nano - DREAMCATCHER (TV Size) [Taiko|Osu] · forum

Senko-san

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-03-10T08:36:56+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q

[mahou]
00:13:764 (1,2) - Distance is same with 00:13:264 (3,1) - ?> looks hard to read Yeah I could see how it could be misread. Changed.
00:41:264 (3,4) - HArd to read this 1/3. reduce DS for better reading I don't think reducing the DS is going to change the readability
00:48:597 (1,3) - you don't need to overlap since you didn't overlap well. Tried to make the overlap look a little better
00:50:764 (4,5,1) - flow looks awkward. Reworked a little, but it plays fine imo
Nothing to sy, but totally I couldn't understand your intentions. I don't understand what you're talking about with this. I wasn't trying to map specifically or have a theme, i just map.

Rad-

595 posts

Joined June 2011

Rad- 2017-03-11T19:43:19+00:00

Hello! From my queue.

General:
Make sure to disable widescreen support on all diffiiculties

Crowie's Easy

00:56:597 (1) - Remove NC for consistency
01:01:931 (1) - This one can stay as the song changes a bit
01:17:931 (1) - Remove NC
01:24:597 (1) - Remove NC

Normal

00:41:764 (3) - Not sure if this stack on a normal is allowed, though i cannot confirm.
01:03:931 (3) - Make this slider straight just like slider 2, or make both curvy, so it gives the pattern overall better shape

Advanced

00:01:764 (3) - I recommend ending this slider on 00:02:597 - ,fits best to the music and becomes less confusing at the start of the map
00:07:097 (3) - ^
00:46:931 (4,1,2) - This type of spacing can get really confusing to play, specially on such a low difficulty, its more the fact that its a transition from short slider to 2 circle single taps that make it weird to play for alot of people at this skill level, if it was only only single tap next after a short slider would be ok
Also i suggest reducing the overall spacing from 1.5x to 1.3x, as it gets pretty jumpy for such short slow sliders, that plus the fact that the map also has low spaced single taps makes it a bit awkward to play.
00:46:931 (4,1,2) - It's parts like these that what i mentioned before would be fixed
01:03:931 (1) - Remove NC, it would have been ok if it at least changed slider speed

Hard

00:43:264 (1,2) - Please fix this spacing, its very inconsistent, you could just stack on top of each other
00:45:931 (1,2) - distance these 2 to look more like they are seperated in rhythm, with this distance it looks like it went from blue tick to red tick
01:04:597 (1,2) - same as before
There are parts on Hard (mostly on kiai time) that could have better spacing to be more consistent, like remain on the 1.3x instead of 1.2x, so consider fixing the ones needing this, the short jumps dont really matter

Kocari's Insane

00:27:264 (1,3) - Stack this end of slider properly to slider 1
00:33:931 (1) - Move this circle to a different position so it's not just a stack of 4 objects (stacking on the start of slider 00:33:264 (4) - isn't bad)
00:35:597 (2) - Why not make the triple here like you did previously, so it fits better with the song?
00:36:764 - Another point that should be a triple, for consistency since you mapped triples before
00:50:931 (1,2) - Switch NC between these 2 for consistency
00:58:764 - Add a circle here to fit the kick on the beat?

Hope it helped!

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-03-11T20:03:05+00:00

All No Fix

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 42264
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.7
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:DREAMCATCHER
TitleUnicode:DREAMCATCHER
Artist:nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:Hiicantpk
Version:Kocari's Insane
Source:魔法少女育成計画
Tags:Magical Girl Raising Project Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku ED Ending TV Size Snow White Himekawa Koyuki Kocari Crowie HPK
BeatmapID:1142506
BeatmapSetID:537022

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
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Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-03-11T20:35:00+00:00

Rad- wrote:
Hello! From my queue.

General:
Make sure to disable widescreen support on all diffiiculties

Normal
00:41:764 (3) - Not sure if this stack on a normal is allowed, though i cannot confirm. Better safe than sorry, unstacked
01:03:931 (3) - Make this slider straight just like slider 2, or make both curvy, so it gives the pattern overall better shape Already explained my reasoning for this in Rose Melody's mod.

Advanced
00:01:764 (3) - I recommend ending this slider on 00:02:597 - ,fits best to the music and becomes less confusing at the start of the map The slider is going to the vocal which ends on the red tic, and since this is an advanced diff players should be able to read a 3/2 gap without much effort.
00:07:097 (3) - ^
00:46:931 (4,1,2) - This type of spacing can get really confusing to play, specially on such a low difficulty, its more the fact that its a transition from short slider to 2 circle single taps that make it weird to play for alot of people at this skill level, if it was only only single tap next after a short slider would be ok
Also i suggest reducing the overall spacing from 1.5x to 1.3x, as it gets pretty jumpy for such short slow sliders, that plus the fact that the map also has low spaced single taps makes it a bit awkward to play. I'll get more opinions on this. I think its fine but you bring up valid points.
01:03:931 (1) - Remove NC, it would have been ok if it at least changed slider speed This is an NC for vocal emphasis, its fine.

