Raiden wrote:

I did not expect a bubble here yet.

00:00:155 - why is this section 100% volume but then 00:19:355 - 85%? First one is notoriously less loud.done
00:28:955 - The sudden density drop makes it somewhat awkward. The music goes louder, and kicks start to get potent. So correct interpretation would be to make the second part more intense.done
02:06:155 (1030,1031,1032,1033,1034,1035,1036,1037,1038,1039,1040,1041,1042,1043,1044,1045,1046) - what is this following...? I can't hear a clear structure here. Correct percussion following would be something like this http://puu.sh/scozd.jpg (some notes were modified for flow purposes)done
02:07:280 - There is no note heredone
02:38:930 - why ignore this note?done
02:40:880 - ^okey
02:48:230 (171) - this should be a don and 02:48:680 (177,178) - ctrl+g for proper snare emphasisdone
02:49:205 (182) - kat ^done
04:01:355 - should have less volume, and some variation wouldn't hurt, like changing 04:02:705 (8) - to kat and some following notesdone
04:10:955 - add 1/2s when there is melody. Density drop does not fit here.done
04:20:555 - This SV transition looks quite poor and not worked on. Use a transition SV to smooth it out.alright
05:02:837 - guitar is still going full 1/4 until 05:05:237 - , why did you stop?ok
05:05:837 - this pattern is not full 1/4, it has stops at 05:05:912 (123) - 05:06:362 (129) - 05:06:662 (133) - done
05:12:437 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217) - totally unacceptable. While guitar may seem like having a weird snap, simplifying the rhythm to 1/4 is the best choice here, as the number of notes played do work with 1/4 snap.rip free pp
05:21:437 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - why is this all 1/4 if you were following guitar?i fixed
05:22:037 - I don't understand the structure of this stream... what is it following? To me it seems like a random mixture of kdddk and dkkkd with some kdk in the middle.fixed
05:26:768 - why is this empty if the song is still full nuts 1/4?okey
06:34:037 - red line is not neccessary, lands exactly on the 4th measure you're right
07:17:237 - this certainly is NOT full 1/4
in fact full 1/4 starts HERE 07:22:037 - and ends on 07:24:437 - okey
07:26:837 - again, full 1/4 doesnt start until 07:28:037 - and ends on 07:29:237 -
then starts again at 07:31:637 - and ends 07:34:037 - ok
07:36:437 - starts again and ends 07:39:137 - yes

OD6,5 is probably better okey

I probably missed many other points where you ignored/added notes, so probably better if you get some more mods (from experienced modders) before pushing this forward again

UnderminE wrote:

Bubble için çok acele etme bence, amacın mapi en güzel şekilde sunmak olsun. Hemen oldu bittiye ranked olursa böyle daha çok şurası şöyle olmuş böyle olmuş diyen çıkar :/ Biraz daha mod topla bence.

Surono wrote:

=L_=

>General
* Raiden said 06:34:037 - here is unnecessary with red lines, but with evens metronome is fit lol *play with NC* but no problem, 06:33:887 - move this end of kiai to 06:34:037 - here
* 07:42:437 - this really unnecessary red lines

