1. Easy (2,62 stars, 111 notes)
2. Hard (4,84 stars, 263 notes)
3. Insane (4,94 stars, 453 notes)
4. Normal (3,85 stars, 148 notes)

akrolsmir wrote:

General:
I felt there were too many combos, coming every three or sometimes even 2 notes. Especially for hard, where I think combos of 6-10 are approximately right, whereas it's more acceptable in easy and normal. I know double digits are acceptable, but music changes and I tried to match the music with the combos. Also, I think one big section in the middle of small ones doesn't fit, thus the massive new combo fest.

Easy:
00:32:400 (1) - Not new combo? Alright, NC removed.
01:30:000 (1) - ^ ^

Normal:
00:42:000 (1) - Not new combo? I prefer to leave it, just because of the cosmetic reasons, it acts as a "bridge" which connects the combos which are in between this one.
01:46:800 (3) - Straight side looks too close to (2), move 2 grids right Nah, it may look too close, but the endpoint forms a triangle with (2) and endpoint of (1).

Hard:

Not new combos:

00:03:900 (1) - Not NC?
00:10:800 (1) - ^ I prefer it to leave it as NC simply because it's different than other sections
00:13:200 (1) - ^ ^
00:15:600 (1) - ^ ^
00:18:000 (1) - ^ ^
00:42:000 (1) - ^ To make it equal to the sections around this, this new combo is necessary for consistency, also it plays nice with TAG.
00:44:400 (1) - ^ ^
00:49:200 (1) - ^ ^
00:51:600 (1) - ^ ^
01:01:500 (1) - ^ Consistency, as the beginning also has a NC there. Following the music, the NC fits if you ask me.
01:08:400 (1) - ^ Same as couple of lines above.
01:10:800 (1) - ^ ^
01:13:200 (1) - ^ ^
01:15:600 (1) - ^ ^
01:30:000 (1) - ^ Done, good catch.
01:37:200 (1) - ^ Consistency. Needs a NC.
01:39:600 (1) - ^ ^
01:42:000 (1) - ^ ^

00:43:950 (3) - Move midpoint 1 grid right 1 down to be parallel to (4). Yep, done.

Insane:
This is probably outside the range of what I"m comfortable with in terms of playing.
Looked fine at a glance over, the NC's help with determining what to hit.

I really liked the progressive level of difficulty, the rise felt very even. Hard was particularly suited for me. Also, your sliders are very, very neat.
Star + Kudostar! Big thanks.

Edit: Do you do mod4mod? If so, could you take a look at http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27625? Feel free to nazi, I'd encourage it. I'll check it out soon.

LaunchedthousandShip wrote:

I dont really think you need more mods, so I only give you something more about styles and nazi

Hard
01:37:650 - add note Good catch, this also makes it consistent with the next section which is very similar. Thanks.

Insane
00:48:300 (3) - I would like to break it into two sliders Nah, I think the repeating slider is good here because of the fast pacing of the map.
01:10:050 (4) - I would like to leave it blank, no note here I will leave this note here, it follows the beat in the background which this section is mostly focusing on (streams especially).

No kds plz. Nah, I think you deserve it, you caught something which wasn't easy to catch and makes it better.

loveFantasy wrote:

hi~

[Easy]
- start the KIAI fountain at the exact point where spinner end will be better Why? It's a silent part. The kiai starts when the chorus starts, perfectly fine reason for a kiai. Thanks for suggestion though, but I will not do this.
<01:44:400> remove this green line Fixed.

[Normal]
<00:37:200> (4,5,1) i will say clap,clap,finish or x,x,finish (4) has to have a finish, because at this spot all other diffs have it, 5 is actually not really necessary but i think it sounds nice. Can't put a finish on 1 because it has to be a whistle, not only cause of the parts that come after, but it's like that in all other diffs.

[Hard]
<01:52:800> (S) why it's without hitsound when every other diff has one? Fixed.

[Insane]
- AR9 is a bit tough, esp. with those reverse jump at the starting part AR8 makes the map difficult to read. AR9 is necessary for this kind of a speedy map. Those jumps are easier to read with AR9 than AR8 if you ask me.
<00:45:600> (1,2,3,4) why you use 1/3s when background instrument is 1/4?
<00:51:000> (8,9) ^
<00:55:200> (1,2,3,4) ^, and don't spam whistle on these imo
- same thing in second KIAI Explained already.

star, Thanks.

