00:22:709 - k ( sebelumnya ngikutin suara ini, jadi mestinya perlu ditambahin kat lagi di bagian ini utk konsistensi )
00:22:890 - k ^
00:23:072 - k ^
00:23:254 - k ^ iya bener, tapi sbnernya ga ngikut itu.. soalnya 00:22:345 - disini sfxnya udah berhenti. *suara pengiring yg kek "ssksk sskksskk" udah ga ada * emang sengaja kosong sesuai sfx soundnya
00:32:618 (106) - d ( kayaknya lebih pas aja suaranya, terserah mau diganti atau nggak ) makasih udah ngepoint ini, disini saya mending pake kat soalnya nada2 udah tinggi dibanding pola2 di selanjutnya *apa lagi di kiai, kebanyakan vokal udah di terapin kkddk* jadi disini buat pembanding
00:55:890 (63) - d ^ sama kayak yg di atas => utk di 02:31:890 (97) dan seterusnya juga sama reason same above
00:59:254 - K ( 00:35:981 (122) disini pake K ) => utk di 02:35:254 (113) dan seterusnya juga sama ^
01:52:799 (131) - delete => utk di 03:28:799 (133) dan seterusnya juga sama intense dari vokal sama pengiringnya *terutama gitar* tinggi, jadi keep aja dulu
01:57:799 - 02:01:254 dan 02:09:436 - 02:12:890 dan 03:33:799 - 03:37:254 seterusnya bisa ditambahin 1/4 mungkin drpd kosongan 1/2 semua (?)itu sbnernya dasar2 suara ddkd 1/2 tapi kalau kepikiran buat nambah stream lagi bingung juga. emang sengaja disini pola 1/2 (kebanyakan nada2 penting di 1/2) dan beberapa 1/4 yg ikut piano
02:14:527 (11) - d ( suara sama kayak 02:02:890 (185) ) aslinya buat variasi, kalau emang mau dibuat sama untuk konsistensi. oke
03:15:072 (38) - d keep, dua kat itu suara vokalnya sama
03:22:799 (89) - delete ( setelah pattern genap mungkin lebih baik ga langsung 1/4, dsni juga 03:24:163 (100,101,102) bisa diganti ) re-arranged
03:50:527 (11) - d ok
04:27:618 (69) - move to 04:27:799 ( ikutin vocalnya aja deh mendingan ) aneh itu wkwkw malah kek spam kat di bagian slow. 04:27:890 - aku pindahin ini ke kanan
04:27:890 (70) - move to 04:27:981 ^ yes
04:35:436 (97) - delete no.. vokal ;w; build new pattern
04:39:254 (111) - move to 04:39:436 ^^ y
04:39:527 (112) - move to 04:39:618 ^^ ,.
04:57:436 - mungkin sv nya bisa dinaekin dikit biar baca 1/4 genapnya gak susah (?) keknya segitu aja ckup. soalnya pattern 1/4 ga banyak banget
05:38:163 (48) - d ini variasi dari si vokal
ty ty!!
_mp1506
248 posts
Joined April 2014
_mp1506
ga banyak bisa kumod darisini krn mapnya udh punya "individualitas" yang kyknya saya ga bisa edit wkwkw
tp ad 3 bagian yang ane ga suka banget: yha yang SV 2.00 itu
23:618
2:22:890
4:10:527
^deemed too fast for mortals eye not at the right place
P.S. kalo dikasih elemen kejut sih gw setuju bagus juga tp kayaknya terlalu cepet :((
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Surono

Shirai- wrote:

ga banyak bisa kumod darisini krn mapnya udh punya "individualitas" yang kyknya saya ga bisa edit wkwkw
tp ad 3 bagian yang ane ga suka banget: yha yang SV 2.00 itu
23:618
2:22:890
4:10:527
^deemed too fast for mortals eye not at the right place
P.S. kalo dikasih elemen kejut sih gw setuju bagus juga tp kayaknya terlalu cepet :((
okelah, gw coba turunin dkit.. yah kali, di awal kan udah ada itu sv.. jadi udah ke inform kalau dibagian2 gitu ada. biar tambah asik, dari pada bengong pas maen mending jreng kwkwk

makasih makasih
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,108 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool
ok

whyyy od6.5 on residentsleeper bpm................;;; od6??

