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t+pazolite - to Luv me, I xxx for u. (REDALiCE Remix) [Taiko

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Stefan
The length
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Ayyri

Nishizumi wrote:

Hi ayyri hi nishi

don't know what i did here
[Oni]

preview time conflicts with other diffs Already changed ytd. xd

the hitsound tooooo loudness, i recommend to do hitsound volume like ltl did. it controlled well I like to be able to hear my drum taps. Thank you though. ;w;

also, please nerf a bit of longstream like 7plet or more because this is oni :< This is a relatively easy pattern, so I'd rather keep it. The song calls for such a thing.

00:20:471 - please nerf this stream orz ^

00:23:028 - make easier pattern like k ddk d K ? I think the current pattern fits better.

00:28:909 - delete this ? i think quintuplet is enough for this ^

00:31:977 - delete this ? same as above ^

00:37:005 - change to kkd ? to avoid consecutive of kat if you see on 1/2 beatsnap Sounds weird for this area.

00:39:477 - delete this ? same as 00:28:909 Same response.

00:40:755 - same as 00:37:005 ^

01:03:596 - change this to k ? pitch of instrument sounds higher than 01:03:937 I think d emphasizes the different pitches better here.

01:20:982 - make this more consistent as 01:18:255 - ? change to k d (remove the triplet) I wanted to emphasize the 1/4 pattern here, so it's different than the 1/2 around it.

01:26:437 - please make this stream easier or at least easy to read orz Similar to the opening point.

01:31:721 - delete this ? to give a little bit break Possibly the note before it, but not this one.

01:33:937 - change to d ? reason same as 00:37:005 Same response.

01:42:630 - same as above ^

01:45:528 - 01:55:755 - 02:07:346 - same ^ ^

02:59:164 - nerf this stream plz :( Similar to my last response to this.

03:00:357 - delete this to give a little bit break ^

03:01:201 - change to d ? reason same as 00:37:005 ^

03:07:176 - same as 03:00:357 ^

03:09:903 - 03:20:812 - 03:28:142 - 03:31:721 - ^ ^

03:40:926 - 03:43:482 - change to d ? reason same as 00:37:005 (and all kind of pattern like this) ^

you have to reduce more notes since it's many of dense stream pattern and long 1/2 notes @_@ The streams themselves aren't that long. (5-7 notes.) Also 1/2 isn't a bad thing.

[Futsuu]

decrease sv to 1.30 ? Doesn't really fit with that SV.

about volume hitsounding, same as oni Same response.

00:15:528 - change to d and move 00:16:039 - to 00:15:869 - if you want to focusing on the vocals (?) *whatever i don't know that =.=* and keep consistent at 00:16:210 by the k d Changed to something different.

01:13:482 - change to k ? kat follows either snare or instrument well Changed.

01:23:369 - delete this ? since the note should be on red and blue tick. also it would be divider between 01:23:028 - and 01:23:710 - (?) Changed to something different.

01:34:278 (19,20) - delete these ? to avoid longnote on 1/2 beatsnap (01:31:892 - to 01:35:301 - it looks kinda long for me if it's futsuu) This section calls for a longer pattern to not sound awkward. But it is still simple enough for Futsuu.

01:41:778 - change to d ? contrast with around Changed differently.

01:56:096 (19,20) - 03:01:551 (19,20) - 03:23:369 (19,20) - same as 01:34:278 Same here.

02:03:596 - 03:09:051 - 03:30:869 - same as 01:41:778 Same response.

02:51:664 - same as 01:13:482 Changed.

04:01:721 - delete this ? to consistent with 03:50:812 This makes the pattern basically the same as in Kantan, and I'd like a bit more variation here.

[Kantan]

decrease sv to 1.20 ? i think this diff need more slow since the pattern is more dense than usual kantan That makes it a bit too slow and awkward. 1.40x is fine.

about volume hitsounding, same as oni Same response.

00:15:528 (16,17) - swap these ? to consistent with 00:18:255 (21,22) - and 00:20:982 (26,27) Changed.

01:02:573 - change to k ? kat follows either snare or instrument well Changed.

01:13:482 - 02:40:755 - 02:51:664 - same as above ^

01:23:369 - somehow i don't like this note, too forcing for me. delete this ? Sounds a bit off without it.

hope it helps you, good luck :) Thank you!
is this thread literally going to be 90% memesters
Aloda
Hey, can I make you a GD for this? :D

Edit: I made one anyway. Feel free to use it or not use it :)
Topic Starter
Ayyri

Aloda wrote:

Hey, can I make you a GD for this? :D

Edit: I made one anyway. Feel free to use it or not use it :)
Hello there!

I am happy to see that you have taken an interest in this song, and even made a GD for it! Unfortunately, I would like to keep this mapset as difficulties only created by Lost The Lights and myself.

Sorry about that!
Aloda

Ayyri wrote:

Aloda wrote:

Hey, can I make you a GD for this? :D

Edit: I made one anyway. Feel free to use it or not use it :)
Hello there!

I am happy to see that you have taken an interest in this song, and even made a GD for it! Unfortunately, I would like to keep this mapset as difficulties only created by Lost The Lights and myself.

Sorry about that!
No worries, good luck with the mapset :)
IControl
Nm Request from in game

Kantan

In general I think the spinners might be to hard for new players for example 01:49:619 (1) - this is is followed up by D d k and before it is d k. This would require some stamina to do all together.


01:53:710 (6,7,8,9,10) - this is too long imo try 01:54:051 (7,8) - ctrl g 01:54:732 (9) - remove


02:45:187 (110) - I don't think this note is necessary remove


03:39:392 (43) - this could be remove comparing it to 02:12:119 (42) - it's a lot quieter so I wouldn't map to slider to show the difference in sounds you could add a note here 03:39:392 (43) -

Futsuu


In general It's to dense for example 00:03:937 (4,5,6,7,8) - these d k d k d that you use a lot during the map could be improved by removing 00:04:448 (7) -


00:05:301 (8,9) - these in the beginning don't sound necessary and should be removed It sounded fine removed over here 00:02:573 -

To also help make your futsuu less dense you could change your 5's into 3's or doubles Ex: 00:28:482 (70,71,72,73,74) - remove 00:28:994 (73) - or remove 00:28:653 (71) -

Another example is 00:31:551 (81) - removing this.