Hard
00:43:264 (1,2) - Please fix this spacing, its very inconsistent, you could just stack on top of each other Fixed
00:45:931 (1,2) - distance these 2 to look more like they are seperated in rhythm, with this distance it looks like it went from blue tick to red tick Fixed
01:04:597 (1,2) - same as before Fixed
There are parts on Hard (mostly on kiai time) that could have better spacing to be more consistent, like remain on the 1.3x instead of 1.2x, so consider fixing the ones needing this, the short jumps dont really matter

Hope it helped!

Thanks for the mod.

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2017-03-11T21:29:12+00:00

06:01 _Meep_: Yea
06:01 _Meep_: Oh yea,in the hard diff
06:01 *_Meep_ is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1143817 nano - DREAMCATCHER [Hard]]
06:02 _Meep_: You're missing out too many beats on 00:32:597 -
06:02 _Meep_: on the long sliders
06:02 _Meep_: 00:33:264 (4) -
06:02 _Meep_: 00:35:931 (4) -
06:02 _Meep_: You're forsaking too many drum beats just to lower the density
06:03 _Meep_: 00:52:264 (4,1) - Reversing flow like this is really difficult
06:03 _Meep_: for the players
06:03 Hiicantpk: would it flow better if 4 was lower than 3?
06:03 _Meep_: 00:52:264 (4) - move 4 to like 15 136
06:04 _Meep_: 00:53:931 (1) - is this a trend in the song lol
06:04 Hiicantpk: At least that one has a 1/1 gap
06:04 _Meep_: as in the slider shape
06:05 Hiicantpk: oh
06:05 Hiicantpk: yeah
06:05 Hiicantpk: Like i said i kinda went hard on the slider shapes this diff
06:05 _Meep_: because you didn't touch the corners at all
06:05 _Meep_: and 01:01:931 (2) - this is just the same as making diagonal straight sliders = aesthetically bad imo
06:05 Hiicantpk: oh shit
06:06 _Meep_: 01:01:931 (2,3,4) - idk whats with the weird spacing here
06:06 _Meep_: 01:03:931 (1) - Why no stream here when there was before?
06:06 _Meep_: 01:03:264 (1,1) - fix blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7541560
06:07 _Meep_: 01:06:597 (4) - Sharp curves are really hard to deal with because the SV is pretty high, means sliderbreak potential is high
06:07 Hiicantpk: I'll respond to each point when you post this
06:07 _Meep_: I suggest you use a slider trend with less sharp curves
06:07 _Meep_: Sure.
06:07 _Meep_: You can think of how to answer them as i spam them
06:08 _Meep_: 01:06:597 (4) - Missed 2 drum notes
06:08 Hiicantpk: Yeah i can't keep up with answers at this speed
06:08 _Meep_: 01:06:597 (4,1) - fix blanket (added circle so u can see) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7541572
06:09 _Meep_: 01:08:264 (4,1,2) - This flow is practically in a straight line,not too wise for a hard diff,players don't really like moving in straight directions
06:09 _Meep_: 01:09:264 (3) - beats are missing too
06:09 _Meep_: 01:09:764 (4,1) - too far imo
06:10 _Meep_: 01:12:931 (2) - Just make it 2 curves instead of 1,makes me triggered lol
06:11 _Meep_: 01:14:931 - here and 00:53:597 - , both share the same problem,since the drums still continue,however you decided to stop at the 5th note,I suggest you make it a reverse slider at the end to play out the rest of the drums rather than leave it alone
06:11 _Meep_: 01:23:931 (2) - rotate by -20
06:11 _Meep_: 01:23:931 (2,3,1) - too far
06:12 _Meep_: 01:25:097 (2) - Forsaking too many powerful sounds in the background just for the vocals,I don't think this is necessary
06:12 _Meep_: 00:22:097 (2,3) - Hard diff players tend to follow the sliders,so this is going to be hell for them
06:13 _Meep_: 00:20:931 (2) - Move this 2 ticks infront and add a note,fix the pattern afterwards,this allows the player to play the song smoothly without stopping momentum/rhythm
06:13 _Meep_: add a note at its previous place*
06:13 _Meep_: 00:23:764 (3,1) - Using different curves isn't too nice imo,I rather you stick to a consistent one that doesn't change too much,it makes it look a bit messy
06:14 _Meep_: 00:25:264 (4) - move it to 192 196 so you can keep the parallel movement between 00:24:431 (1,2) - and 00:25:097 (3,4) -
06:14 _Meep_: 00:30:597 (4,1) - make them both the same slider.

Kk.

