Perfume - Nee (short ver.) · forum

Marianna

1,392 posts

Joined July 2015

Marianna 2016-11-14T22:33:39+00:00

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Marianna

1,392 posts

Joined July 2015

Marianna 2016-11-14T22:34:05+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[Mod for Marianna]
00:33:951 (1) - This would flow better like this: fixed
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00:34:419 (2,3) - make the blanket better Fixed i think
00:37:232 (3,1,2) - To avoid the overlap, do this: Fixed
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00:47:544 (2,3) - You have to make the rhythm here more similar to the rhythm 00:32:779 (2,3,4) - here. Just using one circle 00:48:482 (3) - here is too Easy for an Advanced difficulty. [/color]
00:53:638 (3,4,1) - make the blankets better Fixed
00:55:279 (2,3,1) - fix the symmetry I do not think I need a perfect symmetry but, fixed i hope
01:38:638 (3,1) - make the blanket better
01:41:451 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetry
01:44:732 - add a circle here
Fixed
I like your collab sections a lot.
I hope I helped you.

@Xalyer Fixed the same of @Jonawaga's mod

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Tags:marianna ataraxia caffeamericano electropop Yasutaka Nakata Universal Japan J 中田ヤスタカ jpop fake it A-chan Nocchi Kashiyuka
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56,216,104732,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,104966,12,0,106841,0:0:0:0:

Now my mod

General

Excessive claps make music very annoying
Video is corrupted, try another video format

Easy

00:02:076 (1,2) - I think this beginning does not have a good flow, it's advisable to do something more "open", like this
00:21:763 (2,3) - 01:36:763 (2,3) - Another bad flow, try this
00:35:826 (1,2,3) - 00:39:576 (1,2) - 00:50:826 (1,2,3) - 00:58:326 (1,2,3) - I think your choice to follow the vocals was not very good, this can be very difficult for beginners, since most of the map is 1/1, 00:54:576 (1,2) - i think this is great
01:24:341 (1,2,3,4) - This is not good for beginners, 01:24:107 - This break is what makes everything harder

Normal

00:25:044 (2,3) - 00:27:388 (5,1) - The flow is not good here
01:13:326 (1,2,3,4) - This becomes a bit excessive in 1/1

Advanced

00:07:232 - 00:14:732 - Dont ignore this please
00:18:013 (3,1,2) - Bad flow

Hard

00:14:732 (5,1) - Really bad flow
00:21:763 (4) - Use 1/2 here please
00:34:419 (2,3) - Actually this jump is not necessary and it broke all the flow
00:47:076 (1) - I do not think I need all this complication in the slider, it would be difficult to play with DT after
00:54:576 (1) - This is not where 1/4 is needed, it's here 00:54:810 -
01:29:497 - I think this serious hitsound is not necessary here

Insane

Sorry but, PLEASE REMOVE THIS DIFF, It is really unnecessary and pollute the whole song

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-11-25T22:16:16+00:00

M4M from your queue
My map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472890

Mari & Waga

00:07:701 (1,2) - The structure here is kinda bad. Unlinke on other occasions like here 00:11:451 (1,2,3) - the structure can not to be justified as a "part of a pattern" thus leaving an awkward looking "bump". I would suggest just improving it by changing the flow over the slider1|slider2. Pretty much so the curve of 1 would be sort of continued by the 2 either circularly or straightly http://puu.sh/su1OL/ea075704f9.png

00:23:755 - I know that you have left "vocals" unmapped before in the difficulty but this one unlike the others stands out because right before it ( 00:23:521 (3) - ) you have mapped specifically a similiar vocal under a clickable. I'd suggest to removing the 3 and mapping for example to the drums or add the note. Slider wouldn't really work because one of them would be a clickable and other one a sliderend thus making similiar sounds inequal

00:54:576 (1) - Personal opinion. You could have this slider little bit less curved so it would continue the syle of these two 00:53:638 (3,4) - sliders https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6653728. You most likely have other intentions or reasons like it starts a new pattern/combo or something and it should be just fine like it's now but as i said before it's my opinion

01:01:372 - I would suggest something like this http://puu.sh/su530/4c88d41156.jpg. It would get rid of the inequality issue having this 01:01:372 - as a clickable and this 01:01:607 - as a sliderend even though they are pretty much same and on top of that you would have the less noticeable note here 01:01:841 - mapped. If you disagree though atleast get rid of the inherited point here 01:01:841 - as it does not affect any notes currently

01:08:404 (2) - This slider just does not look clean or well thoughy about imo because the first curve is much sharper than the other one. Strongly suggesting you to fix it or atleast giving an explonation to the weird shape

01:32:076 (1,2) - These could be parallel (Rotate the 2 by 5 degrees CCW selection centre) but it should be fine like it's currently

Hard

00:05:357 (6) - So why is this mapped as a 1/2 slider? You have mapped every other "nee" as two hitcircles so what makes this one different when compared to pretty much any other "nee" in the difficulty (with 2 expections in the kiai 01:02:544 (3) - 01:18:482 (6) - which should be fixed imo aswell)

Another thing i'm really curious about is spacing like this 00:05:357 (6,1) - . Honestly i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.2x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell? Another question on top of that ; Why does this 00:05:826 (1) - note need more emphasis than for example this 00:04:888 (4) - one? They are mapped practically on a similiar sound with the only difference that the other one is placed on a big white tick

00:34:419 (2,3) - Imo you could have achieved alot more from this pattern because for example right now the flow does not work with the current slider shapes when placed like that. If you want to keep the shapes somewhat similiar you could try something like this 00:30:201 (1,2,3) - for example

01:01:841 - Similiar kind of suggestion as in advanced. This less noticeable drum hit should atleast be mapped under a slidertail. Again if you disagree with this atleast remove the inherited point because it does not affect any notes

On top of the mystically increased spacing (see the rant for these 00:05:357 (6,1) - ) there is this one 01:05:357 (5,6) - . So what is your reason for a 2.5x space for two beats that for you are usually using ~1.2x DS? (You are using 1.2x even in the same combo 01:04:419 (2,3) - ) I'm just so confused :<

Ataraxia

00:02:779 (3,4) - Similiar issue as in Hard. You may have a differing point of view for this kind of patterns so ; i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.1x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell?