I'm sure your a good enough mapper to find the rest :)


LTL Muzu


It's really hard to find anything wrong good job


Oni

In general I think some parts at the beginning could be improved

00:02:488 (4) - remove I think removing that note will help the beat from 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) - to stand out more


00:03:938 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - cltrl g to match this beat 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) -


remove 00:04:534 (20) -


00:05:982 (31,32) - ctrl g sounds lower than higher


00:07:516 (41) - these could be removed and this 00:07:686 (42) - could be changed to k

Also I think the kai time could be better

01:32:403 (27) - d sounds lower


01:34:704 (44,45) - these 2 should be removed if your mapping to piano


01:35:897 (50,51) - same here


01:36:835 - add k


01:33:255 - If your are mapping to piano then this beat becomes unclear to me why you sometimes left it out and other times didn't


01:39:477 (74) - I don't see why these are needed


these like this could be improved


LTL Inner

01:10:329 (312,313) - changes these to dk? the piano sounds higher here

01:10:585 (314) - d sounds lower

01:10:926 (316) - k sounds higher and matches the other ones 01:08:028 (298,299) -


Good luck :)
IControl

Stefan wrote:

The length

The length wasn't that bad because its mostly copy and paste after first kai time which is about 1:50
Topic Starter
Ayyri

IControl wrote:

Nm Request from in game

Kantan

In general I think the spinners might be to hard for new players for example 01:49:619 (1) - this is is followed up by D d k and before it is d k. This would require some stamina to do all together. I don't really agree with this. Maybe if it was more dense, I would consider changing it. But I would prefer to keep it.


01:53:710 (6,7,8,9,10) - this is too long imo try 01:54:051 (7,8) - ctrl g 01:54:732 (9) - remove Don't agree with this pattern, but I'll see if someone else brings this up.


02:45:187 (110) - I don't think this note is necessary remove This is right where the rhythm repeats. It's showing a difference in pattern / rhythm here.


03:39:392 (43) - this could be remove comparing it to 02:12:119 (42) - it's a lot quieter so I wouldn't map to slider to show the difference in sounds you could add a note here 03:39:392 (43) - I think the slider sounds fine, it's not supposed to be following the same sound as the other slider.

Futsuu


In general It's to dense for example 00:03:937 (4,5,6,7,8) - these d k d k d that you use a lot during the map could be improved by removing 00:04:448 (7) - I don't agree with this, I'll see what someone else says.


00:05:301 (8,9) - these in the beginning don't sound necessary and should be removed It sounded fine removed over here 00:02:573 - Those are following the same sound as 00:03:937 - and 00:04:107 - , as well as any other pattern here.

To also help make your futsuu less dense you could change your 5's into 3's or doubles Ex: 00:28:482 (70,71,72,73,74) - remove 00:28:994 (73) - or remove 00:28:653 (71) - The rhythm changes for these parts, which would warrant a longer pattern. Cutting them down even shorter sounds rather odd, and doesn't show much change in the song / rhythm.

Another example is 00:31:551 (81) - removing this. ^

Oni

In general I think some parts at the beginning could be improved

00:02:488 (4) - remove I think removing that note will help the beat from 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) - to stand out more That's completely skipping the beat, and it feels like that's doing the opposite of what you intended.


00:03:938 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - cltrl g to match this beat 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) - Didn't agree with the first point, so I don't agree here either.


remove 00:04:534 (20) - I don't really see any reason why, the sound that it's mapped to is justifiable.


00:05:982 (31,32) - ctrl g sounds lower than higher Disagree. 00:05:982 - sounds higher to me.


00:07:516 (41) - these could be removed and this 00:07:686 (42) - could be changed to k I think the current pattern fits a bit better.

Also I think the kai time could be better

01:32:403 (27) - d sounds lower That's ignoring the melody that's going on here.


01:34:704 (44,45) - these 2 should be removed if your mapping to piano These two aren't following the piano, since the piano stops abruptly, and causes a weird break here.


01:35:897 (50,51) - same here ^


01:36:835 - add k That removes the break here. ;w;


01:33:255 - If your are mapping to piano then this beat becomes unclear to me why you sometimes left it out and other times didn't Different patterns for variation, as well as different parts for the piano itself.


01:39:477 (74) - I don't see why these are needed Same reason as 01:34:704 -


these like this could be improved
ghm12
Please, calm down.

I understand you're upset because your suggestions got refused, but you shouldn't just start blaming everyone.
If they refused your points, I'm sure there's a reason for it. Instead of offending, you could explain it in a better way so the mapper can consider changing what you suggested.
IControl

ghm12 wrote:

Please, calm down.

I understand you're upset because your suggestions got refused, but you shouldn't just start blaming everyone.
If they refused your points, I'm sure there's a reason for it. Instead of offending, you could explain it in a better way so the mapper can consider changing what you suggested.
Yes there is a reason. She's to much up on a high horse to see that's shes wrong for not giving kudos and then shes gets other people to deal with her problems that in itself is very wrong. And even if i did explain it better it would still be useless just like when i tired to explain why i was mad before.
Noffy

IControl wrote:

shes gets other people to deal with her problems

Hi, she did not tell anyone to take care of it for her. That was something done on our own initiative. She did not write a reply straight away because she was at school, and the first thing she's been doing since she got home is exactly that :( Please don't blame her for our actions :o
Topic Starter
Ayyri
Okay, a lot of unnecessary things happened here, and I would like to address iControl's main concerns here.

Why did he not get kudosu, and why I rejected his mod.

