MYTH & ROID - Paradisus-Paradoxum [Osu|Taiko|OsuMania] · forum

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-09-07T20:47:48+00:00

Revialink wrote:
_DT3 wrote:
now waiting on lit120, Negri_sk and - Magic Bomb -
nya

nya

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-09-09T00:46:35+00:00

One day Mbo will reawaken.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-09-09T11:22:54+00:00

Ayyri wrote:
One day Mbo will reawaken.

One day

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

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Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-09-10T13:05:22+00:00

i give 1 kudo to those cute babes, good luck, it would be so nice if you rank it!

shine shine little cutie sweetie star~ ★

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-09-10T13:15:41+00:00

Pachiru wrote:
i give 1 kudo to those cute babes, good luck, it would be so nice if you rank it!

shine shine little cutie sweetie star~ ★

Thx so much Pachiru <3

Yoshikawa Hoshi

Yoshikawa Hoshi 2016-09-11T11:29:06+00:00

in the last std diff 00:14:477 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 01:14:178 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - all these sliders are inaudible without any clear reason
it just looks stupid to make all of these 15% volume when there are pretty strong sounds in the music

moreover, these 00:18:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:18:357 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - streams are totally overmapped and the thing that they have the same spacing as 00:13:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:23:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - those streams that are mapped to the strong beats triggers me a lot

00:14:029 (1,1,1) - also these ncs are not neccessary because there are no sv/flow changes

just passing by
best of luck

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-09-11T20:03:33+00:00

Yoshikawa Hoshi wrote:
in the last std diff 00:14:477 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 01:14:178 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - all these sliders are inaudible without any clear reason
it just looks stupid to make all of these 15% volume when there are pretty strong sounds in the music

moreover, these 00:18:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:18:357 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - streams are totally overmapped and the thing that they have the same spacing as 00:13:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:23:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - those streams that are mapped to the strong beats triggers me a lot

00:14:029 (1,1,1) - also these ncs are not neccessary because there are no sv/flow changes

just passing by
best of luck

Yeah true, I will tell KittyAdventure about it

lit120

3,261 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-09-12T09:13:12+00:00

i changed my mind

http://puu.sh/r8ugY/c37e3fc28f.rar

just change the diffname into lit120's Extreme or sth w/e xd

edit: here's the fix and update ver. if u have DLed it from above

fix that audiofilename for me pls =w=

q

osu file format v14

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Tags:re: zero kara hajimeru isekai seikatsu life in a different world from zero re:zero tv size op opening
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Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-09-12T10:33:03+00:00

Placeholder! (Sorry for doubleposts!)

Last edited by Kyouren 2016-09-12T10:37:44+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-09-12T10:35:33+00:00

Yoshikawa Hoshi wrote:
in the last std diff 00:14:477 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 01:14:178 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - all these sliders are inaudible without any clear reason
it just looks stupid to make all of these 15% volume when there are pretty strong sounds in the music.

moreover, these 00:18:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:18:357 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - streams are totally overmapped and the thing that they have the same spacing as 00:13:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:23:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - those streams that are mapped to the strong beats triggers me a lot. It's has a sound!, so nope!

00:14:029 (1,1,1) - also these ncs are not neccessary because there are no sv/flow changes. Let me think about that, but i'm nc that because has new sound in background and vocal sound!

just passing by
best of luck

@_DT3: can you help me change volume from 15% to 30%?
No comment = Fixed

Thank you for mod! :3

Yoshikawa Hoshi

Yoshikawa Hoshi 2016-09-12T11:51:37+00:00

KittyAdventure wrote:
Yoshikawa Hoshi wrote:
moreover, these 00:18:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:18:357 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - streams are totally overmapped and the thing that they have the same spacing as 00:13:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:23:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - those streams that are mapped to the strong beats triggers me a lot. It's has a sound!, so nope! actually the main idea was to map 00:18:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:18:357 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) these streams with lesser spacing than those 00:13:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:23:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - because literally the sounds are not the same, so different emphasis is needed.