00:17:544 (3,4,5) - Unlike every other pattern containing hitcircles on 1/4s (one way or another) you have spaced these differently when compared to the other "normal" patterns like 00:18:365 (6,7) - . People should be able to abuse slider leniency but it's visually different enough to stand out. I'd want to hear your explonation on this

00:43:326 (1) - You could improve the shape of this slider overall because it just looks a weird wave where the first side is quite dull when compared to the other side. Currently, i assume, you have tried to make a S shape out of this slider so you could try to arrange the followpoints like this http://puu.sh/suda0/cf411cfc56.jpg

01:38:521 (4) - I would personally prefer to have this slider as two hitcircles because the both points of the slider represent a similiar sound and it doesn't really feel right to me to have the other one not as an active note when the other one is

Caffe

OD is pretty high when compared to the light insane

00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - You can have your spiral streams but i can not understand the logic behind this. It's not visually flowing with anything and it does not really synergize with anything either. It just leaves me thinking why is it there. Could you answer and help me understand the reasoning why that kind of a shape would be justified? I would personally just lower the ds to be somewhat like this http://puu.sh/suiqU/b59bdcac78.jpg but you may have your own intentions for it so i don't want to push that too much

00:41:919 (4) - I honestly would not expect something like this. Naturally the next object would be roughly at x216|y117 to form a triangle with these objects 00:41:216 (7,1,2,3) - because you already made a geometrical pattern right before the thing i'm suggesting you to fix ( 00:40:747 (5,6,7) - )

00:57:857 (7,8,1) - For this one i would not prefer pattern choices like this one personally as the pattern pretty much loses the potential it could've had due to the poor flow and that is mostly because of the shape of the 1. I would suggest you to overhaul it so it would just work one way or another like for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6656489 but i hope you could come up with something by yourself. It's your map after all isn't it?

The kiai is amazingly mapped, well done!

Great tunes and mapping. That is the way to go

Best of luck to you guys though i am confident that you will get this ranked eventually

Jonarwhal

1,216 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-11-28T00:03:03+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
M4M from your queue
My map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472890

Mari & Waga
00:07:701 (1,2) - The structure here is kinda bad. Unlinke on other occasions like here 00:11:451 (1,2,3) - the structure can not to be justified as a "part of a pattern" thus leaving an awkward looking "bump". I would suggest just improving it by changing the flow over the slider1|slider2. Pretty much so the curve of 1 would be sort of continued by the 2 either circularly or straightly http://puu.sh/su1OL/ea075704f9.png Fixed with a previous (Marianna's) mod

00:23:755 - I know that you have left "vocals" unmapped before in the difficulty but this one unlike the others stands out because right before it ( 00:23:521 (3) - ) you have mapped specifically a similiar vocal under a clickable. I'd suggest to removing the 3 and mapping for example to the drums or add the note. Slider wouldn't really work because one of them would be a clickable and other one a sliderend thus making similiar sounds inequal Fixed with a previous (Xayler's) mod

00:54:576 (1) - Personal opinion. You could have this slider little bit less curved so it would continue the syle of these two 00:53:638 (3,4) - sliders https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6653728. You most likely have other intentions or reasons like it starts a new pattern/combo or something and it should be just fine like it's now but as i said before it's my opinion pending marianna

01:01:372 - I would suggest something like this http://puu.sh/su530/4c88d41156.jpg. It would get rid of the inequality issue having this 01:01:372 - as a clickable and this 01:01:607 - as a sliderend even though they are pretty much same and on top of that you would have the less noticeable note here 01:01:841 - mapped. If you disagree though atleast get rid of the inherited point here 01:01:841 - as it does not affect any notes currently pending marianna

01:08:404 (2) - This slider just does not look clean or well thoughy about imo because the first curve is much sharper than the other one. Strongly suggesting you to fix it or atleast giving an explonation to the weird shape it's not causing a problem

01:32:076 (1,2) - These could be parallel (Rotate the 2 by 5 degrees CCW selection centre) but it should be fine like it's currently pending marianna

Hard
00:05:357 (6) - So why is this mapped as a 1/2 slider? You have mapped every other "nee" as two hitcircles so what makes this one different when compared to pretty much any other "nee" in the difficulty (with 2 expections in the kiai 01:02:544 (3) - 01:18:482 (6) - which should be fixed imo aswell) You have the right idea, but a difference of 1 1/2 slider and 2 1/2 circles is too minor to be a problem.

Another thing i'm really curious about is spacing like this 00:05:357 (6,1) - . Honestly i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.2x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell? Another question on top of that ; Why does this 00:05:826 (1) - note need more emphasis than for example this 00:04:888 (4) - one? They are mapped practically on a similiar sound with the only difference that the other one is placed on a big white tick Fixed!

00:34:419 (2,3) - Imo you could have achieved alot more from this pattern because for example right now the flow does not work with the current slider shapes when placed like that. If you want to keep the shapes somewhat similiar you could try something like this 00:30:201 (1,2,3) - for example fixed with a previous (Marianna's) mod~

01:01:841 - Similiar kind of suggestion as in advanced. This less noticeable drum hit should atleast be mapped under a slidertail. Again if you disagree with this atleast remove the inherited point because it does not affect any notes fixed~

On top of the mystically increased spacing (see the rant for these 00:05:357 (6,1) - ) there is this one 01:05:357 (5,6) - . So what is your reason for a 2.5x space for two beats that for you are usually using ~1.2x DS? (You are using 1.2x even in the same combo 01:04:419 (2,3) - ) I'm just so confused :< Fixed with a previous (Xayler's) mod~

Great tunes and mapping. That is the way to go

Best of luck to you guys though i am confident that you will get this ranked eventually Your explanations are very satisfying! I would recommend you take your mod out of boxes because they can make you mod harder to see and can make you seem less confident. Writing exaplanations like that is a god habit to get into, so keep that up! And, thanks for modding.

I lost my other mod replies, RIP.
Basically, the picture, video, and .mp3 file are all being fixed. Some flow stuff was intentional and denied, but a lot of it was accepted. Good job all of you!

Cosmolade

1,289 posts

Joined December 2012

Cosmolade 2016-12-22T22:16:55+00:00

Hey! M4M as req >w<
yuush I love Perfume♥

[General]
Nothing to say o3o

[Easy]

01:01:361 (4) - This note will be confuse D: I loose combo here in the first test lol I suggest follow the simple sound, and dont mind to map the red tick here, is better for a easy >_<
I suggest this pattern from > 01:00:424 -. to > 01:06:283 .-, because start with a slider in - 01:00:424 .- is really more readable (obviously, with the same DS, now I notice I have more DS lol and the pattern look a bit different, but I think you got the idea xD)
SPOILER

----
Only this for the easy, I really like it!