The hard diff is really inconsistent in its spacing, you have to work on that in order for this to be rankable imo. Take for example 00:48:597 (1,2,3) - . 1-2 has lesser DS than 2-3 even though 2 is the powerful clap note. To emphasize claps in hard diffs,I recommend you space it more and use at least 0.2 DS higher than the other notes for a clearer difference.

Flow too is flawed, It feels as if you think that the direction of the slider = the direction of where the cursor will go,which is practically wrong in this case.
Take 00:50:597 (3) - for example. The first curve is fine,the players can follow, however, they won't be able to follow through the second one, and because of slider leniency,they stop midway during the second curve, therefore there won't be any circular flow. In this situation,it would be better to place a note somewhere above the slider, like at 421 98. Flow may be hard to understand for hard diffs, but you gotta try to understand how hard diff players move and stuff. With high SV, there are a lot of considerations you have to take rather than just adding in sliders hoping they will follow it 150%.

Lastly is rhythm. You forsake too many instruments just for the sake of mapping to the vocals, which is not right imo. You should find a connection between the two and try to map them both together, this allows the player to better understand the rhythm while at the same time playing well with the song. This isn't impossible in hard diffs as well. Stuff like 00:49:264 (3) - , you could have mapped it as https://puu.sh/uEylB/6dbce628b9.jpg instead, it plays well to both the instruments and the vocals.

Good luck!

Crowie

osu!artist

328 posts

Joined August 2015

Crowie 2017-03-13T10:45:29+00:00

Rad- wrote:
Crowie's Easy
00:56:597 (1) - Remove NC for consistency done
01:01:931 (1) - This one can stay as the song changes a bit ok
01:17:931 (1) - Remove NCdone
01:24:597 (1) - Remove NC done
!

thanks for modding :3
update

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-04-05T06:31:45+00:00

This is a self-reminder to stop procrastinating and respond to meep's mod

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2017-04-06T14:43:12+00:00

Hiicantpk wrote:
This is a self-reminder to stop procrastinating and respond to meep's mod

This is also a reminder for you to JUST DO IT!

Kaori M

5 posts

Joined July 2016

Kaori M 2017-05-07T21:59:30+00:00

<3

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-07-16T22:14:15+00:00

IM SHLEEP

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-08-23T07:35:48+00:00

Kocari wrote:
IM SHLEEP

REAL SHIT

Gordon

531 posts

Joined January 2016

Gordon 2017-10-04T18:07:56+00:00

My mod queue. #RegretNotFinishingMyEasyForThis #SorryDad

Crowie's

00:21:931 (1,2) - Overlap. Looks funky.

Normal

00:24:431 (1) - Vocal or is it supposed to be on the drumroll?
00:43:264 (1,2) - Maybe a little too fast for normal players?

Advanced

Seems decent

Hard

01:14:597 (7) - NC?

Kocari's

00:18:764 (5,1) - Tad bit of overlap doesn't hinder much though
00:23:097 (6) - NC?
00:36:931 (8) - NC?

GL with the set.

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-10-09T06:41:43+00:00

Xoul wrote:
My mod queue. #RegretNotFinishingMyEasyForThis #SorryDad #ItsOkSon

Normal

00:24:431 (1) - Vocal or is it supposed to be on the drumroll? Vocal, although it skips the less intense vocal note on the blue tic.
00:43:264 (1,2) - Maybe a little too fast for normal players? If its too fast, theres an easier diff they can play

Advanced

Seems decent

Hard

01:14:597 (7) - NC? Not needed. Didnt in first chorus either.

GL with the set. thx

Crowie

osu!artist

328 posts

Joined August 2015

Crowie 2017-10-09T23:23:12+00:00

Xoul wrote:
Crowie's

00:21:931 (1,2) - Overlap. Looks funky. fixed

ay

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aLoNsOxRyu

1 post

Joined February 2013

aLoNsOxRyu 2017-11-10T00:01:24+00:00

I would like you to add the video, it is one of the songs that I can't stop listening to.

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-11-11T14:53:18+00:00

aLoNsOxRyu wrote:
I would like you to add the video, it is one of the songs that I can't stop listening to.

Sorry, but I won't be adding the video to the background. Its cool that you play with low dim and video enabled, but imo its too distracting. Also I don't want to risk copyright stuff by adding it in.

_xyliac

816 posts

Joined February 2016

_xyliac 2017-11-30T04:44:13+00:00

Kocari's Insane

00:05:264 (6,7,8) - this can be stacked with 00:04:931 (5) - to make it much more neater.
Or perhaps you can adjust it a bit to make it look like 00:07:598 (5,6) -

00:09:098 (2) - this can be ctrl + g'd to make it flow more perhaps

00:33:931 (1,2,3,4) - this can be easily misread although it works
out pretty nice to represent the music.

