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thanks everyone who helped me out for making this loved possible, now its a waiting game for gders to finish ! c:
Axarian
Minako's diff

00:14:707 (8,1) - this overlap here isn't really appealing instead they should be separated but thats imo

00:52:207 (2) - i don't see a reason for a slider velocity change here

02:30:082 (9,10) - a note should be placed between this note and slider

Fenix Extra

01:06:645 (2,2) - needs to be sliders since vocals are held here (or if it was an intention to create pauses)

01:23:895 (5) - this reverse slider can be replaced with something else to fit the vocals better

02:06:645 (2) - slider should be used instead of a single note since vocals are held here

02:51:645 (2) - same as above

02:52:207 (2) - another held vocal where slider should be used

03:11:332 (1) - the slider velocity change here is really cruel especially since its at the end of the map lol so i suggest just lengthening the slider
Xelite

Arastelia wrote:

Fenix Extra

01:06:645 (2,2) - needs to be sliders since vocals are held here (or if it was an intention to create pauses)

01:23:895 (5) - this reverse slider can be replaced with something else to fit the vocals better

02:06:645 (2) - slider should be used instead of a single note since vocals are held here

02:51:645 (2) - same as above

02:52:207 (2) - another held vocal where slider should be used

03:11:332 (1) - the slider velocity change here is really cruel especially since its at the end of the map lol so i suggest just lengthening the slider
Updated: About velocity i think you told about slider at the end of map 03:15:082 (1). Fixed all, thanks.
Lune

Arastelia wrote:

Minako's diff

00:14:707 (8,1) - this overlap here isn't really appealing instead they should be separated but thats imo That's better like this I guess.. Sliders like that aren't really cool separated

00:52:207 (2) - i don't see a reason for a slider velocity change here Because of the vocals which lasts

02:30:082 (9,10) - a note should be placed between this note and slider Following vocals at this part, hence 02:30:270 - is the end of her sentence and it starts again at 02:30:645 (10) - there should be no reason to place a note between
Thanks for modding
Nuolong
brb my sexy ass diff is coming
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Note: Fix od
Nuolong
make sure u put betastar in tags
i think l o l
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Nuolong wrote:

make sure u put betastar in tags
i think l o l
o rite i forgot i am bs xd
Lune

Nuolong wrote:

brb my sexy ass diff is coming
yes ma boy
Nuolong
omg hoi rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i rly need help picking a bias now it used 2 be jenny but now it's all of dem
Aeril
[Fenix3999]
  1. too many things to say really uhh
  2. aesthetics arent really developed that much like 00:13:395 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:23:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - placing seems very random/only flow
  3. 01:04:207 (4,1,4,1,1) - you resolved multiple times here in the top right corner, very boring, would be better to have it end elsewhere.
  4. 00:44:520 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - kinda just a circle, no real interconnections between the circles
  5. 02:06:082 (1,1,1,1,1) - nc spam for no real reason
  6. 02:12:457 (2,1) - big spaces between beats, skipping a big white beat 02:12:832 - here.
  7. 02:24:832 - same here as well
  8. 00:14:707 (1) - this should probably be a slider as they hum a note here.
  9. 00:19:395 (4) - you end on a big beat on this slider which should probably be clickable as its the end of an old phrase and start of a new vocal phrase.
  10. noticed throughout the map you dont really like putting things in the middle which can be seen if you press ctrl a and see the evident difference in density.

  1. 01:06:457 (1,1) - dont do double ncs like this for no real reason, theyre of the same vocal phrase so remove the second nc imo
  2. 01:14:895 (4,1) - both of these should be sliders as you completely leave the held note open and skip the beats inbetween.
  3. 01:17:895 (3,1) - 02:14:895 (4,1) - 02:17:895 (3,1) - same here as well
  4. 00:01:395 (1,1,1) - 00:04:395 (1) - 00:05:520 (1) - 00:07:395 (1,1,1) - 00:10:395 (1,1,1) - 01:26:614 (1,1,1) - 01:28:114 (1,1,1) - why are all of these ncs ;-;
  5. 01:32:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - why are you even using such HUGE spacing in the normal part of the song instead of the chorus?
  6. 01:49:020 (1,1) - since these are all of the same rhythm imo you should remove these ncs and add one 01:48:645 (4) - here.
  7. 02:00:270 (2,3,1) - extremely awkward jump here also the last one is the most emphasized note and you use the least spacing there.
  8. theres a bunch more places in the map where the same problems occur that i listed before.
-CD
Hey! This is Jay from the modding queue!

Congratz on getting accepted :)

Now lets get to this mod!

