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OzzyOzrock
Err, so there will be two taikos I see.

Even though I am no match for climbb orz
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
@OzzyOzrock: you could still make your diff but i won't recommend you to do that... it takes so long so i decided to find climbb for a taiko diff, but i don't really want 2 taiko diffs in this set (maybe i'll have 5 osu diffs maybe not)
val0108
i fogot sp!!

:) :) :)
Dotsu
做完啦~

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Download: Hatsune Miku - Unhappy Refrain (NatsumeRin) [Easy].osu

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120W 1.98星 :D
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
老许威武霸气
winber1
I'm kinda lenient with that 10 minute rule. If it's over 1 minute, it's fine. anything over that, then I'm too lazy lol. So i modded easy to for you :3

General

--The lead-in seems a little long imo. oh well. i hate waiting lol >_>

Rin

--I always find your maps fun to play :3, but i still get a little annoyed with certain overlaps >_>, like these:
00:58:631 (5,7,8) - i kinda read combo 7 as a 1/1 tick slider, or something else.. sometimes. gah.
Or this 01:08:875 (6) - where i just think this slider is just one note D:
(actually, those are the only two places where i messed up reading the notes... everything else i read fine, or maybe i just suck)

00:29:363 (2,3) - I would rather not stack these notes
01:30:680 (1) - sounds better imo if you end this slider at 01:30:826. it just feels better to me since it follows that melody more. idk, just an opinion tho. edit: or maybe it was just because i played it one time so far... hmm idk anymore.
01:31:851 (1) - ^?
03:17:509 (1) - ohhh, pretty colors :3

Awesome map :3

Normal


--why not red and gold at the end? and why is the gold color in a different spot than before? D:
--Kinda a huge gap between normal and Rin.. :/ are you making another diff in between?

00:46:778 (x) - i kinda want to add a note here :/
01:30:095 (1,2,3) - i usually don't like using this type of spacing in easy/normal diffs :(
01:33:022 (x) - add note?
02:21:607 (x) - ^

Easy

00:19:997 (6) - something about this note i just really uncomfortable putting in an Easy diff.. idk
you could just make combo 5 and 6 one slider if you want..

02:19:558 (1) - sounds a little awkward imo. maybe somthing like this?:

Awesome map!

Extra Star~~~ :3

Edit: actually, now that i've played a few times, i read Rin completely fine now lol.
OzzyOzrock

NatsumeRin wrote:

@OzzyOzrock: you could still make your diff but i won't recommend you to do that... it takes so long so i decided to find climbb for a taiko diff, but i don't really want 2 taiko diffs in this set (maybe i'll have 5 osu diffs maybe not)
I could've made it in a few hours, but I mixed forgetting with procrastinating because of the fact you said it mihgt take a long time for you to finish lol. But it doesn't matter, climbb is pro. I can take my time now making one for fun or something~
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

OzzyOzrock wrote:

NatsumeRin wrote:

@OzzyOzrock: you could still make your diff but i won't recommend you to do that... it takes so long so i decided to find climbb for a taiko diff, but i don't really want 2 taiko diffs in this set (maybe i'll have 5 osu diffs maybe not)
I could've made it in a few hours, but I mixed forgetting with procrastinating because of the fact you said it mihgt take a long time for you to finish lol. But it doesn't matter, climbb is pro. I can take my time now making one for fun or something~
yeah...that's my fault orz. next time i'll try to make it clear, sorry for inconvenient.

