Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Benita

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-13T20:31:46+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Thanks for the mod Sorcerer! Unfortunately I forgot some suggestions where I denied but I fixed most of the stuff you wrote. pls dont bully me benny ):

Gonna bully you for life
~~Will update when I'm home~~ updated

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T04:46:59+00:00

Out of nowhere, an MBomb mod.

[Cup]

00:11:139 (1) - The sudden intensity change here calls for more emphasis in my opinion, especially considering it's the introduction of the kiai. x:376 helps to give it that kick.
00:19:320 (1) - Higher distancing for the very strong high pitch vocal here could be nice. x:456 works.
00:35:684 (1,2,3) - Such a small distance to this section is kinda anticlimatic in my opinion. x:408 on this section would feel better.
00:41:139 (1) - Higher distance for sudden vocal pitch change would fit well, maybe do x:136.
01:27:502 (1) - Such small distancing here also doesn't sound very good to me with the song, x:216 would feel a lot nicer to play with the song.
01:52:048 (1) - Pretty strong vocal, stronger distance could be nice, x:176 is fitting.

[Salad]

00:16:593 (1) - Pretty strong sound here, a dash would fit nicely I feel, x:96 maybe?
00:24:775 (2) - That's quite strong distancing for a vocal that isn't even really that strong. x:312 would be more comfortable.
00:32:275 (3) - Pretty strong distancing here too, might want to reduce slightly to like x:216.
00:54:775 (1) - Dash to this could work nicely for the section change and strong vocal to accompany it. Try x:72 with a shape like this.
00:56:480 (4) - Pretty difficult to hit the next note due to the strength of the backforth, maybe try reducing it to like x:184.
00:58:866 (1) - Quite a strong vocal, maybe try a dash to it by moving this to x:88.
01:01:934 (2) - Again, a pretty strong distance backforth, quite difficult to hit for a salad player. Try x:136 instead.
01:02:957 (1) - Dash to this would be really fitting for the strong sound here and section change, x:24 would make it sound really good.
01:05:002 (1) - Pretty strong distancing for a sound which doesn't feel particularly strong compared to other vocals where you have normal distancing. x:104 would be comfortable.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Firstly, I feel as though 1 is a pretty strong vocal, so maybe try something like x:56 to add a dash to it, and secondly, I feel as though the timeline here would better reflect the song if it was a 1/2 repeat slider followed by a circle, to better reflect the vocals here.
01:16:593 (1) - The movement here feels like it should reflect a dash, but the distance is smaller than most dash distances throughout the map, which could throw a player off into thinking this is just a bigger normal movement. x:176 helps to balance out that.
01:24:775 (1) - A dash to this could be nice for the higher pitch vocal emphasis here, x:416 would add in a nice dash I feel.
01:31:592 (1) - I feel as though a dash for this would fit nicely as this is really when the high pitch vocal starts to kick in. x:72 would be a good placement.
01:32:957 (1) - Dash for the start of kiai would be a nice way to emphasise the strong introduction into this section. x:112 fits it well.
01:41:819 (2,1) - I feel like the distancing to 2 right now is a bit strong, and a normal movement would work better to feel nice with the buildup here, so a movement of this section to like, x:464, would be great.
01:56:139 (2) - Not really a fan of how big the distancing to this is, it's not that strong of a note, a smaller distancing would feel nicer to play.

Really nice salad actually! <3

[Platter]

00:54:093 (4) - I think a bigger distance to this would really help to emphasise the drums here more. Maybe try x:424?
01:41:139 (1) - A bit of a strong HDash to this right now. May be better to move the head to x:132 whilst changing the slider to have it end in the same place it currently does, for flow.
01:42:502 (1) - Same as above, except this time move the head to x:176.
01:43:866 (1) - And with this one too, except x:376.
01:47:956 (1) - Could be nice to weaken this HDash a bit to x:196, to make the movements after it slightly more lenient.
01:52:048 (1) - Try to adjust this slider a bit so the tail ends in the same place but the head is at around x:364, the weaker HDash can make flow feel nicer for a platter player.
01:53:410 (1) - Same as above, but x:348 on this one.
02:05:513 (6) - Dash to this feels nice to me as a finisher of the map, considering the high pitch on that note. x:496?

[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440?
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that).
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work.
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it.

Call me back.

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-09-29T06:24:45+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440? okie.
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me. it's so quiet and isnt the focus of this section of the song so i feel like puttting a note here is weird.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that). i see how a hyper could fit but it would play better as either a double dash or hyper into dash and i feel like a hyper into dash would be too uncomfortable and feel odd compared to the rest of the map.
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work. okie
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play. triggering a HDash at this spacing of 1/1 is really hard, and i dont think it fits the previous patterns too well.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely. works fine and really brings out the end of the section.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it. thank you very much. glad to see someone likes it.

