DEAN FUJIOKA - History Maker [CatchTheBeat] · forum

sxy62146214

Beatmap Nominator

Joined May 2016

sxy62146214 2017-07-06T15:25:25+00:00

I saw this from your queue.Since I didn't say I want a M4M,but I hope you can look at my new map.XD

Green=It's not a problem.Just point this to discuss the possibility of improvement.
Black=Normal mod.
Orange=It looks like a big problem......
Red=What the hell.

67 BPM on ICE /o/

[

Cup]
00:13:515 (1) - In my opinion,this slider should be stronger and going to the right.Ctrl+G that and...put it totaly horizontal?
00:46:053 (1) - Make it like 00:40:978 (4).It will be more beautiful.
01:02:769 (3) - Same as 1st.I think it can be stronger.
01:05:157 (1) - What's this slider?I think it should be a wonderful "C"
01:20:679 (3) - Same as 1st.But I think at this place just Ctrl+G that.
[

Grape's Salad]
00:15:008 (1) - This reserve slider is Incomprehensible.The reserve and the end is on vocal but the begin isn't.
00:41:874 (1,2) - Why this is not a reserve slider?
00:42:769 (3) - And this should as strong as ^.Put it totaly horizontal.
00:49:933 (5) - ^
00:53:515 (4) - Why not Dash here XD.
01:00:679 (4) - ^
01:12:023 (6) - ??????If this is not a Dash,this should be a normaly walk.(1.7x)
01:19:187 (3) - Alright I saw a same thing.But I don't recomend this.It should have some movement,and 0.4x is quite ugly ):
(but 01:21:874 (5) looks good...)
01:25:456 (6) - I think players should move right here,not left.
[

Platter]
In this diff,1/4 1.3x is a little far.
00:06:948 (3) - You can let the end of the slider righter.This looks like a stright slider.
00:20:978 (3) - Why a HDash here?I here nothing,and the next note's music is not strong enough.
00:57:097 (1) - This should reserve.
01:15:008 (4) - Ctrl+G.
[

Rain]
00:04:262 (1,2,3,9) - A little far here.
00:09:933 (5) - Make it like 00:07:844 (2)?This bent slider doesn't mean sth but that raising vocal.This slider doesn't raise huh?
00:26:351 (5) & 00:27:247 (5) - Ctrl+G each?
00:32:918 (1,2) - Looks quite rigid.If me,I would move (2,3,4) a little right
00:57:097 (1) - Reserve?
01:25:754 (1,2,3) - Abrupt.When I'm playing,I thought this should be sth like "<"
This part is pretty good. (OwO)b.
[

Ascennoh's Moment]
00:02:918 (4,5) - This looks strange but I don't know how to improve it.
00:28:740 (1) - Yes I think fix it like "("
00:31:574 (4,5) - Same as 1st.
00:53:963 (2,3,1) - Strange Hitsounds...
00:55:903 (6) - - Yes I think fix it like ")"
01:17:620 (4,1,2) - Anti-Flow.
01:20:680 (2,3) - There are vocals here.Consider those vocals?
01:26:948 (2) - Miss a HDash here ;-;.

GL!

Last edited by sxy62146214 2017-07-07T14:20:35+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-07-06T20:28:10+00:00

Ill let Grapes and others know you modded.

It said requested to Grapes in the queue but I'll put it in my mod consideration list unless you wanna PM me for agreement to m4m.

Will respond when im off mobile

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-07-06T20:41:57+00:00

I can't reply until Monday, have Sinnoh reply for us both or feel free to wait for me

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-07-08T22:21:13+00:00

sxy62146214 wrote:
I saw this from your queue.Since I didn't say I want a M4M,but I hope you can look at my new map.XD I might mod your map when I get the energy but otherwise you should have specificed M4M in the queue requests

Green=It's not a problem.Just point this to discuss the possibility of improvement.
Black=Normal mod.
Orange=It looks like a big problem......
Red=What the hell.

67 BPM on ICE /o/

[ Cup]
00:13:515 (1) - In my opinion,this slider should be stronger and going to the right.Ctrl+G that and...put it totaly horizontal? There's already an exaggerated walk there for emphasis so i think it's fine
00:46:053 (1) - Make it like 00:40:978 (4).It will be more beautiful. Not really, makes no difference
01:02:769 (3) - Same as 1st.I think it can be stronger. Again, i have an emphasized walk there.
01:05:157 (1) - What's this slider?I think it should be a wonderful "C" Attempted to do so
01:20:679 (3) - Same as 1st.But I think at this place just Ctrl+G that. Same as other suggestions

[ Platter]
In this diff,1/4 1.3x is a little far. The song is in 1/3, it's walkable
00:06:948 (3) - You can let the end of the slider righter.This looks like a stright slider. On purpose i did that
00:20:978 (3) - Why a HDash here?I here nothing,and the next note's music is not strong enough. There's a background clap sound that is really strong. it's emphasized with the hitsounding as well
00:57:097 (1) - This should reserve. What am i supposed to do? Reserve what?
01:15:008 (4) - Ctrl+G. No, that will create an edgedash

[ Rain]
00:04:262 (1,2,3,9) - A little far here. On purpose to make the flow of the curve nice
00:09:933 (5) - Make it like 00:07:844 (2)?This bent slider doesn't mean sth but that raising vocal.This slider doesn't raise huh? Deepened curve but the slider stays vertical to match the softness of the instruments
00:26:351 (5) & 00:27:247 (5) - Ctrl+G each? I don't like that movement
00:32:918 (1,2) - Looks quite rigid.If me,I would move (2,3,4) a little right
00:57:097 (1) - Reserve? Deepened curve
01:25:754 (1,2,3) - Abrupt.When I'm playing,I thought this should be sth like "<" I can't do that movement without overlap so the pattern stays
This part is pretty good. (OwO)b. thanks

GL!

Thanks fam.

For xtrem3x mod, Weber applied everything and gave me the diff in discord, it's been updated

Jonarwhal

1,227 posts

Joined November 2013

Jonarwhal 2017-07-09T16:56:27+00:00

xtrem3x wrote:
~~placeholder (taiko mod)~~

M4M (?)