00:14:029 (1,1,1) - also these ncs are not neccessary because there are no sv/flow changes. Let me think about that, but i'm nc that because has new sound in background and vocal sound! am i the only one who doesnt hear any noticeable changes in the music?

Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-09-12T12:49:58+00:00

Nevermind, fixed all! :3 (But still not fine for NC thing because it's has a jump stream)

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_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-09-12T16:26:15+00:00

Ok, updated/added both diffs, gonna look for a hard/advanced GD now...

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2016-09-13T14:54:12+00:00

Nya~~

Have another star

I'll upload another mod for the STD GDs tmr

Net0

1,238 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2016-09-16T03:19:14+00:00

Great set o/

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2016-09-16T04:39:24+00:00

Here is another mod like I said earlier, no kds
Please don't kill me ;;w;;

[Astarte's Beginner]
00:38:655 - What does this inherited point do?

00:40:745 (3) - End this at 00:41:640 - then at another circle at the end of it?

00:45:521 (3) - Should end at 00:46:715 -

00:52:088 - Add a note here

01:27:313 (4) - End this at 01:28:207 - then at a note at 01:28:506 -

[Easy]
00:44:327 - How about adding a note here?

[Normal]
00:25:819 - Placing a note here sound better to me

[Internal's Insane]
00:09:103 (1,1) - You should stack these

00:14:476 (1,2,3) - They should have the same beat as 00:15:670 (1,2,3) - or vice versa

00:28:207 (1) - Remove this perharps? Since there's no sound there

Don't read what I wrote below

Programming meme

#include <mod.h>
#include <suck.h>
#define _USES_OSU_DEFINES
#define diff

main()
{
char diff[i];
int i = 1;
diff[i] = "Astarte's Beginner";
//mod started
{
00:38:655 - What does this inherited point do?

00:40:745 (3) - End this at 00:41:640 - then at another circle at the end of it?

00:45:521 (3) - Should end at 00:46:715 -

00:52:088 - Add a note here

01:27:313 (4) - End this at 01:28:207 - then at a note at 01:28:506 -
}

i++;

diff[i] = "Easy";
//mod started
{
00:44:327 - How about adding a note here?
}

i++;

diff[i] = "Normal";
{
00:25:819 - Placing a note here sound better to me
}

i++;

diff[i] = "Internal's Insane";
{
00:09:103 (1,1) - You should stack these

00:14:476 (1,2,3) - They should have the same beat as 00:15:670 (1,2,3) - or vice versa

00:28:207 (1) - Remove this perharps? Since there's no sound there
}
getch();
}

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-09-18T09:08:37+00:00

nya >w<

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: MYTH & ROID - Paradisus-Paradoxum.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 59253
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 2.3

[Metadata]
Title:Paradisus-Paradoxum
TitleUnicode:Paradisus-Paradoxum
Artist:MYTH & ROID
ArtistUnicode:MYTH & ROID
Creator:_DT3
Version:NiNo's Extra
Source:Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活
Tags:re: zero kara hajimeru isekai seikatsu life in a different world from zero re:zero tv size op opening
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4.3
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2016-09-18T13:45:54+00:00

Surprisingly no CtB mods yet. What is this

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-09-18T13:59:19+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Surprisingly no CtB mods yet. What is this

Ikr xD

Thanks NiNo and Hoki! Now, gonna wait for Pachiru, and - Magic Bomb -...

lit120

3,261 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-09-18T16:48:02+00:00

Self note for my own diff:
-diff settings
-the starting part
-dat slow part

PyaKura

2,084 posts

Joined January 2013

PyaKura 2016-09-19T12:54:43+00:00

7K random mod ye

because playing back to my former skill level is a pain and i'm too frustrated to continue my keymashing session lol

Anywaaaays, let's start.

1|2|3...|7

There might be quite a few screenshots in the mod so I put the individual mods inside boxes.

MEGA's MX

00:04:999 (4999|3,5074|4,5148|5) - I suppose those are the same sounds as 00:02:686 (2686|1,2723|2,2760|3,2798|4) - and yet they are not using the same snapping. I can somewhat see why you'd use a bigger snap as to not emphasize too much those sounds which are... less clear than the previous ones I guess. I have a hard time figuring out the exact snapping of those sounds in comparison to the previous ones but my guess is that they are 1/8, starting on the next red line.