00:42:597 (4) - delete the 3rd anchor to make it curve, just
adjust it to your liking. Just a suggestion though.

00:50:931 (10,1) - this breaks the flow, perhaps
do the same as what you did here? 01:12:264 (10,1) -

01:21:931 (2) - imo it will look better if this is ctrl h'd,
just fix these 01:22:264 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - afterwards. https://i.imgur.com/Lf84jgX.jpg

Hard

00:01:764 (3) - it looks kind of ugly for me, maybe it's just me

00:07:097 (3) - ^ same

00:10:597 (4,5) - this can be a 5x repeating slider since it transitions
to a new part with different rhythm.

00:25:764 (1) - curve this a bit more perhaps because the vocals is
slightly powerful

00:37:931 (1) - make this blanket 00:36:931 (7) - since in lower
difficulties where it's less dense, visuals are a big variable to gameplay.

00:53:597 (10) - perhaps point this to 00:53:931 (1) - ?

01:14:931 (11) - perhaps point this to 01:15:264 (1) - ?

01:24:597 (1,2,3,4,5) - change this rhythm, it didn't really represent
any significant notes in the background (not the vocals nor the drums)
it's kiai as well, don't be sceptical on using a bit denser note structure.
Here's how I'd map it, (drums) https://i.imgur.com/HzwA29p.jpg

Last edited by _xyliac 2017-11-30T05:02:22+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-11-30T06:25:06+00:00

_xyliac wrote:
Hard

00:01:764 (3) - it looks kind of ugly for me, maybe it's just me I like it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

00:07:097 (3) - ^ same

00:10:597 (4,5) - this can be a 5x repeating slider since it transitions to a new part with different rhythm. Don't really like the 5 repeat slider here, but added triplets instead.

00:25:764 (1) - curve this a bit more perhaps because the vocals is slightly powerful Fine as is tbh

00:37:931 (1) - make this blanket 00:36:931 (7) - since in lower difficulties where it's less dense, visuals are a big variable to gameplay. Isn't supposed to blanket

00:53:597 (10) - perhaps point this to 00:53:931 (1) - ? Nah, but made it parallel to 00:54:597 (3) - . was off

01:14:931 (11) - perhaps point this to 01:15:264 (1) - ? Fine as is tbh

01:24:597 (1,2,3,4,5) - change this rhythm, it didn't really represent Changed, but putting 1/3 sliders here at the end of the map without using any 1/3 previously could really throw off people playing this difficulty.
any significant notes in the background (not the vocals nor the drums)
it's kiai as well, don't be sceptical on using a bit denser note structure.
Here's how I'd map it, (drums) https://i.imgur.com/HzwA29p.jpg

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-12-04T18:09:10+00:00

m4m btw

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/700682

[winnie]
00:18:264 (4,5) - fix

00:32:597 (1) - this feels terrible here cuz the red tick is super super obvious. put something on it.

00:37:931 (1,2) - i dont really get why the density drops so much here. why not just repeat 00:35:264 (1,2) - this rhythm, it works well...

00:41:264 (1,2,3) - circles plz

00:48:597 (1,2) - 1/1 would be nicer to show the held out vocal

00:53:847 (8,1) - u never have 1/4 jump anywhere else, this is pretty awkward to just stick it in here randomly

01:04:514 (8,1) - yea

01:12:597 (1,2) - this looks pretty weird and puts no emphasis on 2 cuz u can just sit on the repeat slider anyway. move 2 away plz

[hard]
00:33:764 (5) - this white tick is way too strong to ignore like this, the song basically repeats 00:32:597 (1,2,3) - this rhythm there so reflecting that is nicer imo

00:36:431 (5) - same

00:41:764 (1) - circle + slider fits a lot better too. u dont need to ignore all these drum beats, the vocal focus isn't that important

01:03:264 (1) - same here. circle+1/1

and 01:03:931 (2) - definitely follow that triple -_

01:22:764 (1) - vs 01:01:431 (4) - ?_?

[adv]
00:33:764 (1,2) - circle+1/1 on the big white tick seems to fit a lot better. atm the rhythm is a bit awkward since you have vocal on slider end00:34:097 - then click at 00:34:264 - even tho the vocal phrase starts at 00:34:097 - which isnt clickable. better to rearrange rhythm to follow a different layer

00:53:264 (2) - shouldnt u remove 1 repeat l

01:14:597 (2) - same

[normal]
try and make some of your slider patterns look a little nicer, like 00:24:431 (1,4) - looks weird cuz 4 and 1 dont really match on the same x axis angle or 00:27:597 (2,4) - which could just be the same slider / same angle or ctrl h'd (since they loook like they should match visually but don't), 01:11:931 (6,2) - could be same slider, etc

00:49:431 (3) - try not to go against the repeat motion (to 4), flipping 3 horizontally is better.