[Kioku]
* - 00:47:981 (20) -/ - 00:59:618 (81) - remove to emphasize the vocal follow?
* - 01:31:799 (236) - remove? i know there is a note but i think break is better after a big note. maybe move it to - 01:32:163 - instead idk.
* - 01:39:981 - to - 01:43:981 - i think this is too dense already, better start density at the second half if the kiai at - 01:45:799 -. => - 01:40:254 (44,45) - / - 01:42:436 (61) - / - 01:42:709 (63) -remove to emphasize the vocal. if you do, maybe change - 01:43:072 (65,66,67,68,69,70) - to something else like ddkdd k instead of ddk ddk?
* - 01:56:890 (153) - make it a finisher too???
* - 02:17:345 (22) - feelsweirdman, remove or make it ddk starting 1/4 tick earlier??
* - 02:23:981 (54) - / - 02:35:618 (115) - refer to first suggestion.
* - 03:07:799 (271) - second suggestion.
* - 03:15:981 - / - 03:19:981 - third suggestion.
* - 03:32:890 (154) - fourth suggestion.
* - 03:53:345 (22) - fifth suggestion kek.
* - 04:05:436 - why no note here but one at - 03:59:618 (2) -??
* - 04:20:527 (45) -.
* - 04:43:072 - maybe start the spinner here? i would even start it instead of the k before but it' ok for the vocal soo..
* - 04:59:436 (2,3,4) - ey what about dk kd instead of kk -d?? sounds much cooler and support the k sound at - 04:59:436 -.
* - 05:15:254 - / - 05:19:254 - less denser suggestion again.
* - 05:48:618 (122) - unecessary id delete.
* - 06:15:890 (22) -.
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ok
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Surono

Nofool wrote:

ok o

whyyy od6.5 on residentsleeper bpm................;;; od6?? NGAHAHAHAHAhahAHa, hehihihihih. oke k changed OD to sick

[Kioku]
* - 00:47:981 (20) -/ - 00:59:618 (81) - remove to emphasize the vocal follow? k
* - 01:31:799 (236) - remove? i know there is a note but i think break is better after a big note. maybe move it to - 01:32:163 - instead idk. k
* - 01:39:981 - to - 01:43:981 - i think this is too dense already, better start density at the second half if the kiai at - 01:45:799 - MADNESSSsss. => - 01:40:254 (44,45) - / - 01:42:436 (61) - / - 01:42:709 (63) -remove to emphasize the vocal kkkkkk. if you do, maybe change - 01:43:072 (65,66,67,68,69,70) - to something else like ddkdd k instead of ddk ddk? GUUD!1111
* - 01:56:890 (153) - make it a finisher too??? Yusgh DUHDD, more madness!1111
* - 02:17:345 (22) - feelsweirdman, remove or make it ddk starting 1/4 tick earlier?? feelsbatman, just changed 02:17:345 - to d
* - 02:23:981 (54) - / - 02:35:618 (115) - refer to first suggestion. ok
* - 03:07:799 (271) - second suggestion.
* - 03:15:981 - / - 03:19:981 - third suggestion.
* - 03:32:890 (154) - fourth suggestion.
* - 03:53:345 (22) - fifth suggestion kek. yeah MADNESS FINISHASHHHH, OSASH >:V
* - 04:05:436 - why no note here but one at - 03:59:618 (2) -?? k, forget or me cant listen or idk., ., ., .,
* - 04:20:527 (45) -. YEAH MADNESS KK KA KA,. I do DON., aheuaehuhe
* - 04:43:072 - maybe start the spinner here? i would even start it instead of the k before but it' ok for the vocal soo.. MADNESS, keep., cuz flow of dem SFX shitgood is yummy
* - 04:59:436 (2,3,4) - ey what about dk kd instead of kk -d?? sounds much cooler and support the k sound at - 04:59:436 -. interesting, sir
* - 05:15:254 - / - 05:19:254 - less denser suggestion again.
* - 05:48:618 (122) - unecessary id delete.
* - 06:15:890 (22) -.
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ok
ok, tank veri much., i forget to answer. but it was applied!!!111
gaston_2199
1,179 posts
Joined February 2015
gaston_2199
Yeah, back :^)
[ Kioku]
  1. 00:28:890 (83,84) - This should be kdk for drum property and follow better the piano
  2. 00:49:981 - Add kat? Feels empty, follow the electro rythm
  3. 01:03:799 (101,102,103) - Why not swap with 00:52:163 (41,42,43) - ? dkk in the first part is better per higher tone of the piano and dkd in the second per lower tone
  4. 01:57:799 - I consider long this pattern 1/2. I suggest to keep the consistency with breaks removing some notes. Maybe remove 01:58:709 (158) - and also (if you like) 02:00:163 (166) -
  5. 02:02:436 (179) - Moving this to 02:02:254 - I think is more comfortable and follow the drum and change to don?
  6. 02:30:163 (85,86,87) - The tone is low for kkk. Change to kdd
  7. 04:48:345 - I think adding some kats to follow the guitar a little looks good, idk
  8. 05:00:709 - Same as above
Don't give me kudos if it not helped, sorry for short mod :?
Good luck~
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Topic Starter
Surono

gaston_2199 wrote:

Yeah, back :^) 👀
[ Kioku]
  1. 00:28:890 (83,84) - This should be kdk for drum property and follow better the piano low to high, kdk good if both of kat emphasize same level sounds.
  2. 00:49:981 - Add kat? Feels empty, follow the electro rythm thats enough with current, calm part.
  3. 01:03:799 (101,102,103) - Why not swap with 00:52:163 (41,42,43) - ? dkk in the first part is better per higher tone of the piano and dkd in the second per lower tone a
  4. 01:57:799 - I consider long this pattern 1/2. I suggest to keep the consistency with breaks removing some notes. Maybe remove 01:58:709 (158) - and also (if you like) 02:00:163 (166) - fine, I wanted to emphasized all here
  5. 02:02:436 (179) - Moving this to 02:02:254 - I think is more comfortable and follow the drum and change to don? keep, the current well emphasized with noticeable sounds
  6. 02:30:163 (85,86,87) - The tone is low for kkk. Change to kdd b
  7. 04:48:345 - I think adding some kats to follow the guitar a little looks good, idk lul keep
  8. 05:00:709 - Same as above yeah but did something in the next part
Don't give me kudos if it not helped, sorry for short mod :? :^V
Good luck~
<3 ~
Skylish
1,069 posts
Joined June 2013
Skylish
IRC sharing, JUST, with Indomie Surono
017-06-12 20:34 Surono: typing /np
2017-06-12 20:34 Surono: awfyahwfgwawa
2017-06-12 20:35 Skylish: arh? :thinking:
2017-06-12 20:35 Surono: hhhhhhhhh
2017-06-12 21:52 Surono: srsbnsbsn play ma kioku
2017-06-12 21:53 Skylish: you wanna have a testplay on kioku?
2017-06-12 21:54 Surono: ooooooo
2017-06-12 21:54 Surono: srsbnsbnsbn, i luv sir ono words.
2017-06-12 21:55 Skylish: oh dem
2017-06-12 21:55 Skylish: I mis-read something
2017-06-12 21:55 Surono: a
2017-06-12 21:55 Surono: asdfsadfsd
2017-06-12 21:57 Surono: KIKOKU
2017-06-12 21:59 Skylish: my osu is laggy
2017-06-12 21:59 Surono: b
2017-06-12 21:59 Skylish: I dont know why
2017-06-12 21:59 Skylish: wth
2017-06-12 21:59 Skylish: re-start
2017-06-12 21:59 Surono: afsdfsafd
2017-06-12 21:59 Surono: h
2017-06-12 21:59 Surono: LMAO osu!lazer otw will kill ur pc, me too tbh smh.
2017-06-12 22:06 Skylish: those ninja K
2017-06-12 22:06 Skylish: those SV arts
2017-06-12 22:06 Skylish: can be improved
2017-06-12 22:07 Skylish: those ninja are too fast imo, and the SV arts in the linking parts could be smoother
2017-06-12 22:07 Surono: :VVVVVVVVVVVVVVvv
2017-06-12 22:07 Surono: S V A R T S
2017-06-12 22:07 Surono: hmmm
2017-06-12 22:07 Skylish: In terms of density, I expect that kiais have high density
2017-06-12 22:07 Skylish: the current one seems too low generally speaking
2017-06-12 22:07 Surono: yehs
2017-06-12 22:08 Skylish: those 7-plets are not enough, the overall density in Kiai should be increased
2017-06-12 22:08 Surono: dem?
2017-06-12 22:08 Surono: so... adding more stream? like 3plet/5plet?
2017-06-12 22:08 Skylish: yup. adding more triplets are good
2017-06-12 22:08 Skylish: and some 5-plets
2017-06-12 22:08 Surono: :^^^^^^^^^^^^)
2017-06-12 22:08 Skylish: to make the map less boring
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: 01:39:072 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) -
2017-06-12 22:09 Surono: jst like last half of kiai?
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: such as this kind of patterns
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: 1/1 spamming
2017-06-12 22:09 Surono: ooohhh
2017-06-12 22:09 Surono: kekeke.
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: strange, comparing with 01:41:618 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58) -
2017-06-12 22:09 Surono: yea suddenly structure
2017-06-12 22:09 Surono: oki i got it :^
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: the second part of Kiai (01:45:436 - )
2017-06-12 22:09 Skylish: the density is good