The placement of notes is not optimal but those should be the correct snaps (same snaps as earlier in the map).

00:07:760 - I've altered the patterns a bit to make a bit more sense pitch-wise, while keeping the difficulty. Here's a screenshot.

Basically I wanted to fix the pitch of those particular notes : 00:08:656 (8656|2,8656|4,8805|1,8805|3,8954|2,8954|0) -. By the way, I think the sound on 00:08:954 - is pretty low in comparison to the two previous sounds (due to the lack of drums), so I think it would be better to make it a single note instead of a 2-notes chord.

00:09:701 - From this point onward the map is pretty generic but there is nothing particularly wrong so I'm just going to make a few suggestions.
00:10:447 (10447|6,10596|6) - I'm not sure why you chose to place these notes in the same column whereas you put the notes on different columns everywhere else to avoid repetition. It's more of a consistency issue I guess.

As a general idea I want to suggest something : you know how those drums are in "pair" (separated by 1/2 snaps) with the next "pair" sounding "reversed"? Wait let me put up a screenshot. Let's take 00:09:999 - as an example.

You kinda have 2 "pairs" here if you see what I mean (white line - red line, and the next "pair" is red line - white line). I think it would be more interesting, both for gameplay and aesthetic, if you could also reverse the placement of notes for the two "pairs". Okay I'll take the notes I've highlighted to show you what I mean exactly. It's not hard to understand but it's a pain to explain, I'm sorry!

So yeah uuuh, something like this I guess? I mean as long as the note placement is reversed it should be better. It's your call.
(After taking a look at Usagi's HD, he has done pretty much what I wanted to explain. Take a look at his difficulty.)

Next up is 00:13:283 - : okay why not, however I think you are missing a note on 00:14:029 - to make it a double as you did for 00:13:283 (13283|2,13283|4,13432|0,13432|3,13581|1,13581|4,13730|2,13730|5,13880|3,13880|6) - , not to mention the violin notes only starts at 00:14:178 - with the short LNs, so every note before those short LNs are... the drums I imagine. Okay here is my suggestion to make it play better as well :

This way you get the missing note and a clean stairs-pattern that transition from normal notes to short LNs, but plays just as well! As a side note, your current note 00:14:178 (14178|0) - could be placed either on 6 or 7, depending on how you want to transition with your previous pattern 00:13:432 (13432|0,13581|1,13730|2,13880|3,14029|4) - .

00:19:551 (19551|2,19701|2) - and 00:21:193 (21193|3,21342|3) - and 00:24:327 (24327|1,24477|1) - : same suggestion as 00:10:447 - , along with the reverse note placement thing I mentionned earlier as well. Not to mention having 2 notes in the same column alongside a LN (example 00:19:551 - ) is not the same difficulty as having 2 notes in the same column without a LN (example 00:21:193 - ), so those are difficulty consistency issues.

In this part you can also consider emphasizing the short violin sounds with short LNs, in a similar fashion to what Usagi's did at 00:20:446 - .

00:26:865 - Why not make it a short 3-notes stairs as you did previously at 00:21:492 - and 00:24:477 - ? It is the same occurence. What does not make much sense is this LN 00:27:163 (27163|1) - . You have never used it before although the song sounds the same. If you change that please make sure to fix the LN-starts and ends in this section.

00:27:910 - Okay, nothing major here. Just making sure but 00:28:357 (28357|0,28507|1,28656|2) - am I right to assume those are the violin sounds? If so why not map them at 00:28:059 - 00:28:208 - ? I am guessing it's because those last violin sounds are much more emphasized than the previous ones, and when you pay attention it looks a bit srange in the editor, but it plays okay so... Btw you are missing a 3rd note at 00:28:656 -. Here's a little screenshot with a very simple fix on this whole suggestion.

It might be overkill - as in too hard for the current difficulty though. But that would be one way to make all the violin sounds (first two highlighted notes) and the missing note (3rd highlight).

