Jeff Williams - Red Like Roses Part I & II (Edited Version) · forum

Kaifin

Joined April 2013

Kaifin 2016-09-26T02:33:39+00:00

u cut the most anime part of the song

unsnapped lolz 03:35:071 (1)
01:06:806 - 01:08:520 - consider reducing this volume a little, a bit jarring imo
01:31:268 (1,3) - in case u care about nazi
SPOILER
01:43:458 (2,1) - this overlap is kinda killin the aes for me, could be so clean if you seperate, you could even blanket properly with 01:41:640 (6) for the throwbak revisting this after looking at the whole map theres stuff lik this all over this one just stuck out to me, feel free to ignore if thats what you were going for
02:58:193 (1,1) - FUCK me
SPOILER
03:07:193 (1,2,1,2) - though it doesnt seem like the intention, this is very very difficulty to read, i'd recommend adding at least a slight overlap to 03:07:193 (1,1), if not fully separating the notes, it plays so unintuitively as of rn, this is the only difficult pattern i missed on sightread and i completely flubbed it a few times before memorizing

perhaps stacking 03:07:193 (1) - with 03:06:593 (1) ? solves my issues with the pattern, keeps the aesthetic and fixes the playability
03:28:214 (1) - uneven if that was your intention which i will assume it was bc of the following placements
03:29:357 (5) - wouldnt it make sense with your current aesthetic to either stack this note or fully seperate it? the overlap is kinda eh for me, there's no real reason to change it for playability i was just curious of why
03:32:786 (1,3) -
SPOILER
03:46:627 (2,3,4,5,6) - this was neat
04:13:341 (1) - im pretty fine with all of the slider flow until here, but this played really bad for me, i think its the lack of movement, at least when comparing to the good flow of 04:32:199 (1) - which we see later, the same concept working a lot better there, i'd alter the shape to give it a touch more horizontal movement at the start (remember 2 mirror by changing 04:13:341 (1) - as well: the movement here felt ok but its really apparent how awkward it is when you flipped it vertically)
04:37:913 - this sounded really really off as soft hit
04:42:627 (1,2) - i kno its for structure but consider spacing nerf? its kinda weird to have such a jump in this segment, at least before you start ramping it up, this is like the biggest jump in the slow section lol
04:53:056 (1,3,4) - triangle my ashol
04:54:056 (1,2) - ok i know that she slurs her words here because shes drunk or something but it plays weird so i'd just 1/2 it like the others, doesnt sound that unfitting to me

sometimes the kicks in part 1 are a little fast feeling, that's only awkward with that weird unreadable overlap pattern tho

1 -------> 2

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Sing 2016-09-26T02:44:33+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
[notice]
u cut the most anime part of the song xd
[list]unsnapped lolz 03:35:071 (1) cant actually fix this, it snaps to the previous red tick but not the one its actually on, and i dont wanna mess up the timing so :/ also its a slider end so doesnt rlly matter i think
01:06:806 - 01:08:520 - consider reducing this volume a little, a bit jarring imo fixed
01:31:268 (1,3) - in case u care about nazi
SPOILER
fixed
01:43:458 (2,1) - this overlap is kinda killin the aes for me, could be so clean if you seperate, you could even blanket properly with 01:41:640 (6) for the throwbak revisting this after looking at the whole map theres stuff lik this all over this one just stuck out to me, feel free to ignore if thats what you were going for fixed the one aes, idk if there are oters so yolo xd
02:58:193 (1,1) - FUCK me
SPOILER
fixed
03:07:193 (1,2,1,2) - though it doesnt seem like the intention, this is very very difficulty to read, i'd recommend adding at least a slight overlap to 03:07:193 (1,1), if not fully separating the notes, it plays so unintuitively as of rn, this is the only difficult pattern i missed on sightread and i completely flubbed it a few times before memorizing made 03:07:493 (1) - not overlap anymor, shud b easier

perhaps stacking 03:07:193 (1) - with 03:06:593 (1) ? solves my issues with the pattern, keeps the aesthetic and fixes the playability
03:28:214 (1) - uneven if that was your intention which i will assume it was bc of the following placements fixed
03:29:357 (5) - wouldnt it make sense with your current aesthetic to either stack this note or fully seperate it? the overlap is kinda eh for me, there's no real reason to change it for playability i was just curious of why well did the same overlap for the point 2 above this one now, so shud b fine
03:32:786 (1,3) -
SPOILER
fixed
03:46:627 (2,3,4,5,6) - this was neat
04:13:341 (1) - im pretty fine with all of the slider flow until here, but this played really bad for me, i think its the lack of movement, at least when comparing to the good flow of 04:32:199 (1) - which we see later, the same concept working a lot better there, i'd alter the shape to give it a touch more horizontal movement at the start (remember 2 mirror by changing 04:13:341 (1) - as well: the movement here felt ok but its really apparent how awkward it is when you flipped it vertically) k changed

