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TWICE - TT

posted 2016-12-08T21:15:50+00:00

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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-09T02:38:06+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
http://puu.sh/tUFlj/d9e444f77a.txt

Did you send the wrong file? There doesn't seem to be any changes from the file I last sent you

Lilyanna wrote:
@kisses or we can just ask to Nerf it? I don't think that will be hard

You can try ask but a nerf would require a lot of remapping and I'm not sure if Nekomata would like to. Also because she mapped it before this set was made I imagine she'd like to keep it as it is.

I think it would just be easier to add another diff. With many experienced mappers out there that love to map kpop I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to find someone to make an advanced diff for this song.

Obviously this is your set so only make a decision unless you think it's right to do so

Irreversible

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4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-02-09T13:49:50+00:00

Oh lol, I thought the map was finished, I completely missed the last part wasn't mapped LOL

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2017-02-10T03:52:09+00:00

adjusted a few things that didn't feel like 3.31* or felt somewhat off in gameplay

the kiai endings are designed to be a diff spike though

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Tags:JYP Entertainment TWICEcoaster : LANE 1  나연 정연 모모 사나 지효 미나 다현 채영 쯔위 Nayeon Jeongyeon Momo Sana Jihyo Mina Dahyun Chaeyoung Tzuyu K-Pop Kpop Nekomata Firetruck
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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-13T16:37:28+00:00

So here is the diff, i hitsounded my parts and everything but I didn't touch irre's as I didn't know what hitsound pattern he wanted to use

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As for the spread it may be fine after all, idk how I feel about it anymore. I was reading in depth about some other people talking about player's perspective on map spreads (this map wasn't included in the discussion) and it made me think less strict on certain spread balances.

Honestly if you can get someone to push it then it's fine. But yh, your call

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-13T17:13:10+00:00

Thank you irre and kisses i really loved the gd

good work updated the set still now waiting for wasin advanced gd and u guys finish hitsound.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-02-15T02:00:27+00:00

Change the bg to jpg so that it's smaller (edit: that does nothing lol)

Could add an opening spinner like Kisses' diff, fits well
01:15:480 (5) - Unsnapped green line here on some diffs
Should 'Wasin' be in the tags?

Easy
Double check the blankets and spacing on these so that all notes are equal distance from each other 00:20:816 (1,2,3) - 00:24:508 (1,2,3,4) - 00:39:278 (1,2) - 00:39:278 (1,2) - 01:01:431 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:739 (3,4) - 01:23:585 (1,3) - 01:25:431 (4,6) - 01:38:355 (1,3) - 01:42:047 (1,3) - 01:47:585 (3,1) - 02:06:970 (3,1) - 02:09:739 (3,4) - 03:12:508 (1,2) -
00:23:585 (5,1) - Better to have visually consistent spacing so they don't touch, make it more like 00:28:201 (1,2) -
01:18:970 (6) - ctrl-h?
01:29:124 (3) - Unused timing point, just make sure it was meant to be used for something or delete
01:45:739 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This entire section directly overlaps on itself lol, mix it up

Normal
Use CS 3.5, it fits the spread much better cause all the harder diffs are CS 4
00:25:431 (3) - Why is the white tick skipper here, doesn't happen elsewhere
01:07:893 (3,1,2,3) - This is just odd to look at, maybe use sliders cause you haven't done 1/1 circles like this
02:35:124 (4,1) - Visually inconsistent with next pattern

modding low diffs ResidentSleeper

may or may not do middle ones later

Insane
00:57:624 (7) - Looks ugly with nc, might be better if it was under the last slider
00:58:200 (5,5) - ee could really use a better overlap or something to make it look better. same 02:11:124 (6) -
01:28:662 (6,1) - Could improve flow here, make 6,1,2,3 more linear
01:34:431 (8) - Could be more interesting if it was below the end of the stream, x200 y175 ish
01:35:585 (3,7) - For stream to sliders like this, you should always make the slider one note longer than the actual stream, then just put the slider head on the final note. Looks odd that these slider heads don't line up with streams.
02:25:893 (6,1) - normally stay away from blankets on harder stuff but pls fix this
02:43:085 (2) - Move 2,3 around a bit, you can make this spiral better curving
03:13:431 (4) - slider flows odd, rotate a bit
03:29:354 (3) - Same spiral, but easier to fix by just moving 3 left a bit

Kisses
00:17:124 (1) - Move up cause it's kind of stressful to reach next sliders
00:24:508 (1) - this one's less stressful cause there's no technical stuff, probably fine
00:35:585 (1) - blanket?
00:57:047 (4) - ctrl-g?
01:00:912 (1) - why is this 1/8, drum is more important, bit unexpected, expecting a 1/2 slider but doesn't work.
01:16:201 (1) - 100% vertical line looks ugly, make it 5 degree like sliders prior
01:18:047 (1) - Same but 5 degree other direction
01:36:278 (6) - Might not be readable cause you used overlaps differently at 00:20:816 (1,2,3) - & 00:25:431 (1,2,1,2) - . Ctrl-g maybe
02:25:085 (3) - Unsnapped green line
02:59:470 (1) - Missing a spinner around here
03:08:816 (5) - NC somewhere

Last edited by Xinnoh 2017-05-03T04:21:03+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

PandaHero 2017-02-15T11:20:05+00:00

Hello. NM from my queue (actually turn into m4m ~_~).

General

Unused hitsounds (according to modding assistant):
normal-hitfinish88.wav
soft-hitclap1.wav
soft-hitnormal1.wav
soft-hitwhistle1.wav
soft-sliderslide1.wav

Easy

I think if you increase your DS in this diff, you can avoid all overlaps that you have.

00:20:816 (1) overlap with 00:22:201 (3), move note a little bit left.
01:23:585 (1,2,3) - same situation here.
01:25:431 (4,5,6) - ^
01:40:201 (4,5,6) - ^
01:42:047 (1,2,3) - ^

And how about making breaks here 00:46:662 and here 02:00:508, like in normal diff?

Firetruck's Normal

Hm, maybe cs 4 is too big for normal? I recommend ~3.5 to emphasize the difference between mormal and hard.
Make distance between 01:22:201 (2,3) and 01:21:278 (4,1) equal.
It's unintuitive to newbies to play this 02:17:124 (1,2) after they saw this 02:15:970 (2,3).
03:02:124 (2,3,1,2) - same

wasin's Advanced

Oh, it's still WIP. So call me back when you finish it

Nekomata's Hard

I found only few reading problems in this diff.