[Normal]
I cant' see anything bad in the normal, good job owo)b

[MariWaga's Advanced]
Very clear diff, so nice!

01:10:502 (3) - Ctrl+G the slider for make a better flow in this part, and next, stack (2) with (4) for keep the DS consistency (and btw, why you have a high DS in the kia? I know it is for emphasis, but I see 1,2x too much, but not at all... you can use -0.1x (I mean 1,1x) and it will look more pretty and more neat >_<
01:44:721 - All the other diffs have a note here (a circle, or a slider tail) why not here?

[Hard]

00:09:096 (5,1) - Make them with the same slidershape, for make a mirror pattern (I like the shape of (5) more)
00:35:346 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this two in the same time, and next Ctrl+G only (4) It makes a really good pattern, and for the strong beats, the jumps here are fine, and for the high DS, you can move the pattern and make a stack from the slider tail of (2), it makes a smooth and a nice circle movement of the cursor, I like it!
SPOILER
The rest for me is fine >w<

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

00:21:283 (3,4) - The slider (4) dont follow a sound D: I suggest make a slider in the blue tick, and end it in the red
SPOILER
01:00:893 (3) - The slidertail have so much strong sound for not make it clickeable, I suggest delete the slider, and add a note in the red tick, and another one in the white tick ( and for the extra note (4), you can put it in (1) slidetail (and move (5,6) to x216 y52 ) for a triangle jump?
01:09:565 (1) - Ctrl+G for a better/circular flow

You told me to not mod the last diff, so...
That's all!
I hope I have been helpful
GL!

Jonarwhal

1,216 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-12-22T23:22:33+00:00

Cosmolade wrote:
Hey! M4M as req >w< Hey, Cosmolade! o/
yuush I love Perfume♥

[General]
Nothing to say o3o

[Easy]
01:01:361 (4) - This note will be confuse D: I loose combo here in the first test lol I suggest follow the simple sound, and dont mind to map the red tick here, is better for a easy >_<
I suggest this pattern from > 01:00:424 -. to > 01:06:283 .-, because start with a slider in - 01:00:424 .- is really more readable (obviously, with the same DS, now I notice I have more DS lol and the pattern look a bit different, but I think you got the idea xD)
SPOILER

----
Only this for the easy, I really like it! All fixed and thanks :3

[Normal]
I cant' see anything bad in the normal, good job owo)b

[MariWaga's Advanced]
Very clear diff, so nice!
01:10:502 (3) - Ctrl+G the slider for make a better flow in this part, and next, stack (2) with (4) for keep the DS consistency (and btw, why you have a high DS in the kia? I know it is for emphasis, but I see 1,2x too much, but not at all... you can use -0.1x (I mean 1,1x) and it will look more pretty and more neat >_< Fixed~
01:44:721 - All the other diffs have a note here (a circle, or a slider tail) why not here? Pending Marianna
[Hard]
00:09:096 (5,1) - Make them with the same slidershape, for make a mirror pattern (I like the shape of (5) more)
00:35:346 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this two in the same time, and next Ctrl+G only (4) It makes a really good pattern, and for the strong beats, the jumps here are fine, and for the high DS, you can move the pattern and make a stack from the slider tail of (2), it makes a smooth and a nice circle movement of the cursor, I like it!
SPOILER
The rest for me is fine >w< fixed all~
You told me to not mod the last diff, so...
That's all!
I hope I have been helpful yes, yes you are helpful
GL!

Thanks for modding~

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-12-23T00:03:43+00:00

for randon reason, i will reply this mod in portuguese! (google translate this rs)

Cosmolade wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
00:21:283 (3,4) - The slider (4) dont follow a sound D: I suggest make a slider in the blue tick, and end it in the red
SPOILER
dei um jeito e fiz outra coisa que parece legal
01:00:893 (3) - The slidertail have so much strong sound for not make it clickeable, I suggest delete the slider, and add a note in the red tick, and another
one in the white tick ( and for the extra note (4), you can put it in (1) slidetail (and move (5,6) to x216 y52 ) for a triangle jump?
Magnifico !brilhante ideia seu lindo

01:09:565 (1) - Ctrl+G for a better/circular flow olha num 3 star achei isso tipo um tiro bem forte mas nem ligo coloquei mesmo assim rsrsrsrs

VALEU(THANKS)

edit: i miss the code HAHAHAHA

Jonny é lindo

osu file format v14

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Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-12-23T03:02:06+00:00

Important note:

in have applied somethings in Bubblun mod, but in don't remember such thing in fixed, ist a old mod that in really don't remember , but i have fixed the things, in remember yes.

Just this owo

Noffy

Nomination Assessment Team

1,659 posts

Joined April 2012

Noffy 2017-05-01T01:56:58+00:00

Jonawagawaga requested I mod this so i am here

Ultra in depth long mod as requested on this terrible set

(No not really it looks pretty snazzy to me I don't have much to say)
(because I <3 this map)

[General]

The hitsounding in this entire set is really empty.. like you were following the drums, but only half of them o.o
Uhhh.. that's really weird. The video file works for me in osu, but will not play in any of my media players. It skips to the end like part of it got corrupted. I am concerned about compatability with different user's computers. (I was trying to open it to double check whether it still had audio in it or not)

[Easy]

00:10:033 (2) - Is there a particular reason this wave is curvier on the right side? ( 00:30:190 (3) - look at this one it's so even and cute)
01:10:033 (2) - ^ Same question here for this copypastedone
00:24:565 (1,2) - jon these aren't perfectly symmetrical who are you

[Normal]

00:11:440 (4,5) - Why are these stacked when 00:03:940 (4,5) - weren't :'c
00:29:252 (2) - The rotation of this slider felt out of place when it's not balanced horizontally like the two sliders preceding it.. (or the majority of the angled sliders in this diff!!) imagine
00:56:440 (4) - Up until now you had been mapping the red tick before every other bar.. but then here you just.. don't? It feels late and unexpectedly so, making it easy to miss.
01:23:158 (5,1) - I think the positioning of one perfectly to the left makes this awkard to play, as the flow for 5 doesn't lead into it at all, AND because it's one of the rare-lone-circle-1/2-after-a-slider objects. possiburu idea

[MariWaga's Advanced]

00:29:955 (1) - Consider making this slider pink for breast cancer awareness
Actually my real suggestion here is modifying it along these lines so that it has a clean teardrop shap in the center! this way the inner curve looks smoooothee

[Hard]

00:15:190 (1) - Asymmetrical slider spotted hello there, mr. slider, you are a criminal offense in jonawaga ultra symmetry mapping tm.
00:25:268 (4,5) - These aren't perfectly stacked. Please fix. Yes, it does affect autostacking.
00:34:877 (3) - Consider adjusting this to be as curvy as the two sliders right before and after it? Because 00:34:877 (3,4) - this blanket looks borked.
00:54:565 (1) - Consider making this parallel with 00:54:096 (4) - as right now 00:54:565 (1,2,3) - looks heavier on the left side due to 1 trying to get snuggly with 2.