01:08:097 (3) -

[crowie]
try to space 00:05:931 (1) - less, since it isn't on screen and there's no follow point new players will not move after 00:04:431 (2) - and as a result 00:05:931 (1) - will be tough because it needs a lot of precision to get to. .7 ds should be fine to avoid confusion since 1 isnt ever on the screen at the same time as 2 anyway.

00:12:597 (2,3) - these look really really cramped, space them away from 1 a bit. its ok to have like 1.05 or so ds in order to make these look a bit better. like http://puu.sh/yzj95/426cfd9067.jpg uses 1.07 on bth or something

00:14:597 (4,1,2) - same

00:30:264 (2,3) - pixel overlap tilt

01:22:597 (3,4,1) - this type of pattern may be a bit confusing, try and space 1 away from 3 so 4 is clearly in between
(this applies to all of these, like 01:01:264 (3,4,1) - )

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2017-12-05T08:02:56+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
m4m btw

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/700682

[hard]
00:33:764 (5) - this white tick is way too strong to ignore like this, the song basically repeats 00:32:597 (1,2,3) - this rhythm there so reflecting that is nicer imo Yeah thats fair

00:36:431 (5) - same tbh

00:41:764 (1) - circle + slider fits a lot better too. u dont need to ignore all these drum beats, the vocal focus isn't that important Yeah listening to it slow that works

01:03:264 (1) - same here. circle+1/1 Yeah, also fits with the 1/2 note slider that i did through the entire first kiai

and 01:03:931 (2) - definitely follow that triple -_ -

01:22:764 (1) - vs 01:01:431 (4) - ?_? Fixed NC on second one

[adv]
00:33:764 (1,2) - circle+1/1 on the big white tick seems to fit a lot better. atm the rhythm is a bit awkward since you have vocal on slider end00:34:097 - then click at 00:34:264 - even tho the vocal phrase starts at 00:34:097 - which isnt clickable. better to rearrange rhythm to follow a different layer Yeah, you're right. Fixed here and in next phrase

00:53:264 (2) - shouldnt u remove 1 repeat l ? 5 is fine

01:14:597 (2) - same

[normal]
try and make some of your slider patterns look a little nicer, like 00:24:431 (1,4) - looks weird cuz 4 and 1 dont really match on the same x axis angle or 00:27:597 (2,4) - which could just be the same slider / same angle or ctrl h'd (since they loook like they should match visually but don't), 01:11:931 (6,2) - could be same slider, etc Fixed the ones you mentioned

00:49:431 (3) - try not to go against the repeat motion (to 4), flipping 3 horizontally is better. I do this pretty consistently through the Kiai,
I would hope players can catch on after the first or second time.

01:08:097 (3) -

Thanks for mod, hopefully my points on your map help out as well.

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-12-05T18:41:52+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
m4m btw

[winnie]

00:41:264 (1,2,3) - circles plz - this one I'm not changing doesn't feel necessary for me
Other stuff changed Thanks

Winnie

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Crowie

osu!artist

328 posts

Joined August 2015

Crowie 2017-12-14T03:27:07+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[crowie]
try to space 00:05:931 (1) - less, since it isn't on screen and there's no follow point new players will not move after 00:04:431 (2) - and as a result 00:05:931 (1) - will be tough because it needs a lot of precision to get to. .7 ds should be fine to avoid confusion since 1 isnt ever on the screen at the same time as 2 anyway. lowered ar

00:12:597 (2,3) - these look really really cramped, space them away from 1 a bit. its ok to have like 1.05 or so ds in order to make these look a bit better. like http://puu.sh/yzj95/426cfd9067.jpg uses 1.07 on bth or something done

00:14:597 (4,1,2) - same ^

00:30:264 (2,3) - pixel overlap tilt fixed

01:22:597 (3,4,1) - this type of pattern may be a bit confusing, try and space 1 away from 3 so 4 is clearly in between
(this applies to all of these, like 01:01:264 (3,4,1) - fixed)

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Vert

424 posts

Joined October 2013

Vert 2017-12-19T16:10:09+00:00

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2018-01-08T15:14:10+00:00

oni
00:01:097 - i don't really get why this is mapped, takes way from melody stuff you follow imo. think moving it to 00:00:931 - makes more sense with how you handle following rhythms
intro might be a bit too repetitive already even if the song is really consistent, maybe you could do sth like change 00:05:431 (18,19) - 00:10:764 (37,38) - to kk so it alternates between both and at becomes a little more engaging
00:37:597 (113,114,115) - think doing kkD here puts way more emphasis on the downbeat cymbal stuff and would work well
00:41:486 - seems like snares are 1/3 here and you properly followed 1/3 on 01:25:597 (416,417,418,419) -
00:52:931 - 1/1 gap here seems kinda lame when it transitions into one of the more intense parts of the chorus. just adding a note here (d probably) would be great imo
01:04:431 (280,281) - somehow this felt really awkward to play for me, probably cause of the stop => finisher monocolor thing. think either doing k D or d K would work really well here
01:28:264 - ending spinner here like other diffs do would be better I think cause of guitar noise stuff

muzu
volume is kinda low overall, oni settings are nicer for playing imo (though current makes whistles more tolerable in editor)
00:05:264 (13) - whole intro seems to follow vocals so this feels unfitting, 00:10:263 (27,28,29) - these are fine as transition though
00:41:375 - felt really awkward to play since snares start on the next 1/3. something like https://i.imgur.com/FgdwW1h.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/lhp3UKY.jpg would be nice for rhythm I think