01:43:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hard to reading for low-skill players imo.
03:15:624 (2,3,1) - ^

Insane

HS:
01:12:970 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds like clap spam

01:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like it's shape at all, sorry. I believe you can make it better.
01:58:201 (3) - this sound should be clickable imo.
02:28:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - I want to move cursor down, after this pattern 02:26:355 (1,2,3,4)
02:42:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - oh boy, you can make this stream beautiful by making blanket around these notes 02:42:970 (1,2) or making ideal semicircle here 02:43:431 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5). Smth like this will be nice

Irrkiss' Insane

General:
You have unsnapped green line here - 02:25:070.
And offscreen object - 00:56:355 (2)

HS:
00:39:278 - 00:45:739 - about hitsounds in this part. You can add clap to emphasize this sounds: 00:39:739, 00:40:662, 00:41:585 etc.
00:46:662 - 01:30:508 - hm, looks like you forgot to hitsound this part o.o
03:00:739 - 03:15:970 - and this

00:42:047 (3,1) - hm, maybe spacing here is too big for 1/4 objects? o.o
00:46:085 -make this beat clickable? It's strong enough imo.
01:12:047 (5,1) - I think that making spacing here the same as here 01:10:662 (3,1) will be better for reading.
01:15:393 (8) - you ignore beats here 01:15:508 and here 01:15:624, I think you should remake this place. I understand that perhaps it's your concept, but I notice this thing anyway.
Little overlap between 01:45:739 (1,2) and 01:46:662 (1), it's visible in-game.
01:49:778 (2,3) - too big spacing here, especially in compare with 01:49:431 (1,2).

Good luck

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-15T17:02:34+00:00

PandaHero wrote:
Irrkiss' Insane
General:
You have unsnapped green line here - 02:25:070.
And offscreen object - 00:56:355 (2)

HS:
00:39:278 - 00:45:739 - about hitsounds in this part. You can add clap to emphasize this sounds: 00:39:739, 00:40:662, 00:41:585 etc.
00:46:662 - 01:30:508 - hm, looks like you forgot to hitsound this part o.o
03:00:739 - 03:15:970 - and this
Hitsound pattern reworked
Little overlap between 01:45:739 (1,2) and 01:46:662 (1), it's visible in-game. I like overlaps
01:49:778 (2,3) - too big spacing here, especially in compare with 01:49:431 (1,2) It's not about the spacing it's about the flow of the pattern. It also works as emphasis, I did the same thing in the next pattern 01:50:355 (1,2,3)

Good luck

Sinnoh wrote:
01:36:278 (6) - Might not be readable cause you used overlaps differently at 00:20:816 (1,2,3) - & 00:25:431 (1,2,1,2) - . Ctrl-g maybe I used the same spacing as 00:22:201 (5,6) which is the exact same pattern. I also don't see it be misread as anything other than 1/8 spacing considering the small spacing
02:25:085 (3) - Unsnapped green line

No reply = Fixed

Thnx for the mods!

Update

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Hitsounded the rest of the diff upon Irreversible's request

Adventure

411 posts

Joined February 2015

Adventure 2017-02-16T05:42:56+00:00

TWICE will release the Knock Knock.
do not know when the release

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-02-16T19:41:30+00:00

hi, from my queue

Irrkiss' Insane

00:20:816 (1,2) - This should have same spacing as 00:18:970 (1,2) - since there's no emphasis.
00:25:431 (1,2) - Don't overlap, it's ugly.
00:26:355 (1,2) - Same
00:37:431 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Why all NC?
00:42:508 (1) - Even though it should be emphasized, not this much. Too big spacing.
00:43:431 (1,2) - Again, bigger spacing than 00:42:970 (1,2) - but no change in intensity of the song.
00:47:816 (3) - Why big spacing?
00:51:739 (3,1) - Ugly overlap
00:53:124 (1,1,1,1) - I agree with the bigger spacing, but why this big, again? Now it just seems like diff spike.
01:02:816 (1,2) - Triggering.
01:08:585 (2) - Ugly slider shape
01:19:431 (5,6,1) - Big spacing, make it smaller.
01:37:778 (2) - Remove

Insane is okay.

Nekomata's Hard

00:23:355 (6) - Don't stack circles before or after streams, it's uncomfortable.
00:30:970 (6,7,8,9) - This is different DS from 00:30:047 (1,2,3,4,5) -? Change.
00:43:662 (4) - This is different DS from all the circles before it. Change.
00:55:431 (5) - ^
01:03:278 (1) - ^
01:22:662 (4) - ^
Basically, only problem in the map after this is the DS, you gotta keep the same DS or it will be hard for players, take this as advice for further mapping in Hard diffs

That's it for my mod.

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-17T13:59:32+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
01:37:778 (2) - Remove Yes it's overmapped but imo it plays really well, is fun, and adds a nice feel when playing. I also don't think it's inappropriate for this diff

No change for my parts but thnx for looking!

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-02-17T16:12:09+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
IrrKisses
00:17:124 (1) - Move up cause it's kind of stressful to reach next sliders Hmm but it is the same as down below..
00:24:508 (1) - this one's less stressful cause there's no technical stuff, probably fine
00:35:585 (1) - blanket? No, it's a triangle.
00:57:047 (4) - ctrl-g? No
01:00:912 (1) - why is this 1/8, drum is more important, bit unexpected, expecting a 1/2 slider but doesn't work. yes
01:16:201 (1) - 100% vertical line looks ugly, make it 5 degree like sliders prior
01:18:047 (1) - Same but 5 degree other direction ye
01:36:278 (6) - Might not be readable cause you used overlaps differently at 00:20:816 (1,2,3) - & 00:25:431 (1,2,1,2) - . Ctrl-g maybe
02:25:085 (3) - Unsnapped green line
02:59:470 (1) - Missing a spinner around here
03:08:816 (5) - NC somewhere yes

Panda: Fixed the first suggestion, about the rest, I just feel like my rhythm fits better .. sorry. HS will be fixed by Kisses, I hope!

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
hi, from my queue

Irrkiss' Insane
00:20:816 (1,2) - This should have same spacing as 00:18:970 (1,2) - since there's no emphasis. There is emphasis.
00:25:431 (1,2) - Don't overlap, it's ugly. No
00:26:355 (1,2) - Same No
00:37:431 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Why all NC? I felt like emphasizing this fun sound is cool :3
00:42:508 (1) - Even though it should be emphasized, not this much. Too big spacing. Fixed in other mod.
00:43:431 (1,2) - Again, bigger spacing than 00:42:970 (1,2) - but no change in intensity of the song. Vocals?
00:47:816 (3) - Why big spacing? yea
00:51:739 (3,1) - Ugly overlap No
00:53:124 (1,1,1,1) - I agree with the bigger spacing, but why this big, again? Now it just seems like diff spike. It's not, it's just increasing lol
01:02:816 (1,2) - Triggering. Your mod triggered me too lol
01:08:585 (2) - Ugly slider shape No
01:19:431 (5,6,1) - Big spacing, make it smaller. No
01:37:778 (2) - Remove No

Try using the modding scheme "What's wrong" "Why is it wrong" "How to improve it" next time please. It will help me understanding why I should fix something, instead of just you saying that it's ugly. :3

Thanks everyone for the mod!

http://puu.sh/u7r0V/0fcf096550.txt

@Kisses: could you fix the hitsounds? :3 thx

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-17T16:41:03+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
@Kisses: could you fix the hitsounds? :3 thx

sure np, added a few extra in some places too.