00:30:895 (30895|0) - ? Isn't this supposed to be a vocal LN on 2?

00:51:939 - Add a note here for the fading piano. It feels satisfying to play, instead of having nothing to hit that beautiful sound. Yeah, details. Oh and if you add this note, move 00:51:790 (51790|5) - to 4, for pitch relevancy.

00:52:462 (52462|0) - Move this note to 3 and 00:52:536 (52536|6) - this one to 5 as to avoid the 2 notes repetition on 7 (currently 00:52:536 (52536|6,52686|6) - )

00:52:835 (52835|3,52835|4,52872|2,52910|1,52947|0) - Nothing wrong, but for future reference, outward stairs (starting from the center columns, such as 3, 4 or 5, and ending on 1 or 7) are often uncomfortable to play, especially at high bpm. You should still move 00:52:984 (52984|3) - to 5, because hitting a repeat note is easier with the index finger than with the thumb.

00:55:223 (55223|4,55260|3,55298|2,55335|1,55372|0) - Same as above concerning outward patterns. If you are aiming for something that is relatively comfortable to play, it's best to avoid them.

00:56:865 (56865|3) - Move that one to 2, and move that group 00:56:939 (56939|1,57014|2,57089|3) - one column to the right, to avoid the repetition of the middle column (which was there for no particular reason I believe).

00:57:910 (57910|0,57910|4,57910|1,58059|2,58059|1,58059|5,58208|6,58208|3,58208|2) - Ctrl+J or Ctrl+H to fit the pitch. Also it's not similar to 00:08:357 - which is 3-notes chord. Instead you used 4 notes here. But I can understand if you are representing the fact that song is more intense here than at the start of the song.

00:59:850 - This part is very similar (if not the same) to 00:09:701 -, so I invite you to scroll up and apply whatever changes you have done up there, in this part of the song (remember, 2-notes repetition in the same column, and reverse note placement).

01:04:626 - Especially in this part, I know we are in the intensity peak of the song, so repetitions are actually justifiable. But do think twice about using them because of the use of 2 LNs at once. I have no trouble playing this part but you might want to ask a few players who can play 4* to 4,5* at their best performance to give you feedback.

/!\ 01:08:805 (68805|2,68805|6,68880|1,68880|5,68954|2,68954|6,69029|5,69029|1,69104|6,69104|2) - This is probably what puts a pretty big dent in the playability of the map, considering the skill-level the map is aimed at. 76767 trills are not easy to play, especially at high bpm (this song is 201 bpm, it's very fast, I'm sure you realize). And not to mention it's actually a double trill with 32323, transitions from stairs, and transitions to double-stairs. It might not look like much but is a lot harder than your previous pattern at 01:04:029 - mainly because this one focuses on index and middle fingers, instead of middle and ring fingers.

One suggestion to fix this is

which already plays far better. But honestly anything that gets rid of that horrendous trill is better.

01:09:402 - onwards. Same suggestion as with all similar parts, think about repetitions if there are any (although considering this is the climax, repetitions are probably fine to use here, but be consistent!), and reverse note placement.
You can add notes at 01:10:596 - 01:11:790 - 01:12:984 - .

The rest of the map is pretty straight-forward due to its structure and suggestions I've made can be applied if you want to do so.

One last thing is... I believe 01:28:507 (88507|2) - is a ghost note.

Usagi's HD

00:00:148 (148|3,1342|3) - Doesn't really respect pitch-relevancy, no explanation needed. I believe it's mostly aesthetical?

00:08:953 (8953|6,8953|5) - I suggest to either use a single note or nothing. The sound is clearly less audible than 00:08:655 (8655|3,8655|1,8804|3,8804|1) - .

00:09:700 - This comes with a big bang! Consider adding at least one note (I recommend 2 more notes) to add to the impact. It feels underwhelming especially considering that the following patterns use 3-notes chords. (00:09:998 (9998|0,9998|2,9998|6,10595|0,10595|6,10595|4) - etc)

00:13:282 - I'm just going to highlight the same thing I've said for the previous diff, at a different timestamp.
"...outward stairs (starting from the center columns, such as 3, 4 or 5, and ending on 1 or 7) are often uncomfortable to play, especially at high bpm."
So I recommend you make those inward stairs (or at least alternate between inward and outward).