00:54:431 (214,215,216,217,218,219) - 00:56:597 (223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - 01:15:764 (314,315,316,317,318,319) - etc. all the repetitive kd 1/2 double spam is kinda lame for chorus part.
things like 00:54:431 (214,215,216,217) - could probably be changed to https://i.imgur.com/UkJLorg.jpg or similar to follow drum variation stuff in the song (also oni is so much more dense here lol)
or 01:15:764 - as something like https://i.imgur.com/LyVJt7H.jpg, the song offers enough things to make something more interesting than just repeating some thing this often I think

01:15:097 (312,313) - same issue as the 1:04 thing on oni, just making 01:15:264 - into K would work well imo
01:20:264 (332) - shouldnt this be k since you usually had them on other snares in chorus and d d d seems kinda weird here
01:25:431 (360,361,362,363) - bit gross to read with the sv caused overlapping stuff, just add some green lines here to make it more gradual, or keep 1x
also don't 5% the whole spinner pls, what nao did fits better volume wise I think

also inconsistent red/green line settings at 00:00:598 - on Muzu and Insane

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2018-01-08T21:09:06+00:00

Lasse wrote:
muzu
volume is kinda low overall, oni settings are nicer for playing imo (though current makes whistles more tolerable in editor) Yeah fixed. Idk why i keep using whistles
00:05:264 (13) - whole intro seems to follow vocals so this feels unfitting, 00:10:263 (27,28,29) - these are fine as transition though Thats fair. Deleted note at 00:10:264 as well
00:41:375 - felt really awkward to play since snares start on the next 1/3. something like https://i.imgur.com/FgdwW1h.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/lhp3UKY.jpg would be nice for rhythm I think Used first example. 1/3 doubles aren't something i use at any other point

00:54:431 (214,215,216,217,218,219) - 00:56:597 (223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - 01:15:764 (314,315,316,317,318,319) - etc. all the repetitive kd 1/2 double spam is kinda lame for chorus part.
things like 00:54:431 (214,215,216,217) - could probably be changed to https://i.imgur.com/UkJLorg.jpg or similar to follow drum variation stuff in the song (also oni is so much more dense here lol)
or 01:15:764 - as something like https://i.imgur.com/LyVJt7H.jpg, the song offers enough things to make something more interesting than just repeating some thing this often I think Increased density in these sections

01:15:097 (312,313) - same issue as the 1:04 thing on oni, just making 01:15:264 - into K would work well imo Fair
01:20:264 (332) - shouldnt this be k since you usually had them on other snares in chorus and d d d seems kinda weird here oops
01:25:431 (360,361,362,363) - bit gross to read with the sv caused overlapping stuff, just add some green lines here to make it more gradual, or keep 1x
also don't 5% the whole spinner pls, what nao did fits better volume wise I think Copied Nao's volumes and just made the SVs here 1x

also inconsistent red/green line settings at 00:00:598 - on Muzu and Insane Fixed both, oops

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2018-01-09T03:00:58+00:00

https://pastebin.com/raw/LMuJiEQh

fixed all except the intro consistency thing, i think it's fine. its like a 5 second section anyway having variation for the sake of it is not that useful.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2018-01-10T18:29:20+00:00

Lab Aesthetics Mod!

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[Advanced]
00:47:431 - should be placed at: [221, 241] (currently at: [222, 242]) to move in line with slider at time 00:47:597 -
[Crowie's Easy]
Nothing Detected!
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00:46:431 - should be placed at: [301, 264] (currently at: [302, 265]) to move in line with slider at time 00:45:931 -
00:57:097 - should be placed at: [394, 159] (currently at: [395, 160]) to move in line with slider at time 00:56:597 -
01:20:264 - should be placed at: [297, 55] (currently at: [294, 55]) to blanket slider body at time 01:20:597 -
[Normal]
Nothing Detected!
Results for stacked may be wrong, ya can ignore those.

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2018-01-10T18:58:44+00:00

asthethicc fixd

ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2018-02-05T06:20:11+00:00

Kocari's Insane

00:33:931 (1,2,3,4) - I really dislike these types of patterns, the single into triple is difficult to read, and easy to miss on. It's also the only time it's used in the entire difficulty and creates a stopping motion which doesn't work well here. I'd suggest that you move the 1 somewhere else.