thx for mod, updated now and will wait for fuccho

melon boy

278 posts

Joined August 2013

melon boy 2016-09-26T18:43:50+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
u cut the most anime part of the song
04:42:627 (1,2) - i kno its for structure but consider spacing nerf? its kinda weird to have such a jump in this segment, at least before you start ramping it up, this is like the biggest jump in the slow section lol I tried xd. I can't decrease it much more without disliking the look of the pattern but I don't think it felt that difficult to begin with either.
04:53:056 (1,3,4) - triangle my ashol fixed kinda! It wasn't really supposed to be a triangle from the start, but I guess it came a little too close to actually being one.
04:54:056 (1,2) - ok i know that she slurs her words here because shes drunk or something but it plays weird so i'd just 1/2 it like the others, doesnt sound that unfitting to me eh, I think it's fine. It fits the vocals, it's readable and I like the look of the pattern.

thx!

Update (only hitobjects since I didn't change anything else

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Also, Sing, remember to hitsound the parts you change xd

ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

771 posts

Joined September 2013

ProfessionalBox 2016-10-13T20:35:17+00:00

s

00:39:806 (1) - Can improve shape unless intentional
01:07:235 (1) - same here imo
01:15:827 - I'd make this clickable and shorten the slider to blue tick
01:23:014 - same
01:23:464 - maybe here too
you get the idea for the upcoming ones too
02:03:686 (1,2,3) - maybe NC on all of these because the distance is deceiving
02:12:086 (2) - This is

maybe ctrl + g idk
02:27:167 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - you spin me right round
02:55:793 (1,1) - Why does this overlap exist?
03:07:804 (1) - Feels super weird ending this part over here. I'd go down in the centre like the previous one's it would make more sense patternwise imo. If there was stuff after this then it'd be fine but it's just weird as it is
03:53:199 (1,2) - swap NCs around
04:09:913 (1) - Angles ccould be improved unless intentional
04:18:056 (5) - NC
04:39:056 - vocals start at 4min 40sec okay
04:54:056 (1,2) - 1/3 rhythm doesn't work here imo it's too random and out of place
05:24:627 (5,1) - Hello distance (seriously nerf it since it comes out of nowhere)
05:40:341 (5) - NC

mod done

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Sing 2016-10-13T23:47:14+00:00

updated, took in all suggestions except shortening the sliders at the part near the start and nc'ing the star, because the long sliders fit the symmetry and calmness of that part of the song and for the nc ecause it breaks the flowpoints of the star

also colorhaxed and changed bg xd

zyoi

631 posts

Joined May 2014

zyoi 2016-10-14T16:59:48+00:00

hello, come for m4m! https://osu.ppy.sh/s/495222

[General]
Unused hitsound: soft-hitfinish.wav
Timeing lines: 01:43:913 - volume level , 02:46:193 - rea line has to add kiai , 03:35:071 - too
Hitsound delay: normal-finish.wav

dl here

[Fuccing]
01:38:762 (1,2) - put those closer? looks like the same spacing with 01:37:850 (1,2) -
03:02:843 (1) - remove nc and 03:02:993 (3) - add
04:12:770 (1) - off-screen

ok idk xd gl

melon boy

278 posts

Joined August 2013

melon boy 2016-10-14T17:57:20+00:00

ProfessionalBox wrote:
s

04:54:056 (1,2) - 1/3 rhythm doesn't work here imo it's too random and out of place Fixed
05:24:627 (5,1) - Hello distance (seriously nerf it since it comes out of nowhere) Changed the pattern a bit
05:40:341 (5) - NC Same reason as Sing, also to keep consistency

