MikasaSerket wrote:

insane:
ar8 seems very low for the insane despite the song being 142 bpm. my reasoning behind this is just because of the sheer amount of jumps within the map. recommended to boost it up to 8.5. this is optionally really, doesn't effect the playability of the map as much. Changed to AR 8.3, I agree AR8 for a jumpy map isn't the best, but I think 8.5 is a bit too difficult for a lighter insane.

01:10:943 (1,2,3) - fix the overlapping sliders, there really shouldn't be any reason for overlapping sliders. if you were trying to match the distance spacing with the soft music, it's still possible to do that without the sliders being overlapped a pixel. Fixed
03:55:309 (3,4,5) - this slider pattern flows weirdly, try something like this instead. see, it's nice and flowy Fixed! Ty for the suggestion

02:15:168 - Missed note here? There is a very strong cymbal that should be emphasized. Unless you wanted it to end like that and have the break begin on that specific spot. In which case, ignore this. Yeah, its the start of a new phrase and I would have to map the whole break if I started that measure
01:29:535 (1) - I don't hear anything in the music that would indicate a reverse slider like this. The music contains a steady rhythm and beat and this reverse slider would just ruin that. Changed slider to a 1/2 repeat instead of a 1/4. I was trying to emphasize the vibration, but yeah it doesn't fit well
01:52:774 (7) - ctrl+g. gives a nice circular flow. Changed


yehaj

normal:
the spacing in the beginning 00:13:479 - gives a false indication that the (inexperienced) player must click the note a lot earlier than usual because of how close the objects are to each other. increasing the spacing on objects like 00:13:479 (1,2,3) - shouldn't be that big of a problem because the objects are separated by entire 1/1 beats. if anything, use the distance snap function on specifically lower difficulties in this situation (i say this situation because sometimes distance snap isnt only used in lower difficulties. the thing is, it's THAT part specifically. everything else like 00:20:239 (1,2,3,4) - are basically the same rhythm however just spaced more out and it makes a lot more sense than low-spaced overlapping hitcircles. Increased DS to same amt as in 20:239 at 13:479

i say this to all difficulties, check for any unnecessary overlaps. even if the overlaps are a pixel over eachother, still, fix them. unintentional overlaps are ew. some of these aren't even overlaps, some objects are just poorly blanketed. examples could be 00:29:957 (5,1) - 00:24:886 (3,4) - 00:31:647 (3,4) - 00:37:140 (1,2) - 01:16:014 (4,5) - 01:25:732 (4,1) - 01:26:788 (2,3) - 01:48:126 (1,2) - 01:52:351 (2,3) - 01:55:732 (2,3) - 01:57:422 (3,4) - (use the copy and paste function for sliders that blanket eachother like these) 02:04:182 (3,4) - (reasons being either, poorly evenly spaced, bad structure or even just overlaps that dont tie in with the music) I've looked through most of the overlaps in the tester to see if they appear in game, but it probably is just better not to have them, so I will change them!

a ok

KazutoNotxap wrote:

Short Circuit:
1. add a note here, 00:18:443 - I'm pretty sure I'm hitting the sound at 00:18:338 (5) (listened at 25% to make sure)

2. add a note here, 00:21:824 - ^^ There are 2 pieces of audio playing at once and one of them carries on from the red tick to the blue tick, but the one that doesn't carry on fits with the melody being mapped, plus for a slow part I don't think a 1/4 slider would play very well or even be noticeable in play. If other modders think there should be notes here I will most likely add a 1/4 slider starting on the red tick

3. add a note here, 00:25:204 - ^^

4. add a note here, 00:40:309 - The audio at this point dips, (2) on the white tick before-hand is part of the same sound, so I don't think a hit-able object would be correct here, but I am definitely considering a 1/2 slider, I will ask for some opinions of other people, but I'm leaning towards adding it

5. add a note here, 00:48:443 - 00:48:126 (5) - the end of slider 5 encompasses the audio here, which carries on into 48:443, but I dont think that having two clickable objects in the measure really fits with the melody