@winber1: thanks for mod and star, my laptop just got broke several hours ago, i had to check the mo after i get it repaired. i'll reply when i could get to it.
Waryas
Best wowaka album right here.
NINE1328_old
神曲 star~ :)
Reisyth
:)
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

winber1 wrote:

I'm kinda lenient with that 10 minute rule. If it's over 1 minute, it's fine. anything over that, then I'm too lazy lol. So i modded easy to for you :3

General

--The lead-in seems a little long imo. oh well. i hate waiting lol >_>

Rin

--I always find your maps fun to play :3, but i still get a little annoyed with certain overlaps >_>, like these:
00:58:631 (5,7,8) - i kinda read combo 7 as a 1/1 tick slider, or something else.. sometimes. gah.
Or this 01:08:875 (6) - where i just think this slider is just one note D:
(actually, those are the only two places where i messed up reading the notes... everything else i read fine, or maybe i just suck) emm... i can't find the reason behind this... just keep it there now

00:29:363 (2,3) - I would rather not stack these notes i guess you're right. changed.
01:30:680 (1) - sounds better imo if you end this slider at 01:30:826. it just feels better to me since it follows that melody more. idk, just an opinion tho. edit: or maybe it was just because i played it one time so far... hmm idk anymore. no. this slider is to show an echo sound of 01:30:095 (1,2,3,4,5) (like lyric), so it should be the same length.
01:31:851 (1) - ^? ^
03:17:509 (1) - ohhh, pretty colors :3 thanks

Awesome map :3

Normal


--why not red and gold at the end? and why is the gold color in a different spot than before? D: changed the first thing (a small mistake by me.), for the 2nd one, the beat can't be the same with Rin diff so i have to put it there.
--Kinda a huge gap between normal and Rin.. :/ are you making another diff in between? yeah so it's why the map is still in WIP

00:46:778 (x) - i kinda want to add a note here :/ too harsh for Normal..? ehh i mean such a 3-star Normal
01:30:095 (1,2,3) - i usually don't like using this type of spacing in easy/normal diffs :( ... 3 beats between the notes (means you'll only see the next notes when the one before is gone completely.
01:33:022 (x) - add note? nice idea.
02:21:607 (x) - ^ no.

Easy

00:19:997 (6) - something about this note i just really uncomfortable putting in an Easy diff.. idk
you could just make combo 5 and 6 one slider if you want.. nice.

02:19:558 (1) - sounds a little awkward imo. maybe somthing like this?: emm no.
SPOILER
[attachment=0:56a49]screenshot076.jpg[/attachment:56a49]

Awesome map!

Extra Star~~~ :3

Edit: actually, now that i've played a few times, i read Rin completely fine now lol.
marshallracer
requested mod

[Impossiblexu's Easy]
Everything seems fine to me

[Normal]
same

[Taiko]
the beginning seems monotonous to me, but ehh, i can't play it anyway ^^

[Rin]
01:38:436 (6) - i can't help myself out, but this slider doesn't look good in there


awkward Rin diff. as always, map is imo in near perfection, Star :3
Kanon
stress.
用中文了。

Easy
S和N都有用到,但是C1 都是Sliderslide静音的,也就是Sliderslide的声音时有时无,会不会比较奇怪?
03:41:436 这里音量降到10%怎么样?因为之前都是转盘声音很吵,突然停下来比较符合歌的意境
其他都很好,我也学到一些怎么做Easy了>.>

Normal
01:32:436 (3,4,5,6) - 这段一个来回拉条带过感觉有点浪费了 不如做成 http://puu.sh/31EQ
02:25:265 (6) - 从前一段白线开始做个短拉条更符合歌词?
02:27:607 (2) - ^
02:29:948 (5) - ^

Taiko没玩过所以╮(╯_╰)╭

Rin
招牌难度了是么>.>
00:41:070 (10) - 删掉或者和00:41:217 (1,2,3) - 同样的spacing,不然玩起来十分诡异。
01:32:729 (1,2,3,4) - 这里是摆歪了还是故意的?
一如既往的Chaos style,很有感觉。

抱歉因为这歌很吵,并且HITSOUND 是SOFT的 ,所以没办法仔细MOD HITSOUND了。

最后吐槽2句
可惜皮肤不能像SB一样改,不然最后变彩色的时候300,100之类的也变彩色就好了
VIDEO是中文,老外可以接受么?