mod done

Update

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43,193,347341,2,0,B|101:177|101:177|159:202,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
413,288,347627,54,0,B|324:304|324:304|275:349|275:349|186:365,1,246.999988693238,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
32,54,348056,2,0,B|120:70|120:70|169:115|169:115|258:131,1,246.999988693238,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
40,349,348484,2,0,L|58:215,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,21,348770,53,0,1:0:0:0:
366,181,348913,2,0,B|424:196|424:196|482:171,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
466,34,349199,2,0,B|407:18|407:18|349:43,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
338,292,349484,53,0,1:0:0:0:
231,21,349627,1,0,1:0:0:0:
416,109,349770,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,286,349913,54,0,P|113:200|154:75,1,246.999988693238,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
467,200,350341,2,0,P|478:260|485:321,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
248,154,350627,2,0,P|255:92|267:31,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
99,269,350913,1,8,0:0:0:0:
366,19,351056,54,0,B|391:77|391:77|376:135,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
182,272,351341,1,0,1:0:0:0:
432,190,351484,1,8,0:0:0:0:
146,19,351627,54,0,B|121:77|121:77|136:135,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
330,272,351913,1,0,1:0:0:0:
80,190,352056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
371,36,352199,54,0,B|369:126|369:126|332:182|332:182|330:272,1,246.999988693238,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
503,372,352627,2,0,L|491:230,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
364,362,352913,53,0,1:0:0:0:
254,157,353056,1,0,1:0:0:0:
206,384,353199,1,8,0:0:0:0:
251,136,353341,53,4,1:0:0:0:
141,305,353484,2,0,P|152:240|154:167,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
238,13,353770,2,0,P|240:74|251:135,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
47,286,354056,53,0,1:0:0:0:
323,183,354199,1,0,1:0:0:0:
206,368,354341,1,8,0:0:0:0:
24,58,354484,54,0,B|112:74|112:74|161:119|161:119|250:135,1,246.999988693238,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
504,44,354913,2,0,L|380:57,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
420,384,355199,53,0,1:0:0:0:
455,144,355341,1,0,1:0:0:0:
242,304,355484,1,8,0:0:0:0:
503,262,355627,53,4,1:0:0:0:
503,262,355770,2,0,P|436:277|366:288,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
260,32,356056,2,0,P|320:42|380:56,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,356341,53,0,1:0:0:0:
338,149,356484,1,0,1:0:0:0:
122,379,356627,1,8,0:0:0:0:
388,379,356770,54,0,P|382:317|371:257,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
24,151,357056,2,0,P|30:212|41:273,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
470,273,357341,2,0,P|481:212|487:151,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,357627,2,0,P|129:317|123:379,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,156,357913,54,0,P|271:84|274:23,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,358199,1,0,1:0:0:0:
400,172,358341,1,8,0:0:0:0:
153,60,358484,54,0,P|211:41|272:32,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
315,371,358770,2,0,P|253:362|195:343,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
482,234,359056,54,0,L|472:363,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
30,234,359341,2,0,L|40:363,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,58,359627,54,0,B|421:106|421:106|412:187,1,123.499994346619,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
110,58,359913,2,0,B|91:106|91:106|100:187,1,123.499994346619,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,361,360199,54,0,B|268:271|268:271|240:210|240:210|252:121,1,246.999988693238,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
258,101,360556,1,0,1:0:0:0:
258,101,360627,1,0,1:0:0:0:
374,376,360770,85,0,1:0:0:0:
348,241,360913,1,0,1:0:0:0:
429,312,361056,2,0,P|469:312|505:303,1,76,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
221,353,361341,86,0,P|127:323|0:315,1,209.000006378174,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
6,326,361770,2,0,P|65:316|124:301,1,104.500003189087,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,57,362056,1,0,1:0:0:0:
256,57,362199,1,0,1:0:0:0:
161,112,362484,86,0,P|255:166|350:113,1,227.999993041992

I have a few things to mention about your part as well, Sing!

01:17:327 (2,3,4) - This looks weird with the way stacking works. I suggest either doing a manual stack or the thing where you move (3) and (4) away from the previous slider.
01:54:386 (1,2) - Should have claps otherwise they have no impact. I also feel like you at least could make the angle of these slightly different compared to the previous jumps since imo they need to be emphasized much more. Something like this?
01:57:386 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Claps on all (1)s plz
03:52:913 (1,2,3) - Now that these three are one "group" I think you could make them a much cleaner shape. Either an equilateral triangle or at least something with same DS between all 3 circles.
04:12:770 (1) - This might be touching the edge of the screen a teeny bit. Moving it a few pixels up would be nice.
04:13:341 (1) - Sliderend missing normal-hitnormal.
Lastly, why is there no whistle hitsound :< There are so many spots that feel very empty especially during the first half because there's nearly no feedback (especially with the weak soft-hitnormal from the default skin). Like here 01:45:413 (1,2,3,4,5) or this part 01:58:286 or this part 02:12:686 the spinners could also use it 02:27:167 and I definitely feel like these 02:56:393 (1) need it.
Please add some nice soft-hitwhistle throughout the map

gogogo!