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K yo se

> in Taiko diffs with notepad change this >> 0,0,"1 Jona BG.jpg",0,0 << last 0 to 90. prefiero 100

> (Taiko diffs) SV 1.40 Obligatory, is better use inherited points with 2.00x velocity to compensate that BPM. 2.80x es 1.40x x2

Jontsuu

HP7

00:27:993 - Cambia esta nota a d --> para enfatizar mejor la siguiente. creo que k es mejor para enfatizar el tono alto aqui

00:37:396 - cambia esta nota a d --> tiene el mismo enfasis que la nota anterior. lo mismo que anterior
00:44:560 - lo mismo. hay un tono alto aqui

01:11:724 - hace falta una nota aquí... claro que si

MuzuJon

00:15:008 - falta una nota aquí... claro que si

Here is J'Oni

00:23:068 (84,88) - cambia estas notas a d --> aunque deberían seguir un ritmo, no suenan los claps en estas notas. claro que si
>> Agrega notas en estos puntos para dejar mas denso los patrones (es muy repetitivo el ritmo que dejaste antes de 00:22:172- )

00:23:814 - d claro que si
00:27:396 - k claro que si
00:28:590 - k claro que si
(en 1/12) 00:29:112 - d no creo que 1/12 es una idea buena
(en 1/12) 00:29:187 - d anterior

00:43:068 - cambia esta nota a k --> tiene el mismo tono vocal que la nota anterior. no, el tono es mas bajo aqui

(en 1/12) 01:01:351 - agrega una nota aquí para hacer un triple. no creo que 1/12 es una idea buena

01:04:709 - Otra nota d aquí. claro que si

(en 1/12) 01:08:515 - otra nota aquí (y sea kkk) no creo que 1/12 es una idea buena

01:17:097 - agrega una d. claro que si
01:17:545 - otra nota aquí. claro que si

gracias para assessorar~

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-07-09T20:53:36+00:00

Applied Jonawaga's changes.

Waiting on Grapes, Sinnoh and Ascendance

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-07-12T19:34:30+00:00

sxy62146214 wrote:
I saw this from your queue.Since I didn't say I want a M4M,but I hope you can look at my new map.XD

[notice]Green=It's not a problem.Just point this to discuss the possibility of improvement.
Black=Normal mod.
Orange=It looks like a big problem......
Red=What the hell.

67 BPM on ICE /o/

[ Grape's Salad]
00:15:008 (1) - This reserve slider is Incomprehensible.The reserve and the end is on vocal but the begin isn't. i made this a repeat to transition to the vocals from the song, which means that i did this on purpose. im not changing.
00:41:874 (1,2) - Why this is not a reserve slider? i wanted to emphasize the word that (2) maps and adding a repeat here dosent really change anything.
00:42:769 (3) - And this should as strong as ^.Put it totaly horizontal. i guess it wouldnt hurt to make it horizontal
00:49:933 (5) - ^
00:53:515 (4) - Why not Dash here XD. unessesary XD
01:00:679 (4) - ^ ^ XD (for consistancy)
01:12:023 (6) - ??????If this is not a Dash,this should be a normaly walk.(1.7x) yea i see ur point but i wanted to make a dash to the next note so i decided to lower the spacing here by alot. not changing.
01:19:187 (3) - Alright I saw a same thing.But I don't recomend this.It should have some movement,and 0.4x is quite ugly ):
(but 01:21:874 (5) looks good...) same reason as above.
01:25:456 (6) - I think players should move right here,not left wanted to make a dash to the last history and going left wouldve not made me able to unless i remap the last few notes.

GL!

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-07-21T02:08:55+00:00

Applied Grapes changes (email decided to mess with me)

Reminding Ascendance and Sinnoh now.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-07-21T02:18:43+00:00

sxy62146214 wrote:
I saw this from your queue.Since I didn't say I want a M4M,but I hope you can look at my new map.XD

[ Ascennoh's Moment]
00:02:918 (4,5) - This looks strange but I don't know how to improve it. I increased spacing and the angle to it, should play much nicer.
00:28:740 (1) - Yes I think fix it like "(" Hmm I think since it isn't a super pronounced sound, I'd like to leave it as is.
00:31:574 (4,5) - Same as 1st. Did something like before
00:53:963 (2,3,1) - Strange Hitsounds... @Roseus please fix it if there's an issue here, I didn't hitsound so I can't reply properly
00:55:903 (6) - - Yes I think fix it like ")" Same as before
01:17:620 (4,1,2) - Anti-Flow. I don't see the issue here D:
01:20:680 (2,3) - There are vocals here.Consider those vocals? Okay, I did it.
01:26:948 (2) - Miss a HDash here ;-;. Nope, the next one only has an HDash for buildup, so the inconsistency is intended.[

GL!

Thanks for modding, and sorry for being late!

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-07-21T02:23:34+00:00

Ascendance wrote:

sxy62146214 wrote:
I saw this from your queue.Since I didn't say I want a M4M,but I hope you can look at my new map.XD

[ Ascennoh's Moment]
00:02:918 (4,5) - This looks strange but I don't know how to improve it. I increased spacing and the angle to it, should play much nicer.
00:28:740 (1) - Yes I think fix it like "(" Hmm I think since it isn't a super pronounced sound, I'd like to leave it as is.
00:31:574 (4,5) - Same as 1st. Did something like before
00:53:963 (2,3,1) - Strange Hitsounds... @Roseus please fix it if there's an issue here, I didn't hitsound so I can't reply properly
00:55:903 (6) - - Yes I think fix it like ")" Same as before
01:17:620 (4,1,2) - Anti-Flow. I don't see the issue here D:
01:20:680 (2,3) - There are vocals here.Consider those vocals? Okay, I did it.
01:26:948 (2) - Miss a HDash here ;-;. Nope, the next one only has an HDash for buildup, so the inconsistency is intended.[

GL!

Thanks for modding, and sorry for being late!

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Artist:DEAN FUJIOKA
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Version:Ascennoh's Moment
Source:ユーリ!!! on ICE
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Hitsounding issue was fixed and changes applied.

We're ready to start finding BNs.