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00:13:207 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This honestly looks really unorganized, fix this.
00:31:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again unorganized looking, messy look, move the 7 to the left a bit but still keep that stack with the (1) slider
00:36:082 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - Movement of this seems a bit off, move the (2,3,4) up a bit.
00:40:020 (1,2) - I would definitely stack these
00:41:332 (1,2) - These too, because earlier you stacked them because the singer is saying bebe so it would make more sense to stack them here as well
00:45:645 (6) - Just make this a circle, no need for a slider here. This also helps with the transition to the next note, if it were a circle.
00:48:457 (1) - Personally I would stack this with the 5 because it is definitely easier to read considering the spacing and the ending note. So do that...
00:57:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Minimize the spacing a bit. Not too much just make the seven a tinsie bit closer.
01:14:520 (2) - There are multiple notes that stack this... why? too much stacking just looks messy.
01:33:832 (1,2,3,4) - This has the same timing as the other section but this is way more spaced out, there isn't a change in the beat...
01:37:395 (1) - Move the one closer to the two
02:37:395 (1,1,1,1) - This isn't a mod I just really liked what you did with this part, it fits the song really well :D
03:15:082 (1) - That slow slider <3

Overall Rating: This map was very very good, I will definitely give this another playthrough! Work on the spacing and jumps and you have yourself a ranked map!
- Pika
Heyo. Fenix Diff seems A Okay! :)
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-AsrieLx- wrote:

Heyo. Fenix Diff seems A Okay! :)
thanks for having a look, but uhh that diff still needs a bit more polishing before i can approve to continue with it (thats why there is fenix diff mod spam :p)
timemon
[Fenix3999's Extra]
00:13:395 (3,6) - Be a little careful when you place your objects, this one overlaps which is bad. Try to hover all of your jumps like this http://i.imgur.com/w3bax4b.png . You see the 6 is really out of place. You can try this for example you can fix like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8440685. Simply by selecting the left side of that pattern, Copy Paste it, rotate it 180 degrees then stack the 8 under 3. you get a much better looking pattern while you only have to map half of the circles! and Why am I spending on much time writing on this jump but this applies to other stuff too

00:16:207 (2,8) - same issue it's overlap and doesn't look good when you select all the objects make them look cleaner by spreading them out a bit.

00:23:707 (3,4) - should stack under 00:22:770 (3,4) - because the overlap looks bad.

00:37:582 (6,7) - This breaks the flow, and it is quite hard for player to properly acc a 3/4 gap as it's not normal 1/2, 1/1 gaps. Try this http://i.imgur.com/4qUk9Wj.png
00:39:082 (5,6) - same

01:14:707 (3) - overlap
01:19:020 (3,6) -
^ You get the idea, you should fix these overlaps and stuff as they make your map looks less polished.

02:22:020 (5) - Obligatory Blanket Mod

02:54:270 (7) - IMO when the map stops, the final object should a circle not a sliderend because circle can give a much better feedback than sliderend.
Simply change this slider to 2 circles and the 2nd circle stacked under 02:54:832 (1) - to help the player not to mistake it for another 1/2 jump but a 1/1 gap.

Sorry if I sound really weird here I'm a bit confused.

I assume diffs that do not have a player name after them are made by the creator? Sexy Nuolong Time and [ M I N A K O ]'s Insane look solid
Nuolong

-AsrieLx- wrote:

Heyo. Fenix Diff seems A Okay! :)
박쥐네요?
[Nemesis]
Mod from my queue.

Fenix3999's Extra

goddamn it kpop again

so first of all: I hate jumpy maps and I hate kpop, so you don't necessarily need to follow my advice (also with this priority you can just go for loved since the map lacks full spread)

why no korean bois on the bg lol

00:00:832 (1,1,1,1) - I suggest you fix stacking on these, it's off by like 1-2 pixels on every object (applies to this and many more)
00:06:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why is it spaced so densely, you have a 1/2 beat window before that so you might as well move it further away
00:06:739 (8,1) - inconsistent spacing
00:08:895 (2,3) - just copypaste this lol
00:12:832 - at this point the song became like 10x worse to listen to, sorry it's not my style :(
00:13:957 (6) - move it up a little, stacks by like 1 pixel with 00:13:395 (3) -
01:14:332 (1,2,3,4) - I don't get this, these circles look just randomly placed without reason
01:55:957 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - remove all these NCs except for the first one

can't find anything else besides those fundamental flaws with stacking and jumps without a reason, good luck I guess
Nuolong

[Nemesis] wrote:

so first of all: I hate jumpy maps and I hate kpop, so you don't necessarily need to follow my advice (also with this priority you can just go for loved since the map lacks full spread)

why no korean bois on the bg lol
Ye this is gunna be for loved
And o shi great idea ... . .. hei sidetail I wanna change my bg to my BeBe @@@1!!1!1!11!122!1#!21!1!!1!
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Nuolong wrote:

[Nemesis] wrote:

so first of all: I hate jumpy maps and I hate kpop, so you don't necessarily need to follow my advice (also with this priority you can just go for loved since the map lacks full spread)

why no korean bois on the bg lol
Ye this is gunna be for loved
And o shi great idea ... . .. hei sidetail I wanna change my bg to my BeBe @@@1!!1!1!11!122!1#!21!1!!1!
probs no bois cuz girl group song, but k changed for nuolong's diff xd

[Nemesis] wrote:

goddamn it kpop again

[Nemesis] wrote:

I hate jumpy maps and I hate kpop
haha sam etbh

regardless, thanks for mods!
Xelite
Thanks, i'm still new in mapping so that's amazing experience for me. Fixed almost all, also soon i'll remap few places.
Nuolong

Fenix3999 wrote:

Thanks, i'm still new in mapping so that's amazing experience for me. Fixed almost all, also soon i'll remap few places.
Good luck on your journey of mapping (ㆁωㆁ*)
Neptunee
owo
Lune
Nolan I love you

