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jieusieu

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-07-05T08:16:11+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
standard

01:16:345 - 01:16:885 - 01:33:642 - 01:34:183 - etc. using finishes on tails is counterproductive and really not a good idea in these cases, please, consider removing 'em

that's a good point. thank you for checking

adv

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Last edited by jieusieu 2017-07-05T12:25:24+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-07-05T12:21:56+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
after 2 weeks z

!!

Normal

01:29:588 (3,5) - ew this overlap I understand the pattern might be confused for players. but, I think it's enough visible. and, I should change the patterns which is connected to this pattern if i change this pattern. - nah, it's not going to confuse anyone whatsoever, i testplayed the pattern many times. it's not about playability, it's about how awkwardly it looks, how it doesn't match anything else on the map ok then fixed it
Hyper

01:19:858 (4,5) - visuals I have denied changing it for a while, since I don't see it's a problem and I like it! - again, this looks terrible, avoid it, even if you have to sacrifice some distance i finally fixed it
01:36:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - WARNING! THIS IS A HUGE DIFFICULTY SPIKE THAT INVOLVES A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CLICKABLE CIRCLES, MAKING IT WAY TOO HARD FOR A DIFFICULTY THAT IS BUILT AROUND SLIDERS. If you do not want to get arrested, please consider nerfing this. It's for the proper spread between standard and another. the set would have spread issue if I nerf this. - another http://i.imgur.com/diuzxKf.jpg vs hyper http://i.imgur.com/57AWGql.jpg . do you understand why is it a difficulty splke? it's unrankable LOL, i still don't see any problem here though! it's funny to see the word "UNRANKABLE" here while it's even not violating the rules. i do not believe that natsu is a baka who not checking whether it's unrankable issue. i agree the part in hyper diff is filled out with many circles and might be more excessive than another. but, the part in another is also filled out with many objects and has huge jump which even couldn't be compared to the part in hyper. i am sure that the part in another is absolutely harder, more insane than hyper. i believe you would be understanding with this.
Another

beautiful!!!!!!!!

01:18:642 (4) - 01:27:291 (4) - these 2 kill momentum quite a bunch that's fine for this diff imo :O - you know, the problem is that there is absolutely nothing in the music. there's nothing. look at the other difficulties, nobody mapped it because there is absolutely no reason to do so it was really really really really really really really really really really really really really really a little sound though, i could hear something there.

additional things:

normal

01:49:048 (1,2) - vs 01:57:696 (1,2) - yeah, the second rhythm makes more sense fixed

hyper

01:40:669 - aren't you missing a drum sampleset? nah, i didn't aim to set drum sampleset here as you could see the same part in another.

[]

call me back again!!! please come back right now

thanks

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-07-05T19:08:54+00:00

that's not unrankable enon o.o, just fix if you agree with him

Yuii-

2,503 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-07-05T21:13:14+00:00

of course it's not unrankable; but you'd be surprised by the amount of people you can trick if you tell them it's "unrankable". let me spoil you: everyone changes it

there's like... what? 2/3 "unrankable" issues when placing objects? hell, even a terrible-looking map can get qualified and it'll have nothing "unrankable" on it, other than the fact that it /will/ look really bad. i'm not saying this map looks bad at all, because it really is a good map... but it has that one problem

problem being is that pattern IS an issue, something i really cannot ignore. why though? because it's a difficulty spike on hyper and it's a spike in terms of the spread, it hurts that there's so many clickable objects, it'll throw people off because the map is nowhere near /that/ hard

i'm fine with the rest of the changes

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-07-06T01:27:23+00:00

01:40:669 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I have fixed this part very slightly
cuz this was not a good flow D;
this may not be a big improvement over the previous one lul

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Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-07-06T01:37:55+00:00

thanks for posting, beom

i just realized how dense 01:39:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is, and i don't really understand what are you following compared to the rest of the map
well, i do understand what are you following with individual objects, but as a whole, it is really inconsistent with the rest of the map

this is what you would normally do http://i.imgur.com/I0jy30G.jpg , but you are mapping it in a complete different way, more clickable-heavy compared to the rest. for reference, 01:13:372 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:22:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:29:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:31:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - etc etc

Beomsan

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Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-07-06T02:13:53+00:00

@Yuii-
that's just simple thing to me.
01:36:075 - The "change" starts here, I think this can explain most things.
that means I think I don't need to remain consistent on 01:39:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this place. because it has already made a big difference before.
also, 01:14:048 - 01:14:318 - / 01:22:696 - 01:22:967 - etc / and 01:39:994 - 01:40:264 - there is a difference in volume and Intensity of sound(?) between these things I guess. I can quite clearly distinguish it.

The most important thing is that I have a lot of interest to the changes in the sounds of this part. I can never express this part as basic(or normal) way.
umm... so I'll not consider consistency in this part, I guess.

thanks