JierYagtama

716 posts

Joined November 2015

JierYagtama 2017-08-17T07:28:59+00:00

welp

Surono

7,196 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2017-08-19T21:06:15+00:00

ugh i forget x_x

dem rip

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-08-19T23:28:43+00:00

Dun.

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-08-20T18:32:19+00:00

Surono wrote:
ugh i forget x_x

dem rip

Soon(tm)?

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-09-16T20:55:12+00:00

RoseusJaeger wrote:
Soon(tm)?

Now(tm)?

Requested in my Interesting Queue

General

Video isn't enabled on Grapes' Salad
soft-hitwhistle.wav is reading as unused. When you're in S:C1, you mostly just use finishes and hitnormals

Cup

01:12:023 (4,1) - A little far compared to your previous strong walks, which were around 1.8-1.9x, consider reducing this a tiny bit

Grapes' Salad

00:27:247 (3,4) - 00:30:232 (2,3) - Should probably be a dash for consistency with 00:23:068 (2,3) -
00:42:471 (2,3) - Feels very underwhelming, definitely supports a dash. 00:42:769 (3,4) - could probably be increased a little also
00:44:560 (2,3) - 00:48:739 (2,3) - 00:49:635 (4,5) - I think you forgot you were mapping a Salad here lol, this is the buildup to the kiai and the vocals are really strong why is this so plain? :/
00:56:799 (4,5) - 01:04:262 (5) - 01:07:844 (1,2) - 01:10:530 (4,5) - you gotta jump jump that's what the bass is for
01:15:008 (1,2) - 01:17:694 (1,2) - 01:21:874 (5,6) - hop step dash adventure

The diff is honestly fine aside from the fact its super boring, get some jumps in there lol

Platter

00:02:321 (6,1,2,3) - If you could avoid the first dashes in the map being obnoxiously large 1/4s that would be cool. Try easing the player into the map so they can get a feel for the visual and emphatic distances in play
00:20:978 (3,4) - Unnecessary hyper imo, the vocal here is weak and 00:21:277 (4,1) - already does a much better job of introducing hypers. Same applies at 00:27:545 (1,2) -
00:24:560 (5,1,2) - Wouldn't hyper fit better to (2) for the stronger vocal sound as you did previously (see point above)
00:35:605 (1,2) - No hyper here for the strong vocal sound?
00:47:545 (3,4,5) - These shouldn't have the same spacing when (5) is so much stronger than (4), so I'd make (3,4) walkable
01:19:187 (3,4) - Hyper to emphasis the end of this strong vocal section?

Rain

00:00:680 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Personally I don't think any of these are strong enough for hypers, compared to 00:04:112 (5,1) - for example. I'd stick with normal spacing and dashes for a better introduction
00:19:485 (1,2) - Intended hyper? Very harsh regular spacing as it stands, considering this vocal sound is quite weak I'd probably reduce the spacing tbh
00:25:605 (6,1) - Missing hyper for consistency with 00:21:575 (5,1) - 00:29:187 (6,1) -
01:02:769 (2,3) - Pretty harsh dash inbetween two hypers, consider reducing

Ascennoh's Moment

The orange combo colour turned pink does that symbolise your everlasting love for each other or something
00:12:023 (4,1) - Possible hyper? Consistency with 00:08:590 (4,1) - 00:10:381 (5,1) - etc.
00:47:844 (2,3) - Strong vocal ends on slidertail with no movement, so try swapping these for circle and repeat slider for better emphasis

Hope these suggestions help! Since you said you were feeling generous, feel free to look at the whichever two diffs on 143 you feel most comfortable with.

Good luck! (:

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-09-16T22:37:03+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
RoseusJaeger wrote:
Soon(tm)?
Now(tm)?

Requested in my Interesting Queue

General
Video isn't enabled on Grapes' Salad Done
soft-hitwhistle.wav is reading as unused. When you're in S:C1, you mostly just use finishes and hitnormals Sinnoh did hitsounding but I'll fix

Cup
01:12:023 (4,1) - A little far compared to your previous strong walks, which were around 1.8-1.9x, consider reducing this a tiny bit Fixed, down to 1.9x

Platter
00:02:321 (6,1,2,3) - If you could avoid the first dashes in the map being obnoxiously large 1/4s that would be cool. Try easing the player into the map so they can get a feel for the visual and emphatic distances in play Simplified the opening
00:20:978 (3,4) - Unnecessary hyper imo, the vocal here is weak and 00:21:277 (4,1) - already does a much better job of introducing hypers. Same applies at 00:27:545 (1,2) - Made into dashes
00:24:560 (5,1,2) - Wouldn't hyper fit better to (2) for the stronger vocal sound as you did previously (see point above) Sure, makes sense
00:35:605 (1,2) - No hyper here for the strong vocal sound? Editor is cucking me and wont trigger 1/2 hypers
00:47:545 (3,4,5) - These shouldn't have the same spacing when (5) is so much stronger than (4), so I'd make (3,4) walkable Done but had to move some patterns around
01:19:187 (3,4) - Hyper to emphasis the end of this strong vocal section? Added Hyper but it hugs the edge of the editor now

Rain
00:00:680 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Personally I don't think any of these are strong enough for hypers, compared to 00:04:112 (5,1) - for example. I'd stick with normal spacing and dashes for a better introduction Nerfed the beginning
00:19:485 (1,2) - Intended hyper? Very harsh regular spacing as it stands, considering this vocal sound is quite weak I'd probably reduce the spacing tbh reduced
00:25:605 (6,1) - Missing hyper for consistency with 00:21:575 (5,1) - 00:29:187 (6,1) - Added
01:02:769 (2,3) - Pretty harsh dash inbetween two hypers, consider reducing Hopefully fixed, reduced a pixel

Hope these suggestions help! Since you said you were feeling generous, feel free to look at the whichever two diffs on 143 you feel most comfortable with.

Good luck! (:

Thank you, I'll try to get to 143 when i have time

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-09-17T05:03:46+00:00

legit i applied all dashes LOL

salad

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yo roseus, when i was applying the video still didnt show up for me. i mentioned this in dms but still good to let you know here.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-09-19T03:49:41+00:00

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-09-19T05:26:42+00:00

i unsubbed because i thought it died lol

JBHyperion wrote:
Ascennoh's Moment
The orange combo colour turned pink does that symbolise your everlasting love for each other or something
00:12:023 (4,1) - Possible hyper? Consistency with 00:08:590 (4,1) - 00:10:381 (5,1) - etc. yes
00:47:844 (2,3) - Strong vocal ends on slidertail with no movement, so try swapping these for circle and repeat slider for better emphasis changed stuff to fix
Hope these suggestions help! Since you said you were feeling generous, feel free to look at the whichever two diffs on 143 you feel most comfortable with.