From T0P
Nuolong

[ M I N A K O ] wrote:

Nolan I love you

From T0P
dies
Kaudae
I love this map :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Apllon wrote:

I love this map :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Thanks for playing and for supporting~





also 700th post /shrug
630
I love this map! Great choice of background picture! :)
This makes me want to start mapping.
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630 wrote:

I love this map! Great choice of background picture! :)
This makes me want to start mapping.
Nice work on complimenting yourself for finding the bg :^)

btw rip megatron's waterbottle
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uwu AIM diff with hdhrdtfl =

is this even real life







it's joke
Nuolong
w o w z a uwu easy uwu pp uwu so uwu pp much uwu
cosmic

Sidetail wrote:

uwu AIM diff with hdhrdtfl =

is this even real life







it's joke
do you pull out ur pp wherever you go? There are children here man!
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cosmiccc wrote:

do you pull out ur pp wherever you go? There are children here man!
Ha.
SolarFox
when loved
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[M I N A K O]

pretty solid hard diff. nice!

00:26:895 (6) - these overlaps are dirty, considering how the rest of the maps use perfect overlaps
00:29:520 (5) - for some reason the placement of this note extremely bothers me... i'd just rotate the 5,6,7 so that the 7 is where the 5 is now
00:36:457 (1) - and 00:39:457 (1) - there should definitely be a click on this down beat. maybe you could make the previous slider 3/4
00:48:457 (1) - same here
00:48:457 (1) - this section feels a bit overmapped relative to the beginning considering that the drum line dropped out. the hitsound volume isn't really helping either
00:52:207 (2) - why is this slider so slow?
01:05:332 (1) - 01:07:207 (6) - silence the end of this slider
01:09:832 (1,2,3,4) - this is a pretty deformed parallelogram. at least make sure 1-2 is the same distance as 3-4
01:19:582 (8,9) - 01:39:082 (4,6) - blanket
01:26:332 (1) - why are these so fast?
01:49:957 (1) - same thing about clicking on the end
02:00:082 (5,6,7,8) - can you make it look like the smaller diamond?
02:02:332 (1) - holy copypaste lol
02:31:114 (2) - 02:31:864 (5) - i'd overlap this with the one a little bit to show that it's on the blue tick
02:47:332 (1) - ok can we at least get something different for the end please lol

[Xelite]

jumps seem a bit arbitrary and there just for the sake of making it "hard". put more thought into it
considering the difficulty of this map, i think you could lower the AR a bit to 9 and HP and OD as well but that's just me

00:06:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - not really comfortable having this stream here but it's fine for now i guess?
00:09:457 (4) - make this look like 3, with the same curve
00:09:832 (1,2,1,2) - these sliders are kinda digging into each other, if you make it a bit straighter it would look better
00:17:707 (2,3) - this 1/4 jump is ridiculously awkward and unjustified. move it a bit closer
00:21:082 (3) - would prefer something clickable on the end of this slider
00:22:395 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - use rotate 180 to make this look not as random
00:24:832 (1) - this really belongs on the other (left, bottom) side tbh
00:29:520 (2,3,4,5) - the hell is this shape?
00:32:332 (1,2,3,4) - i like this
00:44:332 - missing a note
00:46:770 (5) - if it were me i'd put 2 more notes after this to make this a triple
01:02:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ......
01:05:145 (1) - the middle note in this slider should be a down beat. what you could do is turn this into a circle + slider
01:50:707 (1) - if you're going to start going off beats here, you should put something on the first down beat at least: 01:50:332
02:39:082 (1) - put a break after this. no need to drain hp here
02:49:957 (1) - need a down beat at the end of this
02:57:457 (7) - make this angled for consistency
03:00:270 (1,2,1) - bad spacing

[Coppertine]

lower the AR. doesn't need to be 9.6 for a 5.3* map
CHILL ON THE NCS. a lot of the NCs are inconsistent with the other NCs in the map too. i don't really want to point out every NC issue but just go look at the other difficulties and learn how it's done
whether you map to the vocals or the instrumentals is pretty inconsistent. all the 3/4 sliders are supported by the vocals and the 1/2 spaced jumps are following the instrumental, but you switch between them randomly

00:00:832 (1,2,3,4) - silence the ends of all these sliders. in fact, i would recommend just making it 1/1 instead of 5/4 cuz of the slider tick
00:12:082 (1) - woah man
00:14:332 (1) - silence these sliders. you get the deal
00:21:082 (2,3) - why isn't this a 3/4 slider?
00:22:207 (4) - no sound
00:32:332 (1,1,1,1) - i like this
00:50:520 (2) - just make this a 1/2 slider to get the hitsound
01:00:082 (1,1) - you could make the sv a bit slower cuz they're echos
01:07:957 (1) - that's some intense blanketing
01:27:832 (1,1,1,1,1) - even though the last slider on the synth sound is straight, you should still make it longer than the other four preceding sliders (actually i'd just make the four sliders shorter to bring out the contrast)
01:29:332 (1) - s i l e n c e
01:34:957 (1) - why isn't this 3/4?
01:37:395 (1) - overmap
01:40:582 (3,4) - i think that little sound is too soft to justify putting these 1/4 repeats here
01:50:332 (1) - section starting here: lazy
01:56:332 (1,1) - why are these suddenly mapped to the vocals?
02:41:332 (2) - no sound
03:11:332 (1) - questionable rankability
03:12:832 (1,1,1,1) - these sliders are kind of digging into each other. i don't like it. make it a bit less round