For the first point, I would like to say that it isn't right to only quote one part of the osu!wiki's Kudosu page. Because doing so, leaves out a very important line.

osu!wiki wrote:

  1. If you can answer yes to all of these questions, feel free to give the modder their well-earned kudosu!
Instead, you chose to quote what you thought was the reason I rejected your mod, even though I was able to respond with reasons as to why I did not accept your points.

osu!wiki wrote:

  1. Even if you don't follow the modder's advice, did you not follow it because of your personal choice only, and not because the modding seemed pointless to you?
(This point)

And that actually is very, very wrong. I did not once say that I didn't accept a point because it affected my "style" (Which would be my personal opinion.) nor because I thought it sounded wrong. (You said that I gave responses like "This sounds weird", when the closest I got was "These two aren't following the piano, since the piano stops abruptly, and causes a weird break here." which even then, is explained.)

But, to clear up things for you, I will explain more so in depth as to why I rejected each point.

[Kantan]
  1. In general I think the spinners might be to hard for new players for example 01:49:619 (1) - this is is followed up by D d k and before it is d k. This would require some stamina to do all together. The spinners themselves, fit the song quite well. And it would be good for consistency if they could stay the same in all of the difficulties. Which, they can. Because there is a good amount of time between the end of the spinner, which is at 01:28:823 - and the next note, which happens at 01:29:164 - (The start of the kiai.) That's 1 measure of nothing. I think it would be even more confusing to have 4 measures of break, and wondering when the next note will come. (Since probably the best alternative would to have a note at 01:27:801 - or completely ignore the sound, which would make things even more awkward for a beginner player.
  2. 01:53:710 (6,7,8,9,10) - this is too long imo try 01:54:051 (7,8) - ctrl g 01:54:732 (9) - remove This is pattern is after 2 notes with have 2 measures of a break between them, which would warrant something a biiiiit more difficult to happen afterwards. Which is where the melody has the most amount of sounds that could be mapped. And even afterwards, there are notes with 2 measures of a break inbetween them. So what you're suggesting would honestly just make the kiai very, very bland and unexciting for a newer player to play.
  3. 02:45:187 (110) - I don't think this note is necessary remove Like I stated before, this is where the rhythm repeats. If every other part of the rhythm here has a consistent pattern for the player to follow, then this one part has a slightly different rhythm than those, don't you think it would be good to emphasize that? This is the calm part of the song. Not much is going on here, so there's basically always a 1 measure or 2 measure break between all of the notes here. Making even more breaks seems like an oversimplification of this section.
  4. 03:39:392 (43) - this could be remove comparing it to 02:12:119 (42) - it's a lot quieter so I wouldn't map to slider to show the difference in sounds you could add a note here 03:39:392 (43) - Again, like I stated previously, this sound isn't supposed to be following the same sound as 00:23:028 - nor 02:12:119 - . The sounds here come rather quickly after each other. So mapping 4 sounds to one note sounds really weak and lacking, when you could have something there. As well as the fact that it wouldn't lead into 03:40:073 - as smoothly as it currently does. There would be a 2 measure gap, unmapped, between the two sounds. When there is clearly something happening in the song here.
[Futsuu]
  1. In general It's to dense for example 00:03:937 (4,5,6,7,8) - these d k d k d that you use a lot during the map could be improved by removing 00:04:448 (7) - Removing the note at 00:04:448 - would make this pattern feel oddly mapped in relation to what is going on in the song, in the background. Because the sound at 00:04:448 - , is equally the same as the sound at 00:03:937 - and 00:04:278 - . So why map the first two, but not the third one? There's a good amount of space between each pattern to make such a thing possible. Having repeated 2 measure breaks in a Futsuu makes things feel really empty. It's supposed to be a step up from Kantan, not the same.
  2. 00:05:301 (8,9) - these in the beginning don't sound necessary and should be removed It sounded fine removed over here 00:02:573 - Removing these would be completely ignoring the kick and snare that is happening here. This is also mapped in every difficulty, except for Kantan. Where the open follows a different rhythm than the faster one that is most noticable, and mapped to from Futsuu up. (Since making that simple would play really weirdly.) So instead of removing these two notes like you suggested, and creating an overly large 4 measure break, when there is something simple that could be mapped to, I think it would be best to leave it as is.
  3. To also help make your futsuu less dense you could change your 5's into 3's or doubles Ex: 00:28:482 (70,71,72,73,74) - remove 00:28:994 (73) - or remove 00:28:653 (71) - Like I said for 00:03:937 - making the parts where the rhythm is more intense, a bit more dense than the other parts that have either 1 measure or 2 measure breaks, is justified by the amount of breaks that occur within this section.
  4. Another example is 00:31:551 (81) - removing this. Pretty much explained why I didn't accept this point with the above point's explanation. But also, for this one specifically, removing this note would be removing a note that's following the main rhythm of this section. Not a note here sounds, and plays badly, since it's a part of the main rhythm, and should be there.
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:488 (4) - remove I think removing that note will help the beat from 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) - to stand out more I said this previously but, going this would completely skip the beat, and would feel like that's doing the opposite of what you intended. Because that just emphasizes the fact that the kick at 00:02:488 - is being skipped, and makes the pattern at 00:02:403 - flow a lot less smoothly than following the kick, and keeping the current pattern that is there.
  2. 00:03:938 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - cltrl g to match this beat 00:02:573 (4,5,6,7,8) - I didn't accept the first point, so this would make this suggestion null and void. But even then, this suggestion completely ignores the kicks and snares that are going on here, which is what is being mapped. Also, this suggestion doesn't even really match with what you suggested in the first point. So if I had accepted the first point, I probably would not have accepted this one. Because it's rhythmically wrong.
  3. remove 00:04:534 (20) - Unlike your other points, you didn't even bother to give a reason why. I understand that it follows what you said in the first two points, but explaining yourself is a lot better than just saying "Do this." But still, I explained why I didn't accept why I didn't accept this type of rhythm change in the first two points about this section.
  4. 00:05:982 (31,32) - ctrl g sounds lower than higher Like I said, I think the opposite of what you suggested should be here. 00:05:982 - There is a clear kick here, and the sound at 00:06:323 - isn't that strong. Also 00:03:596 - and 00:04:960 - are following the same sound that you suggested be changed to a d, yet those two seem to be fine as well. So please, try to think of consistency, and why patterns are what they are, in relation to each other. That makes things flow a lot more natural.
  5. 00:07:516 (41) - these could be removed and this 00:07:686 (42) - could be changed to k The sound at 00:07:517 - is following the same sound that 00:06:664 - is. Removing this note would be ignoring the drums that are happening here. Besides that, it would make things inconsistent between all of the patterns.
  6. 01:32:403 (27) - d sounds lower Like I said before, changing 01:32:403 - to d would be ignoring the melody here by not having it emphasized with a change in color. So to avoid that from happening this will remain a k, to better follow the rhythm that is happening here.
  7. 01:34:704 (44,45) - these 2 should be removed if your mapping to piano What's mapped within the kiai isn't strictly following the piano. If it did, the kiai would be the same or less dense than the rest of the map, when it's supposed to be more dense. Removing these two notes would be ignoring the underlying rhythm that is occurring here, which is something I don't want to happen. (This is what I meant by causing a "weird break")
  8. 01:35:897 (50,51) - same here I didn't accept the first point about this, so I still don't agree with the second point regarding this.
  9. 01:36:835 - add k There's a break here intentionally, and the rhythm that is occurring here can justify why it's here as well. The piano stops, and the underlying rhythm isn't too strong here.
  10. 01:33:255 - If your are mapping to piano then this beat becomes unclear to me why you sometimes left it out and other times didn't Like I said before, the piano doesn't have to be the only thing that is followed here. There can be variation throughout the patterns to make the kiai a bit more exciting to play. Otherwise it would just become the same pattern over, and over again. That's why this happens every other time.
  11. 01:39:477 (74) - I don't see why these are needed The same reason that I gave for 01:34:704 - and 01:33:255 -. I didn't agree with this there, so I still don't agree with this here.
Overall, I hope that this has explained why I didn't accept the points that you gave, which would result in me not finding your mod helpful. But that doesn't mean that I'm not thanking you for putting forth the effort to do this mod. I would gladly thank anyone that mods my maps. Because that takes time. No mod is pointless. If something is of concern to you, you should voice it. But that doesn't mean that I, nor anyone else is forced to agree with what you stated or suggested.

