1. _orange's Extra (5.43 stars, 617 notes)
2. Better off Dead (remapping) (0 stars, 1 notes)
3. Elirac's Normal (2.21 stars, 271 notes)
4. fLaw's Insane (4.81 stars, 526 notes)
5. gco's Extra (5.59 stars, 583 notes)

Arutsuki wrote:

hi nm from q

edgy name

first I think the bpm offset should be 155, sounds more mathing i changed it to 130 and it works great
00:03:805 (6) - snap this how did i not notice this lmao fixed
00:03:805 (6,1) - having the same spacing here like on 00:03:118 (1,2) - these 1/2 jumps could easily be misread, ctrl + g would solve it pretty good i fixed the stream, i did see it was a little weird looking, but the jumps are easily readable i believe
00:20:951 (4) - no sound on this, delete fixed this and the one after it
00:40:284 - consider mapping other sounds than just the drums inbetween the jump sections, this way it feels too empty went ahead and mapped the cymbal part
01:08:284 - ^ ill map the vocals on this part then thanks
01:31:784 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - don't do this unless you're actually trying to make it hard to read i like this idea of the slider being on top of the stream but i do see what you mean, ill leave it for now
01:32:118 (1) - the stream feels too boring the way it is, try adding some sharp turns or curves fixed stream a little and changed the jumps after it to go with the placement of the last note
01:43:534 (5) - no sound, delete fixed
02:06:201 (2,2,4,2,4,2) - ^fixed and moved them around to make it look better

gl

[ - Zekks - ] wrote:

From my queue.

TIP: Don't start a New Combo on every white tick, most of the time they start around the larger white tick but for this one it's different.

- Add custom combo colors, the default ones don't work with this background. OwO
wow thats a lot of new comboing ;~;
00:06:140 (1) - Get rid of this New Combo.
00:06:473 (10) - New Combo.
00:07:140 (1) - Get rid of this NC.
00:07:306 (5) - NC
00:07:806 (1) - Get rid of this NC as well.
00:08:140 (1) - Get rid of this NC too.
00:08:473 (16) - NC
00:10:973 (4) - No NC.
00:11:140 (1) - No NC.
00:11:806 (1) - No NC.
00:13:140 (1) - No NC.
00:27:140 (1) - No NC.
00:27:806 (1) - No NC.
00:28:140 (1) - No NC.
00:28:306 (17) - NC 17 is too big of a combo, i changed it a little
00:31:639 (3) - NC
00:31:806 (1) - No NC.
00:32:140 (1) - No NC.
00:34:139 (1) - No NC.
00:34:973 (5) - NC
00:35:139 (1) - No NC.
00:35:473 (1) - No NC.
00:35:806 (1) - No NC.
00:37:140 (1) - No NC.
00:38:140 (1) - No NC.
00:39:140 (1) - No NC.
00:40:473 - Cannot hear any hitsounds here, raise the volume on hitsounds to provide feedback.
00:43:806 (1) - No NC.
00:43:973 (5) - NC
00:44:140 (1) - No NC.
00:45:140 (1) - No NC.
00:46:140 (1) - No NC.
00:47:139 (1) - No NC.
00:47:473 (1) - No NC.
00:47:806 (1) - No NC.
00:48:140 (1) - No NC.
00:51:140 (1) - No NC.
00:53:140 (1) - No NC.
00:54:140 (1) - No NC.
00:55:139 (1) - No NC.
00:57:806 (1) - No NC.
00:58:973 - NC
00:59:140 (1) - No NC.
00:59:473 (1) - No NC.
00:59:806 (1) - No NC.
01:00:140 (1) - No NC.
01:00:806 (1) - No NC.
01:01:806 (1) - No NC.
01:02:806 (1) - No NC.
01:04:140 (1) - No NC.
01:08:140 (1) - No NC.
01:08:473 (6) - NC
01:16:140 (1) - No NC.
01:16:473 (9) - NC everything above this i fixed most of them
01:17:473 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - These hitcircles don't go with the vocals, replace each 1st circle, ex - 01:17:473 (2) - then get rid of the next circle, ex: 01:17:640 (1) - Then go back to 01:17:473 - and put a slider there, the slider should start on the white tick and end on the other white tick. i kind of knew this needed some work, the first 2 1,2s are for the cymbal, then i fixed it so the next ones follow the vocals with sliders instead
01:18:140 (4) - Get rid of this hitcircle, and replace it with the slider I talked about, also get rid of the other hitcircle at - 01:18:473 ^^
01:19:140 (7) - Do the same for this. ^^
01:38:140 (1) - No NC.
01:38:473 (6) - NC.
01:40:140 (1) - No NC.
01:47:306 (1) - No NC.
01:47:640 (10) - NC.
01:50:140 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Get rid of all NC's here.
01:50:140 (1) - Make this a NC once you got rid of all of the other NC's.
01:51:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Get rid of all the NC's here.
02:07:473 (1) - No NC. fized all new combo stuff
02:07:806 (1) - This hitcircle too far away from it's nearest slider. this is a triple sound and it acts as a 1,2 jump but the sliderend acts as the second drum hit if that makes sense, so im keeping this
02:15:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Get rid of NC's here.