2017-06-12 22:10 Surono: hmm, and daa bout svs?
2017-06-12 22:10 Skylish: I am just a bit confused with 01:45:981 (79,80,81,82) - / 01:47:436 (90,91,92,93) -
2017-06-12 22:10 Skylish: quite sudden too
2017-06-12 22:10 Surono: bg sounds xd
2017-06-12 22:10 Surono: lol madnuts pattorn
2017-06-12 22:10 Skylish: yes, I just find it a bit weird, but that's fine
2017-06-12 22:10 Surono: woird mappu dezu
2017-06-12 22:11 Skylish: Ninjas could be just 1.75X
2017-06-12 22:11 Surono: ohhh recued?
2017-06-12 22:11 Surono: *reduccc
2017-06-12 22:11 Skylish: 2.0X is barely visible (almost can't see)
2017-06-12 22:11 Surono: XDDDDDd
2017-06-12 22:11 Skylish: cant react lol
2017-06-12 22:11 Surono: too ninjas
2017-06-12 22:11 Surono: wussssshhhh
2017-06-12 22:11 Skylish: yeah too ninja
2017-06-12 22:12 Skylish: maybe 1.75X
2017-06-12 22:12 Surono: yeah someone notice it too but i forget to chane it
2017-06-12 22:12 Surono: then graveyard longtim ago
2017-06-12 22:14 Skylish: I am checking other SVs
2017-06-12 22:14 Skylish: for example: 02:22:345 (46,47,48,49,50,51) -
2017-06-12 22:15 Skylish: they are fine and visible, but should something similar be done at 01:55:981 (144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151) - ?
2017-06-12 22:15 Skylish: because these music sound pretty similar
2017-06-12 22:15 Surono: 01:55:981 (144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151) - so in here applied slowdown sv?
2017-06-12 22:15 Surono: oki~
2017-06-12 22:16 Skylish: wait, lemme talk more:
2017-06-12 22:16 Skylish: 01:55:436 (142,143) -
2017-06-12 22:16 Surono: yeah similar @<@
2017-06-12 22:16 Surono: dem
2017-06-12 22:16 Skylish: you use 1.05 and 1.00 respectively, right?
2017-06-12 22:16 Surono: dat lul
2017-06-12 22:16 Surono: yes
2017-06-12 22:16 Skylish: you can remain them as 1.1
2017-06-12 22:16 Skylish: until 01:55:981 -
2017-06-12 22:17 Skylish: slow down the SV at 01:55:981 -
2017-06-12 22:18 Skylish: ** take reference as 02:22:345 (46,47,48,49,50,51) - , you know what to do my boi :>
2017-06-12 22:18 Surono: :V yea dem sir
2017-06-12 22:18 Skylish: This suggestion is applicable to all parts in Kiais
2017-06-12 22:20 Skylish: 04:22:527 - / 04:23:981 - / 04:25:436 -
2017-06-12 22:20 Skylish: okay you have 1.0x 0.9x 0.8x
2017-06-12 22:21 Surono: mmmmmmhhhhhhh~
2017-06-12 22:21 Skylish: I am a bit questionable about the usage here, since from 04:22:527 - to 04:42:890 - , the dynamic (volume) of the music remains the same
2017-06-12 22:22 Skylish: why would you like to use those SV changes there?
2017-06-12 22:22 Skylish: otherwise, you may unite them as ONE low SV in this section
2017-06-12 22:22 Surono: ohhh...
2017-06-12 22:23 Surono: so.. how the value as one sv?
2017-06-12 22:23 Surono: bad math xddddddd
2017-06-12 22:23 Skylish: you mainly use 0.8x, so 0.8x is good to go
2017-06-12 22:24 Surono: :"V im not sv mapper lool
2017-06-12 22:24 Skylish: maybe you want to have that SV ladders down there, I just want to know why you mapped like that
2017-06-12 22:25 Surono: hmmm
2017-06-12 22:26 Surono: 04:23:254 - sfx in this, like wind breeze.. maybe thats the reason why I put ladders sv
2017-06-12 22:26 Surono: okok? @_@
2017-06-12 22:27 Skylish: that's not really noticeable though, if you want to keep that, just keep it
2017-06-12 22:27 Skylish: it's fine
2017-06-12 22:27 Surono: mmmmmhhh dem stylish
2017-06-12 22:27 Skylish: 04:45:799 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - do some volume changes please
2017-06-12 22:27 Surono: gg
2017-06-12 22:27 Skylish: what the hell dont be lazy :(
2017-06-12 22:27 Surono: hhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-06-12 22:27 Skylish: 04:45:799 - this is much louder than just 60% LOL
2017-06-12 22:27 Surono: XDDDD
2017-06-12 22:28 Surono: oki~~~~~
2017-06-12 22:28 Surono: down volume right?