Good luck! (:

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-09-19T22:35:23+00:00

Fixed combo colors on the last diff as well as applied Grapes and Sinnoh's changes.

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-09-20T00:02:33+00:00

I had looked at the top diff and had mentioned a few issues on Discord and Roseus asked me to post them here and for good reason, apparently. Quick reviewed all the diffs again and found some stuff worth mentioning before this gets pushed.

[Ascennoh's Moment]

00:54:336 (3) - This should be in the 1/8 tick right after the slider. I think it sounds a bit weird, so I'd opt to delete the circle and extend the slider instead.
01:01:500 (5) - As far as I can tell, this isn't backed by any sound, so it should be deleted.
01:06:053 (7,8) - I fail to see what's worth emphasizing with a HDash on this part. Also applies for 01:07:844 (7,8,9) - (on this case, the double HDash is totally uncalled for), 01:13:217 (7,8,9,10) - and 01:15:008 (4,5,6) - (again, the double HDash is not implied by the song in any way).
01:17:620 (4) - Same thing as in 00:54:336 (3) -.

[Rain]

I felt most of your 1/6 dashes were leaning on the feeling-a-bit-tight side, sitting at ~x2.8 distance. Note that this is the distance that you use for one of the strongest parts of the song, near the end (01:26:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ). I think the dashes in non-Kiai sections would be more comfortable being 1-2 gridspaces shorter.

[Platter]

00:02:620 (2,3) - This dash looks rather random. If the reason is the high pitch, there are several equally high pitched sound throughout the stream, making it inconsistent. If anything, I would have expected dashes at 00:01:426 (6,1) - , 00:02:321 (6,1) - and/or 00:03:217 (6,1) - .

[Grapes' Salad]

My main concern is that there are a lot of dashes here that feel really large. My recommendation would be to have non-Kiai section dashes (such as 00:10:530 (4,1) - , 00:15:008 (1,2) - , 00:17:097 (4,5) -, 00:17:694 (5,1) - and the rest) at ~x2.8 distance. Kiai dashes also feel really large (take 00:49:933 (5,1) - or 00:56:799 (4,5) - for example), so I'd suggest having the strongest ones (such as 00:49:933 (5,1) - and 00:57:097 (5,1) - ) at ~x3.2 distance and the others ~x2.8-x3.0.

[Cup]

00:44:262 (1) - This misses the vocal at the white tick, which is the strongest one. Options would be to replace this with a circle + slider, or just shorten the slider and make it start on the white tick.

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-09-20T15:15:52+00:00

nerfed a bunch of dashes after reading zirox's mod.

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:History Maker
Artist:DEAN FUJIOKA
ArtistUnicode:DEAN FUJIOKA
Creator:RoseusJaeger
Version:Grapes' Salad
Source:ユーリ!!! on ICE
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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-09-23T22:07:58+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
I had looked at the top diff and had mentioned a few issues on Discord and Roseus asked me to post them here and for good reason, apparently. Quick reviewed all the diffs again and found some stuff worth mentioning before this gets pushed.

[Rain]
I felt most of your 1/6 dashes were leaning on the feeling-a-bit-tight side, sitting at ~x2.8 distance. Note that this is the distance that you use for one of the strongest parts of the song, near the end (01:26:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ). I think the dashes in non-Kiai sections would be more comfortable being 1-2 gridspaces shorter. Nerfed the non-kiai dashes
[Platter]
00:02:620 (2,3) - This dash looks rather random. If the reason is the high pitch, there are several equally high pitched sound throughout the stream, making it inconsistent. If anything, I would have expected dashes at 00:01:426 (6,1) - , 00:02:321 (6,1) - and/or 00:03:217 (6,1) - . Instead, I added another dash at the high sound and a hyper at the highest sound since 1/6 hyper is now rankable under new RC
[Cup]
00:44:262 (1) - This misses the vocal at the white tick, which is the strongest one. Options would be to replace this with a circle + slider, or just shorten the slider and make it start on the white tick. Fixed

Applied Grapes changes and notifying Ascendance of mod

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-09-28T21:09:40+00:00

double hdash is there because strong bass noise, hdashes are there mostly because the triplets are split into 3/3 there with strong sharp violin noises so ye

kept the circle at 00:54:336 (3) - since i think it sounds better

others fixed

osu file format v14

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ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-10-22T17:44:23+00:00

Hello, it's a more strict check!

[Cup]

00:27:545 (1) - This could end on the red tick if you want to focus on vocals
01:16:799 (2) - I think this would sound better if it ended on the red tick, because of strong vocals there.

[Grapes' Salad]

This diff has a lower max combo than the Cup. While this is not too much of an issue because of GD leniency, it would be preferable that it is avoided. So in some points below there will be suggestions to add notes.
00:05:157 (1,3) - I suggest you either add the repeat or extend them to be 2/3 sliders, for consistency with the rest of your patterns and because the sounds aren't that weak.
00:11:426 (1,2) - This distance feels a bit ambiguous right now. So either reduce it or increase it to make your intention (dash or walk) clearer.
00:21:277 (4) - I suggest replacing this with a 1/3 repeat slider. It will cover the vocals and and will let you create a dash between 00:21:277 (4,1) - , which serves quite well to signal the pace change.
00:23:963 (3,4) - I think this would sound better if you mapped all the vocals in 1/2 ticks. So 00:23:963 (3) - should end on the red tick instead, and 00:24:859 (4) - could be replaced with a 1/2 slider. This will also let you add a dash between (4,1).
00:27:545 (4,5) - ^Similar stuff could be done here.
00:31:127 (3,4) - Personally I don't think this deserves the dash, so I would move stuff around, maybe like this:
SPOILER
00:42:769 (3) - The nearly vertical repeat slider plays a bit boring. Maybe you can move 00:41:874 (1,2,4) - to the right and then move 00:42:769 (3) -'s head to the right a bit too.
00:53:515 (4) - Maybe you can replace this with a 1/2 slider, to cover the sound at the red tick but also because, if you move 00:54:411 (1) - around a bit, it will let you create a 1/2 dash - fitting since we're on the Kiai.
01:00:679 (4) - ^Same stuff
01:03:963 (4) - I'd more this a bit more to the left, to make the dashes around 01:04:262 (5) - a bit more different. The idea is that (5,1) is slightly larger than (4,5) to emphasize the downbeat better.
01:07:844 (1,2) - I'd make this dash a little bit shorter since we aren't on the Kiai anymore.
01:10:530 (4,5) - ^Same stuff
01:16:799 (3) - If you're following vocals, this should end on the red tick.
01:17:694 (1,2) - Feels a bit too large. I'd move (1) to the right a bit.
01:22:172 (6,1) - Similar stuff, but this one comes after an antiflow movement which makes it even harder.