So please. Do not be mad over the fact that you did not get kudosu. There are more important things that you could be using that energy for. I did not mean to disrespect you in any manner nor upset you.

Thank you for your mod, and your time.
IControl
Ok if you didn't want to disrespect me why didn't you give me kudos? And you completely miss read the osu wiki "Even if you don't follow the modder's advice, did you not follow it because of your personal choice only, and not because the modding seemed pointless to you?" Let me break down what this means for you.

1) You didn't like my advice or mod "which im fine with"
2) You cannot deny me kudos because it didn't follow your personal choice. "Your personal choice is not just your style obviously. It's what you think is best for the map. And you gave plenty of reasons of what you think is the best for the map. Honestly you could write essays for all my points but that's still not a valid reason for you to deny me kudos "

3) You can deny me kudos because it seems pointless "I agree "

I hope you understand that even if you give valid reasons for not agree with somebody you should still respect there opinions by at least giving the kudos. And Also its not just about my mod you do it to a lot of people and I'm sick of it
Stefan

Stefan wrote:

The length
[Inner Oni]
00:27:715 (38) - It kinda breaks the flow with the note which appears too early to play, instead you could move it to 00:28:056 - and change as k or at 00:28:227 - and keep as d.
01:15:698 (346) - might remove since you used this idea before, on 01:09:903 (309,310,311,312,313) - .
01:23:369 - It feels pretty odd you haven't add a note here depsite it actually sounds okay to map this beat.
01:47:744 (575) - k note? Play-wise it feels okay, sound-wise it fits very well.
02:09:562 (757) - ^desu
02:14:761 (784) - It feels like forced and less natural to play that stream, d ddkkd sounds way more enjoyable to play than ddddkkd.
03:11:437 (1195) - k note?
03:15:017 (1236) - Same thing as 01:47:744 (575) -.
03:33:255 (1399) - ~
03:36:835 (1440) - ~~

[Oni]
00:02:403 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - and 00:05:130 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - I am a little bit worried if that really will work since this is something you consider to use in everything above Oni + it looks pretty harsh with Muzukashii. Generally a nerf in their lenght would be necessary since the pattern aren't that complex but the lenght makes them harder than needed.
00:41:948 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - Another stream pattern I don't really recommened to use in the set for Oni, remove 00:42:374 (274) - in this case. That'd be sound-wise the smartest idea.
00:44:846 (289,290,291,292,293,294,295) - What about to make this as kkddk k instead? 00:44:931 (290) - Fits better with the "beam" sound and 00:45:016 (291) - stays d for the dark beat in the background.
01:11:437 (406,407) - Wouldn't they sound better if they're switched, since 01:10:926 (404,405,408,409) - are the same way mapped it's odd you suddenly changed your mind here.
01:30:102 (8) - Relating to the first issue above this note could easily be removed and the pattern section made easier by that. Also, it wouldn't ruin the purpose of the ddkdk pattern.
01:31:721 - The break phase is really weird imo, I agree to add breaks for the song here is annoying but it can be done pretty well. Have the break on 01:32:062 - instead and remove 01:32:062 (23,24) - .
01:42:971 (105) - I'd say you keep your continous mapping for the next kiai section, let's stay a bit calmer until the 2nd kiai.
02:37:517 (244,245) - switch them, (245) sounds way more about to k.
02:59:761 (29) - the d note feels much more like an unnecessary filler for this case, I recommend to remove it.
03:12:630 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137) - To make this section simpler, nerf it to kdk k kdk (the single k could be replaced with d tho).
03:14:761 (146) - same case as 02:59:761 (29) - .