>Mod
* 01:19:655 (579,580,581,582) - change these to kat, follow the snare drum. 01:19:505 (578) - if you want change it to don for transition sound
* 02:01:505 (976,977,978,979) - make d kkd. there is no drum sound 02:01:580 -
* 02:02:555 (986,987,988) - I feels this forced and inconsistent with previous similar spot like this, 02:02:630 - delete this and 02:02:555 - fill finisher, like you did 02:00:155 - 02:01:355 -
* 02:09:455 (1052,1053,1054) - why this different with those kkd, even the sound is same? change it to kkd. you already have variation at 02:12:305 (1075,1076,1077) - and 02:14:105 (1089,1090,1091,1094,1095,1096) - these
* 02:15:230 - add don, consistent with previous 5plet structure and follow the guitar.
* I hear full drum in here 02:15:905 -, fill don on 02:15:980 - and 02:16:280 - as ddkkddkkd
* 02:20:105 - change kat? the guitar shrill works better with kkkdk
* 02:22:580 - change kat, it sounds not monotone, that wave guitar
* 02:24:830 - change don, 02:15:230 - it sounds similar and if you applied there
* 02:48:455 (176,177,178,179,180) - ddkdk, bcus 02:48:605 (178,180) - those snare drum
* 02:54:680 - change don if you hear that guitar flows
* 02:58:730 - I hear this drum is clear, add don
* 03:31:505 (115,116,117,118) - like previous 02:01:580 - same spot, change to d kkd
* 02:01:505 (976,977,978,979) - ^ change to K d
* 03:45:230 - my previous point for similar spot is don. you need variation here, change don
* 03:45:905 - like previous previous, ddkkddkkd
* 03:54:830 - don, like previous. kdddk
* 04:24:702 - do you want it kat for wave of guitar?
* 04:45:966 (316) - 04:46:672 (318) - 04:47:378 (320) - 04:48:084 (322) - unsnapd slider end
* 05:21:587 - change kat, high guitar
* 05:27:287 (114,115,116,117,118,119,120) - this is pain but nvm, because rarely to hit like these pattern. oh well, at least it was innovation!
* 05:36:362 - I think here is monotone and the drum as well, change don as ddd
* 05:37:262 - kat this as transition of guitar
* 05:41:087 (285,286,287,288,289) - between here is awkward to hear and play, 05:41:612 - move to 05:41:462 - here and change kat
* 05:46:487 - me nub
* 06:07:637 (296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - same reason 2nd above, change these as kdkdkkk kdkdkkd
* 06:11:387 (343,344) - ctrl g as dkkdkkd, the transition of guitar works better right?
* 06:33:062 (213,219) - I think on this stream you could change don as layering random cymbal sound
* 06:52:037 (408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422) - if you want change like this http://puu.sh/scJXJ/b3ce48e456.jpg because the tom drum it sounds like repeating and I dont hear the transition with your current pattern. fine but awkward if you keep those
* 07:01:637 (500,501) - change kat as kkk, all drum is high right?
* 07:05:387 (537,538,539,540) - like previous, d kkd
* 07:06:437 (547,548,549) - ^ K d
* 07:12:887 (629) - don and 07:12:737 (627,631) - change kat bcus the snare drum start can be listen here.
* 07:13:637 (639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649) - kkddkdkdkkd, reason same above
* 07:14:837 (655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669) - http://puu.sh/scKAp/6a33ef67ee.jpg reason same above
* 07:36:887 - don, 07:37:487 (892,893) - don, 07:37:637 (894) - and kat. transition should be like this

transition pattern for drum sound just like making new transition as layering vocal or guitar mostly. Inconsistent just at chorus and a bit awkward pattern on guitar but seems overall well mapped at guitar.

dont kudos, I have 1 on top post. this last I help you because many times I did it again in-game lol. find modders more, Good Luck!

