http://www.vg247.com/2011/03/03/sonys-ngp-developer-chat-at-gdc-showcases-augmented-reality-the-camera/
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to tell you frankly, I'm kinda excited on this 1
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to tell you frankly, I'm kinda excited on this 1
omg I want it soooo bad! >.< It looks awesome that article got me to excited xP
I wonder how ridiculous the price will be. The 3DS will certainly own this sales-wise, no doubt about it.
Does it even have an official name, or are they still flip-flopping between NGP and PSP2?
I think portable gaming should be more casual, the NGP has too much horsepower
If you want that level of graphics or gameplay I see buying a console a much better option imo
If you want that level of graphics or gameplay I see buying a console a much better option imo
Because as we all know, you can't have "casual" games on a platform unless it's weak enough.FruitTingles wrote:
I think portable gaming should be more casual, the NGP has too much horsepower
Why? Did good graphics kill your parents or something? Did they molest you as a child? Why would you rather have bad graphics on a handheld?FruitTingles wrote:
If you want that level of graphics [...] I see buying a console a much better option imo
If complex and immersive games weren't desirable on a handheld, we'd all be gaming on iPhones.FruitTingles wrote:
or gameplay
FruitTingles wrote:
I don't like progress.
They might have a point; too much new expensive hardware could make the hardware ridiculously expensive to buy. Remember what happened with the PS3?
I just got outed :SLoginer wrote:
gaming on iPhones
Portable gaming can only be so immersive and I think tossing birds around is enough to keep one entertained long enough to go home or wherever and play games on a console where they can play whatever graphics intensive or engaging game
Sure, if you want to think of portable gaming only as a distraction while you're taking a bus, then play your disposable ipod games. You almost always get what you pay for; a fun little time waster that you will most likely discard the minute you're done with it.FruitTingles wrote:
Portable gaming can only be so immersive and I think tossing birds around is enough to keep one entertained long enough to go home or wherever and play games on a console where they can play whatever graphics intensive or engaging game
And it's not like the NGP wont have
Uncharted for PSP2 looks uncomfortable to play in that tech demo. I do not want to have to switch between buttons and touchscreen during action segments because it is clumsy, dangerous, and poor in terms of usability. Not to mention occasionally ambiguous. Moving a scope by moving the system I can get behind because it doesn't require you to change your grip on the system, but it would have limitations in a crowded area and also be harder to get away with when being played in a lecture hall or cubicle where you shouldn't be playing it in the first place
It would be interesting to see what gets done with this, but for the meantime, I'm quite content to play Tactics Ogre, Duodecim and DJMax on my PSP.
I think the point is that when handheld systems get too advanced, they start to cost as much as (or more than) the "real" home consoles, and basically people expect to pay less for portable stuff than they do for real stuff. I wouldn't suggest that they should intentionally throttle the graphics processor for the hell of it, but I think it's reasonable to point out that the 3DS at $250 is probably the most expensive handheld that many people are willing to buy, so if Sony is putting $350 worth of hardware into the NGP they're going to have trouble selling it in a way that makes sense.Loginer wrote:
Why would you rather have bad graphics on a handheld?
If complex and immersive games weren't desirable on a handheld, we'd all be gaming on iPhones.If the iPhone had some decent buttons and a d-pad it'd basically be the perfect portable game system.
As long as I can music, video, game and homebrew, I'm fine.
That being said, I use my DS as a chunky mp3 player.
That being said, I use my DS as a chunky mp3 player.
The NGP will likely be shitty for the first four years or so, then it'll get a fuckin' amazing lineup of games and everyone will be forced to buy it out of sheer awesomeness (and reduced cost).
There are already price rumors floating around, that the Wifi model will be 250 and the 3G model 350.
Also awp, the Uncharted tech demos are just showcasing alternative control schemes. You can still climb, jump, etc with conventional input.
Also awp, the Uncharted tech demos are just showcasing alternative control schemes. You can still climb, jump, etc with conventional input.
So you're saying that it will only be good for a year or two before its inevitable successor? The DS wasn't like that at all.Ivalset wrote:
The NGP will likely be shitty for the first four years or so, then it'll get a fuckin' amazing lineup of games and everyone will be forced to buy it out of sheer awesomeness (and reduced cost).
The current generation of consoles is not going away any time soon. If the NGP gains enough developer support, it might end up doubling as a serious substitute for a stationary console.LuigiHann wrote:
I think the point is that when handheld systems get too advanced, they start to cost as much as (or more than) the "real" home consoles, and basically people expect to pay less for portable stuff than they do for real stuff.
The components of the 3DS are worth roughly $100, so it's very much possible for Sony to compete at the same price point if they're willing to sell early NGP's at a small loss. And I'm sure plenty of gamers would be willing to pay $300 or more for a launch NGP if Sony make sure it actually has a solid lineup of games available on day one.LuigiHann wrote:
I think it's reasonable to point out that the 3DS at $250 is probably the most expensive handheld that many people are willing to buy, so if Sony is putting $350 worth of hardware into the NGP they're going to have trouble selling it in a way that makes sense.