Star for rin sensai :)
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Kanon wrote:

stress.
用中文了。

Easy
S和N都有用到,但是C1 都是Sliderslide静音的,也就是Sliderslide的声音时有时无,会不会比较奇怪? 我给的hitsounds都是slider静音,但因为这里用了很多的默认soft-finish,这些地方是无法消掉slider音的。这个问题恐怕难以避免
03:41:436 这里音量降到10%怎么样?因为之前都是转盘声音很吵,突然停下来比较符合歌的意境 改的30%,这样回音时候还基本能听到音。
其他都很好,我也学到一些怎么做Easy了>.>

Normal
01:32:436 (3,4,5,6) - 这段一个来回拉条带过感觉有点浪费了 不如做成 http://puu.sh/31EQ 对这个normal显的太难了,我连1/2都没有……
02:25:265 (6) - 从前一段白线开始做个短拉条更符合歌词? 和上面同考虑,这个难度之前往简单了做的,为了保持整体性现在这样我不希望再给出1/2的短节奏
02:27:607 (2) - ^ ^
02:29:948 (5) - ^ ^

Taiko没玩过所以╮(╯_╰)╭

Rin
招牌难度了是么>.>
00:41:070 (10) - 删掉或者和00:41:217 (1,2,3) - 同样的spacing,不然玩起来十分诡异。为了后面连续音高的三个音成一排,和这个音独立的更自然所以加了spacing 00:45:753 (9,1) - 这里也是同理。
01:32:729 (1,2,3,4) - 这里是摆歪了还是故意的?打时就正了。
一如既往的Chaos style,很有感觉。

抱歉因为这歌很吵,并且HITSOUND 是SOFT的 ,所以没办法仔细MOD HITSOUND了。没事我自己都快听不出了

最后吐槽2句
可惜皮肤不能像SB一样改,不然最后变彩色的时候300,100之类的也变彩色就好了 这个可能保不住
VIDEO是中文,老外可以接受么?如果日文能接受,那么我觉得中文也能的,233

Star for rin sensai :)
spboxer3
吐嘈一下~為什麼影片文字是繁體中文0.0
[Climbb's Taiko Oni]
00:20:144 (41) - 大紅如何?
03:18:241 (484,486,488,491) - 都改成大的如何

[Rin]
02:49:412 (5) - 這個是故意的嗎?


Rin的獵奇風格又出現了lol
神mapper
我找不到其他可以改進的地方._.
所以只好射顆大星啦XD
OzzyOzrock
mod4mod T.T stress

[General]
You're gonna convert the video from .flv to .avi right? Unless it's fine?

Great color-haxing :3
[Easy]
Everything looks good.

[Normal]
All good here as well.

[Taiko]
- Please make the volume 100%. Where it is now it's hard to hear the sounds, and thus hard to keep rhythm.

But it all seems perfect.
[Rin]
Perfectly Rin style~


Forgot to mention that there must be a loop-de-loop slider at 02:17:217 in all standard diffs. lol just kidding

anyways, PV scares me, star~
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

spboxer3 wrote:

吐嘈一下~為什麼影片文字是繁體中文0.0 不知道,作者和我一样,是中国大陆北京市海淀区人。
[Climbb's Taiko Oni]
00:20:144 (41) - 大紅如何?
03:18:241 (484,486,488,491) - 都改成大的如何 这个给climbb决定吧,我觉得如果要这么样,后面也要改一改

[Rin]
02:49:412 (5) - 這個是故意的嗎? 可以听到有一个三分音的鼓


Rin的獵奇風格又出現了lol
神mapper
我找不到其他可以改進的地方._.
所以只好射顆大星啦XD

OzzyOzrock wrote:

mod4mod T.T stress

[General]
You're gonna convert the video from .flv to .avi right? Unless it's fine? .flv for video is fine, and for most of the time it's better than .avi

Great color-haxing :3
[Easy]
Everything looks good.

[Normal]
All good here as well.

[Taiko]
- Please make the volume 100%. Where it is now it's hard to hear the sounds, and thus hard to keep rhythm. it sounds really clear to me
100% is just noisy, 60% sounds perfect to me. maybe i'm a little sensitive, adjust to 70% anyway.