Try changing up the jumping patterns around the end, for example, add some triangles, or some back and forths, other than that, it's okay.
this is what i was thinking, just unsure of how to go about it.

1. Press ctrl+A, i noticed you have a habit of placing objects in somewhat the center, the entire editor is your canvas for objects, having everything
   in the center flows bad try using the whole playfield
   
2. Try to listen to the song more and not just only to the rhythm
3. I like this song
4. A lot of bad things in your map

00:04:140 (1) - you want to emphasize that huge guitar start with a slider, circle doesn't do it

00:06:306 (10) - theres a guitar here, you should also follow the guitar when possible in a song like this, don't just leave it empty

00:07:390 (2) - inconsistent spacing you probably did that accidently

00:09:473 (1) - small example
those 1/2 gaps are a really bad idea, because the guitar keeps going so you should keep the map continuously going, I really suggest you to fill in those gaps with sliderends, that’s where sliders are for


00:11:140 (10) - New Combo on each Long White tick (or so called the downbeat)

00:36:139 (1) - don't just plainly map the rhythm, you can differentiate to emphasize stuff, for example sliders on the vocals would be fun, the vocals is actually an "instrument" you can follow aswell

00:42:140 (1) - missing sliders here, the guitar is rising

02:08:139 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - the guitar keeps going so let the map do the same, I feel like I'm missing some sliders

zev wrote:

General

1. Press ctrl+A, i noticed you have a habit of placing objects in somewhat the center, the entire editor is your canvas for objects, having everything
   in the center flows bad try using the whole playfield i used the scale to make it a little larger then moved the shorted ones around so it covers more of the playfield (idk if thats the right way to do it but i did it like that for now)
   
2. Try to listen to the song more and not just only to the rhythm
3. I like this song
4. A lot of bad things in your map ;3;

00:04:140 (1) - you want to emphasize that huge guitar start with a slider, circle doesn't do it changed this

00:06:306 (10) - theres a guitar here, you should also follow the guitar when possible in a song like this, don't just leave it empty ^

00:07:390 (2) - inconsistent spacing you probably did that accidently oops didnt notice this before thnks

00:09:473 (1) - small example
those 1/2 gaps are a really bad idea, because the guitar keeps going so you should keep the map continuously going, I really suggest you to fill in those gaps with sliderends, that’s where sliders are for this was helpful, fixed it


00:11:140 (10) - New Combo on each Long White tick (or so called the downbeat) fixed

00:36:139 (1) - don't just plainly map the rhythm, you can differentiate to emphasize stuff, for example sliders on the vocals would be fun, the vocals is actually an "instrument" you can follow aswell im not sure how to do this ill keep the jumps for now and fix if someone else says too

00:42:140 (1) - missing sliders here, the guitar is rising i actually re-did it so it follows the vocals and i think it looks pretty cool

02:08:139 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - the guitar keeps going so let the map do the same, I feel like I'm missing some slidersim fixing this rn and itll probably follow the guitar and those drums parts instead

you can pm me ingame if you want more advice or somth.