02:59 zigizigiefe: MY SOOOOL AND MY ZIGIRIT WILL GO OOON
03:03 zigizigiefe: will you post on forum or is that irc mod?
03:04 zigizigiefe: :D
03:04 Surono: ye
03:05 zigizigiefe: im going to sleeping
03:05 zigizigiefe: thats why now i am lazy to edit this :D
03:05 Surono: thats good.
03:05 Surono: wait mods then selfmod.
03:05 zigizigiefe: wat
03:05 Surono: dont change anything before modders looks ur map.
03:06 Surono: .... do you need mods, if you afraid with ur hands *lol
03:06 zigizigiefe: or now i don't sleep
03:06 zigizigiefe: i'll sleep 1 hour later xD
03:07 Surono: haha
03:07 zigizigiefe: :D
03:07 zigizigiefe: im waiting for your modding :D
03:50 Surono: done
03:50 Surono: good luck
03:50 zigizigiefe: lol
03:50 zigizigiefe: okey :D
03:50 Surono: really you wont 1/8 it back?
04:18 zigizigiefe: sur
04:18 zigizigiefe: i have a question
04:18 Surono: yes
04:18 zigizigiefe: oh
04:18 zigizigiefe: nothing
04:18 zigizigiefe: my bad lol
04:18 Surono: there is my bad suggestion u disagree?
04:18 zigizigiefe: nope
04:18 zigizigiefe: i got it wrong
04:19 zigizigiefe: oh there is a thunder
04:19 zigizigiefe: oh
04:19 zigizigiefe: im dead lol
04:19 zigizigiefe: whatever..
04:19 Surono: XD
04:19 zigizigiefe: i will edit map till the powercut lol
04:26 zigizigiefe: oh wait
04:27 Surono: huh
04:27 zigizigiefe: http://puu.sh/scOpu/c3894e7c75.png i didnt understand this part
04:27 Surono: finisher kat, then don
04:27 Surono: 1/2
04:27 Surono: kkd > K d
04:27 Surono: delete kat in middle
04:28 zigizigiefe: oh okay :D
04:28 zigizigiefe: http://puu.sh/scOti/49528883eb.jpg like this?
04:28 Surono: previously u have 2 finisher on Vocal. so there is too
04:28 zigizigiefe: consecutive two finishers lol
04:28 zigizigiefe: :D
04:28 Surono: yes
04:28 zigizigiefe: okey
04:29 Surono: wait.
04:29 Surono: where is there
04:29 Surono: link me that spot.
04:29 zigizigiefe: 02:01:355 (975,976) -
04:29 Surono: wat...
04:29 Surono: 02:01:505 - d kkd
04:29 Surono: 02:02:555 - K d is here
04:29 zigizigiefe: oh lol
04:30 Surono: my link is wrong?
04:30 Surono: on thread?
04:30 zigizigiefe: i guess
04:30 Surono: uh
04:30 Surono: I check it...
04:30 zigizigiefe: :D
04:30 Surono: noice surno..
04:31 zigizigiefe: :D:D
04:31 Surono: why?
04:31 zigizigiefe: oh,i forgot fixing sliders
04:31 Surono: are u laugh to me =_=
04:32 Surono: 02:01:505 - every like this... change to d kkd
04:32 Surono: 02:02:555 - then this K d
04:32 zigizigiefe: nope
04:32 Surono: well. I forget to copypaste mostly.. just focusing on wording.. so yeah sorry
04:33 zigizigiefe: 05:21:437 (38,39,40,41,42,43) - can i change to kkkdkkd?
04:33 zigizigiefe: http://puu.sh/scOPI/48852fb94e.jpg like this
04:33 Surono: ikr.
04:33 Surono: yes., with guitar is ok
04:33 zigizigiefe: [http://puu.sh/scOPI/48852fb94e.jpg lol]
04:34 Surono: ikr [2]
04:34 zigizigiefe: :D
04:35 Surono: =_= i feel ur is like cold but forced to be hype person.....
04:35 Surono: stop with ":D :D D D D "
04:35 Surono: with out eyes.. is better
04:35 Surono: D
04:35 zigizigiefe: i am eyeless cat
04:35 Surono: `_L`
04:35 zigizigiefe: thats why im sp00ky
04:35 Surono: too spooky
04:41 zigizigiefe: 07:12:437 (622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631) -  if there will be kddddkdddk,it looks bad
04:41 zigizigiefe: maybe kddddkkddk?
04:41 Surono: did you see my suggestion?
04:41 Surono: to follow snare drum?
04:42 zigizigiefe: yeag
04:42 zigizigiefe: yeah*
04:42 Surono: yes
04:42 zigizigiefe: maybe kddddkkdk
04:42 Surono: 07:12:887 - this don