Use the update below lily!

Update

osu file format v14

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Version:Irrkiss' Insane
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Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-17T18:48:56+00:00

PandaHero wrote:
Hello. NM from my queue (actually turn into m4m ~_~).

General

Unused hitsounds (according to modding assistant):
normal-hitfinish88.wav
soft-hitclap1.wav
soft-hitnormal1.wav
soft-hitwhistle1.wav
soft-sliderslide1.wav

Easy
I think if you increase your DS in this diff, you can avoid all overlaps that you have. yes true but instead i lowerd cs so now there is no overlap

00:20:816 (1) overlap with 00:22:201 (3), move note a little bit left.
01:23:585 (1,2,3) - same situation here.
01:25:431 (4,5,6) - ^
01:40:201 (4,5,6) - ^
01:42:047 (1,2,3) - ^
since i lowered cs the overlap not so noticable but still fixed things
And how about making breaks here 00:46:662 and here 02:00:508, like in normal diff? i think its fine if someone else mention that ill change

Insane
HS:
01:12:970 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds like clap spam i didnt do the hitsound for this but sounds fine clap where it should be

01:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like it's shape at all, sorry. I believe you can make it better. fixed i hope
01:58:201 (3) - this sound should be clickable imo. it is clickable u highlighted it
02:28:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - I want to move cursor down, after this pattern 02:26:355 (1,2,3,4) i dont get ur point
02:42:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - oh boy, you can make this stream beautiful by making blanket around these notes 02:42:970 (1,2) or making ideal semicircle here 02:43:431 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5). Smth like this will be nice yeap fixed

Good luck

thank uu

Sinnoh wrote:
Change the bg to jpg so that it's smaller oh fixed

Could add an opening spinner like Kisses' diff, fits well
01:15:480 (5) - Unsnapped green line here on some diffs ye for lower diff didnt needed but for higher is for hitsound
Should 'Wasin' be in the tags? fixed

Easy
Double check the blankets and spacing on these so that all notes are equal distance from each other 00:20:816 (1,2,3) - 00:24:508 (1,2,3,4) - 00:39:278 (1,2) - 00:39:278 (1,2) - 01:01:431 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:739 (3,4) - 01:23:585 (1,3) - 01:25:431 (4,6) - 01:38:355 (1,3) - 01:42:047 (1,3) - 01:47:585 (3,1) - 02:06:970 (3,1) - 02:09:739 (3,4) - 03:12:508 (1,2) -
00:23:585 (5,1) - Better to have visually consistent spacing so they don't touch, make it more like 00:28:201 (1,2) - fixed all remaped some placements
01:18:970 (6) - ctrl-h? i like it that way
01:29:124 (3) - Unused timing point, just make sure it was meant to be used for something or delete fixed
01:45:739 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This entire section directly overlaps on itself lol, mix it up visually it doest overlap and it has different shapes ad stuff it should be fine

Insane
00:57:624 (7) - Looks ugly with nc, might be better if it was under the last slider fixed
00:58:200 (5,5) - ee could really use a better overlap or something to make it look better. same 02:11:124 (6) - i tried i couldnt
01:28:662 (6,1) - Could improve flow here, make 6,1,2,3 more linear fixed
01:34:431 (8) - Could be more interesting if it was below the end of the stream, x200 y175 ish yep fixed
01:35:585 (3,7) - For stream to sliders like this, you should always make the slider one note longer than the actual stream, then just put the slider head on the final note. Looks odd that these slider heads don't line up with streams. i think its fine dont want make it more complicated
02:25:893 (6,1) - normally stay away from blankets on harder stuff but pls fix this fixed TT
02:43:085 (2) - Move 2,3 around a bit, you can make this spiral better curving fixed
03:13:431 (4) - slider flows odd, rotate a bit its fine its symmetrycal to the other one
03:29:354 (3) - Same spiral, but easier to fix by just moving 3 left a bit yep

thank u for mod

added hitsound on wasin's advanced

Updated everything.

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2017-02-17T20:01:46+00:00

no changes from me, things are too subjective. Its designed to provide a challenge for players of my targetted level, and catering to your individual difficulty preference doesnt make it *my* map.

git gud tbh

Xiaolin

1,857 posts

Joined April 2013

Xiaolin 2017-02-18T10:57:23+00:00

From Firetruck's request.

Kalibe wrote:
[fire*ruck]

- 00:21:739 (2,3) - Why here 1.2x spacing, when 00:19:893 (2,3) - and 00:18:047 (2,3) - are 1.1x? ): Its 1.1x already..?
- 00:54:047 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Spamming claps every 1/2 is not a good option imo. Music gets intensive feel here 00:57:739 (1) - // I'd just remove claps from 00:54:739 (2,2) - and 00:54:970 (3) - repeater though. Sure thing, fixed.
- 01:21:278 (4,2) - Missing claps on heads // 01:20:355 (2) - should be clap instead of whistle. Fixed.
- 01:23:124 (4) - Missing clap. ^
- 01:33:739 (2,3) - Again :C but this time 01:33:739 (2,3) - 1.0x spacing and 01:31:893 (2,3) - 01:35:585 (2,3) - are 1.1x Fixed.
- second and third kiai are just literally copied first...
- 02:34:201 (2,4,2,4) - same as before Fixed.
- 03:20:355 (2,4,2,4) - ^ ^

Sinnoh wrote:
Normal
Use CS 3.5, it fits the spread much better cause all the harder diffs are CS 4 Made it 3.6 instead.
00:25:431 (3) - Why is the white tick skipper here, doesn't happen elsewhere Made the slider end at the white tick and added a circle.
01:07:893 (3,1,2,3) - This is just odd to look at, maybe use sliders cause you haven't done 1/1 circles like this No, I'd like to keep it as it is.
02:35:124 (4,1) - Visually inconsistent with next pattern Fixed.

PandaHero wrote:
Firetruck's Normal
Hm, maybe cs 4 is too big for normal? I recommend ~3.5 to emphasize the difference between mormal and hard.
Make distance between 01:22:201 (2,3) and 01:21:278 (4,1) equal. Fixed.
It's unintuitive to newbies to play this 02:17:124 (1,2) after they saw this 02:15:970 (2,3). I think its okay.. might consider though.
03:02:124 (2,3,1,2) - same ^

Thanks for modding.