I might forgot to mention some parts which relates to the points above, sorry. D: Generally what I felt is that it looks too dense in the Kiai section, I deliberately haven't said anything above since I am not 100% if it's just me. It feels really rough if you move from the Muzukashii to your Oni, or generally at most of the Muzukashii difficulties.

[Muzukashii]
Talked with LTL via PM about the multi-colored triplets but they are apparently fine, so I have nothing else to say about it, +1 Like.

[Futsuu]
00:02:573 - and 00:02:744 - I understand for a little why you haven't added notes on these parts but... it feels weird. I mean, I'd rather remove 00:05:301 (8,9) - and having that consistent but that's what I feel.
01:14:676 (189,190) - Wouldn't they sound better if you switch them and move 1/2 back? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/H3onlDVC That's what I feel.
01:47:573 (59) - What about moving this note to 01:48:085 - ? Else I'd recommend to remove.
02:09:391 (58) - ^ to 02:09:903 - .
02:48:767 (148,149) - I would move them 1/2 back, it sounds more reasoned by this way.
02:52:858 (159,160) - pretty much the same like 01:14:676 (189,190) - .
03:14:846 (59) - same like 01:47:573 (59) - .
03:36:664 (58) - same like 02:09:391 (58) - .

[Kantan]
Looks good for now!

ayy
Noffy
[Kantan]
01:44:164 - Please move to 01:44:335 - as by placing it on the downbeat forcefully, you ignore the sound you mapped at 01:43:312 (29) - and make the spacing time wise from 01:42:801 - to 01:44:846 - confusing to read. This isn't a problem in futsuu, since you mapped both the red tick sound and the downbeat, but here I feel the red tick is more important for the rhythm you began to follow before suddenly ignoring it.
02:05:982 - -> 02:06:153 -
03:11:437 - -> 03:11:607 -
03:33:255 - -> 03:33:426 -

Also consider making these mentioned/moved notes a kat to match the 01:43:312 - beforehand.


I'm sorry I'm not good enough at taiko to find anything else, please stop asking me to mod your maps ayyri they're too solid for me :?
Topic Starter
Ayyri

Stefan wrote:

[Oni]
00:02:403 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - and 00:05:130 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - I am a little bit worried if that really will work since this is something you consider to use in everything above Oni + it looks pretty harsh with Muzukashii. Generally a nerf in their lenght would be necessary since the pattern aren't that complex but the lenght makes them harder than needed. Simplified them a bit, but not too much.
00:41:948 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - Another stream pattern I don't really recommened to use in the set for Oni, remove 00:42:374 (274) - in this case. That'd be sound-wise the smartest idea. Remove that note and the one before this pattern.
00:44:846 (289,290,291,292,293,294,295) - What about to make this as kkddk k instead? 00:44:931 (290) - Fits better with the "beam" sound and 00:45:016 (291) - stays d for the dark beat in the background. Changed.
01:11:437 (406,407) - Wouldn't they sound better if they're switched, since 01:10:926 (404,405,408,409) - are the same way mapped it's odd you suddenly changed your mind here. Tbh, it was for pitch and variety.
01:30:102 (8) - Relating to the first issue above this note could easily be removed and the pattern section made easier by that. Also, it wouldn't ruin the purpose of the ddkdk pattern. Removed that note, but made the overall pattern different from what you suggested.
01:31:721 - The break phase is really weird imo, I agree to add breaks for the song here is annoying but it can be done pretty well. Have the break on 01:32:062 - instead and remove 01:32:062 (23,24) - . I'd prefer to have the break between the melody parts, but I will see what someone else says about this.
01:42:971 (105) - I'd say you keep your continous mapping for the next kiai section, let's stay a bit calmer until the 2nd kiai. Changed.
02:37:517 (244,245) - switch them, (245) sounds way more about to k. Changed.
02:59:761 (29) - the d note feels much more like an unnecessary filler for this case, I recommend to remove it. Changed the overall pattern.
03:12:630 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137) - To make this section simpler, nerf it to kdk k kdk (the single k could be replaced with d tho).
03:14:761 (146) - same case as 02:59:761 (29) - . Changed this section differently.

I might forgot to mention some parts which relates to the points above, sorry. D: Generally what I felt is that it looks too dense in the Kiai section, I deliberately haven't said anything above since I am not 100% if it's just me. It feels really rough if you move from the Muzukashii to your Oni, or generally at most of the Muzukashii difficulties. The later kiais were purposely a bit harder for better spread with the Inner Oni.

[Futsuu]
00:02:573 - and 00:02:744 - I understand for a little why you haven't added notes on these parts but... it feels weird. I mean, I'd rather remove 00:05:301 (8,9) - and having that consistent but that's what I feel. I wasn't really aiming to follow the weird kicks in the beginning with the lower two difficulties, but I can understand what you mean here. This will be considered.
01:14:676 (189,190) - Wouldn't they sound better if you switch them and move 1/2 back? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/H3onlDVC That's what I feel. Changed.
01:47:573 (59) - What about moving this note to 01:48:085 - ? Else I'd recommend to remove. Changed.
02:09:391 (58) - ^ to 02:09:903 - . Changed.
02:48:767 (148,149) - I would move them 1/2 back, it sounds more reasoned by this way. I can agree with having a beat on 02:48:596 - with that line of reasoning, but that would be ignoring the kick at 02:48:937 - . And it's pretty loud, and doesn't happen as frequently as the other sounds in this section do. So I'll just add a note at 02:48:596 - and have it be ddk.
02:52:858 (159,160) - pretty much the same like 01:14:676 (189,190) - . Changed.
03:14:846 (59) - same like 01:47:573 (59) - . Changed.
03:36:664 (58) - same like 02:09:391 (58) - . Changed.