[Platter]

00:02:620 (2,3) - I will insist that this dash doesn't really feel fitting, as 00:02:471 (1) - is a more important beat. Same for 00:03:515 (2,3) - .
00:04:112 (6,1) - While this is within the x1.5 above trigger distance rule, it feels quite strong, so maybe I'd move the streams closer to it as a whole.
00:13:217 (4) - It doesn't really make sense that the distances to and from this are this similar, because (4) is stronger than (5). I'd move 00:13:217 (4,5,6,7) - to the right a bit, and adjust 00:14:112 (1) - accordingly to keep the HDash.
00:23:963 (3,4,5,1) - The slider sort of gives the vibe that you're following vocals, so to me it would feel better if you followed the vocals in the 1/2 ticks instead.
00:27:545 (1) - Same as commented for the Cup. If this is following vocals it should end on the red tick.
00:35:605 (1,2) - I think you could make this dash larger, as it feels a bit short (in fact, I almost miss it because of dashing too much).
00:38:888 (2,3) - I get that you made this a larger distance because of the high pitched vocals, but it caught me a bit off guard because I didn't expect this on a calm part and based on the distance of the previous pattern.
00:46:053 (4,1) - ^Same stuff.
01:05:903 (2,4,5,6,7,8,3) - I wouldn't map the 1/6s following the violin here. In the whole 01:05:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - section, you only followed the violin in those two spots, which makes it feel quite inconsistent.
01:16:799 (2) - Should end on the red tick if you're following vocals.

[Rain]

00:01:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the only part where the dash splits the notes in groups of 3 rather than 2 and 4. Make it consistent with the rest.
00:19:485 (1,2) - This dash feels a biiiit to large. Maybe you can move 00:20:381 (2,3,4) - to x:440.
00:23:515 (3,4) - This part feels like it's missing a dash, since on 00:23:068 (1,2,3,4,5) - there's are 3 places where the vocals are strong: 00:23:068 (1) - 's head, 00:23:366 (2) - and 00:23:366 (2,4) - . Maybe you could do something like this:
SPOILER
00:26:799 (2,3) - ^Similar stuff here. Note the sounds you emphasized in the Platter.
00:30:679 (3,4) - ^Similar stuff here.
00:32:471 (3,4) - ^Similar stuff here.
00:34:112 (3,4) - ^Similar stuff here.
00:37:097 (2) - The 1/6 dash doesn't really fit the pace of the section; I'd replace the slider with a circle.
01:08:291 (4,5) - Similar stuff as mentioned previously, there should be a dash between these. That way, you emphasize all vocals equally.
01:10:530 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Similar stuff here, a dash every two notes would fit the vocals really nicely.
01:13:665 (3,4) - Similar stuff here.
01:15:157 (2,3) - Similar stuff here.
01:17:993 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - Some distances here don't fit your hitsounding. There should be a dash (or HDash for the strongest) every 2 notes here, as the finish hitsounds suggest.
01:21:277 (1,2) - Again, this should follow the 2-2-2 structure that you've used throughout this previous section.
01:23:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Reduce the volume for this stream a bit, please.
01:25:754 (1,2,3,4) - Again, this breaks the 2-2-2 structure you've been using. Make it 6 circles instead and place the dashes consistently with your previous patterns.
01:25:306 (3,4) - Doesn't make sense that you have the finish hitsound with no distance at all. Even some antiflow like you did on 01:24:262 (2,3) - fits better here.

[Ascennoh's Moment]

00:33:814 (1,2,3,4) - There's something about this pattern that I feel uncomfortable. Maybe the antiflow + the dash that should be at 00:33:963 (2,3) - but isn't? I suggest you move some stuff around to make the pattern more like 00:32:023 (1,2,3,4,5) - , like this:
SPOILER
00:54:336 (3) - If you don't want to put this on the proper snap because it doesn't sound as good, you may as well remove this note, since the pattern will retain the HDash.
01:06:053 (7,8) - I think this should use a 2-2-2 structure, because the vocals are more prominent IMO.
01:07:844 (7,8,9) - ^Same stuff.
01:13:217 (7,8,9,10) - ^Same stuff.
01:15:008 (4,5,6) - ^Same stuff.
01:17:620 (4) - Same thing as for 00:54:336 (3) -

Call me back.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-10-22T21:59:28+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Hello, it's a more strict check!

[Ascennoh's Moment]
00:54:336 (3) - If you don't want to put this on the proper snap because it doesn't sound as good, you may as well remove this note, since the pattern will retain the HDash. Switched it to 1/8 as previously suggested
01:06:053 (7,8) - I think this should use a 2-2-2 structure, because the vocals are more prominent IMO.
01:07:844 (7,8,9) - ^Same stuff.
01:13:217 (7,8,9,10) - ^Same stuff.
01:15:008 (4,5,6) - ^Same stuff.
01:17:620 (4) - Same thing as for 00:54:336 (3) - Fixed
Call me back.