6. add a note here, 00:51:824 - ^^

7. delete 1 beat off this slider, 00:59:957 - Although there are two distinct sounds, the one at the slider end is a lesser sound than at the slider head, and encompassing both of these sounds into one slider allows for a lot more variability in the patterns (instead of just circles every white and red tick) than if they were both clickable

8. add a 2 beat slider here, 01:00:169 - Reasoning for why I don't think that is correct is ^^

9. delete 1 beat off this slider, 01:00:380 - Same as the one at 00:59:957

10. add a note here, 01:05:345 - Same as the ones above

Insane:

Just do this kind of triple tap here through-out the whole map. Not sure what triple tap thing you mean D: at the kiai times? Cause I'm pretty sure I have that consistently throughout the map

add a note here, 00:18:443 - Same reasoning as the one in Short Circuit

Other than that, the map was great! Thanks <3

Please Kudosu,

-KazutoNotxap

polunochnik wrote:

Hi there!
NM
General tips
All the way I played this map with some discomfort. Seems like you set up offset a little wrong. Your offset now is -42 but in my opinion it should be -34. My timing skills are not very good and i can be wrong, but check this out anyway. I changed offset until it fit for me, but im usually early by ~10 ms so this offset probably fits the average player better, will ask #modhelp as well!

Short Circuit
00:15:169(6) - put NC here and remove NC from 00:16:859(1) Fixed for everything
00:18:872(1) - 00:19:394(1) - remove NC here; try avoid combos which contains only one element. Fixed throughout map
00:21:329 - 00:25:310 ^ (same situation will happens several times again) ^
00:32:704(3) - stack end of this slider with 00:31:859(5) Changed, had been trying to have a good blanket with 3, but yeah def is better to have no overlap
00:38:831(1) - stack here can be better (check third circle in this stack) Fixed, second circle was acting up
04:02:492(5) - stack the begining of this slider with 04:02:069(3) It's part of the pattern to have that overlap imo, cause the jump is getting bigger but its still back and forth, might change this in the future though

Insane
00:18:126(4,5,1) - design of this part is definitely looks not good. Changing all of those to stacks
00:26:155(1) - move this slider down a couple of millimeters Done
00:38:831(1) - remove NC Done
00:40:098(1) - slider should looks better here Changed, and removed the NC
01:08:831(4) - stack it with 01:07:563(1) Moved 3 and 4 to fit
01:29:535(1,2) - this intersection looks weird Changed
02;12:633(6,7,8,9,19) - stack here can be better Ahh, hard sometimes to notice when it doesn't stack correctly, ty
03:35:450(5,6) - ^ Not sure where the overlap on here is wrong, I copy pasted then ctrl + g on 6 so its the same pathway as 5, I think that it fits the pattern to have 5 and 6 overlap like that but I will have to see what others think about it, may change in the future to stop confusion during reading

I hope this mod will be useful for you. It is! Thank you Sorry, it was a tiny bit of in-between mods for this so it was wip a little bit
Good luck! Thanks you too!

Itasha_S13 wrote:

Hello from my modding Queue

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  Short Circuit
  00:22:782 (3,1) - make a line straight with the slider? amm move the circle :p Moved around 2 and 3 so 3 and 1 formed a straight line
  00:32:078 (1) - move the anchor for this to make it very horizontal - :p? I think the slight angle leads well into the rest of the next sliders. I
  00:40:845 - here you're missing a beat, if it was a quiet beat or smth then there's no problem to skip it, but, this sound here its very noticeable, its strong, you should not skip this beat, so why not make the 00:40:739 (2) - a kickslider? like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6212329 so you fill up the sound, and it plays the same as a circle because kickslider Changed, idk how I missed that note lol but yeah I agree it's needed
  00:40:106 (2) - rotate this a bit to point directly to the next circle Changed
  00:42:430 (2) - same here with the kickslider Added kicksliders throughout the map at these locations
  00:40:951 (3,4,5,6) - here, look at the blankets, look at the distance between the circle and the slider, and then look at this one 00:42:641 (3,4,5,6) - they're totally different, fix these 00:42:641 (3,4,5,6) - Changing the slider style so they are consistently curved the same and have the same DS
  00:43:909 (1,2,3,4) - and now here you're using a short distance between circles while in the parts before this, the spacing was higher, but the song didnt decreased the intensity or something to justify the short distance there, so please add more spacing in these :p Changing spacing to be consistent between the jumps
  00:44:120 (2) - and remember the kickslider, I think it would go very well, but still, don't really miss this beat because you can clearly hear it while playing so, don't skip it Changed
  00:46:444 (5,6) - both slider should have the same shape, or at least change this one 00:46:444 (5) - its too edgy :p Changed with the consistency changes
  00:49:191 (2) - move this up
  00:46:444 (5,6) - look at the spacing between these, 00:44:754 (5,6) - and these and then.. 00:49:824 (5,6) - these... why you suddenly used this short spacing ?? Changed spacing to be more consistent
  00:54:895 (5,6) - use equal shapes These are now the same curve, so fixed
  00:56:585 (5) - same here, this shape its more curvy- than the next one.. you should change it because you're not really using the saaame shape in all of these sliders that follow the same sound around the song, and using many different curved sliders will look a bit messy ^^
  01:01:655 (5,6) - I think I haven't noticed it but, be sure that you use this shapes in a consistent way, like.. 00:56:584 (5,6,5,6,5,6) - 3 times curved sliders and then 1 straight slider, then 3 more curved and then 1 straight, it should be 2 - 2 - 2 but you can fix that easy right? All the sliders are now curved so this got fixed
  01:05:036 (5,6) - spacing? short.. not like the rest Fixed
  01:15:599 (4,5,1) - this stack here doesnt go well because you haven't used it before and you used more distance in others like 01:13:064 (2,3,4,5) - so don't stack these like that, or stack more parts like that Adding consistency to these
  01:45:599 (1) - NC this Fixed
  01:37:887 - You should not skip these sounds since they start appearing because you completly miss them here 01:39:999 - and 01:40:422 - here and 01:41:373 - but then you got this 01:43:064 (1,2,3,4) - and then, the stream.. but they appear like too suddenly, so add more kicksliders in the other parts you missed to build it up to the stream or add triplets Agreed, I tried to kind of get into the beat slowly but it does come in too suddenly, fixed
  02:27:007 (1,3) - these shapes could look better imo Lowered the intensity of the curve
  02:42:430 (2) - kicksliders? please :< (and check all the parts like this, I will not mention them all) Yep!
  02:48:134 (5,6) - spacing here.. please Fixed
  02:54:683 (4,5) - spacing ? why so short if you used long spacing before and for all of them Spacing changes throughout map so fixed
  03:47:289 (1) - nc Changed
  03:49:823 - from here to the end I have nothing to say, it goes really really better, gj Ayy I did something right :^)

Gl

Whirl wrote:

hey there, m4m from #modreqs

[General]

- I honestly don't see why you need orange and green combo colours if anything your combo colours should be dark white, light white, black and dark blue (to symbolize for the stars in the sky) Tbh, I didn't really know what combo colors did at the time LOL, changed for all diffs

[Timing]

Check!


[Normal]

00:35:458 (4) - this wave slider needs, major improvement Fixed (I think?)
00:37:148 (1,2) - these are nearly overlapping, I suggest you resnap all your notes to 1.0 Fixed
00:38:416 (3,4) - this anti jump might confuse new players I think there's enough time for them to realize there's another circle
00:43:908 (1) - slider end of this and 00:45:599 (4) - slider end of this overlap Fixed
00:40:528 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - FOR THIS WHOLE SECTION your just using 1/1, 1/2, 1/2 pattern, literally thats all it is, try to be more creative by adding reverse sliders Ahh ye ur right, changing rn
01:18:557 (2,3) - these go halfway off the playing field Fixed
01:26:162 (5,6) - make these identical sliders please Thulike 2mm off, but fixed
01:40:529 (5,1) - blanket please already blanketed with the slider-end
01:50:669 (6,7) - again make these identical (this goes for most of your other notes) Fixed
02:12:641 (2) - the middle anchor isn't doing anything, either remove it or make this a curved slider Curved it


the same problems apply throughout your whole diff!


good luck!