Backfire wrote:

...CAN I MAKE A TAIKO!? PREETY PLEASE?! D: I love super meat boy more than anything in the whole wide world and this is my favorite song off the soundtrack ;-; Unless you dont want one T-T

lolcubes wrote:

Backfire wrote:

...CAN I MAKE A TAIKO!? PREETY PLEASE?! D: I love super meat boy more than anything in the whole wide world and this is my favorite song off the soundtrack ;-; Unless you dont want one T-T

Personally I don't think taiko could be possible but if you think you can do it, go right ahead. :3
I don't really know anything about taiko anyway.

theowest wrote:

Try to replace the clap with something more related to the actual clap you can hear in the song. Sorry but the claps are staying unless I get some really good custom hitsound.
And please... Have custom colours for this beatmap! I tried, but due to dark BG monochrome combo colors would be either hard on the eyes (especially if using the default skin) or would be too dark to play normally. Default colors work fine on a black background and I will not change this.

Easy:

SPOILER

00:39:000 - Remove clap
00:39:900 - Add clap
00:41:400 - Remove clap
00:44:700 - Add clap
00:49:500 - ^
00:51:000 - Remove clap
00:52:200 - ^
00:52:800 - No need to make 'em sound this weird. I don't like how they sound here.
01:27:000 - ^
01:27:300 - Add clap
01:29:400 - Remove clap
01:29:700 - Add clap
01:30:300 - ^
01:30:900 - ^
01:32:100 - ^
01:36:600 - Remove clap
01:36:900 - Add clap
01:37:500 - ^
01:39:000 - Remove clap
01:40:500 - Add clap
01:41:100 - ^
01:41:400 - Remove clap
01:41:700 - Add clap
01:42:300 - ^
01:42:600 - Remove clap
01:42:900 - Add clap
01:47:100 - ^
01:48:600 - Remove clap
01:49:500 - Add clap
01:50:400 - No need to make 'em sound this weird. I don't like how they sound here.

Normal:

SPOILER

Replace the current

Bookmarks:

with this new

Bookmarks: 38700,39300,39900,40500,41100,41700,42300,42900,43500,44100,44700,45300,45900,46500,47100,47700,48300,48900,49500,50100,50700,51300,51900,52500,53100,53700,54300,54900,55500,56100,56700,57300,86700,87300,87900,88500,89100,89700,90300,90900,91500,92100,92700,93300,93900,94500,95100,95700,96300,96900,97500,98100,98700,99300,99900,100500,101100,101700,102300,102900,103500,104100,104700,105300,105900,106500,107100,107700,108300,108900,109500,110100,110700,111300,111900,112500,113100,113700,114300,114900

It shows where you should add the claps. Remove all the other claps not placed there. And as in easy, don't make it sound weird in any place for 00:52:800 and 01:50:400. Remember to do this for all difs.

Hard:

Same as normal, please.

None of the hitsound changes will be made, sorry, all hitsounds are intended to be like they are now.

Insane:

This is unrankable unless you do something about it. It's too hard. 200 bpm and so many streams? Dude.. No. + The distance is quite big. Eh? Why would this be unrankable? I've seen ranked maps which are harder than this one. It's using 1.0x distance scale (1.4 in some cases and 2.0 for lolultrajumps which are easy to hit) so I don't understand how can that be a big distance. The stream itself is using 0.6x.