Discussion with ZiRoX on discord about the unanswered stuff:

Logs

ascendance - Today at 5:18 PM
yo

ZiRoX - Today at 5:18 PM
sup

ascendance - Today at 5:18 PM
for the 2-2-2 structure thing on history maker
is it okay if i leave it for now and then if jbh also disagrees with it, i'll change it?
or is it something i must change
i kinda prefer what i have but i'm open to changing

ZiRoX - Today at 5:22 PM
uh ,why?
any actual reasoning

ascendance - Today at 5:23 PM
because the intro of the violin sounds in the back i feel are important to highlight
the vocals are important too, but i emphasize those in every case except where the violin is because it is a unique part of the ending
basically, any part where it says "born to make history", i switch back to the vocals because those are more important
since duh its the song's name
but the instrumental for me is the part i'd prefer to bring out
what are your thots

ZiRoX - Today at 5:37 PM
tbh I'd prefer the 2-2-2
just noticed that it mostly alternates violin and vocals
like 01:05:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is violin
01:06:053 (7,8) - vocals
01:06:948 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - violin
01:07:844 (7,8,9) - vocals

ascendance - Today at 5:38 PM
ye
so, would it be okay if i kept it for now and got the 2nd nominator's opinions on it?

ZiRoX - Today at 5:49 PM
to be honest the vocals stand out a lot
so what you do doesn't make sense to me

ascendance - Today at 5:55 PM
it makes sense to me thats why i want the extra opinion

ZiRoX - Today at 5:56 PM
okay, leave it for now
sighs

ascendance - Today at 5:57 PM
lovely

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-10-22T22:06:37+00:00

Applied Ascendance's changes, waiting on Sinnoh and Grapes asked me to apply for him so I will respond for him

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-10-23T03:40:38+00:00

00:43:665 (1) - This needs a hitsound, finish might work
01:19:485 (1) - I dont' think the hitsounds used here are correct, claps doesn't really fit

fixed zirox's point

not pasting the whole thing cuz metadata is "ãƒ¦ãƒ¼ãƒª!!! on ICE"

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DeletedUser_6709840

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DeletedUser_6709840 2017-10-24T19:41:43+00:00

Fixed Sinnoh's hitsounding and applying changes. I'm dragging to apply Rain and then I'll be done

Raiden

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Raiden 2017-10-24T20:15:07+00:00

remember to change the bpm to 134 as despite being incorrect musically, it solves the taiko's problem which makes a bar line appear on every beat at bpms slower than 75

DeletedUser_6709840

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DeletedUser_6709840 2017-10-24T20:23:22+00:00

Applied all CTB changes, I won't change BPM on the CTB diffs because otherwise, it would mess up the entire structure of the mapping

Hello, it's a more strict check!

Cup
00:27:545 (1)- This could end on the red tick if you want to focus on vocals
01:16:799 (2)- I think this would sound better if it ended on the red tick, because of strong vocals there.

Grapes' Salad
This diff has a lower max combo than the Cup. While this is not too much of an issue because of GD leniency, it would be preferable that it is avoided. So in some points below there will be suggestions to add notes.
00:05:157 (1,3)- I suggest you either add the repeat or extend them to be 2/3 sliders, for consistency with the rest of your patterns and because the sounds aren't that weak. ( Made (1) a 2/3 and (3) a repeat )
00:11:426 (1,2)- This distance feels a bit ambiguous right now. So either reduce it or increase it to make your intention (dash or walk) clearer.
00:21:277 (4)- I suggest replacing this with a 1/3 repeat slider. It will cover the vocals and and will let you create a dash between 00:21:277 (4,1)- , which serves quite well to signal the pace change.
00:23:963 (3,4)- I think this would sound better if you mapped all the vocals in 1/2 ticks. So 00:23:963 (3)- should end on the red tick instead, and 00:24:859 (4)- could be replaced with a 1/2 slider. This will also let you add a dash between (4,1).
00:27:545 (4,5)- ^Similar stuff could be done here.
00:31:127 (3,4)- Personally I don't think this deserves the dash, so I would move stuff around, maybe like this ( Strong sound, needs a dash. Even I did dashes to that rhythm in my diffs)
00:42:769 (3)- The nearly vertical repeat slider plays a bit boring. Maybe you can move 00:41:874 (1,2,4)- to the right and then move 00:42:769 (3)-'s head to the right a bit too. ( Moved slightly )
00:53:515 (4)- Maybe you can replace this with a 1/2 slider, to cover the sound at the red tick but also because, if you move 00:54:411 (1)- around a bit, it will let you create a 1/2 dash - fitting since we're on the Kiai.
01:00:679 (4)- ^Same stuff
01:03:963 (4)- I'd more this a bit more to the left, to make the dashes around 01:04:262 (5)- a bit more different. The idea is that (5,1) is slightly larger than (4,5) to emphasize the downbeat better.
01:07:844 (1,2)- I'd make this dash a little bit shorter since we aren't on the Kiai anymore.
01:10:530 (4,5)- ^Same stuff
01:16:799 (3)- If you're following vocals, this should end on the red tick.
01:17:694 (1,2)- Feels a bit too large. I'd move (1) to the right a bit. ( moved (2) instead )
01:22:172 (6,1)- Similar stuff, but this one comes after an antiflow movement which makes it even harder. ( Reduced to Kiai dash )

Platter
00:02:620 (2,3)- I will insist that this dash doesn't really feel fitting, as 00:02:471 (1)- is a more important beat. Same for 00:03:515 (2,3)- . ( I don't like it but I did apply it. I personally think they're weak beats )
00:04:112 (6,1)- While this is within the x1.5 above trigger distance rule, it feels quite strong, so maybe I'd move the streams closer to it as a whole.
00:13:217 (4)- It doesn't really make sense that the distances to and from this are this similar, because (4) is stronger than (5). I'd move 00:13:217 (4,5,6,7)- to the right a bit, and adjust 00:14:112 (1)- accordingly to keep the Hdash. ( I made them the same distance for consistency instead )
00:23:963 (3,4,5,1)- The slider sort of gives the vibe that you're following vocals, so to me it would feel better if you followed the vocals in the 1/2 ticks instead.
00:27:545 (1)- Same as commented for the Cup. If this is following vocals it should end on the red tick.
00:35:605 (1,2)- I think you could make this dash larger, as it feels a bit short (in fact, I almost miss it because of dashing too much).
00:38:888 (2,3)- I get that you made this a larger distance because of the high pitched vocals, but it caught me a bit off guard because I didn't expect this on a calm part and based on the distance of the previous pattern. ( I'm putting emphasis on the vocal )
00:46:053 (4,1)- ^Same stuff. ( Same as before )
01:05:903 (2,4,5,6,7,8,3)- I wouldn't map the 1/6s following the violin here. In the whole 01:05:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5)- section, you only followed the violin in those two spots, which makes it feel quite inconsistent. ( Deleted 2 notes )
01:16:799 (2)- Should end on the red tick if you're following vocals.