04:42 zigizigiefe: i think this will be better
04:42 Surono: 07:12:737 (627,631) - these cat
04:42 zigizigiefe: yeah
04:42 zigizigiefe: done
04:43 Surono: ok
04:43 Surono: just ok...
04:43 zigizigiefe: im surprised
04:43 Surono: ....
04:43 zigizigiefe: okey
04:43 zigizigiefe: done
04:43 zigizigiefe: i will update
04:43 Surono: surprised..
04:43 Surono: then u talkin with ur current pattern
04:44 Surono: thats weird ~_~
04:44 zigizigiefe: :d
04:44 Surono: ye
04:44 zigizigiefe: yeah
04:44 zigizigiefe: but..idk
04:44 Surono: yeah
04:44 Surono: u just confused with my english
04:44 Surono: thats simple really english rip
04:44 zigizigiefe: nope
04:44 zigizigiefe: i can understand you
04:44 Surono: same
04:44 Surono: just update it, then I play it
04:44 zigizigiefe: updated
04:46 zigizigiefe: ah,i forgot
04:46 zigizigiefe: THANKS FOR MODDING SENPAI <3
04:46 Surono: fuq lag
04:47 zigizigiefe: sad
04:47 Surono: np, .,
04:53 zigizigiefe: LOL
04:53 zigizigiefe: i am spooky kat xd
04:54 Surono: 02:25:580 - 
04:54 Surono: 02:25:880 - 
04:54 zigizigiefe: sorry
04:54 zigizigiefe: my bad
04:55 zigizigiefe: can i add don?
04:55 Surono: yes, both
04:55 Surono: consistent with previous ddkkddkkd
04:55 Surono: 02:42:380 - i dont hear guitar, just vocal.. kkdkd overdone... change don
04:55 zigizigiefe: 03:55:580 -
04:56 Surono: 02:41:255 (104,105,106,107,108,109) - then ddkkk d
04:56 zigizigiefe: should i add don ? xd
04:56 Surono: as variation
04:56 Surono: yes efe.. both of that
04:56 Surono: u now looks like a baby =_=
04:56 zigizigiefe: okey
04:56 zigizigiefe: sorry
04:56 Surono: :3
04:57 Surono: 02:45:080 - kat this
04:58 zigizigiefe: done
04:58 Surono: 03:50:180 - kat this, thrill gita
04:58 Surono: r
04:59 zigizigiefe: DONe
04:59 Surono: 03:55:505 (325,326,327,328,329,330,331) - u forget here too..
04:59 Surono: next time when mapping.. check every similar/same part...
04:59 zigizigiefe: i added
04:59 zigizigiefe: :D
04:59 zigizigiefe: or fixed
04:59 Surono: thats same
04:59 Surono: lol
05:02 Surono: 04:20:555 (71) - finisher
05:02 Surono: 04:20:330 - add kat
05:03 zigizigiefe: okey
05:03 Surono: how u looks me, I like BN? when modding and help u? lol
05:03 zigizigiefe: you're like a BN xd
05:03 Surono: haha, but not this time..
05:08 Surono: 05:02:237 (90,91,92) - anyway, change it to dkd
05:08 Surono: kdk seems over, except if its drum
05:08 Surono: *high drum
05:11 zigizigiefe: can you continue modding tomorrow? becuz i am sleepy
05:12 Surono: wait
05:12 Surono: a bit
05:12 zigizigiefe: okey
05:12 Surono: 05:06:737 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - kkkdkkddkkd
05:12 zigizigiefe: DONe
05:12 Surono: 05:37:262 - this? u keep it? ok
05:13 Surono: 05:41:612 - too over. delete
05:13 zigizigiefe: i fixed this
05:13 Surono: 05:41:462 (289,290) - swap if u applied 05:37:187 (243,244,245) - here as dkd
05:14 zigizigiefe: okey
05:14 Surono: 06:07:637 (296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - ........
05:14 zigizigiefe: :D okey
05:15 Surono: back to previous :^)
05:15 Surono: kk kk ddd dd dd kkk
05:15 zigizigiefe: done
05:15 zigizigiefe: DONe
05:15 zigizigiefe: KATe
05:15 Surono: really?? noice
05:15 zigizigiefe: :D
05:16 zigizigiefe: i love 1/8s
05:16 Surono: done ^L_^
05:16 Surono: hmm lel
05:16 Surono: you can save this as rechec/help more on thread..
05:16 zigizigiefe: can i update this?
05:17 Surono: yes
05:17 Surono: then u can sleep haha
05:18 Surono: wow I guess u want sleep
05:18 Surono: u forget update lol
05:18 zigizigiefe: nope
05:18 zigizigiefe: i restarted osu!