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MrMenda

301 posts

Joined December 2015

MrMenda 2017-02-19T16:14:16+00:00

Hello there, MrMenda from OSUWOT Queue here, ready to serve! o/

Nekomata’s Hard

-00:27:739 (5) - Turn it into a 1/2 slider
-00:37:431 (1) - 1/1 slider maybe? Feels unfinished as a 3/4
-01:38:355 (1,2) - Change orientation of the curvature
-01:42:047 (1,2) - ^

Really good map, by how it is composed I feel like it is gonna be fun to play in DT. Maybe try changing AR to 7.2 or 7.5

Insane

By the SR it has I’d use AR8 rather than AR8.2, but personal preference.

-00:31:431 (9,10,1) - move 10 away and form a triangle with those 3 items
-00:38:124 (2) - 1/1 slider feels better than 5/4
-00:48:508 (1) - Curve it a bit
-00:54:508 (2,3,4,5) - why is jump between 3 and 4 so big?
-01:17:585 (5,1) - Blanket
-01:28:662 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - Too much spacing between 6 and the stream
-01:58:662 (1,1,1,1) - I really like this pattern
-02:27:278 (4,5,6) - Change the order in time between 5 and 6.
-03:21:739 (1,2) - Blanket
-03:24:970 (5,1) - ^
-03:26:816 (5,1) - ^

Good Diff. Again, I feel like this set is going to the DT direction,

Irrkiss’ Insane

Another personal comment on AR: AR8.9 is pretty weird, maybe AR 8.7 or 9 would fit the map better.

-00:37:431 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - - I would not use new combo in every single new object here.
-02:01:201 (1) - Consider curving it
-02:15:278 (1,2) - Blanket
-02:34:662 (1,2) - ^
-02:36:508 (1,1) - ^
-03:13:431 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - WOW! I really like this
-03:15:278 (7) - NC

Really good Diff, I couldn’t find many mistakes.

This is everything I could find. Map looks really good, I think this can get ranked with a few more mods. Good Luck

P.D: Star for you

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-19T18:59:17+00:00

MrMenda wrote:
Hello there, MrMenda from OSUWOT Queue here, ready to serve! o/

Insane
By the SR it has I’d use AR8 rather than AR8.2, but personal preference. i prefer keep it like that the difficulty play little more like an insane because of streams and jumps

-00:31:431 (9,10,1) - move 10 away and form a triangle with those 3 items i like the stacked its consistent and express the drum more better
-00:38:124 (2) - 1/1 slider feels better than 5/4 tbh the extended is better it flows with the vocal so the player hold on to that note
-00:48:508 (1) - Curve it a bit i curved on the second part of same section its ok this way
-00:54:508 (2,3,4,5) - why is jump between 3 and 4 so big? its with the intensity of the vocals
-01:17:585 (5,1) - Blanket doesnt have to be
-01:28:662 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - Too much spacing between 6 and the stream ye fixed
-01:58:662 (1,1,1,1) - I really like this pattern :3
-02:27:278 (4,5,6) - Change the order in time between 5 and 6. i think i get what u mean fixed
-03:21:739 (1,2) - Blanket
-03:24:970 (5,1) - ^
-03:26:816 (5,1) - ^ they were not supposed to be blanket ;w;

Good Diff. Again, I feel like this set is going to the DT direction,

This is everything I could find. Map looks really good, I think this can get ranked with a few more mods. Good Luck thx alot o w o

P.D: Star for you

thank uu for mod!

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-19T19:05:51+00:00

MrMenda wrote:
Irrkiss’ Insane
Another personal comment on AR: AR8.9 is pretty weird, maybe AR 8.7 or 9 would fit the map better.
-02:01:201 (1) - Consider curving it
-02:15:278 (1,2) - Blanket
-02:34:662 (1,2) - ^
-02:36:508 (1,1) - ^

All these changes go against the mapping style I went for and would break the structure. No changes on my part but thnx for looking through and shooting a star!

@Irreversible you can decide on what AR you want the diff to be

Monarch

213 posts

Joined July 2014

Monarch 2017-02-20T02:18:42+00:00

[insane] 00:22:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing here should probably be increased

00:30:970 (7,8,9,10) - weird to have such intensity and yet so little spacing compared to the other parts like this 00:32:816 (3,4,5,6) - is way less intense, at the very least move 00:30:970 (7,8) - further from the 6 like 00:45:739 (3,4) - is

00:38:124 (2) - i think this would benefit from a slower slider

00:38:816 (3,4,1) - spacing inconsistent with sound

00:42:970 (1) - i understand that the lyrics become more intense on this note but i dont think it justifies such a massive jump imo

00:50:354 (1) - ds from 00:49:893 (5) - should be larger, just looks uneven

00:55:431 (6,7,1) - i think these should be connected, i see no reason to have a jump

01:01:316 (3) - tbh i dont understand any of these 1/4 jumps, like before 00:39:739 (2) - through this section it was very justified because there was this hard sound, I gues you could argue that the section itself is more intense so the jump is fine but idk its just a bit ott

01:03:739 (1) - this looks way too similar to 01:02:816 (6) - and is just asking for someone to slider break

01:12:970 (2,3,4) - some weird flow here and 01:21:739 (1,2,3,4) - here, like the slider is curling away in the second one which just makes it awakard to play

01:37:431 (1) - this jump should be bigger

01:44:355 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - just sounds weird to play with the harder sounds having the same ds as the soft sounds, maybe use kicksliders for the softer sounds

01:59:124 (1) - slider doesnt make sense here as there a voice sound on the red tick, maybe split into 2 kiclsiders

02:04:201 (1) - weird flow, doesnt match the other sections, the slider really should be somehwre around x415 y299

02:11:470 (7) - dont understand this jump

02:18:508 (3) - why is this jump soooo big

02:24:970 (2) - why is this jump soooooo small

02:29:124 (6,7) - ^

03:15:278 (6,7) - ^

03:19:431 (5) - ^^^^ so many like this why arent ur hard note jumps

02:42:047 (5) - should really be ctrl+j and close to x216y216

03:13:431 (4) - really weird flow here from 03:13:201 (3) - and into 03:13:431 (4,5,6) - its even more weird with the sudden straight jumps

Arusamour

424 posts

Joined April 2014

Arusamour 2017-02-20T07:51:18+00:00

Insane (3,77 stars, 598 notes)

00:22:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd like to see a distinct pattern here to give the kicks more personality. example of what i would do
00:38:816 (3,4) - ctrl+g more so suits the flow, try it. also, (4) could be repositioned a little lower if so.
00:55:431 (6) - should not be stacked with 00:55:201 (5). (5) is rhythmically a 1/8, 2-point reverse slider and having (6) stacked behind it may misdirect the player to click (6) too early. So basically what im saying is: (5) should be treated like a circle and (6) be placed reasonably away from it.
00:55:778 (7,1) - you can really space this pattern out more.
i find a problem with almost every stream that belogns to this map. (01:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - this being an exception)

00:57:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - i believe the stream beat has a much stronger start on 00:57:739, so i would delete the note on 00:57:624 (7).

