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bagnz0r
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bagnz0r
I have AGP x8 version of PowerColor Radeon HD2600 Pro 256M.
I'm really concerned about my stock fan vibrating and not cooling the GPU much...
Here's the sound of the noise it emits:
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/28455367/gpu.m4a
You can even hear it in a room 20 meters away.
When it's working as it should, idle temperature doesn't exceed 42C and 54C in use. However, when it's not at its full performance idle temperature varies from 50C to 52C and 60 - 67C in use.
I don't really have money today to buy a new cooler. So... Will it survive at least for one more week?
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maal
maal

bagnz0r wrote:

I don't really have money today to buy a new cooler. So... Will it survive at least for one more week?
Surely.
bagnz0r
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Emaal wrote:

bagnz0r wrote:

I don't really have money today to buy a new cooler. So... Will it survive at least for one more week?
Surely.
Even under hardcore utilization?
maal
maal
I can't guarentee anything about the cooler, but the GPU overheating shouldn't be a problem. I had the HD2600 XT, which easily ran over 90C at full load.
bagnz0r
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Emaal wrote:

I can't guarentee anything about the cooler, but the GPU overheating shouldn't be a problem. I had the HD2600 XT, which easily ran over 90C at full load.
Ah, then it's cool. Thanks.
SilentKiller
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Joined December 2010
SilentKiller
I think its time for you to upgrade your pc...
Pokebis
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Joined April 2008
Pokebis
If it's just for a week simply don't do any "hardcore utilization."
Play it safe and you should be fine.
TKiller
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Joined May 2009
TKiller
You could've just goggle'd it, y'know?
Vext_old
987 posts
Joined October 2010
Vext_old

TKiller wrote:

goggle'd
Is that like "mind bottling"?
Corin
910 posts
Joined January 2011
Corin
My GPU Idles at 70'c and When playing osu! blasts off to 100'C min.

It still lives.
It has no fan but a heatsink.
It has lasted me 3 years or so now.

Problem?
bagnz0r
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Corin wrote:

My GPU Idles at 70'c and When playing osu! blasts off to 100'C min.

It still lives.
It has no fan but a heatsink.
It has lasted me 3 years or so now.

Problem?
Yeah, its driver caused BSOD 6 times a little while ago.
Now it's idling at 50 - 58C.
Guy-kun
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Joined December 2009
Guy-kun
I think you've got the wrong URL again bagno
Hruhf
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Joined July 2009
Hruhf
My GPU's heatsink/fan broke a while ago. It ended up idling at 160 degrees. Celcius.
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
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Ephemeral

Hruhf wrote:

My GPU's heatsink/fan broke a while ago. It ended up idling at 160 degrees. Celcius.
i would believe you if that wasn't approaching the upper limit of conventional solder melting point

at that point the radiant heat from the card would be damaging the motherboard anyway. the plastic around the pcie port would probably start melting long before that.
whymeman
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whymeman

bagnz0r wrote:

Corin wrote:

My GPU Idles at 70'c and When playing osu! blasts off to 100'C min.

It still lives.
It has no fan but a heatsink.
It has lasted me 3 years or so now.

Problem?
Yeah, its driver caused BSOD 6 times a little while ago.
Now it's idling at 50 - 58C.
Okay so.... we're talking about....

70 degrees Celsius = 158 degrees Fahrenheit -> 100 degrees Celsius = 212 degrees Fahrenheit

What the hell... that's the temperature water starts to boil... Personally, anything reaching a certain temperature and still going higher, I should start feeling worried about the risk of blowing stuff up or melting the card. And are you overclocking the crap out of the GPU or something? Besides that, is there a known issue of the product having heat sink failures? I would be quite upset myself if I paid a lot of money only to deal with that (hopefully there is a good warranty on it. If not, check into upgrading your tower's cooling ability and/or maybe start investing some backup funds for a new card soon).

And on the side note, 160 degrees Celsius = 320 degrees Fahrenheit. I'm pretty sure something would be on fire already at that point....

Here's more info the solder material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
Hruhf
8 posts
Joined July 2009
Hruhf
I didn't even think it was physically possible for it to go that high.

Shame I no longer have a desktop.
whymeman
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whymeman
If you're able to still save the leftovers like the Hard Drives, some wires, or anything that wasn't fried, you could try to build a new one or just use the parts on a new already built PC
ziin
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ziin

whymeman wrote:

And on the side note, 160 degrees Celsius = 320 degrees Fahrenheit. I'm pretty sure something would be on fire already at that point....

Here's more info the solder material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
160 C, while outrageously abnormal, will not make anything burn or melt, even the solder. Though the actual core temperature may be much higher.