00:32:325 - Remove beat, no need for triplet here. Listen to the music. It's clear that there is a drum hitting in between the guitar notes, thus the triplet.
00:51:000 - 8 and 9, make them 1/4 sliders so it sounds correctly to the beat. Done
00:52:800 - NOOO. This is very long 200 bpm stream! Way out of ranking... I recommend using a bunch of sliders going back and forth to replace this madness. That would make it boring, besides the stream is using 0.6x spacing and it's not that hard to hit. Granted it's 200bpm, but 200bpm shouldn't be too hard to hit (I am an average player and at times I can full 300 it ;_;).
00:55:200 - Make them 1/4 not 1/3... So this is how I want 00:52:800 to be.. No deathstream. Made them 1/4. They sound better as 1/3 to me though. ;_;
01:29:775 - I don't see why there's need for a beat here? Remove it. There is no beat on this timeline. ;_;
01:43:200 - 1/4. Done
01:48:600 - ^ Done
01:50:400 - Same as before dude... Stream is stream.
01:52:800 - 1/4 Done

Well. That's a few things I would like you to change. If you want to reply, do it by PM:ing me (with all this + your text). Not by quoting me.
No need to reply, just quoting here for others to know what got changed and what didn't.

Good luck with your beatmap! Very good! Thanks.

theowest wrote:

This is unrankable unless you do something about it. It's too hard. 200 bpm and so many streams? Dude.. No. + The distance is quite big.

1. remake the Taiko BG, there is some issue you can find immediately in testing.
   
2. source: Super Meat Boy!
3. the timing is a bit off, but it's already 0 and need -21 ms, so use audition to add some blank(2500ms is ok) to the beginning of your mp3, remove the audio lean-in if you do this (and the offset is 2479ms then)

1. 00:55:200 (1) - add note here and start the spinner at 00:55:275.
2. 01:52:800 (1) - ^

1. I'm not a taiko player, but this is not fitting the music well, at least the soft parts in this song are overmapped imo

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:

1. remake the Taiko BG, there is some issue you can find immediately in testing. Uh default skin looked normal. Anyway, fixed so both default and taiko skin look normal.
   
   SPOILER

   
2. source: Super Meat Boy! Exclamation point added. Exclamation point removed after re-checking the source. The correct official name doesn't contain it.
3. the timing is a bit off, but it's already 0 and need -21 ms, so use audition to add some blank(2500ms is ok) to the beginning of your mp3, remove the audio lean-in if you do this (and the offset is 2479ms then) The track is from the original album so the timing can't be wrong (0 offset). I understand that this varies from person to person but most people who playtested this had the alright timing. I will consider this in the future if more complaints arise.Recently going with new global offset settings and now I notice this as well. I have re-encoded the original mp3 and it should be alright now with new offset (46).

[Hard]:

1. 00:55:200 (1) - add note here and start the spinner at 00:55:275. Done.
2. 01:52:800 (1) - ^ Done.

[Taiko]:

1. I'm not a taiko player, but this is not fitting the music well, at least the soft parts in this song are overmapped imo Leaving this to Backfire. I suppose he was trying to follow the keyboard melody here which is very fast but silent.

star~ Thanks.

Colin Hou wrote:

[Taiko]:

1. I'm not a taiko player, but this is not fitting the music well, at least the soft parts in this song are overmapped imo

star~

Backfire wrote:

Colin Hou wrote:

[Taiko]:

1. I'm not a taiko player, but this is not fitting the music well, at least the soft parts in this song are overmapped imo

star~

I was mapping the soft parts as well as the fast parts. You're not really supposed to have breaks or anything in taiko, usually, so it wasnt exactly overmapped. I just put alot of content in, to make it fun.

kurohacker wrote:

Hi there~
Well, I had a run-through with your maps, but I can't find anything major inside....
All I can say is:

[General]
About the combo colours, the reds look almost exactly alike. Maybe change one of them to different colour?
Also, I think 4 colours are nicer here instead of 5....Hmm, I didn't tick any colors, even though you may see more for whatever reason, the maps use the default color template (4 colors). Red is red, there are no 2 reds. :3

[Hard]
Hmm, I can't find anything, maybe except the streams at 0:52:800 and 1:50:400.
The rhythm of the hitsounds is fine, but the non-clap notes feel rather quiet. Just my opinion. That part is intended to be more quiet, all the more reason why I made it into soft sample set.

[Backfire's Super Taiko]
Hmmm, this one feels quite fine, but I'm not really confident about my Taiko modding skills.
Try asking experts like wmfchris, lepidopodus or OzzyOzrock for their opinions.