I've also taken the freedom to alter the end of that part to make it flow better, but as always this only serves as example.

00:16:864 (16864|2,16864|0,16864|4) - I'm not a huge fan of LNs that end earlier than what they should when it's not for the sake of reverse-shielding.

As a reminder

Shield on the left | Reverse-shield on the right.

Either extend the LNs an extra 1/4 or move 00:17:909 (17909|1,17909|3,17909|5) - one column to the left.

00:33:580 (33580|4,33655|6) - and 00:34:476 (34476|3,34550|1,34550|5) - feel very clunky. Try to use more accurate snaps or go with LNs that start normally.

Snapping used : 1/8

00:43:133 - I don't know if you can hear or feel it, but the music becomes slightly more intense just after the previous drum roll. I think you can reflect this change by adding one more note on the 2-notes chord white lines, if that makes sense (or every 2 white-lines, if you prefer).

Then I would have also added one more note on each chord at 00:45:521 -, for emphasis. The 1/1 rhythm is slow enough for players of that level to read 4 notes chord I believe.

00:47:909 - Add a note on every line for which you hear a piano sound. It adds emphasis to this part. 1/1 rhythms can be made spicier this way, as to break its... "plainness"? (Is that a word?)

01:07:461 (67461|5,67461|6,67610|3,67610|4,67759|2,67759|1,67909|4,67909|5,68058|3,68058|2,68207|0,68207|1) - Careful as that is arguably harder to read (and thus to play) than a lot of patterns used in the MX diff.

01:14:774 - and 01:15:968 - add a note on each for emphasis.

And that's pretty much it, it's a solid difficulty.

Okay I actually feel like playing again so I'll leave it at that. Good luck with this mapset! @Mega and Usagi, if you have trouble finding modders for the easier diffs, pm me on the forums as I very rarely get online in-game.

Arzenvald

4,033 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2016-09-20T01:17:31+00:00

PyaKura wrote:
7K random mod ye

because playing back to my former skill level is a pain and i'm too frustrated to continue my keymashing session lol

Anywaaaays, let's start.

[Usagi's HD]
00:00:148 (148|3,1342|3) - Doesn't really respect pitch-relevancy, no explanation needed. I believe it's mostly aesthetical? // yep, can't think of making eyecandy ln u3u.. keeping this

00:08:953 (8953|6,8953|5) - I suggest to either use a single note or nothing. The sound is clearly less audible than 00:08:655 (8655|3,8655|1,8804|3,8804|1) - .

00:09:700 - This comes with a big bang! Consider adding at least one note (I recommend 2 more notes) to add to the impact. It feels underwhelming especially considering that the following patterns use 3-notes chords. (00:09:998 (9998|0,9998|2,9998|6,10595|0,10595|6,10595|4) - etc)

00:13:282 - I'm just going to highlight the same thing I've said for the previous diff, at a different timestamp.
"...outward stairs (starting from the center columns, such as 3, 4 or 5, and ending on 1 or 7) are often uncomfortable to play, especially at high bpm."
So I recommend you make those inward stairs (or at least alternate between inward and outward).

I've also taken the freedom to alter the end of that part to make it flow better, but as always this only serves as example.

00:16:864 (16864|2,16864|0,16864|4) - I'm not a huge fan of LNs that end earlier than what they should when it's not for the sake of reverse-shielding. // well there's a cue sound before the end xD will consider to change this

As a reminder

Shield on the left | Reverse-shield on the right. // i know Px

Either extend the LNs an extra 1/4 or move 00:17:909 (17909|1,17909|3,17909|5) - one column to the left.

00:33:580 (33580|4,33655|6) - and 00:34:476 (34476|3,34550|1,34550|5) - feel very clunky. Try to use more accurate snaps or go with LNs that start normally.