Sing

354 posts

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-10-14T22:37:55+00:00

took in all suggestions and updated now with fucchos fixes,

thx enjoy & fuccho!

Stoof

104 posts

Joined September 2014

Stoof 2016-10-26T23:27:23+00:00

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toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2016-10-31T04:57:35+00:00

mentioned some other stuff in irc a while back

[Fuccing]

00:55:235 - where the drum hitsounds at
01:17:702 (3) - 1/4 is kinda unnecessary here, and you never do it again in this section
01:33:518 (2) - ctrl+g? less boring linear gameplay for a more immersive experience in order to fully engage yourself in the plot
01:41:186 (5,6) - feels a bit too far from each other with how spacing is going right now, i'd probably stack 6 on top of 01:42:398 (2) - or sth
01:52:586 (1,2,3,4,5) - if you're going to make a stack here, you're going to have to do it at 01:54:386 - 01:56:186 - for consistency, because if you just drop that pattern right there it feels awkward
02:38:015 (1) - silence the end part?
03:39:199 (2) - ctrl+g keeps the flow from 03:38:770 (2,3) - going, with that similar jump angle and all
04:09:913 (1) - i dont think the slider parts are parallel to each other, might want to fix?
04:45:484 (3,1) - ik its supposed to follow the 1/2 spacing motif, but this looks like shit lul
05:22:484 (5) - 05:23:056 (3) - 05:24:199 (3) - NCing these instead would emphasize the jump more tbh
05:32:627 (2,1) - i dislike the stack, because you originally go w/ the jump to the red tick for emphasis (05:31:484 (3,1) - ). but since you stacked it, it loses its power behind the beat

gl!! wew

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-10-31T05:25:15+00:00

toybot wrote:
mentioned some other stuff in irc a while back

[Fuccing]
00:55:235 - where the drum hitsounds at hitsound normal xd
01:17:702 (3) - 1/4 is kinda unnecessary here, and you never do it again in this section fixed
01:33:518 (2) - ctrl+g? less boring linear gameplay for a more immersive experience in order to fully engage yourself in the plot fixed
01:41:186 (5,6) - feels a bit too far from each other with how spacing is going right now, i'd probably stack 6 on top of 01:42:398 (2) - or sth fixed
01:52:586 (1,2,3,4,5) - if you're going to make a stack here, you're going to have to do it at 01:54:386 - 01:56:186 - for consistency, because if you just drop that pattern right there it feels awkward lol i did the same thing the section before 01:50:786 (2,3,4,5,1) - and i dont rlly wanna do that in the section after cuz the sound is on a white tick shich id perfer not u place a stream on at this part xd since the jump is right after and i dont want to make ti too intense
02:38:015 (1) - silence the end part? fixed
03:39:199 (2) - ctrl+g keeps the flow from 03:38:770 (2,3) - going, with that similar jump angle and all fixed
gl!! wew

ty for mod based god

updated map now

batman98

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batman98 2016-10-31T19:13:34+00:00

Beautifull , is amazing song (^_ ^) /

Mod

02:11:786 (1,1) - fix this in a patron same -> 02:03:686 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
01:50:786 (2) - NC
02:55:643 (5) - / 02:55:793 (1) - ctrl+G is most decent patron ( it's an idea*)
04:35:627 (1,2,1,2) - fix please , this patron is most apreciable in 1/6 or 1/8 velocity
05:59:056 (1,2) - again? fx please
02:16:286 (1,3) - add hitsound of soft CS:1

GO TO RANK Good Luck !!!!!!!!!

melon boy

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Joined August 2013

melon boy 2016-11-02T11:14:15+00:00

toybot wrote:
[Fuccing]
04:45:484 (3,1) - ik its supposed to follow the 1/2 spacing motif, but this looks like shit lul Bah! I would stack it but ye, that would be going against my concept with the strong beats.
05:22:484 (5) - 05:23:056 (3) - 05:24:199 (3) - NCing these instead would emphasize the jump more tbh I would if it didn't look as ugly, and I also feel like the current NCing works better reading wise.
05:32:627 (2,1) - i dislike the stack, because you originally go w/ the jump to the red tick for emphasis (05:31:484 (3,1) - ). but since you stacked it, it loses its power behind the beat I dunno, I feel like a stack or "antijump" can show just as much emphasis as a jump at times and I feel like this is one of the times. I was also having a hard time finding actual good placement for a jump xd
gl!! wew

Thanks!