[Kantan]
Looks good for now! Sweet!

ayy ri

Noffy wrote:

[Kantan]
01:44:164 - Please move to 01:44:335 - as by placing it on the downbeat forcefull, you ignore the sound you mapped at 01:43:312 (29) - and make the spacing time wise from 01:42:801 - to 01:44:846 - confusing to read. This isn't a problem in futsuu, since you mapped both the red tick sound and the downbeat, but here I feel the red tick is more important for the rhythm you began to follow before suddenly ignoring it.
02:05:982 - -> 02:06:153 -
03:11:437 - -> 03:11:607 -
03:33:255 - -> 03:33:426 -

Already told you my thoughts about this via voice. While I agree with this, I also disagree with it, due to how high the sound is where the current note is vs. where you want the note to be placed. So this will likely be applied for now, but possibly changed later.

Also consider making these a kat to match the 01:43:312 - beforehand.


I'm sorry I'm not good enough at taiko to find anything else, please stop asking me to mod your maps ahri they're too solid for me :?
Lost The Lights

Stefan wrote:

Stefan wrote:

The length
[Inner Oni]
00:27:715 (38) - It kinda breaks the flow with the note which appears too early to play, instead you could move it to 00:28:056 - and change as k or at 00:28:227 - and keep as d. I'll move it to 00:28:056 - and keep it as a d, this was originally the plan.
01:15:698 (346) - might remove since you used this idea before, on 01:09:903 (309,310,311,312,313) - . Oh, this is because in the first one there is a sound, in the second there isn't. That explains why I used a note there and not in the second part.
01:23:369 - It feels pretty odd you haven't add a note here depsite it actually sounds okay to map this beat.Made on purpose, in my opinion it feels nice to have a kd and that break, makes something fun atleast imo.
01:47:744 (575) - k note? Play-wise it feels okay, sound-wise it fits very well. Agreed, changed.
02:09:562 (757) - ^desu ^
02:14:761 (784) - It feels like forced and less natural to play that stream, d ddkkd sounds way more enjoyable to play than ddddkkd. It's not forced at all, if you listen carefully you can hear the sounds, so I'm keeping it.
03:11:437 (1195) - k note? This is on purpose again, the sound is different than in 03:10:926 - or in 03:11:948 - . The variety fits in my opinion, so I'll keep it.
03:15:017 (1236) - Same thing as 01:47:744 (575) -. Yes.
03:33:255 (1399) - ~ Rejected with the same reason.
03:36:835 (1440) - ~~ Yes again.

[Muzukashii]
Talked with LTL via PM about the multi-colored triplets but they are apparently fine, so I have nothing else to say about it, +1 Like. :^)

ayy
Thanks for the mod Stefan!

LTL's Inner Oni
http://puu.sh/rhjdH/361e1251bd.osu
Lost The Lights
Okay, since you think your diffs are bad, lemme mod them.

[Kantan]
  1. 00:28:823 - I think k d instead of d k would sound better here, just my opinion tho.
  2. 00:33:255 - To mark the constant change of tone, I would suggest d k d k d.
  3. 00:48:937 - imo this should be k, sounds too different to 00:48:255 - and 00:49:619 -
  4. 00:51:664 - ^
  5. 00:54:392 - ^
  6. 01:11:096 - It breaks the consistency if you use 5 notes here since you didn't use any other pattern with 5 notes before, so you can just move this note to 01:12:460 - to fix this.
  7. 01:32:232 - Doesn't this sound like k to you? At least it does for me.
  8. 01:34:619 - Same, I think this would sound better as k.
  9. 01:54:732 - Add a d for consistency with 01:32:914 -
  10. 01:56:437 - Same as before, I think this would sound better as k.
  11. 02:16:210 - You know the thing.
  12. 02:18:937 - ^
  13. 02:21:664 - ^
  14. 02:24:392 - YOU DID IT HERE, I'M PROUD OF YOU.
  15. 02:27:119 - And again, k.
  16. 02:29:846 - ^
  17. 02:32:573 - ^
  18. 02:49:278 - As I suggested before, move to 02:50:642 -
  19. 02:59:505 - As before, this sounds like k to me.
  20. 03:01:892 - ^
  21. 03:21:323 - ^
  22. 03:23:710 - ^
  23. 03:45:187 - As I suggested on the first point, k d would sound better imo.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:301 - Well, you're gonna use k d or d k like 00:02:573 - ? Pick one. I suggest you use k d for the first one since you used k d in all other patterns.
  2. 00:40:073 - d k d fits better for the melody imo.
  3. 00:48:937 - Same as Kantan.
  4. 00:54:392 - ^
  5. 01:02:914 - Honestly, you could move this to 01:03:085 - and 01:03:255 - to 01:03:596 - and it would fit the melody better.
  6. 01:31:892 - As Kantan, I think this sounds better as k.
  7. 01:53:710 - ^
  8. 02:16:210 - You know the drill.
  9. 02:21:664 - ^
  10. 02:27:119 - ^
  11. 02:32:573 - ^
  12. 02:41:096 - As I suggested before, you could move this to 02:41:267 - and 02:41:437 - to 02:41:778 -
  13. 02:59:164 - As before, k fits better imo.
  14. 03:20:982 - ^
  15. 03:45:528 - d k d fits better, as suggested before.
  16. 03:56:437 - ^
[Oni]
  1. 00:01:892 - You could try a similar rhythm like I did. Starting with D instead of K, and here 00:03:767 - having ddd kdk k d. I think it fits way better to the rhythm.
  2. 00:09:903 - kkd fits better imo.
  3. 00:12:630 - ^
  4. 00:15:357 - ^
  5. 00:21:068 - This note is not really necessary, you can remove it.
  6. 00:21:664 - I would change to d for the vocal.
  7. 00:23:198 - I'm not sure if this is following anything (if it is I don't think it fits). I would suggest to do as my Inner, which I think fits better, doing K D here 00:23:028 -
  8. 00:33:937 - This part is getting calmer, so this stream breaks the flow imo. try removing 00:34:022 - and 00:34:363 - I think it fits better.
  9. 00:39:818 - Not really needed, you can delete it.
  10. 00:44:846 - As I suggested before, K D would be better than this, you can do whatever you want tho.
  11. 01:21:068 - Same here, I don't think this is really needed.
  12. 01:22:772 - ^
  13. 01:23:454 - I would suggest to remove this and move 01:23:198 - to 01:23:284 - which actually fits more to the vocal/drums.
  14. 01:30:443 - Okay so, The kiai needs a little bit of nerfing, way too hard if we compare it to muzu. I suggest you remove this note and change 01:30:528 - to d here.
  15. 01:34:193 - Same here, remove this and change 01:34:278 - to d.
  16. 01:34:704 - Remove, no need to have this note imo, there's no sound that needs a remark there.
  17. 01:35:897 - ^
  18. 01:39:647 - ^
  19. 01:41:181 - 01:41:352 - remove those two and change 01:41:437 - to d. I think it fits way better.
  20. 01:45:784 - Remove, as before, no need to have this.
  21. Well, you can change the next kiai yourself.
  22. 02:12:119 - As I mentioned before, you can do just K D here.
  23. 02:57:545 - Like the other kiais, this needs nerfing. Remove that note and 02:57:715 - and change 02:57:801 - to d.
  24. 02:59:761 - Remove like I suggested in the other kiais.
  25. 03:02:147 - ^
  26. 03:03:170 - ^
  27. 03:06:920 - ^
  28. 03:08:454 - 03:08:624 - Remove and 03:08:710 - change to d.
  29. 03:12:886 - Remove as before.
  30. 03:14:761 - ^
  31. Since the next kiai is also different,03:19:363 - 03:19:534 - 03:21:238 - 03:21:579 - Remove those two for nerfing purposes ofc and change 03:19:619 - to d.
  32. If you really wanna keep this kdk 03:23:880 - remove 03:23:795 -
  33. 03:24:988 - Remove as suggested before.
  34. 03:28:738 - ^
  35. 03:30:272 - You know the drill.
  36. 03:34:193 - ^
  37. 03:34:704 - 03:35:045 - Remove and change 03:35:130 - to d please.
  38. 03:36:579 - Remove as before.
  39. 03:41:181 - You can remove this here.
  40. 03:43:738 - ^
  41. 03:45:272 - ^
  42. 03:46:465 - ^
  43. 03:47:999 - ^
  44. 03:49:193 - ^
  45. 03:50:727 - ^
  46. 03:52:090 - This is more calm than before, so remove this and 03:52:431 - .
  47. 03:54:647 - 03:54:988 - ^
  48. 03:56:181 - ^
  49. 03:57:374 - 03:57:715 - ^
  50. 03:58:909 - ^
  51. 04:00:102 - 04:00:443 - ^
This should improve the diffs a lot.
LigerZero
No Kudosu