2017-06-12 22:28 Surono: yeh down :"V lul why me askin
2017-06-12 22:28 Skylish: increase the volume my boi
2017-06-12 22:28 Skylish: Start from high
2017-06-12 22:28 Skylish: end in low
2017-06-12 22:28 Skylish: you can hear that
2017-06-12 22:29 Skylish: :^)
2017-06-12 22:29 Skylish: Start from HIGH volume, gradually decrease the volume
2017-06-12 22:29 Skylish: you know how to do again
2017-06-12 22:29 Surono: :^^^^^^V u noice at listening dem
2017-06-12 22:29 Surono: yehhh, ty.
2017-06-12 22:30 Surono: any u want point again//?!?! i will gibb u kudozzzsttttt
2017-06-12 22:30 Skylish: 05:00:163 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part is weird with the previous part
2017-06-12 22:30 Skylish: lower density without kat
2017-06-12 22:30 Skylish: comparing with 04:57:436 - this part
2017-06-12 22:30 Surono: 04:49:072 - asdasdfasdfasd
2017-06-12 22:30 Skylish: ** I will post this IRC chat to the thread
2017-06-12 22:30 Surono: from theres copypastaaaaa
2017-06-12 22:31 Surono: xddddd
2017-06-12 22:31 Surono: ~ 04:51:254 -
2017-06-12 22:31 Skylish: you changed the pasta to Indomie at 04:57:436 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - LMAO
2017-06-12 22:31 Surono: LMAO INDOMIE
2017-06-12 22:31 Surono: HEUHEUHE.
2017-06-12 22:32 Surono: nardo's fav food Wwwwwww
2017-06-12 22:32 Surono: too much eating indomie is dem too xd but really yummy kek LUL
2017-06-12 22:32 Skylish: yeah, so 05:00:345 - should look like 04:57:436 - because of new sturcture was already used
2017-06-12 22:33 Skylish: meanwhile, it seems something missed at between them 05:00:254 (7,8) -
2017-06-12 22:33 Skylish: * delete 'at'
2017-06-12 22:33 Surono: 05:00:345 - asdafsd this place
2017-06-12 22:35 Skylish: 05:06:163 - where are those 1.1x 1.2x 1.3x SV changes?
2017-06-12 22:35 Skylish: comparing with 01:30:890 -
2017-06-12 22:35 Surono: ohhhh
2017-06-12 22:35 Surono: intentionally just simple like that, okey if I try with increasing sv
2017-06-12 22:36 Surono: wussssss
2017-06-12 22:36 Skylish: 05:08:709 - notice the Ninja here?
2017-06-12 22:36 Surono: but the current seems ok, just just flat flow or idk :V
2017-06-12 22:36 Skylish: you have SV build-ups before Ninja
2017-06-12 22:37 Surono: oh yesh... dem build up
2017-06-12 22:37 Skylish: It is the only place you do not have SV build-ups
2017-06-12 22:37 Skylish: so I think it'd be better to keep them
2017-06-12 22:37 Skylish: *add them back
2017-06-12 22:37 Surono: okei~
2017-06-12 22:38 Skylish: 05:56:345 (168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187) - almost forgot to mention them
2017-06-12 22:38 Skylish: too monotonus (simple and repetitive)
2017-06-12 22:38 Surono: hmmm
2017-06-12 22:38 Surono: vary it?
2017-06-12 22:38 Skylish: same with those at the beginning
2017-06-12 22:38 Surono: or idk asdfsagdsagd
2017-06-12 22:39 Skylish: adding some triplets there is good
2017-06-12 22:39 Skylish: imo
2017-06-12 22:39 Skylish: to enrich the patterns
2017-06-12 22:39 Surono: ohhhh
2017-06-12 22:39 Surono: yezsh good idea :V i will find some high dem flow lel
2017-06-12 22:39 Surono: btw, im not starting to do with this map. just discus with ur words :V if u done with finding something. i will do this dem map later asdfadsf
2017-06-12 22:40 Skylish: oh okay
2017-06-12 22:40 Skylish: just some sharing here
2017-06-12 22:40 Surono: bcus imma lazy person kek
2017-06-12 22:40 Skylish: no worry
2017-06-12 22:40 Skylish: and that's all from me right now
2017-06-12 22:41 Surono: U: demmm, ur sharing is guud lul though u say "just".
2017-06-12 22:41 Skylish: yeah, JUST sharing :D
2017-06-12 22:41 Surono: ty for dem sharing, imma lazy UGHjfwahjwafwfa
2017-06-12 22:41 Surono: JUST
2017-06-12 22:41 Skylish: okay, posting it to the thread now
2017-06-12 22:41 Surono: ICE J U S T
2017-06-12 22:41 Surono: loool