Skull Kid wrote:

[General]
00:00:155 - Change volume to 60% or lower (timing point and inherited point)
00:19:280 - Add a inherited point with 80% volume
00:19:355 - Change volume to 80%
00:19:355 - Try to increase the slider velocity from the previous notes
01:49:280 - Add a inherited point with 90% volume
01:49:355 - Change volume to 90%
02:07:280 - Add a inherited point with 80% volume
03:19:280 - Add a inherited point with 90% volume
03:19:355 - Change volume to 90%
03:37:280 - Add a inherited point with 80% volume
04:01:355 - Delete this inherited point (its useless if you apply my mod)
04:20:555 - Change volume to 80%
04:54:349 - Add a inherited point with 100% volume
04:54:437 - Change volume to 100%
04:57:962 - Add a inherited point with 80% volume
04:58:037 - to 06:34:037 - Delete all inherited points
06:53:162 - Add a inherited point with 90% volume
06:53:237 - Change volume to 90%
07:15:962 - Add a inherited point with 80% volume
07:49:187 - Add a inherited point with 100% volume
07:49:239 - Change volume to 100%

i'll mod the map in another day

Firce777 wrote:

irc volume check~

SPOILER

22:02 zigizigiefe: hey
22:02 Firce777: hi :3/
22:03 zigizigiefe: have you time?
22:03 zigizigiefe: because i need volume check on my map
22:04 Firce777: ok :3
22:04 *zigizigiefe is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1053892 DragonForce - My Spirit Will Go On]
22:05 zigizigiefe: can you check volume,thanks :3
22:05 zigizigiefe: <3
22:08 Firce777: 00:00:155 - 40% is better
22:09 zigizigiefe: done
22:09 zigizigiefe: i have a question
22:09 Firce777: :3?
22:09 zigizigiefe: 01:49:355 - should i move to 01:49:280 -
22:09 Firce777: you mean preview?
22:09 zigizigiefe: skull kid said "01:49:355 - move to 01:49:280 -"
22:10 zigizigiefe: nope
22:10 zigizigiefe: timing point
22:10 Firce777: no
22:10 zigizigiefe: okey
22:10 Firce777: 01:49:355 - is fine
22:12 zigizigiefe: will you post on forum?
22:12 Firce777: if you want to
22:13 zigizigiefe: i want
22:13 Firce777: ok
22:13 Firce777: 04:01:355 - 60% here, and turn to 80% 04:10:955 -
22:14 Firce777: i think that's all
22:18 zigizigiefe: thanks

nice map blah

Doyak wrote:

* 00:40:955 (166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - 00:50:555 (280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344) - These two are musically repeating parts. But seeing how you used kats, you used them to mainly represent the snares for the first part and the guitars for the second part. Why are they inconsistent? Also for the second part, the stream pattern looks really random except for those guitars, like 00:50:555 (280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287) - is just twisting the rhythm with no reason. Also 00:54:755 - 00:55:055 - why are these two different? They should be used as same notes since it's a repeating drum pattern.
* 01:01:355 - On this part, the main beats here are the white ticks' / red ticks' drums. And they were being represented pretty well with d and k for each until 01:02:105 - . But since 01:02:255 - , it suddenly got reversed. And it suddenly got back on 01:03:755 - , and gets reversed again on 01:07:355 - . It seems that you wanted to express some vocals on the reversed part, but sadly most of the patterns are based on the drums even inside that part. So rather than representing the vocal properly, they kinda 'ruins' the expression of the drums, by changing d k d k d k d k to k d k d k d k d.
* 01:10:505 (487,488,489,490,491) - Why is the end is k? Rather 01:10:655 - sounds special with the vocal, if anything needs to be a k.
* 01:29:555 - 01:29:855 - There are big drum sounds here, which I think should be represented as both d.
* 01:39:155 - There starts a 'real' 1/4 drums, but it's poorly represented because you just continued the previous kk notes.
* 02:39:305 - You used to represent vocals inside trains as a k, so why not k here?
* 02:41:555 (108,109) - can be swapped to represent the drum better
* 02:58:880 (283) - imo deleting this note can emphasize 02:58:955 (284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298) - this long train better.
* 03:09:155 - Same as 01:39:155 -
* 04:43:849 (296,297) - 04:44:378 (302,303) - This sounds like 1/6.
* 05:12:437 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246) - I hear many 1/6 guitars too... not sure how exactly they are though.
* 05:37:037 (243,244) - Yeah why is this k d, usually you put d for white ticks and k for red ticks. But you seem to swap it like when there's a k d pattern nearby.
* 05:44:837 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - The guitar sound is on 05:44:987 - , not 05:45:062 - so using 3/4-based pattern doesn't make sense.
* 05:48:287 (62) - 05:50:687 (94) - 05:53:087 (126) - Why not use k, since the guitar is like EEEEEE so you may need a pattern diversity, not just ddkdkdkdkddkkddkdkdkd spam.
* 06:31:637 - Why does the stream start here, since nothing has changed yet? It should rather start at 06:32:837 -
* 07:25:637 (758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765) - I don't get this, there's nothing different than 07:24:437 (747,748,749,750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757) - so why a sudden stream? A significant change occurs on 07:26:237 -
* 07:36:137 (875,876,877) - The music has stopped at 875, so why do you continue the stream?
* 07:36:437 (878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899,900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914) - There should be a proper emphasis on the white ticks, you can hear the significant drums there. There's no consistency on this stream atm.