The black name rectangle below the Taiko stream field is a bit too far from the bottom of the grey field, hope you can fix this. Do you mind screenshotting this? Because on both default skin and taiko skin this looks fine to me in 1024x768 windowed. I already had complaints about the taiko BG having some issues with the position of the gray bar, so your picture would say more than a thousand words. :3

Apart from that,
1:00:600 [188] - k Leaving this to Backfire.

You know, the maps here are so perfect it's scary! I hope the BATs will rank this as soon as all the mods, here and the others, are applied.
Here's a star for good luck~ Thanks. :3
I'm expecting this one to be ranked soon, all the best in getting a bubble!

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

heya~

General
I don't like the claps. Would be much better if you'd use them for the rythm, instead of highlighting some stuff-
A simple 2/1 pattern is always the best. And of course, synchronize it with the music. Bla. Well I used claps mostly for some key beats in the music. Maybe it doesn't fit perfectly but I am using default hit sounds for this mapset so... :S I don't have anything cool for those moments so leaving claps for now, they don't sound that bad imo.

Insane
AR 9? Whaaa... Yep, it's highly necessary though else the notes become unreadable later on.
00:52:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - DAT STREAM, I mean we're talking about 200 BPM here...Yeah well, I guess high bpm streams are popular nowadays. Personally I think everything up to 220 is fine, but a 300BPM just got ranked a few days ago. (and yes it has streams)
Can't find anything in here, and I don't feel like nazi'ing. Well, that's nice to hear atleast.

Hard
What a huge difficulty jump from Insane. Of course the map's fine, but it could be a little better if you'd add a couple of jumps :3 Hmm I don't think would be a good idea. Even though the gap is bigger than normal, that's mostly because of 200bpm, people who can play up to hard would find this incredibly hard if I did this I think.
01:42:600 (2) - let the end of dat slider stack on 01:41:850 (4) ? Done. Curved it a bit because I want it to point towards (1) without moving it.

Ahh... crap... can't find anything... though I want you to re-do the claps... geh...

dkun wrote:

key:
fix me!
just a suggestion
comment/compliment

General
I don't quite agree with how you shaped your sliders throughout the diffset, but that's probably because I like symmetry.

Insane
I doubt this needs AR9, but that's completely up to you. It does. I can't even pass it with AR8. ;_;
00:01:950 (1,2,1,2,1) - this is quite confusing to read, especially how you have the new combos setup.This is an advanced pattern, the new combos are semi-necessary to sight read the pattern. Fast reactions would force you to move 1-2 1-2 and then 1. I suppose I could drop new combos here, but I doubt it would be readable unless really looked into this.
^ 00:02:550 (1) - remove new combo perhaps? Yep this combo needs to be here to avoid really confusing spacing of the advanced pattern.
00:06:900 (1,2,1,2,1) - i'd say the same for this, but i'll leave it for you to decide.Replied above.

Hard
01:10:800 (1,2) - move into the grid It's fine as it is. Look here. They don't even come close to the edge of the screen while playing.
01:43:200 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - unless this was crooked on purpose, you should fix it into a perfect cross. Fixed.

Normal and Easy seem fine to me, and I don't mod Taiko.
You have my star!Thanks!.

Miu Matsuoka wrote:

[Overall]
Offset is -25ms off. (Please use an audio editor to add a 25ms long silence at the front of the soundtrack) Already done but I didn't do a full submit. Oops. give me a sec. (18ms was added actually) I decided to re-encode the original mp3 instead. It's better quality now and has a different offset.
Others looks fine, I especially love the sliders

[Easy]
00:16:800 (1) - 2nd point: x:312 y:292 Fixed.

[Normal]
Looks nice~

[Hard]
00:06:750 (6) - Whistle (1st reverse & End) ? Nah, I know that whistles are trying to follow the background keyboard, however completely covering it would result in a heavy whistle overuse, so I only added it in certain patterns to make it more interesting.