But it all seems perfect.
[Rin]
Perfectly Rin style~


Forgot to mention that there must be a loop-de-loop slider at 02:17:217 in all standard diffs. lol just kidding

anyways, PV scares me, star~
Aleks719
Impossiblexu's Easy
Set slider tickrate 1 like in other diffs
03:41:656 - make spinner 1/2 longer (2 hardest diffs have end at 03:36:826, I guess you can make end of diff in this point too), replace timing point from 03:41:509 too.
00:10:631 - why you use 0.8x before this slider and 0.9x after? Make 0.9x constantly
01:35:070 - okay, 1.0x in kiai, 0.9x in non-kiai... But 0.8x must be fixed.
03:27:461 (1) - 1.1x... >< Don't like this play with distance

Normal
[T] 03:36:826 - Turn off your kiai here, like in other diffs
03:41:656 - add a note or make slider instead of 2 notes (2 hardest diffs have end at 03:36:826, I guess you can make end of diff in this point too)

Climbb's Taiko Oni
This diff starts later than others, no need in audio lead-in here, set it 0ms
03:19:401 (488) - unsnapped object

Rin
I don't like 4 different speeds of sliders in this diff. I know, you won't fix it, but i must to say it ;)
01:08:290 (4,5,6,7) - hard too read for the 1st time, maybe set another direction of (6) ?
01:45:314 (5,6,7) - notes set unnaturally (Against the motion of cursor). make (6) with x:280 , y:288. Imo, it'll plays better
02:57:168 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - ugly stack :3 I prefer some stacks with 3-4 notes or antijumps
03:13:558 (2,3,4) - make a distance a bit lower here (3) : x:360, y:192 , imo, plays better (1st jump in this combo was a bit unexpecting)
Elza_Scarlet
st a r
Shinki
star X)
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Aleks719 wrote:

Impossiblexu's Easy
Set slider tickrate 1 like in other diffs true.
03:41:656 - make spinner 1/2 longer (2 hardest diffs have end at 03:36:826, I guess you can make end of diff in this point too), replace timing point from 03:41:509 too. i don't agree this... sorry
00:10:631 - why you use 0.8x before this slider and 0.9x after? Make 0.9x constantly because of hitsounds change.
01:35:070 - okay, 1.0x in kiai, 0.9x in non-kiai... But 0.8x must be fixed. why. do you really care it's 0.8x or 0.9x when playing.
03:27:461 (1) - 1.1x... >< Don't like this play with distance impossiblexu has his thoughts about spacing change, i just tried to explain it... well.

Normal
[T] 03:36:826 - Turn off your kiai here, like in other diffs i forgot this.
03:41:656 - add a note or make slider instead of 2 notes (2 hardest diffs have end at 03:36:826, I guess you can make end of diff in this point too) no.

Climbb's Taiko Oni
This diff starts later than others, no need in audio lead-in here, set it 0ms yes.
03:19:401 (488) - unsnapped object 0 0 my bad.


Rin
I don't like 4 different speeds of sliders in this diff. I know, you won't fix it, but i must to say it ;) ok it's up to you, and you know that i won't change.
01:08:290 (4,5,6,7) - hard too read for the 1st time, maybe set another direction of (6) ? no. this is the direction the flow should be, according to the group of sliders before.
01:45:314 (5,6,7) - notes set unnaturally (Against the motion of cursor). make (6) with x:280 , y:288. Imo, it'll plays better you have your point here. but what i want is 01:45:900 (8) - to cover 01:44:436 (1,4)
02:57:168 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - ugly stack :3 I prefer some stacks with 3-4 notes or antijumps how could you call that ugly. turn video on ww
03:13:558 (2,3,4) - make a distance a bit lower here (3) : x:360, y:192 , imo, plays better (1st jump in this combo was a bit unexpecting) ehh not really, for slider-circle notes, the spacing is much more flexible than circle-circle.
kurohana
soo, here is my mod :D
thanks for allowing me to mod your map ~(^.^)~

[General]
combo colours are very good ^^ i like this at first grey and later red and green ^^

[impossiblexu's Easy]
00:10:485 (3,1) maybe a bit hard for beginners?