Nherantelon wrote:

Hi !
As demanded on my mod, here is yours :

[Short Circuit]
First, i think it's quite hard to see passages with 1/1 tapping and 1/2 tapping, it'a also hard to notice streams in general. I suggest you (also if it's not the goal) to - at least - lower the DS of streams I think that for a high insane that this is fine, especially with the AR I think the next can be seen pretty well, only thing that I might change are the kicksliders at 02:11:373 (10,11) - but from mine and other's playtesting it seems to be readable
00:22:781(3, 1, 2) : align them Fixed, along with slider 3 of next combo's position (placed on top of 4)
00:24:472(4) : put it on 3 from next combo (and also adjust the previous note's DS) Whoops found this as well, but changed
00:29:331(3) : imo, it's better to reduce this slider from 1/4 (ans same for all those patterns) I had it like that originally as a kickslider but a playtester was confused by the rhythm choice. It's difficult since 2 starts on a blue tick, but I think this is the best way of going about it to make it readable and not confusing (I would've used circles but the change in tempo would be really hard to read)
00:40:528 (all passage) : you should put some variations, because circle - silder - circle x 3 - slider x 2 is quite boring after 5 times. By the fact you're not in kiai time, you could replace occasionnally some 2 circles by 1 slider, or invert sliders with some circles (i know the 1/4 slider fits the music perfectily, im talking about the combo's end) I've had trouble with repetitiveness, since this is a pretty repetitive song. It already has different jump styles but I will also change the rhythm to make it more interested
01:15:598(4, 5, 6) : it should be aligned, even if you lower the 4's DS. Fixed, took a while to find something that worked
01:14:753(2, 3) : You could also Ctrl+G there if you did the last suggest Yep, did this
01:43:063(1, 2, 3, 4) : i didnt like it at all, you could place it with 90° angle (like on a clock, 4h->10h->7h->1h) to have a nicer look Placed 3 and 4 at 6h and 12h respectively
01:54:049(5, 6) : 6 is not ending perfectly on 5, correct it Moved 5 down
02:16:020(3, 4) : fix DS Fixed
02:16:866(1, 2, 3) : could hace a better alignmentFixed (hopefully)
02:20:668(2, 3) : ^ ^^
02:27:851(3) : try to Ctrl+G and adjust bend Bend is same as 1 already
02:35:034(1, 2, 3) : align them
02:38:837(1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3) : its typically what i was talking about at the beginning, DS goes too high too fast, it looks good but you should search for a trick that will prepare the player to increase his attention about jumps Nerfed the DS on the 3rd triangle, I think that was a bit too much but the first two triangles have not been changed
02:42:218 (all passage) : same as previous Fixing as I am the other section
03:08:415(5, 6) : could be better if you align them (like the 5 and 6 from previous combo) Brought 6 down one grid to make 5's slider end and 6's slider head have the same y value
03:18:344(2) : too much curvy Fixed
03:25:316(3) : you could use the same pattern as 1 and 2 Changed 2 to make it a similar pattern to 02:27:007 (1,2,3) -
03:35:457(5, 1) : align them Fixed
03:40:105(2) : try to place its head a little bit to the bottom to have a better alignment Fixed 2 and 3's angle for better pattern
03:41:372(all combo) : i would greatly reduce DS, you have previously use the same DS but for 1/2 notes. When we enter this 1/4 pattern, we're lost. You should also try to put each triplet directly after a white note. Everything could make a better flow Agreed on the bad flow and hard readability, changed to triplets
04:26:583(8, 1) : overlap Fixed
I think your last kiai time has a lot of rythmical issues, im not competent enough to point it out, but while playing we often face the case that it's impossible to differenciate a 1/2 jump pattern and a 1/4 triplet or stream The problem with this is the amount of kicksliders makes it difficult to read sometimes, but they fit the rhythm pretty well I feel. In my other difficulties I don't have kicksliders in this kiai due to the confusion, but I don't necessarily think that the triplets compared to the 1/2 jumps are hard to read (at least to me personally) and I havn't had any issues with playtesters reading it, but for a 4.7* it might be too hard. I'll think about it

I currently cant mod the others diffs (even if i could for insane) because of a big lack of time :'( NP! It's only like 30 secs difference with drain anyway, so I understand
Anyway i hope it helps you^^ It did, ty!
@s+