Rain
00:01:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6)- This is the only part where the dash splits the notes in groups of 3 rather than 2 and 4. Make it consistent with the rest.
00:19:485 (1,2)- This dash feels a biiiit to large. Maybe you can move 00:20:381 (2,3,4)- to x:440.
00:23:515 (3,4)- This part feels like it's missing a dash, since on 00:23:068 (1,2,3,4,5)- there's are 3 places where the vocals are strong: 00:23:068 (1)- 's head, 00:23:366 (2)- and 00:23:366 (2,4)- . Maybe you could do something like this:
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00:26:799 (2,3)- ^Similar stuff here. Note the sounds you emphasized in the Platter.
00:30:679 (3,4)- ^Similar stuff here. ( Vocals are too ambiguous to me here, pattern stays )
00:32:471 (3,4)- ^Similar stuff here.
00:34:112 (3,4)- ^Similar stuff here.
00:37:097 (2)- The 1/6 dash doesn't really fit the pace of the section; I'd replace the slider with a circle. ( I disagree, it follows the vocal and give emphasis to the pattern )
01:08:291 (4,5)- Similar stuff as mentioned previously, there should be a dash between these. That way, you emphasize all vocals equally.
01:10:530 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6)- Similar stuff here, a dash every two notes would fit the vocals really nicely.
01:13:665 (3,4)- Similar stuff here.
01:15:157 (2,3)- Similar stuff here.
01:17:993 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5)- Some distances here don't fit your hitsounding. There should be a dash (or HDash for the strongest) every 2 notes here, as the finish hitsounds suggest.
01:21:277 (1,2)- Again, this should follow the 2-2-2 structure that you've used throughout this previous section.
01:23:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)- Reduce the volume for this stream a bit, please.
01:25:754 (1,2,3,4)- Again, this breaks the 2-2-2 structure you've been using. Make it 6 circles instead and place the dashes consistently with your previous patterns.
01:25:306 (3,4)- Doesn't make sense that you have the finish hitsound with no distance at all. Even some antiflow like you did on 01:24:262 (2,3)- fits better here.

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DeletedUser_6709840 2017-10-24T20:34:52+00:00

Removed taiko because I'm not gonna change the BPM to accommodate taiko

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2017-10-25T19:03:21+00:00

add them back

wonjae

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wonjae 2017-10-27T00:34:55+00:00

add mania 1k instead

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JBHyperion 2017-10-27T17:33:55+00:00

add vitaru

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Xinnoh 2017-10-28T00:14:23+00:00

add voez

ZiRoX

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ZiRoX 2017-10-29T14:05:51+00:00

Aaaand a few last suggestions. Don't kd this.

[Salad]

00:20:381 (3,4) - Either increase the distance or decrease it; it's a bit ambiguous right now.

[Platter]

00:02:321 (6,1) - 00:03:217 (6,1) - These two dashes feel a bit tight, especially considering they also include a direction change. I think you could move 00:02:471 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a bit to the left, maybe x:376.
00:53:515 (4) - I noticed that there's a noticeable trumpet sound in the red tick. Maybe you can use the same idea you used on 00:23:963 (3,4) - to cover both sounds? Also applies for 00:55:306 (2) -, 01:00:679 (2) -

[Rain]

00:32:023 (1,2,3) - This plays rather weird, since the dashes around (2) feel out of place. I suggest you place 00:32:023 (1,2,3,4,5) - like the first screenshot, while moving 00:32:918 (1,2,3,4,5) - like the second:
Image 1
Image 2
As in Platter, on 00:53:515 (4) -, 00:55:306 (2) -, 01:00:679 (2) - the same suggestion applies.

Call me back.

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wonjae 2017-10-29T17:20:16+00:00

made it a dash @zirox

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-10-30T23:24:53+00:00

Applied everything except in Rain. I made one pattern a bit repetitive for the sake of consistency

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-10-31T02:43:11+00:00

Changed one additional pattern in Platter.

Bubbled

Bursthammy

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Bursthammy 2017-10-31T12:46:44+00:00

RoseusJaeger wrote:
Removed taiko because I'm not gonna change the BPM to accommodate taiko

thinking

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-11-02T22:55:11+00:00

Recheck

General

I know I timing checked this ages ago but metronome should be in 4/4, not 3/4, notice how important section starts like 00:04:262 - 00:36:500 - 00:50:829 - etc. aren't big white ticks currently. Ez fix thankfully
Consider lower HS volume before 00:22:172 - by 5-10%, and in the two kiai sections by 15-20%, since they're really overpowering the actual song for me

Cup

Nothing to complain about here

Grapes' Salad

00:20:381 (3,4) - Seems like a pretty forced dash, there's no vocal here and the instrument isn't particularly strong. Making this a walk and adding a circle with dash at 00:21:874 - would fit better and maintain the difficulty here
00:49:933 (5,1) - Yes this is the kiai start but this dash strength is really unexpected, especially after the previous antiflow. Please reduce it a bit
00:53:515 (4,1) - Intended to be walkable? Maybe you wanna rethink this since making a dash will require more spacing
01:00:679 (4,1) - As above ^
01:04:262 (5,1) - 01:12:023 (6,1) - 01:19:187 (3,1) - Similar to 00:49:933 (5,1) - but the natural flow makes these more lenient. I'd still maybe reduce them a tiny bit though