[Normal]
02:57:095 (spinner) maybe start at 02:57:168?

[Rin]
more than 3 different slider speeds...
00:19:851 (1) a bit confusing

i really like [Rin], so much fun to play >////<
good luck and star~~~
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

kurohana wrote:

soo, here is my mod :D
thanks for allowing me to mod your map ~(^.^)~

[General]
combo colours are very good ^^ i like this at first grey and later red and green ^^

[impossiblexu's Easy]
00:10:485 (3,1) maybe a bit hard for beginners? this is probably a mistake made by me, i don't know when... thanks for pointing it out anyway.

[Normal]
02:57:095 (spinner) maybe start at 02:57:168? no. i'd like it to start as soon as possible

[Rin]
more than 3 different slider speeds... won't change.
00:19:851 (1) a bit confusing it's a slider so more flexible than common way =w=

i really like [Rin], so much fun to play >////<
good luck and star~~~
tutuhaha
加油加油加油大爱此歌RIN老师GJ~!
start~ :) XD
KingKrishna
I couldnt find to many problems so Star :D



and On Rin
01:36:534- straiten up that slider ?

nice song :D and good map
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
@mebins: no.
kanpakyin
Is it finish yet?
Time to move to pending! 8-)
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
@kanpakyin: wait for Garven's Hard and Dis diff.
Thite
:oops:
HopaOoo
nice map
Garven
Hooray for inconsistent hit sounding. Oh well. The MP3 is so damned loud that you can hardly hear them anyway.

Hope you enjoy~

Download: Hatsune Miku - Unhappy Refrain (NatsumeRin) [Garven's Hard].osu
Kiiwa
:)
TKiller
Insane just asks for more Normal sampleset usage. The lack of it also makes it very sudden when you use Normal set for streams.

That part where you change the combo colours is great, but I think it could be cooler if you accented it with some different hitsounds too.
Waryas
gogogogogogo
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

TKiller wrote:

Insane just asks for more Normal sampleset usage. The lack of it also makes it very sudden when you use Normal set for streams.

That part where you change the combo colours is great, but I think it could be cooler if you accented it with some different hitsounds too.
the main reason of using lots of soft hitsounds is i'm mainly follow the vocal (also part of personal preference), i admit when i change to normal set for streams it sounds a little sudden. but as i see this song is not fit for "normal-soft barcode" technique, also i already tried sth to reduce score, so there won't be enough beats for me to show a fully set of hitsounds, i have to give out a choice and... yeah i chose soft.

changed some hitsounds after color change. hope it's better now.
Sure
Hi NatsumeRin.

I don't know why you still use hit-burst skin that impossible to distinguish between general combo and the last(Geki and Katu) combo.
If you don't have any special reason, I suggest change them.

For example,
hit100k - 100! or 100'
hit300k - 300! or 300'
hit300g - 300!! or 300"
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
@ykcarrot: not a really good reason here, but this is not a big deal either. the main reason is i use this set of skin for long and for all maps of wowaka series. compared to use 300k/100k for distinguish the last combo, i'd rather to keep consistency of this serie (anyway this is probably the last map for this serie for a long time)
artpiggo
Garven's Hard

AR +1 ?
HP Drain +2 ?
01:45:607 (6) - Make in this pattern ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/107833
03:41:363 (1,2,3) - IMO, these shouldn't in stack, maybe put them like in Rin Diff ?

Impossiblexu's easy

03:16:924 (1) - add clap ?

others are perfect for me.

wish it ranked in soon. :3
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

artpiggo wrote:

Impossiblexu's easy

03:16:924 (1) - add clap ? sounds a little too heavy...= =||| no.
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