To Sing about hit sounds!
I still have a couple of qualms regarding the hitsounding (like at 01:45:413 (1,2,3,4,5) with the glass-breaking is way too overkill and a lot of other places where I feel like there's just something missing). But instead of writing everything here, I was wondering if I could just do the hit sounding for you? It'd also feel like even more of a collab!

Update: http://puu.sh/s3Txq/9595ed9fe3.txt

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-11-03T01:24:22+00:00

Fuccho wrote:
toybot wrote:
[Fuccing]
04:45:484 (3,1) - ik its supposed to follow the 1/2 spacing motif, but this looks like shit lul Bah! I would stack it but ye, that would be going against my concept with the strong beats.
05:22:484 (5) - 05:23:056 (3) - 05:24:199 (3) - NCing these instead would emphasize the jump more tbh I would if it didn't look as ugly, and I also feel like the current NCing works better reading wise.
05:32:627 (2,1) - i dislike the stack, because you originally go w/ the jump to the red tick for emphasis (05:31:484 (3,1) - ). but since you stacked it, it loses its power behind the beat I dunno, I feel like a stack or "antijump" can show just as much emphasis as a jump at times and I feel like this is one of the times. I was also having a hard time finding actual good placement for a jump xd
gl!! wew
Thanks!

To Sing about hit sounds!
I still have a couple of qualms regarding the hitsounding (like at 01:45:413 (1,2,3,4,5) with the glass-breaking is way too overkill and a lot of other places where I feel like there's just something missing). But instead of writing everything here, I was wondering if I could just do the hit sounding for you? It'd also feel like even more of a collab!

Update: http://puu.sh/s3Txq/9595ed9fe3.txt

haha ya sure, feel free to change whatever in the hitsounds, i havent really htisounded a song liek this before xd can u just post the whole *entire* text file here tho its kind of a pain to copy just the objects xd

melon boy

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Joined August 2013

melon boy 2016-11-05T15:59:20+00:00

http://puu.sh/s7obF/dbe165a9ca.rar

There you go!
Remember to only have the hitsounds from the rar in your map folder since anything else is unused and would make it unrankable xd

Edit: I don't know about you but I couldn't open the other file so here it is again if you need it http://puu.sh/s7onc/294a399ced.rar

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-11-05T23:37:55+00:00

batman98 wrote:
Beautifull , is amazing song (^_ ^) /

Mod
02:11:786 (1,1) - fix this in a patron same -> 02:03:686 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - nah i think its fune the way it is cuz the notes of the violins differ the 2nd time form the first
01:50:786 (2) - NC nah the bell actually starts 01:50:636 (1) - im p sure
02:55:643 (5) - / 02:55:793 (1) - ctrl+G is most decent patron ( it's an idea*) close spacing from kick sliders is fine so no ctrl g and then the increased spacing on the next slider is balanced by the kicksldier beofre it flowing in
04:35:627 (1,2,1,2) - fix please , this patron is most apreciable in 1/6 or 1/8 velocity ? i think its fine theres no real emphasis besides higher notes its stil lthe same intensity
05:59:056 (1,2) - again? fx please same as above
02:16:286 (1,3) - add hitsound of soft CS:1 new hitsounding fixes this
GO TO RANK Good Luck !!!!!!!!!

ok ty fuccho for the amazing new hitsoudns !!!! i think this is ready for rank now

ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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ProfessionalBox 2016-11-05T23:38:45+00:00

no it is not ready

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-11-06T03:19:51+00:00

ProfessionalBox wrote:
no it is not ready

silenced for memes

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 2016-11-29T07:05:45+00:00

hi

firstly can u get ur timing checked? to me these parts sound rather late :S 01:43:913 - 01:15:077 -

00:58:663 (1,2) - the blanket

?
02:25:286 (1,2) - be nice if u could blanket this
03:33:214 (2,1) - needs some more distance imo doesnt seem consistent
04:27:627 (1,2) - ^
04:17:770 (3) - could need an NC here? eh its fine if u dont wana fix colorhaxing lo
04:45:484 (3,1) - why so little spacing here?
05:34:484 (1,2) - the rhythm would be better if u ctrl g'd here :S
06:02:484 (1) - nothing really wrong, i just though u cud probably do some fancy slider art for the last slider of the map :d

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
normal-hitfinish.wav

Timings:
01:43:913 (volume level)
03:35:071 (kiai)

Ranking Criteria - Timing

No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.

so reliable source for that metadata?