00:36:597 (5,6) - This spacing is awfully high compared to the rest of the section prolyl should nerf.

01:01:097 (1) - ctrl-g this so that the direction changes 01:01:264 (2) - to emphasize the vocal

Hard

01:14:846 (10,11) - any reason to tilt the kickslider here owo
01:21:097 (1) - remove nc?

01:23:431 (2) - this slider's rhythm is really poor, there's nothing on the red tick.

Senko-san

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2018-02-05T06:41:06+00:00

ailv wrote:
Hard

01:14:846 (10,11) - any reason to tilt the kickslider here owo Is a little kinder for the 1/4 jump here than if it was to follow the stream shape (in terms of slider leniency)
01:21:097 (1) - remove nc? Kinda did this stylistically to emphasize the drums, but suppose its not critical

01:23:431 (2) - this slider's rhythm is really poor, there's nothing on the red tick. Oops. Copied rhythm from first kiai but the drum here is different. Changed.

will let you know when a Taiko BN has taken a look at the diffs

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2018-02-05T21:02:23+00:00

All Fixed

Insane

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 42264
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:DREAMCATCHER
TitleUnicode:DREAMCATCHER
Artist:nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:Hiicantpk
Version:Kocari's Insane
Source:魔法少女育成計画
Tags:Magical Girl Raising Project Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku ED Ending TV Size Snow White Ripple Kocari Crowie Naotoshi Nao Tomori HPK
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OverallDifficulty:7
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_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2018-02-09T09:49:00+00:00

Since im doing something similar, would wanna see this ranked!

kocari
00:33:931 (1) - why is this one NCed but not 00:36:597 (5) - ?
holy fuck the streams are so sexy
00:49:097 (2,3) - improve blanket pls im tilted
01:01:931 (1,2) - these aren't exactly aligned properly, but either way works ;/

hard
00:05:597 (5,1) - jump may be a bit too big... not really my taste
00:24:264 (3) - ghost note, shouldn't be needed since you're mapping to the vocals.
00:32:931 (3,4) - slightly unaligned(im a nazi ok)
01:01:431 (4) - highly recommend you map this out as normal circles, the intensity is really high here for the drums
01:04:264 (7) - any reason why this has only 1 reverse unlike 00:53:597 (11) - ? if you delete the notes and hear the song, the drum patterns are exactly the same on both parts.
01:09:764 (8,1) - nani de fok
imo the DS in the hard diff varies a lot at different areas, sometimes going from 1.3 then to 1.6 then 1.9 then back to 1.5 and stuff, it's pretty weird
may want to relook at the chorus

edit: this is my fucking 1337th post

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2018-02-10T04:14:47+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
hard
00:05:597 (5,1) - jump may be a bit too big... not really my taste I like the circular cursor movement this makes between 4,5 and 1. Also this introduces using slider leniency which I use in the chorus on the repeats.
00:24:264 (3) - ghost note, shouldn't be needed since you're mapping to the vocals. Even if its not to a vocal (like you mentioned which is the main focus), I feel it plays well and there is a drum there even if its not whats being emphasised by the map.
00:32:931 (3,4) - slightly unaligned(im a nazi ok) Tbh that would bug me too if it was ranked unaligned/
01:01:431 (4) - highly recommend you map this out as normal circles, the intensity is really high here for the drums Yeah fair
01:04:264 (7) - any reason why this has only 1 reverse unlike 00:53:597 (11) - ? if you delete the notes and hear the song, the drum patterns are exactly the same on both parts. In the other cases its this reverse slider into another slider, but here its into a note then slider. I worry it might give players of this level some trouble hitting the next note if the repeat slider has 2 repeats, and worse case with this they release the slider a little late which won't punish them.
01:09:764 (8,1) - nani de fok Ok mayb a little excessive
imo the DS in the hard diff varies a lot at different areas, sometimes going from 1.3 then to 1.6 then 1.9 then back to 1.5 and stuff, it's pretty weird
may want to relook at the chorus
edit: this is my fucking 1337th post lol rip

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2018-02-10T04:24:32+00:00

Done

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Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2018-02-15T03:46:09+00:00

Applied Kroytz Mod

Insane

Made You Look SoonTM

Kroytz

703 posts

Joined February 2013

Kroytz 2018-02-15T03:47:51+00:00

anime

Kocari

00:04:931 (5,6,7,8) - this does not look pleasing. can even have an extra circle on the blue tick because the sound still goes on 1/4s

00:10:264 (5,1,2,3,4) - blegh

00:12:764 (6) - I don't like the placement of (6) because it overlaps with the previous stream but moreso because it doesn't make a perfect triangle with (4,5)

00:17:098 (2,1,2,3) - budget triangle xd

00:39:264 (1) - overlap seems kind of funny. maybe perfect stack or reposition somewhere else

00:42:597 (4) - z___z

00:46:431 (3) - how come this strong beat feels underappreciated in comparison to something like with what you did over here 00:43:764 (3) -
00:47:431 (7) - ^

01:05:097 (3,4,5,6) - its a bit unusual that two drums of different strengths have the same spacing with their circles

01:25:931 (1) - move to 215;96?