Good luck~

Mew104 wrote:

Hey o/
m4m as requested
[Tatsujin]
00:41:705 (176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - kkddkdd fits the music better and feels more natural while playingdone
00:42:905 (192,193,194,195,196,197,198) - ^done
00:50:330 (278) - delete? the short break would allow the player to prepare for the long stream coming upokey
00:50:555 (280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300) - mapping this long stream in a completely different way than the one starting 00:40:955 - doesn't make sense to me, the song sounds exactly the same and the patterns don't really go with the music. Try remapping this part to be more like the first long stream for the sake of consistencyit will be too looooooooong stream,it will be bad.thats better
01:25:055 (305,306,307) - Ctrl+G; kkd makes for a nicer sounding transition into the next partokey
01:33:755 (394,395,396,397,398,399,400,401,402) - if you want to represent the vocals here, I'd suggest using a slider instead of a long don stream, since this is a rather calm part of the songi mapped here according to drum
01:34:430 (403) - ^ if you apply this suggestion, delte this notenope
01:38:555 (445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453) - same goes for this streamthis two part isn't same
02:07:280 - I don't see the point in raising the volume from 80% to 100% for just one note, you should delete this timing point, changenope 02:07:355 - to 80% volume and delete the timing point at 02:07:430 - as wellnö
02:15:605 (778) - D sounds better to me since the guitar pitch is quite low here compared to where you used Koh,you're right.done
02:17:555 (793,794,795) - move this kkd triplet to 02:17:405 - done
02:25:205 (860) - D (same reason as above) okey
02:38:555 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - there is no reason for this first half of the stream to be here, either remap this part to be more consistent with the rest of the verse or change it to a slider if you want to represent the vocalsyeah,looks bad
03:03:755 (336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344) - same suggestion as before, a slider would make more sense here imonope
03:37:280 - delete this timing point, change 03:37:355 - to 80% volume and delete 03:37:430 - no
03:47:555 (258,259,260) - move to 03:47:405 - okey
04:32:643 (174) - since you're trying to follow the guitar, you should delete this, as there's a short guitar break herenope
04:35:996 (209) - ^^
04:36:790 (218) - change to k to follow the guitar more closelydone
04:50:907 (1) - using a spinner here seems out of place, try using a slider and deleting 04:50:819 (346) - instead for the sake of consistency with the sliders right before this partdone
04:54:349 - this timing point has no use, delete itno
04:56:837 (36) - extend this slider by 1/16, as the last tick is missingno,sry
05:05:237 (129) - this stream should end here, since the guitar slows down. If you want to follow it accurately, try using some 1/2 notes here, just like you did at 05:14:837 - i deleted 05:05:162 -
05:08:837 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177) - this short stream also seems overmapped as the guitar is quite slow here as wellokey
05:16:637 (262) - extend by 1/16nah
05:26:612 (108) - delete; this section is very hard as it is, players should get a short break to catch their breathokey
05:46:037 - instead of this being a huge stream, you should add short breaks whenever the guitar spikes, such as at 05:48:137 - and 05:50:537 - since a long stream like this isn't really appealing to play when the same pattern is repeated over and over againnope,its DEATH PART huehuehue xd
06:05:162 (264) - delete to make the crazy guitar part after this stand out moredone
06:37:637 (255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263) - same as beforenah
06:42:437 (306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314) - ^no
07:15:962 - same as before^
07:40:037 - I don't know about this timing point, 195 seems right for the guitar, however the spinner is way early. The spinner should be on 07:42:437 - which lines up with just keeping it at 200 BPM, so my suggestion is to just leave it at 200 BPM for the sake of consistency and accept the fact that the guitar is a bit behind hereoh,i think thats better