[Caffe's Neigh]

Consider getting an image of a horse to use as the background for this difficulty?

01:00:424 (1) - what is this slider. How about making it have its humps be friendly and even instead? It.. looks kind of like a turd right now..

I checked Ataraxia's difficulty as well, but didn't have anything to say!
Entire set is pretty nice, good luck Jonawagawaga owo

(but SERIOUSLY check with LOTS of people to make sure the video works for them, I for one am very concerned!!)

Jonarwhal

1,216 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2017-05-01T02:38:08+00:00

Noffy wrote:
Jonawagawaga requested I mod this so i am here

Ultra in depth long mod as requested on this terrible set

(No not really it looks pretty snazzy to me I don't have much to say)
(because I <3 this map)

[General]
The hitsounding in this entire set is really empty.. like you were following the drums, but only half of them o.o suggestions on how to fix?
Uhhh.. that's really weird. The video file works for me in osu, but will not play in any of my media players. It skips to the end like part of it got corrupted. I am concerned about compatability with different user's computers. (I was trying to open it to double check whether it still had audio in it or not) will do...
[Easy]
00:10:033 (2) - Is there a particular reason this wave is curvier on the right side? ( 00:30:190 (3) - look at this one it's so even and cute) fixed
01:10:033 (2) - ^ Same question here for this copypastedone fixed
00:24:565 (1,2) - jon these aren't perfectly symmetrical who are you it's a different rhythm right?
[Normal]
00:11:440 (4,5) - Why are these stacked when 00:03:940 (4,5) - weren't :'c fixed
00:29:252 (2) - The rotation of this slider felt out of place when it's not balanced horizontally like the two sliders preceding it.. (or the majority of the angled sliders in this diff!!) imagine fixed
00:56:440 (4) - Up until now you had been mapping the red tick before every other bar.. but then here you just.. don't? It feels late and unexpectedly so, making it easy to miss.
01:23:158 (5,1) - I think the positioning of one perfectly to the left makes this awkard to play, as the flow for 5 doesn't lead into it at all, AND because it's one of the rare-lone-circle-1/2-after-a-slider objects. possiburu idea
[MariWaga's Advanced]
00:29:955 (1) - Consider making this slider pink for breast cancer awareness
Actually my real suggestion here is modifying it along these lines so that it has a clean teardrop shap in the center! this way the inner curve looks smoooothee
[Hard]
00:15:190 (1) - Asymmetrical slider spotted hello there, mr. slider, you are a criminal offense in jonawaga ultra symmetry mapping tm.
00:25:268 (4,5) - These aren't perfectly stacked. Please fix. Yes, it does affect autostacking.
00:34:877 (3) - Consider adjusting this to be as curvy as the two sliders right before and after it? Because 00:34:877 (3,4) - this blanket looks borked.
00:54:565 (1) - Consider making this parallel with 00:54:096 (4) - as right now 00:54:565 (1,2,3) - looks heavier on the left side due to 1 trying to get snuggly with 2.
I checked Ataraxia's difficulty as well, but didn't have anything to say!
Entire set is pretty nice, good luck Jonawagawaga owo

(but SERIOUSLY check with LOTS of people to make sure the video works for them, I for one am very concerned!!)

blank = fixed

tysm

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-05-09T15:00:20+00:00

[Easy]
AR+2
You need to use claps (add an additional one, not the current soft-clap because it is too soft for these places) for 00:34:877 (3) - slider-ends, like what you did in Kiai. You need to address this hitsounding issue for all the difficulties! <3

00:25:502 (2) - This rhythm is really weird and off-place. Use normal 1/1 2/1 scheme here please.

01:00:424 (4) - If you are trying to keep this long slider, the very strong beat at 01:00:658 will be skipped, which is not really nice. So you may try to map that out instead.

[Normal]
00:40:971 (4,5,6) - Spacing needs to be kept consistent here

01:01:361 (5) - NC

01:31:361 (4) - NC

[Advanced]
AR7 seems a bit too high. AR6 fits better.

00:18:002 (3) - This rhythm of 3/4 is quite weird tbh.

00:21:752 (3) - "Irrational" extended slider. Just use 1/2 rhythm instead.

00:22:924 (2,4) - Not a good idea of stacking. This leads to complexity and difficulty in reading.

00:54:096 (4,1) - Blanket.

01:01:361 (3) - Two singletaps will be better i guess, since the two beats at 01:01:361 (3) - is way stronger than 01:00:424 (1,2) - .

01:08:393 (2) - Not a good shape. Maybe this is the shape of 2013 but not now.

01:32:065 (1) - 00:17:065 (1) - Keep the rhythm consistent across these two sections. Tho I think latter is the better.

01:44:721 You missed a note here.

[Hard]
Actually this diff has almost no differences from its previous diff. Just more 1/2s and several 1/4s could be found in this. And the rhythm throught the diff is approximately the same as its previous one.
Additionally I dont see the meaning of this diff. From star difficulty 1.2 - 2.8 you used 4 diffs to do that. The spread is really redundant, tbh. If there are variations then it's probably okay but sadly those difficulties resemble each other, which is not an exciting thing to figure out.

Removing this diff is an optional choice.

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
First I want to know how you arrange the spacing throughout the entire diff. Some spacings are really questionable, like 00:03:705 (6,1) - 00:32:065 (1,2) -
00:35:346 (5,6,1,2,3) - etc. At least I dont understand how you made this spacing.