@ around 00:58:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10, you turn the stream around. i have no idea what for but my best guess is to express the 1/8 percussion sound thingy in the music.
1. you could normally map the stream and from 00:58:431 match the vocals like such: example 1
2. you could start 1/4 sliders and end with a stream: example 2
01:33:739 (3,4,5,6,7) - i think you could just ctrl+g 01:31:893 (3,4,5,6,7)? the pattern is more uniformed that way.
01:47:124 (3,4,5,6,1) - here also i think you could do the zig-zag effect to enhance the vocalist.
01:51:970 (6) - stack to 01:53:008 (9) -
01:53:470 (2,3,4,5) - (2,3) you don't have to stack these doubles. i would highly prefer if you placed (3) on x:247 y:78
(4) on x:297 y:195
overall should look like this after changes: example
02:35:124 (4,5,1,2,3) - i like the concept but i dont like the placements. this pattern could be expressed a lot more clearly, and better if given a larger room. try to uniform them.
my take on your concept
03:27:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1. have (1,2,3,4) symmetrical. 2. (6) ctrl+h, ctrl+h. 3. boom
03:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - i find this stream to be boring to end on. it doesn't necessarily have to be special but something like 03:30:047 (1,2,3,4,5) not being expressed strongly bugs me. i guess you could decrease the speed on (1,2,3,4,5)
my take on your concept

Irrkiss' Insane (4,11 stars, 606 notes)

ffs

00:51:739 (3,1) - i think this is quite a lame choice. i look back at 00:48:047 (1,1) and i can see more passion in those sliders. i would prefere if you copied that pattern here but flipped.
01:08:585 (2) - looks out of place but not only that, it is out of place. red anchor of the slider is pointless
01:15:278 (1) - new combo here?
01:16:201 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - great great great
01:24:508 (4,5) - make this unique to ^. i already get the point in giving the chorus significance but 01:24:970 (5), this bit here in unnecessary. circle instead of slider
01:40:547 (2) - reverse arrow being blocked which i think is fine in certain scenarios but for a slider this short i don't like.
01:46:662 (1) - this example i think better compliments the contrast between 01:46:431 (3,1).
02:24:508 (1) - lengthen to 3/4 slider (maybe wrong term)
im going to be that guy to point this out even though i am aware of "irrkiss'" as a collab difficulty.
02:30:047 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - tthis part of the chorus should most definitely be more iconic than the rest of your part. you could directly copy his pattern or use the same concept instead of something dead.
03:00:739 (1,1,2) - what does this mean? i dont see a reason to place where 03:00:970 (1) is. maybe this or this is better represented?
03:29:585 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - i don't believe the map was built around patterns like this.

LwL

363 posts

Joined November 2013

LwL 2017-02-26T20:06:19+00:00

hi from my q

Irrkiss' Insane

00:54:970 (3,4,5) - There's not really much of a distinct sound on (4) as far as I can tell, only the 1/8 that's consistent between sliderend and sliderhead. Not really much to do while keeping the rhythm somewhat normal (provided you don't want to skip the note), but I think moving (4) under the end of (3) would make for better emphasis since the jump would be to the vocals on the start of (5)

01:12:047 (5,1) - [Nitpicky subjective aesthetics]This is the kind of thing that'd trigger me every time I play the map, I think moving (1) a bit to the right would look much nicer[/Nitpicky subjective aesthetics]

Insane

01:06:854 (7,1) - I get not wanting to skip the beat, but since this slider seems to be trying to emphasize the held vocals which actually start on (7), it feels a bit weird. There's a sound on 01:07:085, I think you could utilize that for a rhythm like this, still emphasizing the held vocal and not skipping the beat, but starting the hold in the right place.

01:12:508 (1) - nazi blanket (sorry) move last slider anchor to (76|108) if you care about it, I believe that fixes it.

01:13:431 (4) - Not as nazi since it's pretty easy to see, but still blanket, (188|210) for last slider anchor fixes it I think, still not quite perfect but that's nazi territory like the above one, with the difference that I can't find a quick and simple fix so who cares.

It's completely obvious from the nature of the mod, but I think this is really good already, certainly too good for someone with my level of experience to find anything of real significance. Good Luck!

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-03-06T17:50:27+00:00

Monarch wrote:
nm
[insane] 00:22:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing here should probably be increased would like to keep it consistent

00:30:970 (7,8,9,10) - weird to have such intensity and yet so little spacing compared to the other parts like this 00:32:816 (3,4,5,6) - is way less intense, at the very least move 00:30:970 (7,8) - further from the 6 like 00:45:739 (3,4) - is fixed

00:38:124 (2) - i think this would benefit from a slower slider it is slow

00:38:816 (3,4,1) - spacing inconsistent with sound i think its fine xd

00:42:970 (1) - i understand that the lyrics become more intense on this note but i dont think it justifies such a massive jump imo its looks massive but its not they all spaced 2.0ds its just that one is 1/1 not 1/2 snap

00:50:354 (1) - ds from 00:49:893 (5) - should be larger, just looks uneven fixed

00:55:431 (6,7,1) - i think these should be connected, i see no reason to have a jump there is sound in between

01:01:316 (3) - tbh i dont understand any of these 1/4 jumps, like before 00:39:739 (2) - through this section it was very justified because there was this hard sound, I gues you could argue that the section itself is more intense so the jump is fine but idk its just a bit ott the kiai is more intens and i followed vocals

01:03:739 (1) - this looks way too similar to 01:02:816 (6) - and is just asking for someone to slider breakits nc and im sure someone with level insane difficulty have musicality

01:12:970 (2,3,4) - some weird flow here and 01:21:739 (1,2,3,4) - here, like the slider is curling away in the second one which just makes it awakard to play its fine for me

01:37:431 (1) - this jump should be bigger fixed

01:44:355 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - just sounds weird to play with the harder sounds having the same ds as the soft sounds, maybe use kicksliders for the softer sounds yep fixed

01:59:124 (1) - slider doesnt make sense here as there a voice sound on the red tick, maybe split into 2 kiclsiders if someone else say ill change

02:04:201 (1) - weird flow, doesnt match the other sections, the slider really should be somehwre around x415 y299 fixed little

02:11:470 (7) - dont understand this jump

02:18:508 (3) - why is this jump soooo big

02:24:970 (2) - why is this jump soooooo small

02:29:124 (6,7) - ^

03:15:278 (6,7) - ^

03:19:431 (5) - ^^^^ so many like this why arent ur hard note jumps

02:42:047 (5) - should really be ctrl+j and close to x216y216

03:13:431 (4) - really weird flow here from 03:13:201 (3) - and into 03:13:431 (4,5,6) - its even more weird with the sudden straight jumps its iintended to be on opposite flow
x