All of what i covered can also be learned from just mapping a lot, so yeh take this with ya.
you should map more on your journey

Gus wrote:

[Better Off Dead]
General
- fix the capitalization of the difficulty name guess i should of seen this coming lol i was waiting for someone to correct me
- go into song setup>design>uncheck "enable countdown" didnt catch this thnks
- combo colors! ive been told this twice and i dont know how to do this ;; ill ask ingame later i guess
- add kiai time to indicate the most intense sections of your map im still thinking about where to put em but ill look now then
- fix your AIMod issues (ctrl shift a) fixed



00:03:640 (5,1) - perhaps stack? stacked it to the end of the slider

00:08:139 (11) - NC fixed

00:08:973 (2,3) - change this to two circles, there's no triple of notes to emphasize here so its kind of overmapped, plus simple two notes would work consistently with 00:08:473 (1)

00:11:140 (6) - NC fixu

00:24:973 (3,1) - change to a triple because the strongest sound you're emphasizing is 00:25:140 (1) - here, so I think it'd fit better as a triple into a jump to 00:25:306 (2) this is tricky for me because i like how i did it but u did point that out and it looks ok with that too,, but ill keep it how it is for now

00:27:140 (4) - NC fixu

00:27:806 (5) - make some sort of spacing or shape change here since there is a spacing or shape change 00:27:473 (1) - here, on a similar sound i scaled it a little but i understand what ur saying

00:31:473 - this is an important guitar beat, why nothing here? not sure tbh i guess i was mapping the drums and wasnt listening to the guitar lol ill fix

00:31:749 - NC i assume u meant on the 5, ill probably change the combo after i fix that guitar section right above this so ill just say i did it

00:35:140 (7) - NC fixu

00:46:973 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I don't think the music supports a stream here, a lot of this is ghost noted, I think you should stick to the vocals instead of the stream, it doesnt fit too well ill keep this for now since i personally like it

00:48:973 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - a pretty strong vocal section here that you neglect to emphasize, i'd spice it up with sliders, of course this is just my opinion, its up to you i do see what u mean ill keep it for now maybe change later since rn idk exactly what id do for it

00:56:806 (3,4,5,6,7) - NC on 7 and id turn the hitsound volume a lil further up fixed nc, but i like it with lower volume since those sliders make a weird noise with the volume up higher

- also, i'd switch these jump sections up, they're a little repetitive with all the back n forths ya feel? idk but it works ngl again im not sure how to do it exactly, ill probably go back and remap those parts but im keeping it for now

01:27:473 (3,4,5) - kind of an inconsistently large jump for the emphasis here, i'd move 4-5-6 closer to 3 i agree fixu

01:28:140 (7) - NC fixu DESU

- also, you have a lot of unsnapped timing lines, i'd snap those to ur beats here, like the red/white/blue ticks, any of em can be snapped to, just make sure you snap them correctly is this an unrankable problem because if its not a big deal then i wont change it because laziness. (theyre only like that because i messed with the offset once before so its all screwed up)

01:32:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - slightly unstacked with slider, stack it fixu okie

01:42:473 (6) - looks kinda stubby visually not sure what u mean by stubby lol but i shortened the curve a little

01:43:306 (2,3,4) - stack with sliderend of 01:42:473 (6) - oo i see what u mean, i moved the slider a little and now it looks p cool (imo)

01:43:806 (6) - stack with 01:43:140 (1) had to do some moving around but i stacked it

01:50:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - curve this more, also, make the changes consistent with ur strong downbeats (the big white ticks) this took a while to make look good but i fixed

01:52:806 - some pretty important vocals here made it a fast slider and louder sound

02:12:306 (5) - cool slider >w<

02:15:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - looks a bit messy, use ctrl+shift+f to turn a slider into a clean stream, itll look so much better here im not very good with making slider shapes but i did what u said and made it a little better

02:16:140 (1) - also, the angle of this coming out of the stream isnt visually appealing I guess, make it directionally consistent with the last note of the stream

final comment: I guess just try some variety. consistency is very good to have and is like a requirement for rankability, but you also want to vary your jump sections a little bit more, maybe add some triangle jumps or other patterns, call me back when you've taken a look at this mod and changed some things!