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Topic Starter
Ayyri

LigerZero wrote:

No Kudosu

Tags added "Tomoyuki Hamada 浜田知幸 c.h.s hardcore tano*c TCSLCD-0003 yoshikazu nagai akai hito"

source: http://vgmdb.net/album/30498 and http://www.tano-c.net/disc/tcslcd-0003/
To be honest, I don't see the reason to add his real name, since he never uses it aside from personal use. He uses his handle for everything. Plus I already had C.H.S, since it's the circle label that t+pazolite owns. :v Also please don't use vgmdb as a source for metadata, it's not reliable.

Lost The Lights wrote:

Okay, since you think your diffs are bad, lemme mod them. ok mr. you should buff oni lmao

[Kantan]
  1. 00:28:823 - I think k d instead of d k would sound better here, just my opinion tho. Changed.
  2. 00:33:255 - To mark the constant change of tone, I would suggest d k d k d. Changed.
  3. 00:48:937 - imo this should be k, sounds too different to 00:48:255 - and 00:49:619 - Changed.
  4. 00:51:664 - ^ Changed.
  5. 00:54:392 - ^ Changed.
  6. 01:11:096 - It breaks the consistency if you use 5 notes here since you didn't use any other pattern with 5 notes before, so you can just move this note to 01:12:460 - to fix this. Changed.
  7. 01:32:232 - Doesn't this sound like k to you? At least it does for me. Changed.
  8. 01:34:619 - Same, I think this would sound better as k. Changed.
  9. 01:54:732 - Add a d for consistency with 01:32:914 - Changed.
  10. 01:56:437 - Same as before, I think this would sound better as k. Changed.
  11. 02:16:210 - You know the thing. Changed.
  12. 02:18:937 - ^ Changed.
  13. 02:21:664 - ^ Changed.
  14. 02:24:392 - YOU DID IT HERE, I'M PROUD OF YOU. Thanks fam.
  15. 02:27:119 - And again, k. Changed.
  16. 02:29:846 - ^ But this is a k? ;__;
  17. 02:32:573 - ^ Changed.
  18. 02:49:278 - As I suggested before, move to 02:50:642 - Changed.
  19. 02:59:505 - As before, this sounds like k to me. Changed.
  20. 03:01:892 - ^ Changed.
  21. 03:21:323 - ^ Changed.
  22. 03:23:710 - ^ Changed.
  23. 03:45:187 - As I suggested on the first point, k d would sound better imo. Changed.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:301 - Well, you're gonna use k d or d k like 00:02:573 - ? Pick one. I suggest you use k d for the first one since you used k d in all other patterns. Changed.
  2. 00:40:073 - d k d fits better for the melody imo. Changed.
  3. 00:48:937 - Same as Kantan. Changed.
  4. 00:54:392 - ^ Changed.
  5. 01:02:914 - Honestly, you could move this to 01:03:085 - and 01:03:255 - to 01:03:596 - and it would fit the melody better. Changed.
  6. 01:31:892 - As Kantan, I think this sounds better as k. Changed.
  7. 01:53:710 - ^ Changed.
  8. 02:16:210 - You know the drill. Changed.
  9. 02:21:664 - ^ Changed.
  10. 02:27:119 - ^ Changed.
  11. 02:32:573 - ^ Changed.
  12. 02:41:096 - As I suggested before, you could move this to 02:41:267 - and 02:41:437 - to 02:41:778 - Changed.
  13. 02:59:164 - As before, k fits better imo. Changed.
  14. 03:20:982 - ^ Changed.
  15. 03:45:528 - d k d fits better, as suggested before. Changed.
  16. 03:56:437 - ^ Changed.
[Oni]
  1. 00:01:892 - You could try a similar rhythm like I did. Starting with D instead of K, and here 00:03:767 - having ddd kdk k d. I think it fits way better to the rhythm. I actually don't agree with this rhythm. I think K d kkd kdk k d fits better.
  2. 00:09:903 - kkd fits better imo. Changed.
  3. 00:12:630 - ^ Changed.
  4. 00:15:357 - ^ Changed.
  5. 00:21:068 - This note is not really necessary, you can remove it. Changed.
  6. 00:21:664 - I would change to d for the vocal. Tbh, that's why I have this as k. Because the vocal is being held out here, and using a d seems a bit weak for that.
  7. 00:23:198 - I'm not sure if this is following anything (if it is I don't think it fits). I would suggest to do as my Inner, which I think fits better, doing K D here 00:23:028 -
  8. 00:33:937 - This part is getting calmer, so this stream breaks the flow imo. try removing 00:34:022 - and 00:34:363 - I think it fits better. That's actually why it's there. Because it's building up into the next section, at 00:34:619 - .