00:17:065 (1) - The rhythm of this part is messed up. I dont know which track you are following. There are some questionable rhythms like 00:25:854 (4,1) - .

[Caffe's Neigh]
OD-1 SUch high OD makes no sense.
00:04:408 (3,4) - Jump <3
00:26:791 (2) - Remove. (Overmapped)
00:31:830 (3,1) - Should owns larger spacing than 00:31:596 (2,3) - because of stonger beat.
00:39:682 (2) - Remove (This 1/4 notes does not match with the long vocal well)
00:41:557 (2) - ^
00:48:705 (1) - Not a good idea to place a strong beat on a slider-end. Also the 1/4 is not matching with the music well. 00:56:205 (1,2,3) - Same
00:52:807 (2) - Remove.
00:53:627 (5,6) - Ought to have a larger spacing here.
01:00:424 (1,2,3) - Some strong beats are placed on slider-ends. You may try this rhythm instead: https://puu.sh/vLGwX/1e10e6ca9f.png
01:06:869 (2) - Remove.
01:10:502 (4,5,6,7) - If you want a rhythm alternation here, you need to keep consistent with corresponding parts in other sections.
01:13:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I dont see any valid reason to use such huge and abrupt jumps.
01:16:127 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^
01:20:815 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same problems as mentioned above.
01:29:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Such huge spacing differences. Ofc "No" from my side.
01:32:533 (3,4) - Bad flow.
01:33:236 (7,8) - ^ I mean, yeah you could use 1/4 jumps but make sure the flow is nice.
01:38:510 (5) - Ofc this should be a 1/4 slider instead.
01:41:791 (2) - Remove

Last edited by Mafumafu 2017-05-10T14:54:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2017-05-09T21:46:40+00:00

hello, i rly thinked about the space, in not so expert in months ago, so in have switch all space jumps, (in 1/1 to be specific) like regrazz say about, theres a lot of confunsing things

Regraz wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
First I want to know how you arrange the spacing throughout the entire diff. Some spacings are really questionable, like 00:03:705 (6,1) - 00:32:065 (1,2) -
00:35:346 (5,6,1,2,3) - etc. At least I dont understand how you made this spacing. rem-snap (?)

00:17:065 (1) - The rhythm of this part is messed up. I dont know which track you are following. There are some questionable rhythms like 00:25:854 (4,1) - . er... i don't need to explain, because is the same sense o my r to ^

thanks

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124,308,45658,1,2,0:0:0:0:
28,348,45893,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2017-05-09T22:17:02+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Easy]
AR+2 Fixed~
You need to use claps (add an additional one, not the current soft-clap because it is too soft for these places) for 00:34:877 (3) - slider-ends, like what you did in Kiai. You need to address this hitsounding issue for all the difficulties! <3 i think you may have an old copy, try redownloading

00:25:502 (2) - This rhythm is really weird and off-place. Use normal 1/1 2/1 scheme here please. fixed~

01:00:424 (4) - If you are trying to keep this long slider, the very strong beat at 01:00:658 will be skipped, which is not really nice. So you may try to map that out instead. I'm following the intense wubs, so it's fine

[Normal]
00:40:971 (4,5,6) - Spacing needs to be kept consistent here fixed~

01:01:361 (5) - NC fixed~

01:31:361 (4) - NC fixed~

[Advanced]
AR7 seems a bit too high. AR6 fits better. fixed~

00:18:002 (3) - This rhythm of 3/4 is quite weird tbh. fixed~

00:21:752 (3) - "Irrational" extended slider. Just use 1/2 rhythm instead. 00:22:221 (3) - fixed~

00:22:924 (2,4) - Not a good idea of stacking. This leads to complexity and difficulty in reading. fixed~

00:54:096 (4,1) - Blanket. fixed~

01:01:361 (3) - Two singletaps will be better i guess, since the two beats at 01:01:361 (3) - is way stronger than 01:00:424 (1,2) - . fixed~

01:08:393 (2) - Not a good shape. Maybe this is the shape of 2013 but not now. fixed~

01:32:065 (1) - 00:17:065 (1) - Keep the rhythm consistent across these two sections. Tho I think latter is the better. fixed~

01:44:721 You missed a note here. fixed~

[Hard]
Actually this diff has almost no differences from its previous diff. Just more 1/2s and several 1/4s could be found in this. And the rhythm throught the diff is approximately the same as its previous one.
Additionally I dont see the meaning of this diff. From star difficulty 1.2 - 2.8 you used 4 diffs to do that. The spread is really redundant, tbh. If there are variations then it's probably okay but sadly those difficulties resemble each other, which is not an exciting thing to figure out. do you recommend I remove this difficulty?

Continue later

thanks for modding >w<

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2018-01-18T03:18:31+00:00

Caffe gave me permission to edit his difficulty.

Marianna wrote:
Insane

Sorry but, PLEASE REMOVE THIS DIFF, It is really unnecessary and pollute the whole song

no change

Noffy wrote:
[Caffe's Neigh]
Consider getting an image of a horse to use as the background for this difficulty? nope, gotta respect the mapper
01:00:424 (1) - what is this slider. How about making it have its humps be friendly and even instead? It.. looks kind of like a turd right now.. fixed, looks nice

some changes made

Regraz wrote:
[Caffe's Neigh]
OD-1 SUch high OD makes no sense.
00:04:408 (3,4) - Jump <3
00:26:791 (2) - Remove. (Overmapped)
00:31:830 (3,1) - Should owns larger spacing than 00:31:596 (2,3) - because of stonger beat.
00:39:682 (2) - Remove (This 1/4 notes does not match with the long vocal well)
00:41:557 (2) - ^
00:48:705 (1) - Not a good idea to place a strong beat on a slider-end. Also the 1/4 is not matching with the music well. 00:56:205 (1,2,3) - Same
00:52:807 (2) - Remove.
00:53:627 (5,6) - Ought to have a larger spacing here.
01:00:424 (1,2,3) - Some strong beats are placed on slider-ends. You may try this rhythm instead: https://puu.sh/vLGwX/1e10e6ca9f.png
01:06:869 (2) - Remove.
01:10:502 (4,5,6,7) - If you want a rhythm alternation here, you need to keep consistent with corresponding parts in other sections.
01:13:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I dont see any valid reason to use such huge and abrupt jumps.
01:16:127 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^
01:20:815 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same problems as mentioned above.
01:29:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Such huge spacing differences. Ofc "No" from my side.
01:32:533 (3,4) - Bad flow.
01:33:236 (7,8) - ^ I mean, yeah you could use 1/4 jumps but make sure the flow is nice.
01:38:510 (5) - Ofc this should be a 1/4 slider instead.
01:41:791 (2) - Remove

time stamps are hardly working ;w; you might have to remod this

thank you all for modding >w</~*

Noffy

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Noffy 2018-01-18T03:37:17+00:00