[Nuolong]

some of your 1/2 sliders go in pretty awkward directions so it makes the jumps flow (i hate using this word) kinda weird
difficulty settings are perfect

00:30:457 (1,1) - not sure how i feel about this 1/4 jump but it's playable so it's ok
00:42:645 (9,10) - can we get rid of the 10 or make this into a slider? otherwise i'd see this as a 7-note stream starting on the 9 when it's really a 5-note starting on the down beat
00:48:832 (1) - i like the use of longer sliders to make this section seem lower in intensity, but i'd like it even more if the sv and spacing were lowered as well
00:59:145 (8) - i'd change this to a single note to distinguish it
01:08:332 (1) - rotate this shape 180 lol
01:11:989 (4,5) - put another note on 1 here to emphasize the vocal like you did in the last kiai
02:02:332 (1) - ok copy pasting on the hard diff is understandable but please why
Enkrypton
From my queue. Sorry for very late reply lol, my computer broke and i just got osu to work on my crappy macbook.
I'll get your Banner art done as soon as i get my computer fixed or get Photoshop to work. (If you still need it)
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I think its good to be more conventional with the Difficulty names
1 bg is like IRL women while the rest is all anime girls. I mean there is no issue there but i kinda wanted to point that out

M I N A K O
00:01:957 (3) - move slider tail left a little so it blankets 00:01:395 (2) - better
00:14:707 (8,1) - i suggest just overlapping the slider tail with the slider head instead of then just barely touching each other
00:16:207 (3,4,5) - I'd angle this so it looks more like a equilateral triangle
make 00:26:145 (4) - copy paste of 00:25:395 (2) - and blanket 00:26:707 (5) - better. then put 00:26:895 (6) - on slider tail of slider 4 for aesthetics mostly
00:27:082 (7,8) - overlap tail and head of sliders completely
00:35:707 (9) - NC here, change in tone for vocals.
01:15:270 (4,5) - try to overlap this better, the slider head of 4 overlaps the slider of 5 a little too much comparing to your previous slider overlaps
01:18:270 (4,5) - ^^^
01:50:520 (2) - move this down a little and a little to the right
02:04:582 (5) - is mapped to a distinct 2 vowel word, maybe make it a slider?
uwu DT
00:15:082 (1,2) - i wouldn't try to do a blanket here with such a short slider and huge CS here. re-position this part maybe?
01:06:082 (4) - i dont see a point in a curvy slider like this when its not interacting with 01:06:457 (5,6) -. I'd say u can keep the unique curves but try to do a small blanket with 01:06:645 (6) -
01:34:957 (1) - Remove ur custom hitsounds here cause it gets really weird sounding when used alot in a short amount of time. Use a lighter sounding hitsound here instead.
01:43:582 (1) - ^
02:33:082 (1) - ^
02:39:082 (3) - ^
02:51:082 (3) - remove red anchor here cause this slider looks pretty weird and outta place

I'm pretty bad at modding 5*+ but uwu DT has huge CS lol. So, thats about it for your mod.
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@Enkrypton

oh, didn't need to mod 'uwu' diffs at all (in the description) you probably missed it xD

and thanks so much for banner ;w;
Nuolong

Enkrypton wrote:

1 bg is like IRL women while the rest is all anime girls. I mean there is no issue there but i kinda wanted to point that out
최승현 NOT AN ANIME GURLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO AAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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Coppertine is banned so I am posting in place of him:

Coppertine wrote:

lower the AR. doesn't need to be 9.6 for a 5.3* map - This map was originally a 5.6/5.7* map, but yeah. I will lower it down to 9.2
CHILL ON THE NCS. a lot of the NCs are inconsistent with the other NCs in the map too. i don't really want to point out every NC issue but just go look at the other difficulties and learn how it's done - I think that is fixed
whether you map to the vocals or the instrumentals is pretty inconsistent. all the 3/4 sliders are supported by the vocals and the 1/2 spaced jumps are following the instrumental, but you switch between them randomly - it's a bit weird to explain why i change it a lot
00:00:832 (1,2,3,4) - silence the ends of all these sliders. in fact, i would recommend just making it 1/1 instead of 5/4 cuz of the slider tick - I actually like the slider tick there. and I want to teach the player that many of the sliders are 5/4 throughout the map with various speed changes and to challenge/trick the player to jumping to each one through slider leniency. Sure this wont work on score v2. but I think it's fine like this
00:12:082 (1) - woah man - Following same way as uwu diff
00:14:332 (1) - silence these sliders. you get the deal - look above two
00:21:082 (2,3) - why isn't this a 3/4 slider? - I wanted to show the player that that type of slider end with hitobject is being used later on by giving them a small blanket
00:22:207 (4) - no sound - I hate inconsistent rhythm with each object, I am not a favourite with the player waiting as they are already jumping at a nice pace.
00:32:332 (1,1,1,1) - i like this - thx! :D
00:50:520 (2) - just make this a 1/2 slider to get the hitsound - It has the same way so I dont want the player confused to thinking that it is shorter. plus that would break the vocal placements.
01:00:082 (1,1) - you could make the sv a bit slower cuz they're echos - I was thinking of that. but cant as I need a good enough space for the player to jump to the other side of the screen.
01:07:957 (1) - that's some intense blanketing - Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
01:27:832 (1,1,1,1,1) - even though the last slider on the synth sound is straight, you should still make it longer than the other four preceding sliders (actually i'd just make the four sliders shorter to bring out the contrast) - the jump for the next object is big and want to give them a 1/2 gap
01:29:332 (1) - s i l e n c e - I am questioned as to why that is.. I am using 8 1/8 sliders
01:34:957 (1) - why isn't this 3/4? - because there is a voice there.
01:37:395 (1) - overmap - I love to use the 1/4 gap after a slider. so no... Plus,
01:40:582 (3,4) - i think that little sound is too soft to justify putting these 1/4 repeats here - Actually I am using the fast paced chain sounding things as inspiration for the 1/4 repeats.
01:50:332 (1) - section starting here: lazy - this originally had larger jumps along with it. Then was told that they were too much... so i think that is one of the reasons that i was out of ideas at that time and began to get lazy.
01:56:332 (1,1) - why are these suddenly mapped to the vocals? - Because those are the main ones showing at that time?
02:41:332 (2) - no sound - wanted to keep the same movement of the prev objects
03:11:332 (1) - questionable rankability - this is for loved btw
03:12:832 (1,1,1,1) - these sliders are kind of digging into each other. i don't like it. make it a bit less round - it was the only way i could blanket those...
01:27:832 (1,1,1,1,1) - even though the last slider on the synth sound is straight, you should still make it longer than the other four preceding sliders (actually i'd just make the four sliders shorter to bring out the contrast) - the jump for the next object is big and want to give them a 1/2 gap
01:29:332 (1) - s i l e n c e - I am questioned as to why that is.. I am using 8 1/8 sliders
01:34:957 (1) - why isn't this 3/4? - because there is a voice there.
01:37:395 (1) - overmap - I love to use the 1/4 gap after a slider. so no... Plus,
01:40:582 (3,4) - i think that little sound is too soft to justify putting these 1/4 repeats here - Actually I am using the fast paced chain sounding things as inspiration for the 1/4 repeats.
01:50:332 (1) - section starting here: lazy - this originally had larger jumps along with it. Then was told that they were too much... so i think that is one of the reasons that i was out of ideas at that time and began to get lazy.
01:56:332 (1,1) - why are these suddenly mapped to the vocals? - Because those are the main ones showing at that time?
02:41:332 (2) - no sound - wanted to keep the same movement of the prev objects
03:11:332 (1) - questionable rankability - this is for loved btw
03:12:832 (1,1,1,1) - these sliders are kind of digging into each other. i don't like it. make it a bit less round - it was the only way i could blanket those...
Updated.
Lune

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[M I N A K O]

pretty solid hard diff. nice! Sankyu ♥

00:26:895 (6) - these overlaps are dirty, considering how the rest of the maps use perfect overlaps changed
00:29:520 (5) - for some reason the placement of this note extremely bothers me... i'd just rotate the 5,6,7 so that the 7 is where the 5 is now I wanted to copy the slider before, also if i overlap 5 and 7 there would be a jump and then nothing which is not what i wanted
00:36:457 (1) - and 00:39:457 (1) - there should definitely be a click on this down beat. maybe you could make the previous slider 3/4 I'm following the vocals over there and I don't think that's necessary to make it clickable, it'll just be more difficult
00:48:457 (1) - same here ^
00:48:457 (1) - this section feels a bit overmapped relative to the beginning considering that the drum line dropped out. the hitsound volume isn't really helping either It's not overmapped, I followed vocals + beat there. It's easier than the bridge part in my opinion lol
00:52:207 (2) - why is this slider so slow? Surprise effect
01:05:332 (1) - 01:07:207 (6) - silence the end of this slider done
01:09:832 (1,2,3,4) - this is a pretty deformed parallelogram. at least make sure 1-2 is the same distance as 3-4 this is the point, it isn't supposed to be a parallelogram but 2 circles line, and the way it is placed seems like one ^-^
01:19:582 (8,9) - 01:39:082 (4,6) - blanket k
01:26:332 (1) - why are these so fast? break music part, needs to be faster
01:49:957 (1) - same thing about clicking on the end i don't want to overmap
02:00:082 (5,6,7,8) - can you make it look like the smaller diamond? Yup
02:02:332 (1) - holy copypaste lol :^)
02:31:114 (2) - 02:31:864 (5) - i'd overlap this with the one a little bit to show that it's on the blue tick I wanted to make it like that because it is the rapping part
02:47:332 (1) - ok can we at least get something different for the end please lol I'll see-w-

Enkrypton wrote:

General
1 bg is like IRL women while the rest is all anime girls. I mean there is no issue there but i kinda wanted to point that out :((( wjsn are real tho