> Changed some SV to make them smoother, such as lower the Ninja's speed, adding build-ups for Ninja etc.

> Talked about some density and variation issues in calm parts and Kiais

Indomie is tasty.
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[Memory]
00:23:799 - Boost the SV here at 1.35, and put a 1.00x line at 00:24:345 - . It makes the boost at 00:23:618 (58) - more suitable to 00:23:981 (59,60) - . While I was actually modding this last night but took a break, you apparenly changed 00:23:618 - to 1.75x but you can change it back to 2.00x since my suggestion is designed to fix the overlap here.

00:41:254 (150,151) - I just had the feeling that dkk could sound better to that part. while I see why you want to use kdk here, you could give it a try.

00:46:890 (13,14,15,16,17) - instead of connecting 00:47:072 (15,16,17) - with 00:46:890 (13) - , (13) could be K (and (14) deleted) so everything important is covered.

00:55:890 (62) - personally I consider kkddk more natural for the rhythm here.

01:09:618 - and 01:09:981 - mainly my feelings I have but you could change them to 0.96x and 0.91x for a smoother and more fitting slow.

01:30:709 - add 1.05x here for a smoother transistion between 01:30:527 (228,229,230) - .

01:33:436 - 01:34:163 - similar to the case of 00:23:799 - you can use 2.00x for 01:33:436 - , 1.35x for 01:33:799 - and 1.10x for 01:34:163 - . The song has some nice parts to use sort of ninja notes but consider to prevent overlaps.

01:37:072 - 01:38:163 - the stream feels 1/2 too early imo and should be moved back like this: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/GlO1Qi97.png I additionally changed 01:37:799 (31) - to d, to fit better with 01:37:981 (32) - .

01:41:436 - 01:42:345 - similar case, I'd change it to kdkdddk d d k (in case you agreed with me above).

02:22:890 - It's actually interesting that you didn't do a ninja note here - although it's possible by the music. Maybe you want to change it to one with the suggestion I gave above?

02:23:254 - 06:21:254 - pretty much everything what I've pointed out above applies for that section too. I believe you'd keep that consistent on your own anyways.

From overall, the map itself looks pretty calm (if we exclude the Kiai parts) in comparison to the song. Then again, the nature of the song and its sound fits well to that "calm mapping style". The map uses a lot of jiiro mapping - which is fine but can be misunderstood by other people. \o
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Stefan wrote:

I am hungry. :C

[Memory]
00:23:799 - Boost the SV here at 1.35, and put a 1.00x line at 00:24:345 - . It makes the boost at 00:23:618 (58) - more suitable to 00:23:981 (59,60) - . While I was actually modding this last night but took a break, you apparenly changed 00:23:618 - to 1.75x but you can change it back to 2.00x since my suggestion is designed to fix the overlap here. so if I changed it back to 2.00x ist fine? well Skylish suggest me to 1.75 bcus its too ninja but yeah player just need to prepare with 2.00x, retry for 30secs is not bad right? back~ 1.75, 1.35, 1.0 cool <3

00:41:254 (150,151) - I just had the feeling that dkk could sound better to that part. while I see why you want to use kdk here, you could give it a try. hmm yeh I'd prefer variation it then because 00:41:072 (149,150,152) - these emphasize..

00:46:890 (13,14,15,16,17) - instead of connecting 00:47:072 (15,16,17) - with 00:46:890 (13) - , (13) could be K (and (14) deleted) so everything important is covered. more emphasized to cymbal? i'd keep for follow drum here

00:55:890 (62) - personally I consider kkddk more natural for the rhythm here. overall I had kkddk for vocal or something weak sounds. thats why here is kkdkk, bcus the instrument are enough high imo

01:09:618 - and 01:09:981 - mainly my feelings I have but you could change them to 0.96x and 0.91x for a smoother and more fitting slow. just 1 value is effected? dem I nub math bcus I just tried to put something decimal

01:30:709 - add 1.05x here for a smoother transistion between 01:30:527 (228,229,230) - . ups XD

01:33:436 - 01:34:163 - similar to the case of 00:23:799 - you can use 2.00x for 01:33:436 - , 1.35x for 01:33:799 - and 1.10x for 01:34:163 - . The song has some nice parts to use sort of ninja notes but consider to prevent overlaps. too ninjas <3 <3

01:37:072 - 01:38:163 - the stream feels 1/2 too early imo and should be moved back like this: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/GlO1Qi97.png I additionally changed 01:37:799 (31) - to d, to fit better with 01:37:981 (32) - . yep, I see that kk emphasized on kdkkddk

01:41:436 - 01:42:345 - similar case, I'd change it to kdkdddk d d k (in case you agreed with me above). kkdkddk k d k

02:22:890 - It's actually interesting that you didn't do a ninja note here - although it's possible by the music. Maybe you want to change it to one with the suggestion I gave above? exception for this, just like normal as 00:35:254 - but the current you pointd out its down flow/drum with sfx

02:23:254 - 06:21:254 - pretty much everything what I've pointed out above applies for that section too. I believe you'd keep that consistent on your own anyways. oki~~

From overall, the map itself looks pretty calm (if we exclude the Kiai parts) in comparison to the song. Then again, the nature of the song and its sound fits well to that "calm mapping style". The map uses a lot of jiiro mapping - which is fine but can be misunderstood by other people. \o
old map style, this mapped when I was newbie (1 1/2 years ago maybe lul)
thanks sir XD
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just love this song and wanna mod this map if you ok with that
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hi~
random modding.

[Kioku]
  1. 01:02:981 (96) - move to 01:03:163 -
    for consistency. 00:50:890 (33,34,35,36,37,38) - and I feel like creating a good flow.

  2. 01:23:436 (195,196) - ctrl+g?
    I heard that the pitch of vocal is going down.
    There is also kick in 196 so d sounds more powerful and it sounds better.

  3. 02:38:981 (131) - move to 02:39:163 -
    Same as the first suggestion.

  4. 02:59:436 (232,233) - ctrl+g
    same as ^^

  5. 04:07:254 (28,29,30,31,32) - kdkkd?
    04:07:436 (29,32) - kick sound here.
    04:07:618 (30,31,32) - Expression that melody 's pitch will fall.