Regraz wrote:
Caffe's Neigh
OD-1 SUch high OD makes no sense.
00:03:428 (3,4) - Jump <3
00:25:811 (2) - Remove. (Overmapped)
00:30:850 (3,1) - Should owns larger spacing than 00:30:616 (2,3) - because of stonger beat.
00:38:702 (2) - Remove (This 1/4 notes does not match with the long vocal well)
00:40:577 (2) - ^
00:47:725 (1) - Not a good idea to place a strong beat on a slider-end. Also the 1/4 is not matching with the music well. 00:55:225 (1,2,3) - Same
00:51:827 (2) - Remove.
00:52:647 (5,6) - Ought to have a larger spacing here.
00:59:444 (1,2,3) - Some strong beats are placed on slider-ends. You may try this rhythm instead: https://puu.sh/vLGwX/1e10e6ca9f.png
01:05:889 (2) - Remove.
01:09:522 (4,5,6,7) - If you want a rhythm alternation here, you need to keep consistent with corresponding parts in other sections.
01:12:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I dont see any valid reason to use such huge and abrupt jumps.
01:15:147 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^
01:19:835 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same problems as mentioned above.
01:28:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Such huge spacing differences. Ofc "No" from my side.
01:31:553 (3,4) - Bad flow.
01:32:256 (7,8) - ^ I mean, yeah you could use 1/4 jumps but make sure the flow is nice.
01:37:530 (5) - Ofc this should be a 1/4 slider instead.
01:40:811 (2) - Remove

timestamps fix

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2018-01-18T04:54:39+00:00

Noffy wrote:
Regraz wrote:
Caffe's Neigh
OD-1 SUch high OD makes no sense. fixed
00:03:428 (3,4) - Jump <3 applied jump
00:25:811 (2) - Remove. (Overmapped) removed
00:30:850 (3,1) - Should owns larger spacing than 00:30:616 (2,3) - because of stonger beat. fixed
00:38:702 (2) - Remove (This 1/4 notes does not match with the long vocal well) fixed
00:40:577 (2) - ^ fixed
00:47:725 (1) - Not a good idea to place a strong beat on a slider-end. Also the 1/4 is not matching with the music well. 00:55:225 (1,2,3) - Same fixed
00:51:827 (2) - Remove. fixed
00:52:647 (5,6) - Ought to have a larger spacing here. fixed
00:59:444 (1,2,3) - Some strong beats are placed on slider-ends. You may try this rhythm instead: https://puu.sh/vLGwX/1e10e6ca9f.png fixed
01:05:889 (2) - Remove. fixed
01:09:522 (4,5,6,7) - If you want a rhythm alternation here, you need to keep consistent with corresponding parts in other sections. what does this mean?
01:12:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I dont see any valid reason to use such huge and abrupt jumps. fixed
01:15:147 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^ fixed
01:19:835 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same problems as mentioned above. fixed
01:28:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Such huge spacing differences. Ofc "No" from my side. fixed
01:31:553 (3,4) - Bad flow. fixed
01:32:256 (7,8) - ^ I mean, yeah you could use 1/4 jumps but make sure the flow is nice. fixed
01:37:530 (5) - Ofc this should be a 1/4 slider instead. it is 1/2 00:22:530 - here though
01:40:811 (2) - Remove fixed
timestamps fix

thank you noffy and regraz!!

Noffy

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Noffy 2018-02-07T22:46:25+00:00

[Advanced]

00:13:506 (4) - instead of a 1/1 slider why not a 1/2 reverse like previous similar notes? it could be positioned something like this http://puu.sh/ziRZw/5f4d7e41c2.jpg
00:21:944 (2,1) - overlap (doesn't look that bad tho, polishing is optional)
00:28:975 (1) - why's this not pink
00:36:241 (3,2) - extra overlap, in this case I think it could be adressed by adjusting the postion of 00:37:413 (2) - (and then the notes following it for ds yeah)
00:51:475 (1) - 00:55:225 (1) - I would think it'd be cute if the former was the same shape as the latter, as currently 00:51:475 (1) - is a weird one-off shape that isn't particularly showing off a unique part of the song or anything like that.
01:23:350 (1,2,3,4) - this buildup is <3
01:36:710 (1,2,3) - extreme cute <3

[Hard]

00:23:585 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - vs. 01:38:585 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - very different rhythms for similar parts of the song, and I felt that the latter one worked much better. This is because in particular 00:24:405 (5,1,2,3) - ends up feeling out of place in comparison to other parts of the map which did not follow the vocals so accurately and instead to an extent kept to the cute drums like 00:25:460 - .
01:12:569 (2,3) - please fix this stack, it effects autostacking's visual appearance as well.

[Light Insane]

00:52:647 (3,4) - possibly adjust like this http://puu.sh/ziSWM/3029575277.jpg so it could form an overall curve instead? I think it'd be cute c:
00:53:585 (1,2) - er... I don't usually point these out, but this blanket actually bothered me a lot while playing, could you fix it? :'o
00:58:506 (3) - this final slider is really visually outta place following 00:57:335 (1,2) - these two notes that are like, parallel with eachother in their lines. I think even something like this http://puu.sh/ziT4p/6e46eeea73.jpg could be an improvement over it o:
01:41:631 (3) - Instead of a slider, what about two circles instead? the circle added at 01:41:866 - could then be stacked on 01:42:100 (4) - , which would make the sounds 01:41:866 - 01:42:100 - have the same feeling as 01:42:335 (1,2) - which would fit with how the vocal pitches repeat themselves here.