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2018-02-18T20:26:38+00:00

general
hitsound volume at kiai time is low and makes the hitsounds hard to hear D:
between the top two diffs you could probably increase the OD by 1 or something cuz of the 1/4 stuff and notelocking
could also reduce the HP on Normal to 3 so it looks a bit more progressive in terms of spread or something lmao

insane
00:05:598 (9) - its definitely possible to turn this into a 1/4 repeat to keep the hold that you wanted from following the vocals while still being consistent to the filler rhythm you proposed just prior 00:05:264 (6,7,8) -
00:10:598 (1) - if you are going to stay with this NC here I would also apply an NC 00:05:264 (6) - to keep consistent
00:16:597 - if you could give more input as to why you increased the nc density within the same section here it would be appreciated. (reference starting from 00:11:264 (1) - )
00:32:931 - it seems like a mistake to not have an objects snapped to this sound since its pretty relevant in this section and other similar sounds have objects snapped to them.
00:39:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - since the approach to NCing before was pretty basic I would have to recommend staying consistent to it. Although I found NCing 00:41:931 (3) - could also be appropriate since you switch back to 1/4 or 1/2 base with the slider end at 00:43:181 -
just random suggestion, i think it would be cooler if your kiai was NC'd at about half the current density so it would follow the vocal phrases better.
01:15:181 (8,1) - i don't think its appropriate to introduce a stream jump at the end of the map.
01:25:931 (4) - if you were going to NC at 00:41:931 - it would be appropriate to NC here as well.

hard
ok

advanced
00:41:264 (2,3,4) - i think this is a bit too dense in comparison to the hard diff.
00:53:264 (2) - 01:14:597 (2) - this would feel way better if it were two 1/4 sliders with single repeats like https://bor.s-ul.eu/D5Yoqa8h.png

normal
i would just reduce the NC density of 00:00:598 - to 00:21:931 - to get better contrast for the sections

easy
00:00:598 - to 00:09:764 - would also reduce nc density here as well so its just two combos cuz its really calm
00:58:097 (4) - you could definitely make the turning point here more accurate to the drum beat that its close to (small thing)

good luck man, great song and chill maps

Senko-san

824 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Senko-san 2018-02-19T12:30:44+00:00

Fixed all, will raise OD on hard if Kocari raises it on Insane. thx _83

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2018-02-21T18:36:31+00:00

FIXED SOME STUFF

Insane

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 42264
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:DREAMCATCHER
TitleUnicode:DREAMCATCHER
Artist:nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:Hiicantpk
Version:Kocari's Insane
Source:魔法少女育成計画
Tags:Magical Girl Raising Project Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku ED Ending TV Size Snow White Ripple Kocari Crowie Naotoshi Nao Tomori HPK
BeatmapID:1142506
BeatmapSetID:537022

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

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0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Karee Pan

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Joined December 2015

Karee Pan 2018-02-22T11:07:41+00:00

Ummm, i mean better late than never!

[Muzukashii]
00:11:264 (30,40) - Don't think we need these finishers
00:15:431 (48) - You could delete this and switch 00:15:597 (49) to d to match the way you map them at 00:20:931 - .
00:26:931 (95,117) - You could consider d's here instead for the general drop in the pitch. Could also think about 00:26:431 (92,93,94,95) - as kdkd to mirror the previous 4plet.
00:32:764 (119) - Delete for consistency with the way you map this doublet in the next 4 sets
00:40:430 (154,155,156) - This is a bit different though, so you could go dK_K instead
00:55:764 (220) - Could delete this to have a doublet here too. Then 00:56:264 (222) - probably k.
00:58:930 (235,236) - Ctrl-g would emphasize the first finisher the same way as the other 2.
01:17:597 (321) - Sounds like a k to me.

[Oni]
00:14:097 (51,52) - No need for variety here would just Ctrl-g this.
00:15:431 (58,59,60) - This as a ddk and the other as a dkk suits the vocals better imo.
00:21:597 (24) - Don't think we need this note, let the last vocal ride.
00:38:515 (118,126) - These doublets could be removed now that the beat is so 1/4 heavy
00:45:597 - 00:49:764 - These 2 5plets seem too intense here, 3/1 1/3 works better and matches with the 2nd verse of the Kiai.
01:24:847 (412) - Moving this note to 01:25:014 - would serve the drums and the vocals better imo.

It's fun, it's different

Good luck!

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