M I N A K O
00:01:957 (3) - move slider tail left a little so it blankets 00:01:395 (2) - better done
00:14:707 (8,1) - i suggest just overlapping the slider tail with the slider head instead of then just barely touching each other The second slider is made to have the previous slider on it's shape
00:16:207 (3,4,5) - I'd angle this so it looks more like a equilateral triangle Hm.. I'll think about it
make 00:26:145 (4) - copy paste of 00:25:395 (2) - and blanket 00:26:707 (5) - better. then put 00:26:895 (6) - on slider tail of slider 4 for aesthetics mostly it's made to show the beat is a lil beat stronger there
00:27:082 (7,8) - overlap tail and head of sliders completely k
00:35:707 (9) - NC here, change in tone for vocals. same singer, it's just they added a little "haha" here
01:15:270 (4,5) - try to overlap this better, the slider head of 4 overlaps the slider of 5 a little too much comparing to your previous slider overlaps done
01:18:270 (4,5) - ^^^ ^
01:50:520 (2) - move this down a little and a little to the right fixed
02:04:582 (5) - is mapped to a distinct 2 vowel word, maybe make it a slider? it's a star pattern here
Thank you for modding ~

code
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Creator:Sidetail
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Nuolong

Troll wrote:

[Nuolong]

some of your 1/2 sliders go in pretty awkward directions so it makes the jumps flow (i hate using this word) kinda weird
difficulty settings are perfect

00:30:457 (1,1) - not sure how i feel about this 1/4 jump but it's playable so it's ok playable? ok so no issue :3
00:42:645 (9,10) - can we get rid of the 10 or make this into a slider? otherwise I'd see this as a 7-note stream starting on the 9 when it's really a 5-note starting on the down beat ok I didn't agree with your point but I listened closely to the rhythm and decided to just make it a 5 note stream,
altering the jumps with it

00:48:832 (1) - i like the use of longer sliders to make this section seem lower in intensity, but i'd like it even more if the sv and spacing were lowered as well imo it's weird to make the prechorus/buildup like that, especially if I'm going to be spamming jumps right before the start the kiai. going from low sv + spacing to sudden big jumps is really weird
00:59:145 (8) - i'd change this to a single note to distinguish it good point, fixed it to be like this before the first two kiais
01:08:332 (1) - rotate this shape 180 lol no, that is really ugly flow and does not look nice. i would consider more if you had a justification,
but it doesn't look nice imo so i won't change it :/

01:11:989 (4,5) - put another note on 1 here to emphasize the vocal like you did in the last kiai yup fixed!
02:02:332 (1) - ok copy pasting on the hard diff is understandable but please why same chorus calls for same mapping. I only copy/pasted the first two kiais and did the third from scratch again. Aka, I'm too lazy 8-) Why is it understandable for insane and not for this? :(
Thank you for modding~ it was pretty helpful :) I'm just stingy sometimes~

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Tae
[Coppertine]
  1. Why is the majority of this difficulty just 1-2 jump spam, you could do so much better with the rhythms tbh... kiai especially... Please review a lot of your rhythm choices so they reflect the song more. // I personally feel this will help very much in aiding your rhythm choices.
  2. Chill with the blankets. There's a time and place for everything, but I don't think the extent you've used them is appropriate.
  3. A lot of your SV changes aren't justified. I'll point out a few in particular, but for the most part, don't change the SV for vocals, as the song won't be changing in intensity, which is what these changes should reflect.
  1. 00:14:332 (1,1) - Are you mapping the vocals here? Tbh, it sounds much better as 1/2 sliders. Shorten each by 1/4 please, as it doesn't really fit the song otherwise. (The first one is actually 1/4, but with the instrument immediately after it, it makes more sense to include that)
  2. 00:19:582 (1) - Stack this? The other two objects are.
  3. 00:20:895 (1,2,3,1,2) - Why does this not have the same rhythm as 00:19:582 - when they're the same sounds
  4. 00:21:457 (1,2) - Switch NCs here and 00:23:145 (1,2) - here, as they're the more important sounds.
  5. There are no sounds on 00:22:207 - or 00:23:707 - , consider revising your jump patterns to make this flow better. Do not say that you want to make a consistent jump pattern. You can't justify it when there's no sound for you to map on.
  6. 00:24:832 - , 00:25:395 - , 00:26:145 - shouldn't these all be 1/4 shorter?
  7. 00:27:082 - Aesthetics?
  8. 00:27:457 (6) - Half of this is mapped to nothing, and yet you insist on not doing this sort of thing for the majority of the diff. Please be consistent in your ideas.
  9. 00:36:082 - This should be a slider, probably, in order to improve flow between the jumps and the next object.
  10. 00:37:582 (5) - This should have a repeat, as you only map half the vocal currently. As for the pattern, I'm not particularly fond of it.
  11. 00:40:020 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider? Same at 00:41:520 -
  12. 00:47:895 - What's with the SV changes here? They don't make much sense.
  13. 00:54:832 - This section could be improved to give more a buildup. You miss notes, for example, such as 00:57:270 -
  14. Also with this section, why do you suddenly ditch the geometric side to your jumps, most noticeably at 00:57:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) -
  15. 00:59:707 (1,1,1) - The vocals decrease in volume here, should your sliders not reflect this?
  16. 01:00:832 (1) - The vocals should probably be mapped here, so consider revising your rhythm choice as this isn't consistent with the other 3 notes before it.
  17. 01:07:582 (2,1) - As nice as this looks, it's not very practical, you should probably fix this, perhaps by not making the two objects touch.
  18. 01:10:395 (1,2) - You then break consistency with the above pattern here, why is that?
  19. 01:12:457 (1) - 1/2 slider? Would fit the vocal more.
  20. 01:13:582 (1,2,3) - Why? It's really not practical in any form.
  21. 01:22:770 (5) - Stack with 3?
  22. 01:26:332 (1) - Stack? Also, this is one of the sections where you should change SV... but you don't.
  23. 01:31:301 (1,2) - This doesn't look good.
  24. 01:37:395 (1,1) - These should not be touching, it really doesn't look aesthetic. Especially with how they're angled differently. As a matter of fact, that should be fixed too.
  25. Why are 01:39:457 (1) - and 01:40:957 (4) - not consistent, they're the same sound.
As it's the same issues coming up again and again, I'll stop for now.

