My friend and I are having an argument which map is harder, Scarlet Rose or Tengaku. Opinions?
Speed of Link is possibly harder than Apparition (at least on nomod).mulraf wrote:
scarlet rose really is really easy. tengaku is pretty damn tough but not the hardest. apparition really should be the hardest. but yeah, the ones that bara said. then there's speed of link, lindwurm, any mazzerin map (cosmic cortex etc.) and routing i guess.
Bara- wrote:
Scarlet Rose is incredibly easy
Apparition is the real deal, just as Genryuu Kaiko (HW)/Deconstruction Star (HW)/Odoru Mizushibuki (HW)
Basically any HW map is harder than Scarlet Rose
iderekmc wrote:
Bara- wrote:
Scarlet Rose is incredibly easy
Apparition is the real deal, just as Genryuu Kaiko (HW)/Deconstruction Star (HW)/Odoru Mizushibuki (HW)
Basically any HW map is harder than Scarlet Rose
if scarlet rose is so easy how come less than 50 people have fcd it since 2011? xD
this means that many people with over 8k pp can't fc it xD
The problem with this map is that there are so many patterns you can break on even if you have the skill to aim it and memorize everything. FCing the ridiculous triplets and clearing the shotgun slider in the same run is gonna need quite a bit of luck. I can see EZDT happening before someone can get close to a nomod fc.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Shotgun Symphony
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/32570
Still no non-ez fcs
If you factor in HT, it's easier than Lindwurm and Apparition, but on nomod, it's arguably harder than both.Mein Gauche wrote:
Speed of link only focused on streaming skills.. While Lindwurm, you got to be an alternating god to beat that
So it's the hardest?B1oody wrote:
The problem with this map is that there are so many patterns you can break on even if you have the skill to aim it and memorize everything. FCing the ridiculous triplets and clearing the shotgun slider in the same run is gonna need quite a bit of luck. I can see EZDT happening before someone can get close to a nomod fc.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Shotgun Symphony
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/32570
Still no non-ez fcs
Is HW aka HollowWings?Bara- wrote:
Scarlet Rose is incredibly easy
Apparition is the real deal, just as Genryuu Kaiko (HW)/Deconstruction Star (HW)/Odoru Mizushibuki (HW)
Basically any HW map is harder than Scarlet Rose
Mein Gauche wrote:
You should never compare newer maps to the old retarded ones.
Performance: 1,408ppYou seem to have plenty of experience with older maps and mapping in general to call them "retarded".
Play Count: 10,821
You're essentially describing the trend mapping's going to anyways. Is what you currently call "good maps" always going to stay the same? In the future will they call these maps pieces of shit that don't deserve to be considered seriously in any way shape or form?Mein Gauche wrote:
Actually you should. Just being stupidly mapped is enough for a reason. Or I can make a 240 bpm with 1/4 fullscreen jumps and call it the hardest map ever. No. It's just stupid.
Anyways, back to topic. With today's rules, with today's guidelines, with today's definition of "good maps",I still think Lindwurm is hard.
Do I have to be cookiezi to call a map bad? Is that how it works? Oh boy. I'm very sorry. They should even remove 1 to 7 ratings so people can only vote greens in a map!B1oody wrote:
Mein Gauche wrote:
You should never compare newer maps to the old retarded ones.Performance: 1,408ppYou seem to have plenty of experience with older maps and mapping in general to call them "retarded".
Play Count: 10,821
Yes. If i'm going to play for many years. And if the standards are diifferent. Or do you want that map with ninja spinners (forgot the name) good?Yuudachi-kun wrote:
You're essentially describing the trend mapping's going to anyways. Is what you currently call "good maps" always going to stay the same? In the future will they call these maps pieces of shit that don't deserve to be considered seriously in any way shape or form?Mein Gauche wrote:
Actually you should. Just being stupidly mapped is enough for a reason. Or I can make a 240 bpm with 1/4 fullscreen jumps and call it the hardest map ever. No. It's just stupid.
Anyways, back to topic. With today's rules, with today's guidelines, with today's definition of "good maps",I still think Lindwurm is hard.
I also played hundreds of older maps when I found modern maps completely boring and all of the older maps were great, interesting fun that showed me just how stale and vomit inducing everything new is. And then I played mania and it's better than standard in its entirety.Mein Gauche wrote:
That's because it's the most popular ones. And I have played quite a few old maps. Only for a while because when my ranks go up I couldn't get myself to enjoy those map.