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-11-30T04:35:23+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
hi

firstly can u get ur timing checked? to me these parts sound rather late :S 01:43:913 - 01:15:077 - ok, im not gud with timing so ill ask someone to look at it :c

00:58:663 (1,2) - the blanket ? wot blanket
02:25:286 (1,2) - be nice if u could blanket this fixed
03:33:214 (2,1) - needs some more distance imo doesnt seem consistent fixed
04:27:627 (1,2) - ^ fixed2
04:17:770 (3) - could need an NC here? eh its fine if u dont wana fix colorhaxing lo imma just keep cuz nc wud break star aesthetic and ye plusitsthe final pattern in the jump

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
normal-hitfinish.wav might just ask fuccho about that, cud replace

Timings:
01:43:913 (volume level) fixed
03:35:071 (kiai) fixed

Ranking Criteria - Timing

No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
fixed

so reliable source for that metadata? the original songs were Red Like Roses, Red Like Roses Part II (Episode 8 Mix), and Red Like Roses Part II, which were put together so i think this is the acceptable title, since im not sure there is an official one(?) also, I edited the 8 minute version so the lyrics only es the chorus once and ends

melon boy

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melon boy 2016-12-01T21:28:13+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
hi

04:45:484 (3,1) - why so little spacing here? Changed since it has been mentioned before as well
05:34:484 (1,2) - the rhythm would be better if u ctrl g'd here :S owaaa!
06:02:484 (1) - nothing really wrong, i just though u cud probably do some fancy slider art for the last slider of the map :d I like simple shape for simple sound!

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
normal-hitfinish.wav

http://puu.sh/sAZmV/9054f495b7.osu bah

normal-hitfinish if you still need it: http://puu.sh/sAZHf/d4af08eea1.wav

Sing

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Topic Starter

Sing 2016-12-05T00:48:19+00:00

~~updated fuccho changes, once i get someone to check the timing it shud be up and ready again~~

edit: Ok so i asked Meyrink about the timing and he said those points sound fine, its sjut the song itself is off.

Discord Chat Log

Sing - Today at 4:39 PM
hey meyrink can u check timing for a map im triyng ot rank quik
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/510958
osu! » Detailed difficulty and ranking information for Jeff Williams - Red Like Roses Part I & II (Edited Ver.) (mapped by Sing).
fix timign poitns tht kibb highlighted in his mod xd
pls and tyty
Meyrink - Today at 4:42 PM
dayum this song
Sing - Today at 4:42 PM
yehaj lmao
Meyrink - Today at 4:43 PM
ill dll nd check quick tho was busy :c
so u mean it's already time rite
timed
Sing - Today at 4:43 PM
yeah
its has bpm changes and msot of them sound correct
jsut 2 thatk ibb pointed out
once theyre fixed it shud b gud for ranked
Meyrink - Today at 4:44 PM
ah ok link me
what kibb said
Sing - Today at 4:44 PM
"firstly can u get ur timing checked? to me these parts sound rather late :S 01:43:913 - 01:15:077 - "
Meyrink - Today at 4:46 PM
02:00:086 (1,2,3) -
dude nice pattern
Sing - Today at 4:47 PM
xdxd
Meyrink - Today at 4:51 PM
01:21:659 -
this kind of things is off but not off
cuz guitar or w/e is correct and drum is off a bit late
Sing - Today at 4:52 PM
o ok
cuz im followiong guitar for this part
but the hitsoudns follow the drums
Meyrink - Today at 4:52 PM
it's ok i think
Sing - Today at 4:52 PM
ok
Meyrink - Today at 4:52 PM
timing should be correct 100%
just need to sound right
Sing - Today at 4:52 PM
okok
Meyrink - Today at 4:53 PM
things mentioned seems gud to me
Sing - Today at 4:53 PM
so timings fine?
Meyrink - Today at 4:53 PM
01:15:077 -
this one sounds accurate to me wtf
how does it sounds for  u
Sing - Today at 4:54 PM
ya it does
its jsut droms sound a bit late
but im mappign to guitar anyways so
Meyrink - Today at 4:55 PM
but its so nazi
Sing - Today at 4:55 PM
drums r just delayed
Meyrink - Today at 4:55 PM
yeah delay there but hard to notice
limme check in wave form
Sing - Today at 4:55 PM
ok
Meyrink - Today at 5:05 PM
seems ok for me
who did time dis
Sing - Today at 5:15 PM
CXu i think?
i sjut stole the itming from kotayos set
but i cut the audio right so maybe the offset changed
Meyrink - Today at 5:15 PM
it's sounded good
Sing - Today at 5:15 PM
ok