  6. 04:09:254 (1) - k?
    04:09:072 (1,1) - melody pitch follow, dk?

  7. 05:28:254 - add note, d?
    You can pick up the long tone of vocal.
that's all,
needs more chata and nayuta vocal song.
good luck~ (｡◕ˇдˇ​◕｡)/
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source is missing dot at the end, should be
東方花映塚　～ Phantasmagoria of Flower View.

00:12:345 - the immediate huge change in density seemed a bit too much here since musically the only change is addition of that weak hihat.I think you could start it a bit more undermapped (like you already did on 00:12:345 (9,10) - ) and then build up density a bit over the part

01:30:163 (228,229,230,231) - how about splitting the sv change on 01:30:709 - more over this whole pattern? current makes it stand out so much visually which seemed a bit unfitting. alternatively just removing the sv change from 01:30:709 - and only keeping the one on the cymbal might work too


01:43:799 (70,71) - this felt kinda underwhelming since it seemed like such a highlight in vocals, could probably be a triple?
01:44:890 (76,77,78,79) - think this would work well as 5 note stream because vocal stuff at the start is pretty similar, but you only overmapped second vocal. something like https://i.imgur.com/siZDxk4.jpg maybe

same for when both of these repeat in other kiais, like 03:19:799 (70,71) - 03:15:072 (38,39,40,41) -

02:16:709 - even if you didn't primarily follow synth in this part, your rhythm made them all clickable, so suddenly skipping this seemed a bit weird in gameplay
02:22:890 - could use 1.2 sv for this object, since you did similar sv things on spots like 00:46:890 - (same synth thing before a new part of the song) which made current feel a bit underwhelming and 1.2 still keeps 02:23:254 - easy to read
04:23:981 (57,62) - sv change felt a bit abrupt here since the song is rather "linear" if that makes sense lol, think it would be nice if the change was spread out over the whole pattern since that would match the overall feeling of this part better

04:55:981 (2) - shouldnt this be extended until 04:57:072 - ?
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yuzu__rinrin wrote:

hi~
random modding.

[Kioku]
  1. 01:02:981 (96) - move to 01:03:163 -
    for consistency. 00:50:890 (33,34,35,36,37,38) - and I feel like creating a good flow. its already fit

  2. 01:23:436 (195,196) - ctrl+g?
    I heard that the pitch of vocal is going down.
    There is also kick in 196 so d sounds more powerful and it sounds better. i wanted to emphasis the impact, not follow the pitch level.

  3. 02:38:981 (131) - move to 02:39:163 -
    Same as the first suggestion. keep

  4. 02:59:436 (232,233) - ctrl+g
    same as ^^ same as above

  5. 04:07:254 (28,29,30,31,32) - kdkkd?
    04:07:436 (29,32) - kick sound here.
    04:07:618 (30,31,32) - Expression that melody 's pitch will fall. intended to emphasized the vocal and kick, so keep.

  6. 04:09:254 (1) - k?
    04:09:072 (1,1) - melody pitch follow, dk? I applied monotone concept in here

  7. 05:28:254 - add note, d?
    You can pick up the long tone of vocal. 3plet is enough
that's all,
needs more chata and nayuta vocal song.
good luck~ (｡◕ˇдˇ​◕｡)/
>w< thanks yuzuuu

Lasse wrote:

source is missing dot at the end, should be
東方花映塚　～ Phantasmagoria of Flower View.
wew


00:12:345 - the immediate huge change in density seemed a bit too much here since musically the only change is addition of that weak hihat.I think you could start it a bit more undermapped (like you already did on 00:12:345 (9,10) - ) and then build up density a bit over the part I would keep to follow the rhythm in here, oriental feels for me.

01:30:163 (228,229,230,231) - how about splitting the sv change on 01:30:709 - more over this whole pattern? current makes it stand out so much visually which seemed a bit unfitting. alternatively just removing the sv change from 01:30:709 - and only keeping the one on the cymbal might work too the 01:30:618 - impact flows started around here, so yeah I would keep for now.


01:43:799 (70,71) - this felt kinda underwhelming since it seemed like such a highlight in vocals, could probably be a triple? the vocal just like flows, not build like 3ple beat
01:44:890 (76,77,78,79) - think this would work well as 5 note stream because vocal stuff at the start is pretty similar, but you only overmapped second vocal. something like https://i.imgur.com/siZDxk4.jpg maybe as said above, 3plet in here already enough to emphasis the build beat from the vocal. 5plet would over imo

same for when both of these repeat in other kiais, like 03:19:799 (70,71) - 03:15:072 (38,39,40,41) -