Arusamour wrote:
Insane (3,77 stars, 598 notes)

00:22:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd like to see a distinct pattern here to give the kicks more personality. example of what i would do fixed
00:38:816 (3,4) - ctrl+g more so suits the flow, try it. also, (4) could be repositioned a little lower if so. i dont want make 1/4 snap so spaced it be cconfused with the 1/2
00:55:431 (6) - should not be stacked with 00:55:201 (5). (5) is rhythmically a 1/8, 2-point reverse slider and having (6) stacked behind it may misdirect the player to click (6) too early. So basically what im saying is: (5) should be treated like a circle and (6) be placed reasonably away from it. fixed
00:55:778 (7,1) - you can really space this pattern out more. again because of 1/4 confusion
i find a problem with almost every stream that belogns to this map. (01:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - this being an exception) im bad with streams!!

00:57:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - i believe the stream beat has a much stronger start on 00:57:739, so i would delete the note on 00:57:624 (7). fixed

@ around 00:58:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10, you turn the stream around. i have no idea what for but my best guess is to express the 1/8 percussion sound thingy in the music.
1. you could normally map the stream and from 00:58:431 match the vocals like such: example 1
2. you could start 1/4 sliders and end with a stream: example 2

used first example for second kiai and second example for first kiai lol

01:33:739 (3,4,5,6,7) - i think you could just ctrl+g 01:31:893 (3,4,5,6,7)? the pattern is more uniformed that way. but i like this flow more
01:47:124 (3,4,5,6,1) - here also i think you could do the zig-zag effect to enhance the vocalist. only do it on this similat sounds 01:51:278 -
01:51:970 (6) - stack to 01:53:008 (9) - fixed
01:53:470 (2,3,4,5) - (2,3) you don't have to stack these doubles. i would highly prefer if you placed (3) on x:247 y:78
(4) on x:297 y:195 but it be wierd compared to how that part is mapped so i keep
overall should look like this after changes: example
02:35:124 (4,5,1,2,3) - i like the concept but i dont like the placements. this pattern could be expressed a lot more clearly, and better if given a larger room. try to uniform them. i like them xd
my take on your concept
03:27:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1. have (1,2,3,4) symmetrical. 2. (6) ctrl+h, ctrl+h. 3. boom fixed
03:29:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - i find this stream to be boring to end on. it doesn't necessarily have to be special but something like 03:30:047 (1,2,3,4,5) not being expressed strongly bugs me. i guess you could decrease the speed on (1,2,3,4,5) fixed i think its ugly how i did it xd but i tried

LawL4Ever wrote:
hi from my q hi

Insane
01:06:854 (7,1) - I get not wanting to skip the beat, but since this slider seems to be trying to emphasize the held vocals which actually start on (7), it feels a bit weird. There's a sound on 01:07:085, I think you could utilize that for a rhythm like this, still emphasizing the held vocal and not skipping the beat, but starting the hold in the right place. actually if u listen good the vocals on snapped on the red ticks xd if im not wrong

01:12:508 (1) - nazi blanket (sorry) move last slider anchor to (76|108) if you care about it, I believe that fixes it. fixed

01:13:431 (4) - Not as nazi since it's pretty easy to see, but still blanket, (188|210) for last slider anchor fixes it I think, still not quite perfect but that's nazi territory like the above one, with the difference that I can't find a quick and simple fix so who cares. fixed

It's completely obvious from the nature of the mod, but I think this is really good already, certainly too good for someone with my level of experience to find anything of real significance. Good Luck!

thank u for mods

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-03-10T14:10:11+00:00

fixed some stuff

update

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KnightC0re

212 posts

Joined February 2016

KnightC0re 2017-03-10T21:45:06+00:00

Ok... k-pop mod... uh... I'll try my best.

Easy
00:35:124(4,1,2,3,4) - I just wanted to blanket the 4 and then I ended up moving all these... here's the result

Image

01:17:124(3) - I think this may look better

Image

01:18:970(6) - This as well (It's just because of entering of object and whatnot)

Image

Literally everything is fine by me for 2 minutes...
03:18:970(6) - Might look better if flipped
I got not much to think of to improve this much really.

Firetruck's Normal
00:36:508(3) - It's just me but this might look better if it faces downwards
01:58:662(1) - Again, just me but this might look better

Image

03:00:970 - An object here?
At this point I'm just looking for patterns I want to improve... and it's really hard

wasin's Advanced
00:59:124(5) - Might look better like this

Image

02:24:247(3) - Move this down a bit (slider exiting flow and such)
03:01:431 - Object here?
I'm beginning to realize this map is out of my league.

I can't find anything to improve on Nekomata's diff...

Insane
00:33:739(1) - Finish the star? (That will be a lot of moving but I got this)

Image

02:42:047(5) - Finish the star. (It even looks nice when it lines up with 6)

Image

I just have problem with unfinished star(Do i have a problem?)

Uh... (Irrkiss diff is too perfect)

Yeah I don't know what I can do anymore.

wasin

wasin 2017-03-11T09:54:51+00:00

wasin's Advanced
00:59:124(5) - Might look better like this i like your suggest and tried this, but it looks a bit ugly, so still the same.

Image

02:24:247(3) - Move this down a bit (slider exiting flow and such) nothing to fix DS is fine
03:01:431 - Object here? break the rule of advanced's TT
I'm beginning to realize this map is out of my league.

Thank you ><

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2017-03-11T12:59:24+00:00

Umm... Maybe use finger snap at the beginning of the song. I think it fits with the song.
Also, please change the vid to this lol

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-03-11T15:37:42+00:00

KnightC0re wrote:
Ok... k-pop mod... uh... I'll try my best.

Easy
00:35:124(4,1,2,3,4) - I just wanted to blanket the 4 and then I ended up moving all these... here's the result
Image

i see what u mean its good but rly not needed both okay
01:17:124(3) - I think this may look better
Image
i didnt do ur way but polished little
01:18:970(6) - This as well (It's just because of entering of object and whatnot)
Image
Literally everything is fine by me for 2 minutes...
03:18:970(6) - Might look better if flipped i made it little more flat
I got not much to think of to improve this much really.

Insane
00:33:739(1) - Finish the star? (That will be a lot of moving but I got this) i dont get ur point :c
Image

02:42:047(5) - Finish the star. (It even looks nice when it lines up with 6)
Image
I just have problem with unfinished star(Do i have a problem?) tried to understand whats finish star but now i get it k fixed lol

Uh... (Irrkiss diff is too perfect)

Yeah I don't know what I can do anymore.

thank u for mod !!