TL;DR: The timing point is correct for the guitar but the drums are off on the song, and since I'm mapping the part to the guitar its fine. The only thing following the drums are the hitsounds.
~~Once I fix that one "unsnapped" sliderend this map shud be good to go~~

Unsnapped fixed, ready to go once again

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 2016-12-10T03:46:28+00:00

fixed some snappings and tags and added RWBY to source field

#1

Spaghetti

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Spaghetti 2016-12-10T04:23:48+00:00

Nomination #2, good luck!

Karen

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Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-12-13T07:03:30+00:00

as requested from pm

Fuccing's Crescent Rose

i'd suggest to mute the sliderslide since it sounds pretty annoying especially at the beginning
01:07:235 (1) - this slider looks not as good as your other sliders
01:12:270 (1) - maybe it's just me because i hate spinners but i don't feel it fits here xd, at least add a green line with 5% volume 01:12:163 - here
01:19:427 (3,1) - nerf it a bit, the jump is too sudden to me and the flow makes it much harder than 01:20:177 (3,1) - this i guess
01:21:068 (3,1) - i know you want to make a triangle pattern 01:21:363 (1,2,3) - here so this one is straight but it looks really not good, suggestion
01:19:577 (1,3) - a blanket here works better http://puu.sh/sNLHH/68c802e279.jpg
the 2 suggestions above might destroy your structure a bit so if you agree with me please spend some time adjusting it
01:42:095 (1) - curve it more or just copy 01:42:549 (3) - this one
03:06:893 (1) - i think you want to make it looks symmetrical but it plays really strange since 03:06:743 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this pattern should be symmetrical as well, how about moving 03:06:593 (1,1) - to (256,384)
03:06:743 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - also the spacing should be larger and larger with the music getting stronger but it looks hard to change so yea
04:39:341 - this part looks pretty overdone, idk why spacing can be that big with vocals only :c
06:00:556 (2,3,1) - circles after a slider are always hard to click so nerf the spacing a bit and 06:00:770 (1) - this one isn't a strong beat
06:02:484 (1) - Don't mute both sliderslide and slidertick (popping reason)

need to confirm the metadata since i don't know if edited mp3 could use another title and i don't know the original songs
nice map, call me for rebubble.

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Sing 2016-12-14T00:08:10+00:00

Karen wrote:
as requested from pm

Fuccing's Crescent Rose
i'd suggest to mute the sliderslide since it sounds pretty annoying especially at the beginning fixed changed slidertickrate to 0.5 and deleted the blank sliderticks leaving blank sliderslides khand:
01:07:235 (1) - this slider looks not as good as your other sliders fixed tried to make it look better
01:12:270 (1) - maybe it's just me because i hate spinners but i don't feel it fits here xd, at least add a green line with 5% volume 01:12:163 - here added
01:19:427 (3,1) - nerf it a bit, the jump is too sudden to me and the flow makes it much harder than 01:20:177 (3,1) - this i guess fixed
01:21:068 (3,1) - i know you want to make a triangle pattern 01:21:363 (1,2,3) - here so this one is straight but it looks really not good, suggestion fixed
01:19:577 (1,3) - a blanket here works better http://puu.sh/sNLHH/68c802e279.jpg fixed
the 2 suggestions above might destroy your structure a bit so if you agree with me please spend some time adjusting it nah its g
01:42:095 (1) - curve it more or just copy 01:42:549 (3) - this one
03:06:893 (1) - i think you want to make it looks symmetrical but it plays really strange since 03:06:743 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this pattern should be symmetrical as well, how about moving 03:06:593 (1,1) - to (256,384) fixed
03:06:743 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - also the spacing should be larger and larger with the music getting stronger but it looks hard to change so yea ctrl+g'ed the 1/1s so it better fits the music
06:02:484 (1) - Don't mute both sliderslide and slidertick (popping reason) fixed:D

need to confirm the metadata since i don't know if edited mp3 could use another title and i don't know the original songs pretty sure its fine, i used the original song title and plus since i cut out a large part of the mp3 (75% of the vocals) i feel itd be nice to state that its an "edited version." though i will changew the Ver. to Verison, idk why i shortened that.
nice map, call me for rebubble. once fuccho applies this mod will do

melon boy

278 posts

Joined August 2013

melon boy 2016-12-14T00:23:31+00:00

Karen wrote:
as requested from pm

Fuccing's Crescent Rose
04:39:341 - this part looks pretty overdone, idk why spacing can be that big with vocals only :c I think that's subjective; the vocal is very dense in rhythm and compared to what comes after it, it should be okay. though I'd probably have mapped it differently had I done it today...
06:00:556 (2,3,1) - circles after a slider are always hard to click so nerf the spacing a bit and 06:00:770 (1) - this one isn't a strong beat Changed the pattern!