For the most part, you need to properly justify your SV changes and breaks in consistency, otherwise please fix them accordingly. As for your rhythms, have a look at the other difficulties and take some inspiration, I'm sure it'll help with your own!

Good luck with your map friend

(I picked up what I saw at first glance, so I may have repeated a few things that have already been mentioned... make sure to give them a good look though)
Topic Starter
Sidetail
Didn't expect Tae mod, thanks a lot!
Tae

Sidetail wrote:

Didn't expect Tae mod, thanks a lot!
Nobody expects a mod from me tbh, I kinda spontaneously do it.

For the record Coppertine, this mod has nothing to do with the recent comments made between the two of us, I'm just helping make sure you know entirely what you're doing, and to help improve your mapping in the process, with the goal being to improve the general quality of this mapset. Your difficulty was just the first to look at.

I hope you can see this from an objective viewpoint, as I have tried to do.

I'll most likely come back to this map another time and take a look at the other diffs btw, if it's not loved at that point.
Xelite

Troll wrote:

[Xelite]

jumps seem a bit arbitrary and there just for the sake of making it "hard". put more thought into it
considering the difficulty of this map, i think you could lower the AR a bit to 9 and HP and OD as well but that's just me
i'll put AR 9.3, as for OD, the most 5 star maps have OD 8, in my diff there 7, so i dont think i really need make that lower lol

00:06:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - not really comfortable having this stream here but it's fine for now i guess? i dont see any problems there
00:09:457 (4) - make this look like 3, with the same curve fixed
00:09:832 (1,2,1,2) - these sliders are kinda digging into each other, if you make it a bit straighter it would look better i think that pattern fits music
00:17:707 (2,3) - this 1/4 jump is ridiculously awkward and unjustified. move it a bit closer fixed
00:21:082 (3) - would prefer something clickable on the end of this slider this slider is pretty symmetrical with 00:19:957 (1). Also i dont see any sound for something clickable, adding that 00:21:082 have sound for slider
00:22:395 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - use rotate 180 to make this look not as random that part is symmetrical with the 00:23:895 (3,4,5,6,7) except one circle
00:24:832 (1) - this really belongs on the other (left, bottom) side tbh fixed
00:29:520 (2,3,4,5) - the hell is this shape? fixed shape and flow
00:32:332 (1,2,3,4) - i like this thx :)
00:44:332 - missing a note yes, you right but there i make this for separating parts before and after
00:46:770 (5) - if it were me i'd put 2 more notes after this to make this a triple fixed
01:02:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ...... lol i fixed some parts there
01:05:145 (1) - the middle note in this slider should be a down beat. what you could do is turn this into a circle + slider fixed
01:50:707 (1) - if you're going to start going off beats here, you should put something on the first down beat at least: 01:50:332 added a slider
02:39:082 (1) - put a break after this. no need to drain hp here fixed
02:49:957 (1) - need a down beat at the end of this fixed
02:57:457 (7) - make this angled for consistency fixed
03:00:270 (1,2,1) - bad spacing sound here not need big jumps but i make it a bit farther
Thanks for modding :)
Topic Starter
Sidetail
Updated.
Topic Starter
Sidetail
Reply to Tae mod from Coppertine:

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Coppertine wrote:

Why is the majority of this difficulty just 1-2 jump spam, you could do so much better with the rhythms tbh... kiai especially... Please review a lot of your rhythm choices so they reflect the song more. // I personally feel this will help very much in aiding your rhythm choices. - As I said in my prev mod, I am not a favourite of inconsistent rhythms and when I see one, I just fill it. Plus if I do change most of the 1-2 jump spam, that would mean that I would have to remap the whole diff.
Chill with the blankets. There's a time and place for everything, but I don't think the extent you've used them is appropriate. - Okay, taken note of that.
A lot of your SV changes aren't justified. I'll point out a few in particular, but for the most part, don't change the SV for vocals, as the song won't be changing in intensity, which is what these changes should reflect. - isnt the vocal's pitch what dictates the intensity? I do use that as I cant really see and intensity change throughout the whole song.