- Frontier - wrote:
Umm... Maybe use finger snap at the beginning of the song. I think it fits with the song.
Also, please change the vid to this lol

yea i may change that im going to do some hitsound change in general so later on
and LOL that video xD

Xiaolin

1,857 posts

Joined April 2013

Xiaolin 2017-03-16T12:37:23+00:00

KnightC0re wrote:
Firetruck's Normal
00:36:508(3) - It's just me but this might look better if it faces downwards I want to keep the flow with (1) smooth.
01:58:662(1) - Again, just me but this might look better Fixed.
Image
03:00:970 - An object here? There has to be a warm-up after a spinner, so no.
At this point I'm just looking for patterns I want to improve... and it's really hard

Thanks for modding.

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Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-03-16T12:58:39+00:00

thank u Lapis updated
im like TT i want rank ;w;

P A N

2,346 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2017-03-17T15:50:45+00:00

I incidentally saw this song which I like so I take a look here.

[Kiss]

00:55:201 - no 1/8 here like you did on 00:57:047 (4) ? the inconsistent makes there lacks of something tbh.
00:20:355 (3) - ahhh if replace with circle and add 1/4 slider on 00:20:585 would be nice because the vocal on 00:20:355 is kinda stop almost instantly while 00:20:585 is an extended vocal. it might sound a bit weird on 00:20:701 but you could silencer the tail.
00:37:431 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's so beauuuutiful yes but it might abuse the drain if player miss there if that's the only reason for spam NC here it's like the only place in the map you spam NC this much.
00:56:355 (2) - off the screen, move up a bit.
00:58:662 - no 4 sliders of 1/8 here? o.o if you try it, it really makes 00:59:585 (1) more peak as a downbeat. same for 02:12:508
02:10:893 - you didn't use 1/8 here to be consistent with the first part, tbh I don't want you to make consistentcy but 1/8 sounds and play better. also here 02:09:047 too.
02:14:585 - you could end spinner here at the beginning of vocal and make very slow slider on 02:14:816 to introduce the kiai too, I think it's fit with your style on this map o.o
03:23:124 (1) - no clap here? lacking something since you always use clap.

I love how creative and inconsistent of your diff, modder nowadays always want mapper to map all part consistent which is wrong because the song can be emphasize in many ways. good luck !

Last edited by P A N 2017-04-11T21:30:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Affirmation

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Affirmation 2017-03-18T09:50:43+00:00

이런 내맘 모르고 너무해 너무해

Lilyanna

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-03-18T10:04:44+00:00

same

Affirmation

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Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-03-21T22:22:20+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
same

lol

riffy

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riffy 2017-03-22T08:40:59+00:00

same tbh

[General]

The following hitsounds are marked as unused, you might want to give them a check.
1. normal-hitfinish88.wav
2. soft-hitclap1.wav
3. soft-hitnormal1.wav
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The breaks are somewhat inconsistent. We somehow ended up with Easy having more drain time than N/Adv. Perhaps we could somehow sort that out to keep the set structure more logical?

[Easy]

The spacing and Slider Velocity feel way too slow with Approach Rate 4. I'd probably lower it to 2,5 or 3.
01:43:893 (4,1) - given that this is the only overlap of this kind in the difficulty it feels sort of out of place, Is there any way we could avoid it?
01:17:124 (3) - and all the similar sliders - the vocals in these parts are build around the 3/2 rhythm, so, the 1/1 slider feels wrongly snapped as there are stronger beats before it. Conside rusing more 3/2 sliders to follow the vocals and keep the rhythm beginner-friendly.
01:43:893 (4,1) - I'd consider using a lot less 1/1 and more long sliders in this part. Lowering the object density here would make a good contrast with themore intense parts of the song, giving an overall more accurate feel to the difficulty.

Neat and simple. Cool.

[Firetruck's Normal]

01:16:662 - the way the clap is ignored feels somewhat confusing, perhaps, it could feel slightly better if you try using 3/4 sliders just like Advanced does. it will prevent polarity issues, makinmg the whole thing slightly easier to follow.
01:44:816 (3) - minor - I would give it some extra curves to match the drum stuff. Even the most generic shape like this would do.

I can't quite agree with the current usage of 3/4 patterns in this difficulty. Apart from that it looks good to me.

[wasin's Advanced]

00:30:739 (3) - feels like the rhythm could be more dense to match both drums and the vocals. Perhaps, something of that kind
Note: 00:59:124 (5) - something similar would happen here, as to give 00:59:585 - a clickable object. The drum/vocals sound like they just need some kind of a strong emphasis on that beat.
01:52:201 (2) - try using two stacked circles instead? This way the clear stop thingy in the music would be well represented with the stop in the flow/dynamic of the map. example

Lookin' good. I disagree with certain stuff, but apart from that it's all good.

[Nekomata's Hard]

00:23:124 (5,6) - this kind of stacks is pretty hard to get right, especially at this difficulty level. I'd recommend unstacking the 1/2 thing.
Note: 00:31:431 (9,10) - 01:36:970 (5,6) - same
Note2: 01:43:893 (1,2,3) - if you agree to change the previous ones, you might want to change that one as well.
00:29:470 (4,5) - probably you could space these two apart as well. Perviously most of the stacks of this kind used 1/2 beats, so it can be a bit misleading.
00:40:201 (3) - 00:42:047 (5) - 00:43:893 (5) - feels like using a 3/4 slider and a circle would work better here. This would help you stress the claps like 00:40:662 - a lot better. bsides, you've already used similar patterns on 00:18:970 (1,2) - they wer epretty fun to play, do I'd definitely love to see more of those 3/4s.
01:01:431 (1) - the sudden angle change can be a bit confusing here. Perhaps the classy arc-shaped slider would work better here.

Minor stuff here and there, fine otherwise.

[Insane]

00:41:585 (2,3) - this kind of patterns could use some slight jumps like x1.6 or so. So, that it wouldn't feel like a sudden sloddown after the jump on 00:41:124 (1,2).
Note: same would apply to 00:43:431 (2,3) -
00:46:662 (1) - align the slider tick with the red nod? This way the vocals will be synchronized with the slidercurve.
Note: 00:50:354 (1) - same.
00:54:047 (1,2,3,4) - I'd try gradually increasing the spacing in this kind of patterns. It will make them sightly more player friendly and nake more sense with the song
00:58:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - at this BPM the stream doesn't give much tension and feels pretty slow. I'd probably just keep the 1/4 sliders as they make the whole thing feel more dynamic, which matches the feel of the part better.
03:30:047 (1,2,3,4,5) - according to the pitch changes and the feel of the music increasing spacing would work better, I believe. Give it a try and see what works best for you.

Pretty nice. It's mostly just different ways of following the same idea that I suggest.