Snapping used : 1/8

// autotune hype, fixed
00:43:133 - I don't know if you can hear or feel it, but the music becomes slightly more intense just after the previous drum roll. I think you can reflect this change by adding one more note on the 2-notes chord white lines, if that makes sense (or every 2 white-lines, if you prefer).

Then I would have also added one more note on each chord at 00:45:521 -, for emphasis. The 1/1 rhythm is slow enough for players of that level to read 4 notes chord I believe. // i got the idea, added couple notes in 1/1 rhythm

00:47:909 - Add a note on every line for which you hear a piano sound. It adds emphasis to this part. 1/1 rhythms can be made spicier this way, as to break its... "plainness"? (Is that a word?) // 4 notes in HD ;w;

01:07:461 (67461|5,67461|6,67610|3,67610|4,67759|2,67759|1,67909|4,67909|5,68058|3,68058|2,68207|0,68207|1) - Careful as that is arguably harder to read (and thus to play) than a lot of patterns used in the MX diff.

01:14:774 - and 01:15:968 - add a note on each for emphasis.

And that's pretty much it, it's a solid difficulty.[/box]

Okay I actually feel like playing again so I'll leave it at that. Good luck with this mapset! @Mega and Usagi, if you have trouble finding modders for the easier diffs, pm me on the forums as I very rarely get online in-game.

danke, will update after hitsound finished

Astarte

303 posts

Joined December 2014

Astarte 2016-09-21T06:14:21+00:00

Hokichi wrote:
Please don't kill me ;;w;; no one will dw

Don't read what I wrote below then why write it for?

Programming meme
#include <mod.h>
#include <suck.h>
#define _USES_OSU_DEFINES
#define diff

main()
{
char diff[i];
int i = 1;
diff[i] = "Astarte's Beginner";
//mod started
{
00:38:655 - What does this inherited point do? //turty bruh, what did you do here?

00:40:745 (3) - End this at 00:41:640 - then at another circle at the end of it? //No ty

00:45:521 (3) - Should end at 00:46:715 - //yup, added circle

00:52:088 - Add a note here //reworked this part

01:27:313 (4) - End this at 01:28:207 - then at a note at 01:28:506 - //No, how come you didn't notice I only use 2/1 beats in this diff? 1/1 at this fast bpm would be hard for a beginner
}

i++;

getch();
}

Turty bruh, check mah hs too

osu file format v14

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No one wishes me hpdb? k... :'<

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2016-09-21T06:22:52+00:00

Astarte wrote:
Meh wrote:
Please don't kill me ;;w;; no one will dw - Ok then

Don't read what I wrote below then why write it for? - Because Im da boss
No one wishes me hpdb? k... :'< - Yeah, why?

Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-09-22T14:02:12+00:00

When we get a mods? ;___;

lit120

3,261 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-09-22T15:30:34+00:00

I think i should look for mods on my diff

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-09-22T17:52:19+00:00

Yep sure
Also, really just waiting for the last STD diff, gonna finish light insane and the last CtB diff

MEGAtive

1,656 posts

Joined August 2013

MEGAtive 2016-09-24T12:12:54+00:00

PyaKura wrote:
7K random mod ye

because playing back to my former skill level is a pain and i'm too frustrated to continue my keymashing session lol

Anywaaaays, let's start.

1|2|3...|7

There might be quite a few screenshots in the mod so I put the individual mods inside boxes.

MEGA's MX
00:04:999 (4999|3,5074|4,5148|5) - I suppose those are the same sounds as 00:02:686 (2686|1,2723|2,2760|3,2798|4) - and yet they are not using the same snapping. I can somewhat see why you'd use a bigger snap as to not emphasize too much those sounds which are... less clear than the previous ones I guess. I have a hard time figuring out the exact snapping of those sounds in comparison to the previous ones but my guess is that they are 1/8, starting on the next red line.

The placement of notes is not optimal but those should be the correct snaps (same snaps as earlier in the map).
Actually I went with what is more audible and what not. But whatever applied your mod.

00:07:760 - I've altered the patterns a bit to make a bit more sense pitch-wise, while keeping the difficulty. Here's a screenshot.