00:14:332 (1,1) - Are you mapping the vocals here? - Yes, I am...
Tbh, it sounds much better as 1/2 sliders. Shorten each by 1/4 please, as it doesn't really fit the song otherwise. (The first one is actually 1/4, but with the instrument immediately after it, it makes more sense to include that) - I want to use the sliders for the sense of 1/4 gap taps between eachother, it wont make sense if they are 1/2
00:19:582 (1) - Stack this? The other two objects are. - Fixed
00:20:895 (1,2,3,1,2) - Why does this not have the same rhythm as 00:19:582 - when they're the same sounds - there is a clap at 00:21:270 (3)..
00:21:457 (1,2) - Switch NCs here - 1/4 gap, need to tell players that and not tell them it's like a 1/2 gap
and 00:23:145 (1,2) - here, as they're the more important sounds. - Fixed
There are no sounds on 00:22:207 - There is a clap sound
or 00:23:707 - , consider revising your jump patterns to make this flow better. Do not say that you want to make a consistent jump pattern. You can't justify it when there's no sound for you to map on. - Another clap sound
00:24:832 - , 00:25:395 - , 00:26:145 - shouldn't these all be 1/4 shorter? - 1/4 gap, need to tell players that and not tell them it's like a 1/2 gap
00:27:082 - Aesthetics? - Can say that....
00:27:457 (6) - Half of this is mapped to nothing, and yet you insist on not doing this sort of thing for the majority of the diff. Please be consistent in your ideas. - It's just an easier way for the 1/4 gap to another slider and I know it does not link to the sound, it's just to link to the less important sounds, which can also be a silent too if possible. (I think...)
00:36:082 - This should be a slider, probably, in order to improve flow between the jumps and the next object. - Fixed
00:37:582 (5) - This should have a repeat, as you only map half the vocal currently. As for the pattern, I'm not particularly fond of it. - I never knew, I thought that the vocal would finish after the 1/8... huh... Changed to 1/4
00:40:020 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider? Same at 00:41:520 - Transitions of 1/4 to another object...
00:47:895 - What's with the SV changes here? They don't make much sense. - I wanted to make a slider that looked like it was slow but finished earlier.. so I was stuck with a 2x
00:54:832 - This section could be improved to give more a buildup. You miss notes, for example, such as 00:57:270 - I am actually using the same rhythm as uwu...
Also with this section, why do you suddenly ditch the geometric side to your jumps, most noticeably at 00:57:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - I don't want to make it THAT difficult.
00:59:707 (1,1,1) - The vocals decrease in volume here, should your sliders not reflect this? - I can't really change the sv too much without the player missing because of a crossscreen jump
01:00:832 (1) - The vocals should probably be mapped here, so consider revising your rhythm choice as this isn't consistent with the other 3 notes before it. - Using the woosh sound as the slow slider..
01:07:582 (2,1) - As nice as this looks, it's not very practical, you should probably fix this, perhaps by not making the two objects touch. - This is a loved sooo why not?
01:10:395 (1,2) - You then break consistency with the above pattern here, why is that? - The slider sv.. but fixed
01:12:457 (1) - 1/2 slider? Would fit the vocal more. - Following the drums
01:13:582 (1,2,3) - Why? It's really not practical in any form. - Just dumed down the spacing
01:22:770 (5) - Stack with 3? - [coilor=green]Fixed[/color]
01:26:332 (1) - Stack? Also, this is one of the sections where you should change SV... but you don't. - I wanted to... but, the illusion of the 3/4 slider makes it look slower
01:31:301 (1,2) - This doesn't look good. - I know.. But I don't know how to fix it... :(
01:37:395 (1,1) - These should not be touching, it really doesn't look aesthetic. Especially with how they're angled differently. As a matter of fact, that should be fixed too. - Fixed the Angles, but I don't think they are touching at all...
Why are 01:39:457 (1) - and 01:40:957 (4) - not consistent, they're the same sound.
- the 40 one has the same type of sound from 01:40:582 (3)...
As it's the same issues coming up again and again, I'll stop for now.
Thanks for Modding my diff!! :)

For the most part, you need to properly justify your SV changes and breaks in consistency, otherwise please fix them accordingly. As for your rhythms, have a look at the other difficulties and take some inspiration, I'm sure it'll help with your own! - I did use uwu most of the time.... :thinkong:

Good luck with your map friend - Thx :)

(I picked up what I saw at first glance, so I may have repeated a few things that have already been mentioned... make sure to give them a good look though)

Updated.
Tae

Sidetail wrote:

Reply to Tae mod from Coppertine:

Coppertine wrote:

Why is the majority of this difficulty just 1-2 jump spam, you could do so much better with the rhythms tbh... kiai especially... Please review a lot of your rhythm choices so they reflect the song more. // I personally feel this will help very much in aiding your rhythm choices. - As I said in my prev mod, I am not a favourite of inconsistent rhythms and when I see one, I just fill it. Plus if I do change most of the 1-2 jump spam, that would mean that I would have to remap the whole diff.
Updated.
Nothing is stopping you from remapping it, to be honest. If the difficulty is flawed, arguing that just because it'll be loved doesn't make it okay.

You're not gonna map it perfectly the first time, so don't worry if you need to remap certain things.

As for my point about the volumes, that doesn't relate to sv at all. It also helps to map the most prominent point of a song, for a newer mapper, at least.
Topic Starter
Sidetail
@Coppertine

Feel free to remap parts that you think needs work. In the end, your diff will be played by players and why not improve them while you can xD

If you're satisfied with current version, then I am fine with that too.

Cheers.
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