  9. 00:39:818 - Not really needed, you can delete it. Changed.
  10. 00:44:846 - As I suggested before, K D would be better than this, you can do whatever you want tho. Same response as before.
  11. 01:21:068 - Same here, I don't think this is really needed. It's following the vocal. :v
  12. 01:22:772 - ^ ^
  13. 01:23:454 - I would suggest to remove this and move 01:23:198 - to 01:23:284 - which actually fits more to the vocal/drums. Changed.
  14. 01:30:443 - Okay so, The kiai needs a little bit of nerfing, way too hard if we compare it to muzu. I suggest you remove this note and change 01:30:528 - to d here. Changed. I wonder whose fault that is. (^:
  15. 01:34:193 - Same here, remove this and change 01:34:278 - to d. Changed.
  16. 01:34:704 - Remove, no need to have this note imo, there's no sound that needs a remark there. Changed.
  17. 01:35:897 - ^ Changed.
  18. 01:39:647 - ^ Changed.
  19. 01:41:181 - 01:41:352 - remove those two and change 01:41:437 - to d. I think it fits way better. Changed.
  20. 01:45:784 - Remove, as before, no need to have this. Changed.
  21. Well, you can change the next kiai yourself. Fudge you LTL. (^:
  22. 02:12:119 - As I mentioned before, you can do just K D here. You know what this is.
  23. 02:57:545 - Like the other kiais, this needs nerfing. Remove that note and 02:57:715 - and change 02:57:801 - to d. Changed.
  24. 02:59:761 - Remove like I suggested in the other kiais. Changed.
  25. 03:02:147 - ^ Changed.
  26. 03:03:170 - ^ Changed.
  27. 03:06:920 - ^ Changed.
  28. 03:08:454 - 03:08:624 - Remove and 03:08:710 - change to d. Changed.
  29. 03:12:886 - Remove as before. Changed.
  30. 03:14:761 - ^ Changed.
  31. Since the next kiai is also different,03:19:363 - 03:19:534 - 03:21:238 - 03:21:579 - Remove those two for nerfing purposes ofc and change 03:19:619 - to d. Changed.
  32. If you really wanna keep this kdk 03:23:880 - remove 03:23:795 - Changed, and made it like the pattern from the third kiai.
  33. 03:24:988 - Remove as suggested before. Changed.
  34. 03:28:738 - ^ Changed.
  35. 03:30:272 - You know the drill. Changed.
  36. 03:34:193 - ^ Changed.
  37. 03:34:704 - 03:35:045 - Remove and change 03:35:130 - to d please. Changed, and made it similar to a previous pattern.
  38. 03:36:579 - Remove as before. Changed.
  39. 03:41:181 - You can remove this here. Changed.
  40. 03:43:738 - ^ Changed.
  41. 03:45:272 - ^ Changed.
  42. 03:46:465 - ^ Changed.
  43. 03:47:999 - ^ Changed.
  44. 03:49:193 - ^ Changed.
  45. 03:50:727 - ^ Changed.
  46. 03:52:090 - This is more calm than before, so remove this and 03:52:431 - . Changed.
  47. 03:54:647 - 03:54:988 - ^ Changed.
  48. 03:56:181 - ^ Changed.
  49. 03:57:374 - 03:57:715 - ^ Changed.
  50. 03:58:909 - ^ Changed.
  51. 04:00:102 - 04:00:443 - ^ Changed.
Mayoi Namekuji
hi
i did the thing with promising mods again so here i am


Couldn't find anything on Futsuu or Kantan (I still remember the time you told me that nobody will mod a 4 minute Futsuu though)

LTL's Muzukashii
00:46:892 - add d, not sure why would you keep that one empty considering you mapped all the other places with very similar samples
00:49:619 - ^
00:52:346 - ^
00:55:073 - either do the same as the one before or delete following three notes and put a spinner there
01:49:278 - add a d, background beat is too spicy not to
01:20:471 - add a d, it works better with the background noise which you followed untill this point
01:20:812 - ^

Oni
Just some general recommendations, can't properly mod this atm
01:09:903 (383,384) - Easy triplet imo, either ddk if you want to keep the pattern or ddd if you don't really care
00:21:835 - spinner/slider?
01:27:630 (488) - move 1/4 of a beat and put d where it used to be or just switch to d. As far as I can tell, the k isn't justified by anything in the music
00:07:261 - add k, you did it at 00:04:363 (15) and 00:09:988 (46) not sure why not now.
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