Basically I wanted to fix the pitch of those particular notes : 00:08:656 (8656|2,8656|4,8805|1,8805|3,8954|2,8954|0) -. By the way, I think the sound on 00:08:954 - is pretty low in comparison to the two previous sounds (due to the lack of drums), so I think it would be better to make it a single note instead of a 2-notes chord. Applied with additional note that the previous two got drums so it sound stronger but in fact the synth's volume is same so kept the double.

00:09:701 - From this point onward the map is pretty generic but there is nothing particularly wrong so I'm just going to make a few suggestions.
00:10:447 (10447|6,10596|6) - I'm not sure why you chose to place these notes in the same column whereas you put the notes on different columns everywhere else to avoid repetition. It's more of a consistency issue I guess.

As a general idea I want to suggest something : you know how those drums are in "pair" (separated by 1/2 snaps) with the next "pair" sounding "reversed"? Wait let me put up a screenshot. Let's take 00:09:999 - as an example.

You kinda have 2 "pairs" here if you see what I mean (white line - red line, and the next "pair" is red line - white line). I think it would be more interesting, both for gameplay and aesthetic, if you could also reverse the placement of notes for the two "pairs". Okay I'll take the notes I've highlighted to show you what I mean exactly. It's not hard to understand but it's a pain to explain, I'm sorry!

So yeah uuuh, something like this I guess? I mean as long as the note placement is reversed it should be better. It's your call.
(After taking a look at Usagi's HD, he has done pretty much what I wanted to explain. Take a look at his difficulty.) Wew nice idea. Thanks Pyak

Next up is 00:13:283 - : okay why not, however I think you are missing a note on 00:14:029 - to make it a double as you did for 00:13:283 (13283|2,13283|4,13432|0,13432|3,13581|1,13581|4,13730|2,13730|5,13880|3,13880|6) - , not to mention the violin notes only starts at 00:14:178 - with the short LNs, so every note before those short LNs are... the drums I imagine. Okay here is my suggestion to make it play better as well :

This way you get the missing note and a clean stairs-pattern that transition from normal notes to short LNs, but plays just as well! As a side note, your current note 00:14:178 (14178|0) - could be placed either on 6 or 7, depending on how you want to transition with your previous pattern 00:13:432 (13432|0,13581|1,13730|2,13880|3,14029|4) - . Was wondering how I could improve the playability here. Thanks, Pyak.

00:19:551 (19551|2,19701|2) - and 00:21:193 (21193|3,21342|3) - and 00:24:327 (24327|1,24477|1) - : same suggestion as 00:10:447 - , along with the reverse note placement thing I mentionned earlier as well. Not to mention having 2 notes in the same column alongside a LN (example 00:19:551 - ) is not the same difficulty as having 2 notes in the same column without a LN (example 00:21:193 - ), so those are difficulty consistency issues. Welp I actually made it pretty consistent between 00:19:253 - and 00:24:029 - and I think these are reflecting the music pretty great

In this part you can also consider emphasizing the short violin sounds with short LNs, in a similar fashion to what Usagi's did at 00:20:446 - . Applied

00:26:865 - Why not make it a short 3-notes stairs as you did previously at 00:21:492 - and 00:24:477 - ? It is the same occurence. What does not make much sense is this LN 00:27:163 (27163|1) - . You have never used it before although the song sounds the same. If you change that please make sure to fix the LN-starts and ends in this section. Notice how 00:22:089 - works.

00:27:910 - Okay, nothing major here. Just making sure but 00:28:357 (28357|0,28507|1,28656|2) - am I right to assume those are the violin sounds? If so why not map them at 00:28:059 - 00:28:208 - ? I am guessing it's because those last violin sounds are much more emphasized than the previous ones, and when you pay attention it looks a bit srange in the editor, but it plays okay so... Btw you are missing a 3rd note at 00:28:656 -. Here's a little screenshot with a very simple fix on this whole suggestion.