[Hard]
00:08:451 (1) - skips too many beats

oh god i cant mod this type of map im sorry i mostly do extras

00:22:451 (2) - kind of a stubby shape

- add kiai time and other stuff like in the general for ur other diff im not finished with this one yet so everything on this dif is just a little test basically, when i finish it completely then ill probably pay more attention to the mods

ill look at this again if you want when you finish it, just like 2 general tips there lol

Good luck! call me back once u change things pls

1. Overall: honestly, I think you're overmapping with stuff like 01:02:140 (1,2,1) or 02:18:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) . But ok nvm, forget about it
2. 00:01:640 (3) - angle isn't perfect. Just copypaste this 00:01:140 (1) - and use ctrl+s to make it longer. And align it to the followpoints
3. 00:13:139 (1) - NC, instead of 00:13:473 (1)
4. 00:16:140 (7) - nc
5. Ok, the current NC design needs some work. You're trying to make nice view, but NC's shoud reflect music bars and tune
6. 00:31:473 (3) - missed a note in the guitar melody
7. 00:42:806 (1,1,1) - looks pretty messy, so:
   
   1. 00:43:139 (1) - this slider doesn't needs two white dots. you can make the same shape with just one
   2. 00:43:473 (1) - try to stack this in 00:42:473 (1) sliderened
   3. In the end, make something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820657 or better, idk
8. 00:44:140 (1,2) - is parallel to 00:44:473 (1,2) , but 00:44:806 (1,2) - 00:44:473 (1,2) is not. Seems weird. Make all parallel, or rotate each pair with equal angle
9. 00:51:640 (1,1) - stack could be nice
10. 01:19:139 (7,8,9) - I believe these slidres may look better. Like this 30deg pattern or idk https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820744
11. 01:31:140 (1,2) - this can be better too. Try to make interesting transition to the next(3). May be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820773 or...
12. 01:53:973 (5) - x:377 y:298 for smooth view
13. 02:07:973 (2,4) - try to avoid overlaps like this, at all. Better to stack stuff

Dammond wrote:

Hey! Requested a mod in the Queue
Sorry, a bit short, but I believe it could help

[Better off Dead]

1. Overall: honestly, I think you're overmapping with stuff like 01:02:140 (1,2,1) or 02:18:473 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) . But ok nvm, forget about it im aware of this but still not sure how else i could do it for now
2. 00:01:640 (3) - angle isn't perfect. Just copypaste this 00:01:140 (1) - and use ctrl+s to make it longer. And align it to the followpoints i didnt really see what u meant so i just left it
3. 00:13:139 (1) - NC, instead of 00:13:473 (1)
4. 00:16:140 (7) - nc both fixd
5. Ok, the current NC design needs some work. You're trying to make nice view, but NC's shoud reflect music bars and tune
6. 00:31:473 (3) - missed a note in the guitar melody fixed with slider
7. 00:42:806 (1,1,1) - looks pretty messy, so:
   
   1. 00:43:139 (1) - this slider doesn't needs two white dots. you can make the same shape with just one i couldnt do it with one so its still 2
   2. 00:43:473 (1) - try to stack this in 00:42:473 (1) sliderened changed this tho
   3. In the end, make something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820657 or better, idk
8. 00:44:140 (1,2) - is parallel to 00:44:473 (1,2) , but 00:44:806 (1,2) - 00:44:473 (1,2) is not. Seems weird. Make all parallel, or rotate each pair with equal angle fixu
9. 00:51:640 (1,1) - stack could be nice completely re-did this part
10. 01:19:139 (7,8,9) - I believe these slidres may look better. Like this 30deg pattern or idk https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820744 i did somethin simlar
11. 01:31:140 (1,2) - this can be better too. Try to make interesting transition to the next(3). May be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6820773 or... same here
12. 01:53:973 (5) - x:377 y:298 for smooth view fixu
13. 02:07:973 (2,4) - try to avoid overlaps like this, at all. Better to stack stuff fixu

The most important problem that I see, is that you're trying to reflect the music perfectly, but completely forget about the rhythm in general
im new to mapping so im not quite sure how to do everything properly right ;3;