That's about it, hope this was helpful
Good luck with your map!

Mew104 wrote:

07:40:037 - I don't know about this timing point, 195 seems right for the guitar, however the spinner is way early. The spinner should be on 07:42:437 - which lines up with just keeping it at 200 BPM, so my suggestion is to just leave it at 200 BPM for the sake of consistency and accept the fact that the guitar is a bit behind here

Surono wrote:

Hi, the zigirit will go on?

Mew104 wrote:

07:40:037 - I don't know about this timing point, 195 seems right for the guitar, however the spinner is way early. The spinner should be on 07:42:437 - which lines up with just keeping it at 200 BPM, so my suggestion is to just leave it at 200 BPM for the sake of consistency and accept the fact that the guitar is a bit behind here

07:40:037 - delete red lines, rearranged pattern. 07:42:362 - d, 07:42:437 - spinner
do you think herman li is noob? herman li is cool!

you make for the drum, not for the guitar. go play mania, its taiko xd

edit:
wow

05:48:137 - and 05:50:537 - and more on right.. rip rip rip, borinnnnn........
pls, 05:50:687 - d and 05:55:037 - kdkdkkd. doesnt mean death part should b easier. if it is song. just "ye"

snowball112 wrote:

Looked at some of the kiai in IRC.

irc log

19:29 zigizigiefe: i want to ask help for just one part
19:29 zigizigiefe: not whole map
19:29 zigizigiefe: please
19:32 snowball112: alright, quick
19:32 snowball112: which part
19:34 *zigizigiefe is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1053892 DragonForce - My Spirit Will Go On [Tatsujin]]
19:34 zigizigiefe: first chorus
19:34 zigizigiefe: 01:49:355 -  to 02:07:355 -
19:34 zigizigiefe: especially 01:49:355 (321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331) -  this part
19:36 snowball112: 01:50:180 - this is a filler
19:37 snowball112: correct would be two 1/4 triples like [http://puu.sh/sJPxz/0a2596c707.jpg this], cursor on 01:50:180 - 
19:37 zigizigiefe: 01:49:955 (326,327,328,329,330,331) - tbh there was kkd kkd triplets on previous
19:37 zigizigiefe: and i changed today
19:38 snowball112: you're missing a note 01:50:780 - 
19:38 snowball112: 1/4 begins from 01:50:705 - 
19:40 snowball112: and I'm pretty sure 01:53:555 - and 01:53:855 - should be d, the drumroll is low in the background
19:42 zigizigiefe: hmm
19:43 zigizigiefe: okey
19:43 snowball112: ok, 01:56:855 (395,396,397,398,399,400,401,402,403,404,405) - this spacing and 01:51:755 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353) - should be more similar
19:44 snowball112: 01:52:430 - i think you can move this note to 01:52:730 - 
19:47 zigizigiefe: done
19:50 snowball112: 02:06:230 - d and 02:06:305 - k? strong clap on second note
19:54 snowball112: try moving 01:59:780 - to 01:59:480 - , there is a clear 1/4 starting from 01:59:855 - , so it doesn't make sense to start the 1/4 on 01:59:705 - 
19:57 zigizigiefe: okey
20:01 snowball112: similar, 02:00:980 - this should not be here
20:01 snowball112: either 02:00:680 -  or 02:01:280 - is better
20:03 snowball112: 02:02:330 - missing note as well
20:05 snowball112: if you look at your other kiai times, your basic structure (independent of colours) should be something like [http://puu.sh/sJR9L/cb6766dbc7.jpg this]
20:38 zigizigiefe: ^^
20:38 zigizigiefe: thanks
20:38 snowball112: sure, np
20:42 snowball112: one last thing you can try
20:43 zigizigiefe: okey :D
20:43 snowball112: move 02:08:930 - to 02:09:080 - ,
20:43 snowball112: maybe even remove 02:08:705 - 
20:44 snowball112: I think 1/4 on 02:09:080 - fits instruments a bit better
20:45 zigizigiefe: 02:08:705 -  i removed that
20:45 zigizigiefe: yeah,that's unnecessary
20:46 zigizigiefe: done