[Insane]
00:52:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Use a smaller distance snap? x_x
01:14:850 (3) - Delete? Uh, there is nothing on this timeline, you sure you didn't add it yourself by mistake? :3 Maybe I should wake up before applying the mods next time. ;_;
01:50:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - lol never mind x_x

GOGOGO RANK!:3

Miu Matsuoka wrote:

Hmmm, there's actually sth here

Louis Cyphre wrote:

- tags are not same in all diffs. Check Taiko difficulty please. It's not necessary since there is Backfire in the difficulty name.
- Hmm set audio lead-in to 2454? If you are going to fix that, open difficulty with notepad and find "AudioLeadIn:". I'm saying 2454, cz your offset is 46. 46 + 2454 = 2500. For perfectness :3 (xD) Will be done, recently changed mp3 which had 0 offset.
- You have taiko BG in your folder, set it in taiko BG, it seems that you forgot to do that. Oops, thanks, fixed now.
- any SB element must be under 800x600. Your SB element has 1024 x 768 One element is allowed to have 1024x768 if it's a background (which it is) afaik. Made it 800x600.

[Easy]
00:04:846 (1) - offscreen slider. This can make troubles during ctb mod please replace it. This is how it looks in ctb, doesn't look wrong to me. It's not exactly offscreen but it's very close to the edge, and currently it's a bit hard to position it properly if it's not like this. I will keep it as it is for now unless a MAT or BAT tells me it's unrankable. Okay, I fiddled around with some positions and came up with a solution. It shouldn't be near the edge that much anymore.

[Normal]
Well made. Just a small suggestion: discrease AR by 1 tick? Nah I like it the way it is now, thanks for the suggestion though.

[Insane]
I was so happy when i saw easy normal and hard... uh.

Well first of all i highly suggest to remap this moments:
00:06:847
00:01:967
00:08:971
http://puu.sh/1Jxl
Really hard to read, AR9 makes it more unreadable. AR9 is really necessary though, any 200+ bpm map with AR8 or lower will have so much stuff on screen that it's not playable.
^Nah there are like that on purpose. They may look confusing but they aren't that bad. It's a really tricky pattern but it's not impossible to sightread. Also, how did you get those timelines? Remapped to a more standard pattern. It's still hard and uses slightly bigger spacing but easier to read.

01:29:146 (2) - spacing. i'm sure 99% of players will miss there. Spacing is fine. New combo helps immensely (back to 1.0 distance instead of 1.4). I haven't seen people missing this yet though.
01:35:896 - again unreadable thing. Nah it's perfectly readable, atleast to me and a couple of others who playtested this.

Better to ask players to play it. This difficulty has so many confused patterns, go through the map and try to fix it. Well the patterns are intentional and the map is quite hard. Already had about 6 different people playtest this for me, and noone had any problems with reading (apart from 5 of those who missed the first "confusing" pattern in the map because it was a "wtf" moment, but they got it right on next try). The 6th one was Niko- so... (he fced it first try )Now I need to find new testing bunnies! - ok some players of my level tested this and they had absolutely no problems in reading these patterns on the first try now. I will leave them like they are now.

Star ~ Thanks. :3

Garven wrote:

As per your request:

[General]

[Easy]
00:48:646 (1) - Kind of soon after a spinner for an easy... but it might work okay if you put it near the center of the screen so it's easier to aim for. Fixed.
00:58:246 (1) - ^ Fixed.

[Backfire's Super Taiko]
Add Backfire to tags Fixed.
This... seems pretty ridiculous. Just sayin' Dunno what to say, people who play taiko say it's fine. :p

[Insane]
00:08:746 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - People with default hitbursts are gonna hate you for that, haha Uh that's fine, before it was a much harder pattern here so I changed to this. Noone got it wrong yet though (from the people who i gave this to test).
00:32:296 (5,6,1) - These look really misaligned due to the stacking of 00:32:146 (4,2,4,6) - along with it just being placed off anyway. It was intended to be slightly off, but I remade the pattern. No stacking here anymore.
01:49:396 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really don't like this pattern. Doesn't play very well to me. Nah I will leave this one, it's not really complicated and it returns to a proper place to start the stream at.

Solid maps for the ENH. Taiko feels over-done, and Insane.. well, it fits the difficulty title, that's for sure. Keeping up that fast of a stream for so long is pretty damned tough, though.Can't really say much about taiko as I know nothing about it, but the stream shouldn't be too much of a problem considering it's only like 3 seconds long (32 notes @200bpm), also there are far more insane maps out there.