Platter

00:24:859 (1,2) to 00:29:336 (3,1) - NC patterning seems late here for following the vocal, swapping the NCs on these for the start of each vocal stanza sounds better
00:31:724 (4,5) - Seems unnecessary to hyper, similar previous sounds didn't have one and you also kept strong vocal sounds like 00:34:112 (3,4) - as regular dashes too so I'd swap these distances for better emphasis
00:48:888 (6,1) - Yes 1/6 hyper is rankable at this BPM but it's still very easy to overshoot unless you keep the strength down. Try 00:49:038 (1,3) - both at x-384 for a more comfortable flow
00:52:620 (3,4) - Weird that this has a hyper but all similar sounds in the section have regular dashes...
00:59:784 (1,2) - Same ^
01:08:590 (3) - Unnecessary finish hitsound? You already have one on 01:08:739 (4) - 1/6 later so this feels misplaced

Rain

00:22:172 - Pretty huge unbroken 1/6 chain feels a bit plain (and also overemphasizes this calm section for my liking), you could replace some triples like 00:23:963 (1,2,3) - 00:24:859 (1,2,3) - 00:28:441 (1,2,3) - etc. with sliders to provide some variety
01:06:948 (1) - Again you seem to go full 1/6 spam here when you just came out of the kiai, but the first part of this section is super calm i.e. 01:05:157 (1,2,3,4) - which feels really odd... some more long sliders would add nice variety and avoid a long and tiring section

Moment

I probably mentioned this before but is the orange combo colour supposed to have turned pink? Roseus said they fixed but uh it's still there :thinking:
00:50:530 (3) - Not sure why this is a 1/6 slider when the vocal is sharp and 00:49:933 (2) - mapped as 1/3 for the exact same sounds
00:54:299 (3) - 01:17:582 (4) - Fine with these for kick drum but could you reduce the volume on them a little please (either the circle or the slidertail before it)? Your main melody is following the vocal so this rapid 1/8 double kick seems very out of place
01:01:127 (4) - 01:03:068 (5) - 01:08:590 (9) - Unnecessary finish on tail when 01:01:575 (1) - 01:03:366 (1) - 01:08:739 (1) - have head finishes

Ok not much to do, call me back (:

DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-11-03T01:54:21+00:00

So far I've applied the timing fix, and the hitsound volumes. I will apply other hitsounding fixes and my own fixes in my diffs once GDers respond

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-11-03T12:28:27+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
00:50:530 (3) - Not sure why this is a 1/6 slider when the vocal is sharp and 00:49:933 (2) - mapped as 1/3 for the exact same sounds because old sinnoh was a pp mapper

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DeletedUser_6709840

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_6709840 2017-11-03T21:56:22+00:00

Cup
Nothing to complain about here ( good )

Platter
00:24:859 (1,2)to 00:29:336 (3,1)- NC patterning seems late here for following the vocal, swapping the NCs on these for the start of each vocal stanza sounds better ( Hopefully what I did is better now )
00:31:724 (4,5)- Seems unnecessary to hyper, similar previous sounds didn't have one and you also kept strong vocal sounds like 00:34:112 (3,4)- as regular dashes too so I'd swap these distances for better emphasis ( Made it a dash )
00:48:888 (6,1)- Yes 1/6 hyper is rankable at this BPM but it's still very easy to overshoot unless you keep the strength down. Try 00:49:038 (1,3)- both at x-384 for a more comfortable flow (Done)
00:52:620 (3,4)- Weird that this has a hyper but all similar sounds in the section have regular dashes... ( Meh changed )
00:59:784 (1,2)- Same ^ ( Same )
01:08:590 (3)- Unnecessary finish hitsound? You already have one on 01:08:739 (4)- 1/6 later so this feels misplaced ( Fixed )

Rain
00:22:172- Pretty huge unbroken 1/6 chain feels a bit plain (and also overemphasizes this calm section for my liking), you could replace some triples like 00:23:963 (1,2,3)- 00:24:859 (1,2,3)- 00:28:441 (1,2,3)- etc. with sliders to provide some variety ( Did for the places you suggested but now it flows weird imo )
01:06:948 (1)- Again you seem to go full 1/6 spam here when you just came out of the kiai, but the first part of this section is super calm i.e. 01:05:157 (1,2,3,4)- which feels really odd... some more long sliders would add nice variety and avoid a long and tiring section ( There's not violin playing there so I mapped vocal instead. For all the 1/6 i'm following the violin and it's towards the end of the song so it SHOULD be more difficult as the song picks up here. I could argue even for the previous 1/6 spam that it's to prepare the player for the spam after the kiai but I applied the sliders for the sake of a little more simplicity)

Moment
I probably mentioned this before but is the orange combo colour supposed to have turned pink? Roseus said they fixed but uh it's still there :thinking: ( I swear to the gods of mapping if this shit isn't fixed now I'm gonna metaphorically shoot someone )
00:54:299 (3)- 01:17:582 (4)- Fine with these for kick drum but could you reduce the volume on them a little please (either the circle or the slidertail before it)? Your main melody is following the vocal so this rapid 1/8 double kick seems very out of place ( I lowered the 1/8 and 1/16 sounds to 55% )
01:01:127 (4)- 01:03:068 (5)- 01:08:590 (9)- Unnecessary finish on tail when 01:01:575 (1)- 01:03:366 (1)- 01:08:739 (1)- have head finishes ( Removed )

Applied, waiting on Grapes

wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-11-08T08:13:15+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Recheck

Grapes' Salad
00:20:381 (3,4) - Seems like a pretty forced dash, there's no vocal here and the instrument isn't particularly strong. Making this a walk and adding a circle with dash at 00:21:874 - would fit better and maintain the difficulty here made a walk but didnt add circle
00:49:933 (5,1) - Yes this is the kiai start but this dash strength is really unexpected, especially after the previous antiflow. Please reduce it a bit made the slider more lenient for antiflow
00:53:515 (4,1) - Intended to be walkable? Maybe you wanna rethink this since making a dash will require more spacing
01:00:679 (4,1) - As above ^
01:04:262 (5,1) - 01:12:023 (6,1) - 01:19:187 (3,1) - Similar to 00:49:933 (5,1) - but the natural flow makes these more lenient. I'd still maybe reduce them a tiny bit though only changed 01:04:262

Ok not much to do, call me back (:

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JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2017-11-09T23:43:26+00:00

bubbles on fruits on ice

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ZiRoX

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ZiRoX 2017-11-12T20:52:00+00:00

Fixed three sliders in Salad.

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Ascendance

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