If your GPU at load is above 85 C, you should probably clean off the heatsink. I've had my GPU up to 105, but once I cleaned it, it was back down to 80 C. GPUs are usually designed to stay under 105 C, whereas CPUs are designed to stay under 85 C. Typical idling temperatures are 30-40 C, with loads above 45 for CPU and 60 for GPU.

If you're getting blue screens after an update, underclock the GPU. That same GPU which was at 105 C never got hotter than 70 C with the fan and clocks on minimum, and I could still play lots of games.

Also, heatsinks can't "fail". They have no moving parts, and can't break since they're usually one solid piece of metal. You can probably just replace the fan.
Corin
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Joined January 2011
Corin

whymeman wrote:

Corin wrote:

My GPU Idles at 70'c and When playing osu! blasts off to 100'C min.

It still lives.
It has no fan but a heatsink.
It has lasted me 3 years or so now.

Problem?
70 degrees Celsius = 158 degrees Fahrenheit -> 100 degrees Celsius = 212 degrees Fahrenheit

What the hell... that's the temperature water starts to boil... Personally, anything reaching a certain temperature and still going higher, I should start feeling worried about the risk of blowing stuff up or melting the card. And are you overclocking the crap out of the GPU or something? Besides that, is there a known issue of the product having heat sink failures? I would be quite upset myself if I paid a lot of money only to deal with that (hopefully there is a good warranty on it. If not, check into upgrading your tower's cooling ability and/or maybe start investing some backup funds for a new card soon).

And on the side note, 160 degrees Celsius = 320 degrees Fahrenheit. I'm pretty sure something would be on fire already at that point....

Here's more info the solder material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
Nawh it's all good, It went higher than 100 when i played bioshock.

But no it's not overclocked, however there is a cap missing.
Some prick broke it off, other than that though it STILL runs!

Quite pleased with it's resistance to just DIE xD
whymeman
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whymeman

ziin wrote:

Also, heatsinks can't "fail". They have no moving parts, and can't break since they're usually one solid piece of metal. You can probably just replace the fan.
Actually, the heatsink uses two things.

1.) The fins shaped on to the metal of the heatsink can easily transfer the heat into the air (which can actually fail at cooling after excess dust build up from neglect). It also only works as good as the air that flow through and around it.

2.) Thermal paste.... the heat sink fins are useless if the thermal paste is not used with the heatsink, unless the part(s) built for that unit can run without it which i've yet to hear about and doubt it would work well like that.
bagnz0r
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

whymeman wrote:

Okay so.... we're talking about....

70 degrees Celsius = 158 degrees Fahrenheit -> 100 degrees Celsius = 212 degrees Fahrenheit

What the hell... that's the temperature water starts to boil... Personally, anything reaching a certain temperature and still going higher, I should start feeling worried about the risk of blowing stuff up or melting the card. And are you overclocking the crap out of the GPU or something? Besides that, is there a known issue of the product having heat sink failures? I would be quite upset myself if I paid a lot of money only to deal with that (hopefully there is a good warranty on it. If not, check into upgrading your tower's cooling ability and/or maybe start investing some backup funds for a new card soon).

And on the side note, 160 degrees Celsius = 320 degrees Fahrenheit. I'm pretty sure something would be on fire already at that point....

Here's more info the solder material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
It was overclocked by 250 MHz @ core up until heatsink started to fail.
600 MHz -> 850 MHz
And by 100MHz on ram chips.
800 MHz -> 900 MHz

As far as I'm concerned BGA chips are soldered to PCB with lead-free solder that has higher melting point at around 210C.
Fabi
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Joined September 2009
Fabi
Just put a big block of plate or copper with heatpipe ( slim the better it is) over the chipset and wala.
Darkimmortal
264 posts
Joined May 2008
Darkimmortal
Late reply, but I had this same card (except Sapphire, but probably same cooler) ages ago with the exact same problem. Though it never managed to die from overheating, it did cause the PC to hard lock once the temperatures hit insane levels (yours are somehow nowhere near). Another 40C and you should start worrying :)

A temporary solution once the fan completely failed was to stick some old PCI card under it, and on top of this an 80mm fan mounted on blutack. Worked wonders.
bagnz0r
Topic Starter
bagnz0r

Darkimmortal wrote:

Late reply, but I had this same card (except Sapphire, but probably same cooler) ages ago with the exact same problem. Though it never managed to die from overheating, it did cause the PC to hard lock once the temperatures hit insane levels (yours are somehow nowhere near). Another 40C and you should start worrying :)

A temporary solution once the fan completely failed was to stick some old PCI card under it, and on top of this an 80mm fan mounted on blutack. Worked wonders.
Well, I did this and I'm at 40 - 44C idle.
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