02:16:709 - even if you didn't primarily follow synth in this part, your rhythm made them all clickable, so suddenly skipping this seemed a bit weird in gameplay i wanted to follow second/bg synth, so yeah tho a bit weird.
02:22:890 - could use 1.2 sv for this object, since you did similar sv things on spots like 00:46:890 - (same synth thing before a new part of the song) which made current feel a bit underwhelming and 1.2 still keeps 02:23:254 - easy to read agreed
04:23:981 (57,62) - sv change felt a bit abrupt here since the song is rather "linear" if that makes sense lol, think it would be nice if the change was spread out over the whole pattern since that would match the overall feeling of this part better I got it, added slowdown svs to give the atmosphere flows here

04:55:981 (2) - shouldnt this be extended until 04:57:072 - ? but im sure the tremolo stop is 04:56:890 - here lol
thanks mank
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00:32:345 (103,104,105,106,107) - just saying that i like the 01:07:254 (119,120,121,122,123) - kdkkk more for these sounds but that's your call, i think they highlight the melody better

00:35:254 (120,121) - shouldnt these have the same sv shenanigans going on as 00:23:618 (58,59) - they do the same thing after all

00:35:981 (122) - seemed misplaced at first, but eh i get what you're doing with this i just think it shouldnt be as loud as the first one then

00:45:981 - moving this sv change to 00:45:799 - so that the barline already scrolls faster gives you a better reference point to hit 00:45:981 - more accurately

02:35:254 (113) - should be a finisher as well according to your previous logic

01:33:799 - to 01:35:254 - for the amount of buildup towards this point, this measure kind of lets you down on your hype, i think you should do something more dense for these in all 3 instances where you buildup massive SV towards a chorus because right now this is literally snoozefest

02:49:981 - this spot has different and continuous vocals, leaving a break like you did for 01:13:981 - seems unfitting here, because you force a stop over something that feels continuous

03:58:163 - would move 0.96x sv here and add 03:58:345 - 0.93x sv on this one, makes the pattern look more smooth

04:00:345 - adding a don here makes the kat seem les standalone while still mapping the background melody - i think it feels nicer to play so here's that as a suggestion
04:02:890 - along similar lines, k d d k d seems nicer here - if you do these two suggestions, apply them to 04:06:163 - and 04:08:890 - as well

04:23:072 - since you're using kats a lot in this section you could hint at that by making this a kat to begin with

04:26:163 (65,67) - these seem additive with the level of slowdown you have, i think it's better to remove them

04:27:618 (67,68,69) - i have legitimately no idea what these are supposed to map but they come out of nowhere, and most importantly they dont fit the vocal mapping that you have going on
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Okoratu wrote:

00:32:345 (103,104,105,106,107) - just saying that i like the 01:07:254 (119,120,121,122,123) - kdkkk more for these sounds but that's your call, i think they highlight the melody better already did kdkkk in the next, so keep for variation.

00:35:254 (120,121) - shouldnt these have the same sv shenanigans going on as 00:23:618 (58,59) - they do the same thing after all hmm I dont think its needed, since both of that are difference emphasis purpose

00:35:981 (122) - seemed misplaced at first, but eh i get what you're doing with this i just think it shouldnt be as loud as the first one then I just wanted to make it for drum emphasis, not the rhythm impact XD

00:45:981 - moving this sv change to 00:45:799 - so that the barline already scrolls faster gives you a better reference point to hit 00:45:981 - more accurately fixed

02:35:254 (113) - should be a finisher as well according to your previous logic so I need to 00:47:618 - add here too? hmm Id keep it since I started focus on vocal layering in here, to make difference with prevous part

01:33:799 - to 01:35:254 - for the amount of buildup towards this point, this measure kind of lets you down on your hype, i think you should do something more dense for these in all 3 instances where you buildup massive SV towards a chorus because right now this is literally snoozefest I already just did at 3rd kiai for increasing intense concept

02:49:981 - this spot has different and continuous vocals, leaving a break like you did for 01:13:981 - seems unfitting here, because you force a stop over something that feels continuous I would like to not add note in here to avoid long 1/2 since its just a calm part, just still focusing on synth and abit vocal

03:58:163 - would move 0.96x sv here and add 03:58:345 - 0.93x sv on this one, makes the pattern look more smooth agreed and applied for etc similar parts

04:00:345 - adding a don here makes the kat seem les standalone while still mapping the background melody - i think it feels nicer to play so here's that as a suggestion still main focus at synth
04:02:890 - along similar lines, k d d k d seems nicer here - if you do these two suggestions, apply them to 04:06:163 - and 04:08:890 - as well same as above

04:23:072 - since you're using kats a lot in this section you could hint at that by making this a kat to begin with rather to keep it as don to make soft emphasis in this atmosphere, 04:28:709 - and etc

04:26:163 (65,67) - these seem additive with the level of slowdown you have, i think it's better to remove them keep since I follow the bg synth, not really bad for me.

04:27:618 (67,68,69) - i have legitimately no idea what these are supposed to map but they come out of nowhere, and most importantly they dont fit the vocal mapping that you have going on yeh as I said before, synth is important for me X"D
thanks oko <<<<33333
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