[Neigh]

00:16:085 - Ok I have rhythm concerns during this section. It's mostly following the vocals which is dandy, but then also follows the drums too, which takes away from following the vocals since so often there aren't vocals where the drums are- making the result feel a bit clustered and not.. following either in particular.
i.e. 00:16:788 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - here 00:16:788 (4) - feels like filler, and 00:17:256 (7) - ends on a strong vocal while 00:17:491 (8) - clicks to a strong drum, but the rest of 00:17:608 (9,10,11) - those circles are clicked to vocals. If you're not spooked by doubles, for instance, in this example point, I think something like http://puu.sh/ziTtG/7175ec7e5b.jpg could work quite well.
For a similar reason I'd suggest something like 00:18:545 (4,5,6) - making this two 1/4 sliders in a row instead.
Or something like 00:20:420 (4,5,6,7) - could have a rhythm such as http://puu.sh/ziTCu/8856ddee7b.jpg instead. I feel that similar cases happen throughout both this section and 01:31:085 - to the point where if I suggested a change for every single one that'd be repeating the same point.. quite a lot.
00:38:585 (1,2,3) - don't really hear any reason for the 1/4 here.
> 00:40:460 (1,2,3) - or here. There's subtle synths, but, still, they're subtle enough that the 1/4 doesn't really strongly follow the song when it's mapped.
> vs. 00:42:217 (6) - this is fine, as the synth is far louder and noticable compared to the other 2 mentioned above.
00:45:030 (4) - really shouldn't be here, and (3) should be seperate from the following stream- the notable 1/4 sounds don't start until 00:45:147 - .
00:48:077 (2) - why not at 00:48:311 - instead? then you'd have a triple following the same type of sound as was present during the stream mentioned in the point above.
> 00:51:710 (1,2,3,4) - same thing, why not have the 1/4 at 00:52:061 - instead of 00:51:827 - .
> 00:55:225 (1,2,3,4) - etc..
01:05:772 (1,2,3) - forcing the 1/4 stack here when there isn't even a strong 1/4 takes away from the regular 1/2 movement that was present throughout 01:04:835 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this entire pattern. I'd suggest removing 01:05:889 (2) - and positioning 01:06:006 (3) - elsewhere that makes sense.
> 01:20:772 (1,2,3) - ^
> 01:21:944 (2,3,4) - ^^
01:37:530 (5,7,8) - the visuals here are a mess due to how much 5 is overlapping the other linked objects.. keep this in mind for fixing when/if you apply changes to the rhythm following my mod during this section.

most of the set is cute
the glitchy vocal sections on neigh make me :s though for the reasons described
unsure about those
(the other things i pointed out with it are smaller and not as big of a deal)

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2018-02-07T23:45:31+00:00

Noffy wrote:
[Advanced]
00:13:506 (4) - instead of a 1/1 slider why not a 1/2 reverse like previous similar notes? it could be positioned something like this http://puu.sh/ziRZw/5f4d7e41c2.jpg fixed
00:21:944 (2,1) - overlap (doesn't look that bad tho, polishing is optional) fixed
00:28:975 (1) - why's this not pink doesn't need to be
00:36:241 (3,2) - extra overlap, in this case I think it could be adressed by adjusting the postion of 00:37:413 (2) - (and then the notes following it for ds yeah) pending marianna
00:51:475 (1) - 00:55:225 (1) - I would think it'd be cute if the former was the same shape as the latter, as currently 00:51:475 (1) - is a weird one-off shape that isn't particularly showing off a unique part of the song or anything like that. pending marianna
01:23:350 (1,2,3,4) - this buildup is <3 thanks
01:36:710 (1,2,3) - extreme cute <3 thanks
[Hard]
00:23:585 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - vs. 01:38:585 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - very different rhythms for similar parts of the song, and I felt that the latter one worked much better. This is because in particular 00:24:405 (5,1,2,3) - ends up feeling out of place in comparison to other parts of the map which did not follow the vocals so accurately and instead to an extent kept to the cute drums like 00:25:460 - . fixed
01:12:569 (2,3) - please fix this stack, it effects autostacking's visual appearance as well. fixed
[Neigh]
00:16:085 - Ok I have rhythm concerns during this section. It's mostly following the vocals which is dandy, but then also follows the drums too, which takes away from following the vocals since so often there aren't vocals where the drums are- making the result feel a bit clustered and not.. following either in particular.
i.e. 00:16:788 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - here 00:16:788 (4) - feels like filler, and 00:17:256 (7) - ends on a strong vocal while 00:17:491 (8) - clicks to a strong drum, but the rest of 00:17:608 (9,10,11) - those circles are clicked to vocals. If you're not spooked by doubles, for instance, in this example point, I think something like http://puu.sh/ziTtG/7175ec7e5b.jpg could work quite well.
For a similar reason I'd suggest something like 00:18:545 (4,5,6) - making this two 1/4 sliders in a row instead.
Or something like 00:20:420 (4,5,6,7) - could have a rhythm such as http://puu.sh/ziTCu/8856ddee7b.jpg instead. I feel that similar cases happen throughout both this section and 01:31:085 - to the point where if I suggested a change for every single one that'd be repeating the same point.. quite a lot.
00:38:585 (1,2,3) - don't really hear any reason for the 1/4 here. bass synth
> 00:40:460 (1,2,3) - or here. There's subtle synths, but, still, they're subtle enough that the 1/4 doesn't really strongly follow the song when it's mapped. I'm noticing this immediatly
> vs. 00:42:217 (6) - this is fine, as the synth is far louder and noticable compared to the other 2 mentioned above. lol it's the same thing just higher in pitch
00:45:030 (4) - really shouldn't be here, and (3) should be seperate from the following stream- the notable 1/4 sounds don't start until 00:45:147 - .you're talking about the synth like it's inconsistent but it's really there quite a few times
00:48:077 (2) - why not at 00:48:311 - instead? then you'd have a triple following the same type of sound as was present during the stream mentioned in the point above.
> 00:51:710 (1,2,3,4) - same thing, why not have the 1/4 at 00:52:061 - instead of 00:51:827 - .
> 00:55:225 (1,2,3,4) - etc..
01:05:772 (1,2,3) - forcing the 1/4 stack here when there isn't even a strong 1/4 takes away from the regular 1/2 movement that was present throughout 01:04:835 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this entire pattern. I'd suggest removing 01:05:889 (2) - and positioning 01:06:006 (3) - elsewhere that makes sense.
> 01:20:772 (1,2,3) - ^
> 01:21:944 (2,3,4) - ^^ all fixed there... since I think it's my fault these got there lmao
01:37:530 (5,7,8) - the visuals here are a mess due to how much 5 is overlapping the other linked objects.. keep this in mind for fixing when/if you apply changes to the rhythm following my mod during this section. can I have some advice on how to fix that? there's nothing inherently wrong with overlap, and I think it's not worth fixing unless you can think of something better :3

most of the set is cute
the glitchy vocal sections on neigh make me :s though for the reasons described
unsure about those
(the other things i pointed out with it are smaller and not as big of a deal)

I'll get like 2 - 3 more mods on Caffe's Neigh before calling you back. Thanks.