Sing, you may want to be a little careful with what you copy paste since I didn't actually update before making the changes (you can just copy some of the last objects. I didn't change anything else).

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47,286,354056,53,2,1:2:0:0:
323,183,354199,1,2,1:2:0:0:
206,368,354341,1,10,0:0:0:0:
24,58,354484,54,0,B|112:74|112:74|161:119|161:119|250:135,1,246.999988693238,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
504,44,354913,2,0,L|380:57,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
420,384,355199,53,2,1:2:0:0:
455,144,355341,1,2,1:2:0:0:
242,304,355484,1,10,0:0:0:0:
503,262,355627,53,6,1:0:0:0:
503,262,355770,2,0,P|436:277|366:288,1,123.499994346619,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
260,32,356056,2,0,P|320:42|380:56,1,123.499994346619,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,356341,53,2,1:0:0:0:
338,149,356484,1,2,1:0:0:0:
122,379,356627,1,10,0:0:0:0:
388,379,356770,54,0,P|382:317|371:257,1,123.499994346619,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
24,151,357056,2,0,P|30:212|41:273,1,123.499994346619,2|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
470,273,357341,2,0,P|481:212|487:151,1,123.499994346619,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,357627,2,0,P|129:317|123:379,1,123.499994346619,2|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,156,357913,54,0,P|271:84|274:23,1,123.499994346619,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
140,257,358199,1,2,1:2:0:0:
400,172,358341,1,10,0:0:0:0:
153,60,358484,54,0,P|211:41|272:32,1,123.499994346619,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
315,371,358770,2,0,P|253:362|195:343,1,123.499994346619,2|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
482,234,359056,54,0,L|472:363,1,123.499994346619,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
30,234,359341,2,0,L|40:363,1,123.499994346619,2|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,58,359627,54,0,B|421:106|421:106|412:187,1,123.499994346619,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
110,58,359913,2,0,B|91:106|91:106|100:187,1,123.499994346619,2|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,361,360199,54,0,B|268:271|268:271|240:210|240:210|252:121,1,246.999988693238,6|8,1:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
258,101,360556,1,8,0:3:0:0:
258,101,360627,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,330,360770,85,4,0:3:0:0:
334,195,360913,1,8,0:0:0:0:
465,249,361056,2,0,P|427:247|390:255,1,76,8|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
96,315,361341,86,0,P|190:286|255:360,1,209.000006378174,6|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
256,361,361770,2,0,P|248:303|247:240,1,104.500003189087,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,57,362056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,57,362199,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,111,362484,86,0,P|255:166|350:112,1,227.999993041992,2|0,0:3|0:0,3:0:0:0:

Sing

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Sing 2016-12-14T00:26:31+00:00

updated, ready to go once again

Karen

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Karen 2016-12-15T07:33:59+00:00

rebubble

Spaghetti

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Spaghetti 2016-12-15T15:13:13+00:00

#2

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 2016-12-18T00:22:24+00:00

q

edit: oops, fixed icon lol

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Mordred

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Mordred 2016-12-18T00:40:27+00:00

04:38:056 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why increase spacing this much

Sing

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Sing 2016-12-18T00:45:49+00:00

Yoshino-- wrote:
04:38:056 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why increase spacing this much

transition from part I to part II

Frans Bauer

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Joined May 2013

Frans Bauer 2016-12-18T01:19:02+00:00

00:30:378 (2,1) - Why overlap these? You don't overlap anywhere else in the first part.

Nice map overall.

Sing

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Sing 2016-12-18T01:21:22+00:00

marty45 wrote:
00:30:378 (2,1) - Why overlap these? You don't overlap anywhere else in the first part.

Nice map overall.

cant rlly get past over lapping them because 00:29:520 (1,2) - cover a large part of grid space alrdy xd

plus the distance spacing is still g so its fine

Nakano Itsuki

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Nakano Itsuki 2016-12-18T01:52:35+00:00

gratz on qua

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-12-18T03:01:38+00:00

So fast owo

Gratzz! :3

Haruto

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