It might be overkill - as in too hard for the current difficulty though. But that would be one way to make all the violin sounds (first two highlighted notes) and the missing note (3rd highlight). Wew nice. Thanks Pyak

00:30:895 (30895|0) - ? Isn't this supposed to be a vocal LN on 2? Actually I want to emphasize how 00:31:193 - sounds stronger, so I hammered it. But well your method also pretty sound so applied

00:51:939 - Add a note here for the fading piano. It feels satisfying to play, instead of having nothing to hit that beautiful sound. Yeah, details. Oh and if you add this note, move 00:51:790 (51790|5) - to 4, for pitch relevancy. Rearranged

00:52:462 (52462|0) - Move this note to 3 and 00:52:536 (52536|6) - this one to 5 as to avoid the 2 notes repetition on 7 (currently 00:52:536 (52536|6,52686|6) - )

Applied

00:52:835 (52835|3,52835|4,52872|2,52910|1,52947|0) - Nothing wrong, but for future reference, outward stairs (starting from the center columns, such as 3, 4 or 5, and ending on 1 or 7) are often uncomfortable to play, especially at high bpm. You should still move 00:52:984 (52984|3) - to 5, because hitting a repeat note is easier with the index finger than with the thumb. Fixed

00:55:223 (55223|4,55260|3,55298|2,55335|1,55372|0) - Same as above concerning outward patterns. If you are aiming for something that is relatively comfortable to play, it's best to avoid them. Fixed. Actually I find that kind of pattern are pretty challenging to play so I used that lmao

00:56:865 (56865|3) - Move that one to 2, and move that group 00:56:939 (56939|1,57014|2,57089|3) - one column to the right, to avoid the repetition of the middle column (which was there for no particular reason I believe).

Fixed

00:57:910 (57910|0,57910|4,57910|1,58059|2,58059|1,58059|5,58208|6,58208|3,58208|2) - Ctrl+J or Ctrl+H to fit the pitch. Also it's not similar to 00:08:357 - which is 3-notes chord. Instead you used 4 notes here. But I can understand if you are representing the fact that song is more intense here than at the start of the song. Applied, and you got my point there perfectly haha

00:59:850 - This part is very similar (if not the same) to 00:09:701 -, so I invite you to scroll up and apply whatever changes you have done up there, in this part of the song (remember, 2-notes repetition in the same column, and reverse note placement). Lmao this is the first thing I did after I fixed the similiar part before

01:04:626 - Especially in this part, I know we are in the intensity peak of the song, so repetitions are actually justifiable. But do think twice about using them because of the use of 2 LNs at once. I have no trouble playing this part but you might want to ask a few players who can play 4* to 4,5* at their best performance to give you feedback. I also don't have any trouble playing this part. But yeah now you mention it I need to get feedbacks from other's

/!\ 01:08:805 (68805|2,68805|6,68880|1,68880|5,68954|2,68954|6,69029|5,69029|1,69104|6,69104|2) - This is probably what puts a pretty big dent in the playability of the map, considering the skill-level the map is aimed at. 76767 trills are not easy to play, especially at high bpm (this song is 201 bpm, it's very fast, I'm sure you realize). And not to mention it's actually a double trill with 32323, transitions from stairs, and transitions to double-stairs. It might not look like much but is a lot harder than your previous pattern at 01:04:029 - mainly because this one focuses on index and middle fingers, instead of middle and ring fingers.

One suggestion to fix this is

which already plays far better. But honestly anything that gets rid of that horrendous trill is better. Well now you mention that 201BPM is actually fast.... Fixed the ringtrill

01:09:402 - onwards. Same suggestion as with all similar parts, think about repetitions if there are any (although considering this is the climax, repetitions are probably fine to use here, but be consistent!), and reverse note placement.
You can add notes at 01:10:596 - 01:11:790 - 01:12:984 - . Lmao also the next thing I did after fixed the similiar part

The rest of the map is pretty straight-forward due to its structure and suggestions I've made can be applied if you want to do so.

One last thing is... I believe 01:28:507 (88507|2) - is a ghost note. I still hear the tom drum sound here so not a ghost note, I think

Okay I actually feel like playing again so I'll leave it at that. Good luck with this mapset! @Mega and Usagi, if you have trouble finding modders for the easier diffs, pm me on the forums as I very rarely get online in-game.