Call me back.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T15:19:28+00:00

Everything applied except 02:05:513 (6) - in platter, don't think it fits with a dash here. Direction change is enough.

Thanks for modding!

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-09-29T18:30:04+00:00

I accepted everything. Thanks again mbomb!

when you came back home but benny is kicking my giant lazy ass to accept these 6 suggestion of yours

osu file format v14

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T18:34:36+00:00

All updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T22:20:50+00:00

Rechecking.

[Cup]

00:56:820 (1) - Quite a strong vocal here, the lack of distancing to it feels a little strange, maybe increase it to like x:368.

[Salad]

00:15:230 (1) - A dash to this could be fitting. Try x:224 on this for similar distancing to what you've done for other 1/2 dashes in the map.
01:09:093 (1) - Dash to this for the strong vocal would also be pretty nice, try x:56 with a different curve to keep flow afterwards the same.
01:19:320 (1) - A pretty strong non-dash distancing to this as it is now. Reducing it a bit, to x:320, would be a lot more comfortable for a salad player.

Other 2 diffs seem fine to me.

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-09-30T07:38:07+00:00

accepted

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-30T10:00:58+00:00

all applied and all updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-30T19:26:20+00:00

Went through some minor changes to dash movements in IRC, I think everything's fine now.

Bubbled <3

lupuGG

34 posts

Joined April 2015

lupuGG 2017-10-01T12:51:58+00:00

shitmap benny is girl pls no rank girl is objective they do not associate with ranking criteria aka man, i miss 1 note omg very bad!
jk <3 gl with rank

Electoz

1,886 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-10-05T03:50:35+00:00

Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case.

[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho?
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out.
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal.
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz)
00:48:638 (1) - ^
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) .
01:34:320 (3) - NC
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 .
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above.

[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different.
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) .
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted.
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those

00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC?
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure.
00:38:752 (3) - ^
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) .
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) .
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-10-05T11:18:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol I can try finding one lmao
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. Can put it in description but here: http://projectmili.com/miracle-milk

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out. ok
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal. ok
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz) eh mostly cause of variation, but platter has jumps and stuff surrounding the sliders where Salad doesn't really offer much so I thought it was cool to add some variation amongs the sliders instead
00:48:638 (1) - ^ same as above
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) . ok
01:34:320 (3) - NC ok
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 . ok
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above. the vocal isn't the same as above and the usage of 1/1 sliders is for the buildup for the kiai reset
[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc but why? do all sliders have to be the same
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho ehhh that's because the hitsounds were added AFTER the map was finished... I think it's a cute hitsound but I don't really think the change in the music is noticeable enough to make a drastical change but if you have something in mind please do tell me!
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different. added a repeat like that before the bell hitsound so now I have a valid reason for it being there and we can call it consistent!!!
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) . 00:52:729 - is a lot more intense of a sound than 00:48:638 -
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted. ok
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those if you listen to where I put the whistles, that's the beats i was emphasising, they're placed on the background piano cause i think a simple dash on every 1/2 slider is boring :3
00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional I guess i fixed them

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously. same

Thanks for the mod! Will update once the GD'ers apply!

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-10-05T12:27:18+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho? I'll keep it because it requires some kind of variety.
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

No replies means accepted. Thanks for a check! https://puu.sh/xQzVs/06be331332.osu

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-10-05T21:01:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. ;w;

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC? NC as it currently is makes more sense, since it starts at the vocal phrase la la la.
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning makes more sense to NC on the vocal emphasis since the mapping is tailoring to the vocals at that part.
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure. seems fine
00:38:752 (3) - ^ seems good
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) . those instances have more spacing because of the emphasis on the notes following the sliders from vocals and instruments. that particular point doesnt need that emphasis so i would rather keep it a walk.
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) . A dash could make sense here but i would rather not,
i like what the pattern brings in term of variety to the map.
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders. it was intentional. it marks the emphasis on the 3rd note because of the vocals. the other instances you pointed out are different because of either the emphasis at that moment wasnt strong enough to warrant a dash or the patterns following would have the section have too many hyperdashes and fitting a rain of this SR, i would rather keep the hypers fair with only so many in rapid succession unless the part is emphasized for intensity or the music calls for it.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc given the design choice of this section, it wouldnt make sense to add distance to those notes. those notes are meant to be walked. the patterns you compared them to were 4 1/2 notes then a dash which is different from the patterns with 3 1/2 notes then a dash. I did this differently to add variety to the ending which would just be boring 1/2 slider spam with the same dash patterns.
Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Yay for probation. .-.

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