Agreed, but the reality is that it only has a single good game (Infinity Blade) after almost four years on the market. As far as serious smartphone gaming goes, I'm more optimistic about the future of PlayStation Certified phones like the Xperia Play.LuigiHann wrote:
If the iPhone had some decent buttons and a d-pad it'd basically be the perfect portable game system.
Who said anything about the DS?Behonkiss wrote:
So you're saying that it will only be good for a year or two before its inevitable successor? The DS wasn't like that at all.Ivalset wrote:
The NGP will likely be shitty for the first four years or so, then it'll get a fuckin' amazing lineup of games and everyone will be forced to buy it out of sheer awesomeness (and reduced cost).
I was relating it to the PSP. I thought that was pretty clear. The last few years for DS has been pretty unremarkable anyway, while the PSP lineup in 2010 and 2011 has been nothing short of incredible.
I thought so, too.Ivalset wrote:
I was relating it to the PSP. I thought that was pretty clear. The last few years for DS has been pretty unremarkable anyway, while the PSP lineup in 2010 and 2011 has been nothing short of incredible.
I never noticed the dry spell of the PSP's early years because a week after I got mine I had SNES/PSX running on mine and that's a goldmine of good titles
The price won't really matter to me unless it's absurdely high (extremely close to the PS3). If the system has amazing features that makes the PSP obsolete and is worth the price, I will be happy to sell my PSP and buy the NGP once I save up enough money.
I'm considering getting it, but only after a few revisions, price drops and cracks. After all, I have a PC and a PS3 to make me not feel desperate to buy one (though the lineup of games in the PSP had me wanting)
Speaking of PSP, is the NGP backwards compatible?
Speaking of PSP, is the NGP backwards compatible?
Most likely only with download content.
Uncharted.
Bioshock.
Little Big Planet.
Street Fighter X Tekken.
$249.
Nintendo is finished.
Bioshock.
Little Big Planet.
Street Fighter X Tekken.
$249.
Nintendo is finished.
AT&T!!!!!
I was sold the very moment I heard the name.
so what the PSV is a phone too?Ivalset wrote:
AT&T!!!!!
Someone pointed out somewhere that the Vita was the fifth playstation-brand product and Vita's a very fitting name:
PS1
PS2
PS3
PSP
PSV
V being a roman numeral
$249 is a very surprising competitive price point. Gonna be some fighting when it comes out
It's helluva expensive in Japan though.
Can't really argue with a price like that. I'll be watching this.
I was looking at the Vita (E3 stuff) and saw it's price. I must admit I was surprised at it's cost (I expected at least $300). Then I had a conversation with a few people and they were all shouting it's praises for being that cheap but being able to dish out that much power, I was almost convinced.
But then as I was holding my legs in the corner, realising that my newly bought PSPwas going to become obsolete and didn't have anyway to save it's stuff yet, I thought, "Wait a minute! If I buy a memory stick it's going to cost me $55. That just brought my PSP price up to $225."
Back to the Vita.
Ok so it's price is $249 for the standard one but when you factor in the price of the memory stick... I don't think the price is all that flashy anymore. Granted that $55 was for a 16gb stick (Aus pricing here, mind you). Who knows what the memory cards that the Vita uses will cost (I am assuming they are using new cards).
Seeing as this has been bugging me for a bit I have turned to a third party for another opinion, what do you guys/girls think about it? Am I being too skeptical and should lay down and surrender to the powerhouse that is Sony?
Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to actually reading/watching past the announcement day so maybe my questions have been answered but I need to sleep.
But then as I was holding my legs in the corner, realising that my newly bought PSP
Back to the Vita.
Ok so it's price is $249 for the standard one but when you factor in the price of the memory stick... I don't think the price is all that flashy anymore. Granted that $55 was for a 16gb stick (Aus pricing here, mind you). Who knows what the memory cards that the Vita uses will cost (I am assuming they are using new cards).
Seeing as this has been bugging me for a bit I have turned to a third party for another opinion, what do you guys/girls think about it? Am I being too skeptical and should lay down and surrender to the powerhouse that is Sony?
Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to actually reading/watching past the announcement day so maybe my questions have been answered but I need to sleep.
I use a 2gb stick for my psp. I don't remember how much I paid for it back then, but they're like ten bucks now.
Then again, I don't use portable consoles for their portability.
Then again, I don't use portable consoles for their portability.
I thought it was the shit. It out did the 3DS in my book. You have 2 analog sticks, 2 touch screens, and has wifi and 3G*.
All for the same price for a 3DS. But that was my opinion, so you don't really need to take it seriously.
*With 3G, its 50 bucks more.
All for the same price for a 3DS. But that was my opinion, so you don't really need to take it seriously.
*With 3G, its 50 bucks more.
PSP was an emulation beast. As long as that homebrew community embraces the PSV likewise, it'll be good, because the PSP couldn't handle N64/PS2. And if the PSV can handle PS2, it's going to be an amazing handheld.
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And if the PSV can handle PS2, it's going to be an amazing handheld.
Completely agree with you here.