[Irrkiss' Insane]

I think that using specific combo colours to warn about fast/slower sliders would help out a lot.
00:45:739 (5,6) - could be pretty hard to read as this is the only stack in this pattern. What do you ythink about this?
00:53:355 (1,1,1) - 00:37:778 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 02:01:201 (1,1) - the comboing here feels excessive. You only need the first combo to show the start of the pattern and the last one to mar its end. Everything else just feels sort of spammed, I think.
00:56:355 (2) - this one goes offscreen slightly. Placing it higher would prevent this.
01:40:201 (1,2) - can we have the tails farther apart, so that the reverse arrow is clearly readable. It can be sort of hard to read as it is now.

Pretty neat. I like the way SV changes work with the song.

Pretty neat. Get back to me when you feel like it's ready to go.

Lilyanna

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Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-03-22T11:23:55+00:00

Bakari wrote:
same tbh

[General]
The following hitsounds are marked as unused, you might want to give them a check.
normal-hitfinish88.wav
soft-hitclap1.wav
soft-hitnormal1.wav
soft-hitwhistle1.wav
soft-sliderslide1.wav ohh totally forget those ;w; fixed
The breaks are somewhat inconsistent. We somehow ended up with Easy having more drain time than N/Adv. Perhaps we could somehow sort that out to keep the set structure more logical? oh yes because normal and advanced didnt map the slow part maybe i should also delete that part and make break either that or they map the breaks but since lower difficulty i think its good to have break for 3min for new players
[Easy]
The spacing and Slider Velocity feel way too slow with Approach Rate 4. I'd probably lower it to 2,5 or 3. sure
01:43:893 (4,1) - given that this is the only overlap of this kind in the difficulty it feels sort of out of place, Is there any way we could avoid it? yeap fixed
01:17:124 (3) - and all the similar sliders - the vocals in these parts are build around the 3/2 rhythm, so, the 1/1 slider feels wrongly snapped as there are stronger beats before it. Conside rusing more 3/2 sliders to follow the vocals and keep the rhythm beginner-friendly. omg i liked it i fixed all that parts in kiai with 3/2 x)
01:43:893 (4,1) - I'd consider using a lot less 1/1 and more long sliders in this part. Lowering the object density here would make a good contrast with themore intense parts of the song, giving an overall more accurate feel to the difficulty. but comparred to rest i used lot of 2/1 sliders in this part they are pretty long xd i mean that part does feel slow i guess

Neat and simple. Cool.

[Insane]
00:41:585 (2,3) - this kind of patterns could use some slight jumps like x1.6 or so. So, that it wouldn't feel like a sudden sloddown after the jump on 00:41:124 (1,2). yeap
Note: same would apply to 00:43:431 (2,3) -
00:46:662 (1) - align the slider tick with the red nod? This way the vocals will be synchronized with the slidercurve.
Note: 00:50:354 (1) - same. fixed
00:54:047 (1,2,3,4) - I'd try gradually increasing the spacing in this kind of patterns. It will make them sightly more player friendly and nake more sense with the song but they does go from 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0 ;w;
00:58:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - at this BPM the stream doesn't give much tension and feels pretty slow. I'd probably just keep the 1/4 sliders as they make the whole thing feel more dynamic, which matches the feel of the part better. tbh i like it because i kinda variated in second part of song so its fine also i think it fits also ur suggestion fit but since i variated in more logic way in second part i dont like change ;w;
03:30:047 (1,2,3,4,5) - according to the pitch changes and the feel of the music increasing spacing would work better, I believe. Give it a try and see what works best for you. yes agree i made this closer 03:29:124 (1,2,3,4) - andthen spaced the stream in end i hope shape is good lol

Pretty nice. It's mostly just different ways of following the same idea that I suggest.

Pretty neat. Get back to me when you feel like it's ready to go.

thank you alot hype owo ♥

Xiaolin

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Joined April 2013

Xiaolin 2017-03-22T11:52:24+00:00

Bakari wrote:
[Firetruck's Normal]
01:16:662 - the way the clap is ignored feels somewhat confusing, perhaps, it could feel slightly better if you try using 3/4 sliders just like Advanced does. it will prevent polarity issues, makinmg the whole thing slightly easier to follow. Fixed.
01:44:816 (3) - minor - I would give it some extra curves to match the drum stuff. Even the most generic shape like this would do. Added curves instead.

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Thanks for modding.

wasin

wasin 2017-03-22T15:20:34+00:00

Bakari wrote:
[wasin's Advanced]
00:30:739 (3) - feels like the rhythm could be more dense to match both drums and the vocals. Perhaps, something of that kind fixed
Note: 00:59:124 (5) - something similar would happen here, as to give 00:59:585 - a clickable object. The drum/vocals sound like they just need some kind of a strong emphasis on that beat.
01:52:201 (2) - try using two stacked circles instead? This way the clear stop thingy in the music would be well represented with the stop in the flow/dynamic of the map. example I tried, but i didn't see the difference much after changing this slider to stacked circles, also slider 01:52:201 (2) - parallel with 01:54:047 (3) -

Lookin' good. I disagree with certain stuff, but apart from that it's all good.
thank you for modding !!!

wasin's

https://puu.sh/uUEQN/f83365d7fe.osu

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-03-25T00:06:22+00:00

got permission to make changes to irre's part where neccessary, give me a while to look through the mods

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2017-03-27T19:14:56+00:00

Bakari wrote:
[Nekomata's Hard]
00:23:124 (5,6) - this kind of stacks is pretty hard to get right, especially at this difficulty level. I'd recommend unstacking the 1/2 thing. fixed
Note: 00:31:431 (9,10) - not fixed, it's more similar to those 1/4 sliders before kiai 01:36:970 (5,6) - same fixed
Note2: 01:43:893 (1,2,3) - if you agree to change the previous ones, you might want to change that one as well. intentionally a diff spike here,
but if it's definitely unreadable (not just challenging but literally impossible for this level) then i'll change it
00:29:470 (4,5) - probably you could space these two apart as well. Perviously most of the stacks of this kind used 1/2 beats, so it can be a bit misleading. it's fine imo, it doesn't really come out of nowhere
00:40:201 (3) - 00:42:047 (5) - 00:43:893 (5) - feels like using a 3/4 slider and a circle would work better here. This would help you stress the claps like 00:40:662 - a lot better. bsides, you've already used similar patterns on 00:18:970 (1,2) - they wer epretty fun to play, do I'd definitely love to see more of those 3/4s. changed some of them to a 1/2 pattern instead, tbh the 3/4 sliders only fit on the downbeat. unlike some mappers in 2017 i don't abuse 3/4s lol
01:01:431 (1) - the sudden angle change can be a bit confusing here. Perhaps the classy arc-shaped slider would work better here. made it milder

Minor stuff here and there, fine otherwise.

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