Noffy

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Noffy 2018-02-08T00:08:08+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
Noffy wrote:
[Neigh]
00:45:030 (4) - really shouldn't be here, and (3) should be seperate from the following stream- the notable 1/4 sounds don't start until 00:45:147 - .you're talking about the synth like it's inconsistent but it's really there quite a few times because 00:45:147 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - ends up being hit to a far more noticable 1/4 sound immediately following a less noticeable one that 00:45:030 (4) - is mapped to, it blurs them together when realy they shouldn't (imo) be part of 1 pattern) (even if the stack of 00:44:913 (3,4,5) - is probably for this purpose, it just, doesn't work well as it could)
01:37:530 (5,7,8) - the visuals here are a mess due to how much 5 is overlapping the other linked objects.. keep this in mind for fixing when/if you apply changes to the rhythm following my mod during this section. can I have some advice on how to fix that? there's nothing inherently wrong with overlap, and I think it's not worth fixing unless you can think of something better :3 something like this http://puu.sh/ziX4B/862a9b0990.jpg could be good

Seolv

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Seolv 2018-02-11T19:45:01+00:00

uwu

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Caffe's Neigh - -]

00:04:131 (5,6,7) - You seem to be randomly stacking and not stacking, so try to keep it consistent for better structure. What I recommend is unstacking when there's vocals and stacking when there isn't, because that gives vocals more emphasis
00:05:538 (4) - Stack with the sliderend of 00:04:366 (7) - since right now it seems like an accidental overlap
00:06:475 (4) - I don't see why you would change flow and pattern here since the part is basically the same as the previous, try moving it to the right side of the editor
00:07:178 (3) - Since you followed vocals, as shown by the previous jumps, make the sliderend clickable because the sound on 00:07:413 - because of louder vocals and also backup vocalists
00:09:756 (5,6,7) - Spacing here is pretty underwhelming considering the overall 1/2 spacing in this section, without any specific reason as far as I can tell, try making the spacing bigger
00:14:210 (1,2,3,4) - The intensity here decreases, regardless of the vocals still going, I recommend making the spacing smaller for bigger contrast
00:14:913 (4) - The sound on the end of this slider seems prominent and strong, regardless of it being the end of the word, make it clickable
00:16:085 (1) - This circle deserves more emphasis because of the, kick, make the spacing bigger
00:16:319 (2,3,4,5,6) - Chancing the flow too much without any specific reason is pretty bad and makes the playability worse, I recommend following certain flow in one measure, then switching to make sure that it's more comfortable to play and actually makes sense
00:21:241 (7,8,9,10,1) - The vocals here are different than on 00:17:491 (8,9,10,11,1) - you can hear that the sounds on 7 and 9 are a lot more prominent and louder than in the previous section so I recommend you change the pattern
00:24:639 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This is pretty uncomfortable to play, considering the sharp and unjustified change of flow
00:25:811 (2,3,4) - Too big spacing for a 1/4 gap, compared to other 1/4 gaps it's really overwhelmingly big
00:28:858 - Since you were following the vocals it seems weird for you to skip only one vocal here

The issues mostly appear throughout the rest of the diff, worst thing here is the uncomfortable flow that appears in all sections so I recommend taking a look through the whole map and determining which parts have these issues, that's gonna make the map a lot more better and ready for rank.
Hope I helped, good luck Jon =3=

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2018-02-19T21:27:20+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
uwu

[- - Caffe's Neigh - -]
00:04:131 (5,6,7) - You seem to be randomly stacking and not stacking, so try to keep it consistent for better structure. What I recommend is unstacking when there's vocals and stacking when there isn't, because that gives vocals more emphasis I think it's fine for variety
00:05:538 (4) - Stack with the sliderend of 00:04:366 (7) - since right now it seems like an accidental overlap fixed
00:06:475 (4) - I don't see why you would change flow and pattern here since the part is basically the same as the previous, try moving it to the right side of the editor how is the flow changing here...
00:07:178 (3) - Since you followed vocals, as shown by the previous jumps, make the sliderend clickable because the sound on 00:07:413 - because of louder vocals and also backup vocalists fixed
00:09:756 (5,6,7) - Spacing here is pretty underwhelming considering the overall 1/2 spacing in this section, without any specific reason as far as I can tell, try making the spacing bigger fixed
00:14:210 (1,2,3,4) - The intensity here decreases, regardless of the vocals still going, I recommend making the spacing smaller for bigger contrast fixed
00:14:913 (4) - The sound on the end of this slider seems prominent and strong, regardless of it being the end of the word, make it clickable the only way I can think of mapping this would be an extended slider, and I don't want to use one of those
00:16:085 (1) - This circle deserves more emphasis because of the, kick, make the spacing bigger fixed
00:16:319 (2,3,4,5,6) - Chancing the flow too much without any specific reason is pretty bad and makes the playability worse, I recommend following certain flow in one measure, then switching to make sure that it's more comfortable to play and actually makes sense i don't really see the different flows here
00:21:241 (7,8,9,10,1) - The vocals here are different than on 00:17:491 (8,9,10,11,1) - you can hear that the sounds on 7 and 9 are a lot more prominent and louder than in the previous section so I recommend you change the pattern it sound similar to me
00:24:639 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This is pretty uncomfortable to play, considering the sharp and unjustified change of flow fixed
00:25:811 (2,3,4) - Too big spacing for a 1/4 gap, compared to other 1/4 gaps it's really overwhelmingly big fixed
00:28:858 - Since you were following the vocals it seems weird for you to skip only one vocal here fixed

The issues mostly appear throughout the rest of the diff, worst thing here is the uncomfortable flow that appears in all sections so I recommend taking a look through the whole map and determining which parts have these issues, that's gonna make the map a lot more better and ready for rank.
Hope I helped, good luck Jon =3=

@Noffy All Fixed

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Jonarwhal 2018-03-20T01:18:13+00:00

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obrigado por kudosu ataraxia!!!!

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