Also, if you really want to fill in with notes then I suggest you revert to what you had before the change, eg. 01:50:030 - remove or move to 01:50:180 - because that middle triple starting at 01:49:955 - has even less support in the music than a note at 01:50:180 -.that's not necessary

1. You use d to represent the beat on 00:38:855 (151,155,159) - ,so I think change 00:39:455 (159,160,161,162) - to dkkkd would be more consistent with former stream.
2. Consider the guitar emphasizing on 00:45:455 - and 00:45:155 - ,so i recommend that you can reverse 00:45:380 (225,226) - to follow the guitar,it not only represent the guitar well but also make consistent with 00:44:255 (210,211,212,213,214,215,216) - .
3. 00:54:980 (9,10) - ^
4. Although you follow drum on 01:31:355 - to 01:33:755 - but I think you can pay a bit more attention on vocal like you mapped on 01:36:155 - ~01:38:555 - .you can take this for reference.
5. 06:35:237 - ~06:37:637 - same as above^
6. I feel you want to emphasize the vocal's highlight on 01:49:955 (204,205,206,207,208,209) - but after 01:50:555 - you follow the drum instead of vocal, I may a bit inconsistent imo. Maybe you can follow the vocal much better like this(It is not necessary to follow the entire pattern. but at least make similar structure, and other similar part also needs to be changed if you applied)
7. After 01:51:455 - , I think you start to follow the drum's beat instead of vocal, so reverse 01:52:280 (226,227) - would be more fluent.(other similar part also needs to be changed if you applied).
8. I feel the guitar's sound's on 04:21:613 - is not same as 04:23:025 - ,add a k on 04:21:790 - would be better imo.
9. 05:07:637 - ~05:09:137 - I think following drum would be better imo, the drum sound is pretty strong.

qoot8123 wrote:

hi o/ m4m as request~

[ Tatsujin]

1. You use d to represent the beat on 00:38:855 (151,155,159) - ,so I think change 00:39:455 (159,160,161,162) - to dkkkd would be more consistent with former stream.Sounds good :3
2. Consider the guitar emphasizing on 00:45:455 - and 00:45:155 - ,so i recommend that you can reverse 00:45:380 (225,226) - to follow the guitar kkkkdkkk pattern is better i think,it not only represent the guitar well but also make consistent with 00:44:255 (210,211,212,213,214,215,216) - . done
3. 00:54:980 (9,10) - ^ same above
4. Although you follow drum on 01:31:355 - to 01:33:755 - but I think you can pay a bit more attention on vocal like you mapped on 01:36:155 - ~01:38:555 - .you can take this for reference. Oh I forgot here,thanks
5. 06:35:237 - ~06:37:637 - same as above^ ^
6. I feel you want to emphasize the vocal's highlight on 01:49:955 (204,205,206,207,208,209) - but after 01:50:555 - you follow the drum instead of vocal, I may a bit inconsistent imo. Maybe you can follow the vocal much better like this(It is not necessary to follow the entire pattern. but at least make similar structure, and other similar part also needs to be changed if you applied)Your suggestion is better,fixed
7. After 01:51:455 - , I think you start to follow the drum's beat instead of vocal, so reverse 01:52:280 (226,227) - would be more fluent.(other similar part also needs to be changed if you applied).Done
8. I feel the guitar's sound's on 04:21:613 - is not same as 04:23:025 - ,add a k on 04:21:790 - would be better imo.Yeah,that's better
9. 05:07:637 - ~05:09:137 - I think following drum would be better imo, the drum sound is pretty strong.

Sounds good ^^

Good Luck! Thanks For Modding ^^