-himei wrote:

Normal:
00:13:487 (1,4) - please remove overlap
i generally dont like overlaps in easy diff. Fixing thoughout diff
wont mention them again.
00:16:867 (1,2,3,4) - ds? changed 3 from .8 DS to .79 like the rest
00:23:627 (1,2) - ds? DS is the same in the whole combo
00:30:388 (1,2,3,4) - same thing. ds isnt consistent inbetween them. Fixed
plz check this diff for similar issues. Will go through and fix them for each time it pops up
wont mention it again.
00:40:106 (1) - nc? I'm confused by this, already NC'd. If you're saying to remove it, I disagree as it is the start of a new phrase
01:32:500 (3) - lmao move it a bit to the top? Fixed
01:49:824 (4) - nc maybe? Don't think there needs to be an NC on every white tick, I have it on every other white tick but I'm thinking about it.
02:41:796 (4) - nc? Don't think this note should be the NC, as it is the precursor to the next phrase and it would be awkward to have two NC right after each other in an easy diff

well, i guess this diff is good
hs are consistent
flow and structure are good
the only thing i would suggest is to reconsider the ds inbetween some notes, you can take something that ive already mentioned as example.

Hard:
00:17:289 (3) - move it a bit to the top?Fixed
00:17:289 (3) - and 00:17:289 (3) - has the different ds for some reason. why? Fixed, just cause of grid snapping issues, turned it off to fix
00:40:529 (1,2) - they are not parallel http://puu.sh/rwYpm/06ad1b0d4c.jpg Theyre copy pasted and ctrl+g'd, so they should be, I cant seem to find an issue. Is your grid snap on? Cause I used math to make these patterns as well, and sometimes it goes between grids
00:40:951 (2,3) - same thing ^
just use copy paste I did, it's just that you're using grid snapping
00:59:754 (4) - move it a bit to the top? I think it's fine to have the linear flow here
01:12:641 (1,2,3) - this structure is meh...Changed it
01:30:176 (2,4) - same issue, they r not parallel they were but gave them exactly the same point locations to make sure
01:35:881 (4,1) - lmao make it linear? Fixed
01:42:641 (4,1) - ^ Fixed
01:43:486 (2,3) - ^? Fixed
01:49:402 (5) - move it a bit to the top? or just ctrl+h the previous one?Fixed and lined them up
02:26:796 (6) - lmao move it to the right top? Fixed
02:30:176 (6) - a bit to the bot? Fixed
02:36:726 (5,6,7) - whats up with them? why u lost consistency here? Fixed spacing
02:41:796 (2) - nc Same reasoning as earlier
02:43:908 (1,2,3,4) - please... http://puu.sh/rwYHQ/3224cd81fe.jpg Fixed, didn't copy paste these for some reason
03:05:034 (5) - move it a bit to the top to keep the curved flow? Fixed
03:32:289 (3,1) - i think ds shut be larger here I think it's fine
03:32:289 (3,1) - is it intended? http://puu.sh/rwYOd/d4b9403e33.jpg Fixed
04:29:753 (4) - lmao ctrl+g here? Fixed

im done for now.
write me in my mod queue later this week if you want me to mod the rest of the map. i dont care about kds.
glthanks you too

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Lumario wrote:

First of all I think 13498 is the right offset not 11796 Talked to a lot of people abt this and I'm pretty sure it's correct rn <3

Short Circuit:
02:59:330 (2,3,4) - The problem with this part is, that the spacing between the slider (2) and the circle (3) is the same as the spacing between (3) and (4) which makes it hard to hit (3) accurately. (This is just one example of many others but I'm to lazy to write all down ) Using 2 as a kickslider, so it should have around the same distance (also its a pattern that the player will understand after one or two times)

Insane:
02:12:640 (6,7,8,9,10) - The circles are not properly aligned here Fixed stacking error with 6
02:48:145 (5,6) - If you switch these to around and ctrl+g this (5) one it would with the vocals better Ctrl + g on only 5 for better flow I don't think the vocals are too important in this map, as it's mostly dnb

Well that's it I hope I helped even if it isn't that much ^.^ Every mod helps <3
Luma