BounceBabe wrote:

the name of the queue was being weird so i just removed it

the hitsound volume is way too low overall. it does not match with the intense song. increase volume a bit, 50% is not enough. btw, inaudible hitsounds are unrankable so go through them again and increase where they seem too low for the intensity of the song itself. the only ones i made inaudible were the slider ends and ticks im not sure if thats unrankable i see other maps like it all the time

00:42:139 (1,1,1,1) - 01:40:473 (1,1,1,1) - thats a lot of different sv speeds. i recommend using 1 combo colour for faster and 1 combo colour for slower sv to make this easier to read since you also dont have slider ticks. try grey for slow and red for fast http://puu.sh/sSpJX/b97110a7b1.jpg i actually dont know how to do this at all so if u see this and u could msg me ingame to help id gladly appreciate it

01:12:139 (5,6,7) - 00:48:139 (1) - try to blanket these better done

01:27:806 (6) - curved slider would be better here since the slow sv makes this weird to play agreed done

01:31:806 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you shouldnt cover this completely, since you increase spacing over time on the stream its hard to see how small the spacing is at the start i like how this is for now but if others say to change it then i will

about the drum part here 01:36:139 - 01:36:140 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - try this for example: http://puu.sh/sSpR1/46bd568d6f.jpg you can implement this rhythm variation throughout the map as it repeats a lot technically currently fixing this and a few other spots u pointed out

^ you can do the same here too 00:08:139 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/sSpYi/9c7047fb3e.jpg its creating transitions and combining guitar with drums in a fluent way. ^^

^ do the same for parts that have too much gameplay pauses like 00:16:140 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - ^^

02:02:306 (8) - too overmapped here, there are no sounds so remove it and place a circle at 02:02:306 - you can try using this now and again for the part http://puu.sh/sSpVq/9759d99a15.jpg since you always used triples. try using triple and reversed for more variation about the 8, this is the sound of the cymbal being hit and left ringing i think its a nice touch, but i can fix the triples and stuff

00:23:473 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ remove 00:23:556 (4) - to match drums this goes with the guitar so keeping

in general the arrangements of your patterns looks random, you dont have much structure. try to look at the last kiai, this is pretty cleanly structured with squares and alternating jumps or this 00:13:473 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - is nice too in arrangement. try to apply this kind of structure to the rest of the map and polish it up to make it aesthetically more appealing and fluent. thats kind of my problem with mapping since this is my first map that im going for rank with, everything is random really since its just how i feel like the rhythm is reflected with how i do it. might sound confusing but idk

Sharo- wrote:

00:42:139 (1,1,1,1) - 01:40:473 (1,1,1,1) - thats a lot of different sv speeds. i recommend using 1 combo colour for faster and 1 combo colour for slower sv to make this easier to read since you also dont have slider ticks. try grey for slow and red for fast http://puu.sh/sSpJX/b97110a7b1.jpg i actually dont know how to do this at all so if u see this and u could msg me ingame to help id gladly appreciate it

Lightdevil166 wrote:

Hi there, m4m or nm from black vultures mod queue, lets get into this

Better off Dead

General Stuff


Try to stay a little bit more consistent with your patterns, ill point something out now:

Specifics

00:12:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this doesnt really fit to the song, its a nice pattern but it feels unjustified here, especially 00:12:806 (5,6,7,8,1) - the guitar doesnt play 1/4, neither do the drums. This is especially a problem because 00:28:140 (1) - they play the same thing again, and you solve it much better! You could and should in my opinion use that rhythm pattern at the 12 second mark aswell. re-did some of this so it looks better now

00:16:139 (7) - NC this, not 00:16:639 (1) - fix

00:26:973 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This stream is not very pleasing to the eye, also at the end of it the drum sounds exactly the same as at the start, so it should be the same spacing. Compare 00:27:973 (7,8) - with 00:26:973 (2,3) - id turn the two i pointed out into sliders but thats just my style https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6835057 re-did it

00:32:139 (5) - NC this, not 00:33:139 (1) - (or actually you could nc both, aslong as you nc on the big white tick im happy. fix

00:51:639 (1) - While you sped up SV here and its fitting, i think its a little too high. agreed fix

00:54:973 (2,3,4) - Stuff like this people call overmapped. I love triplets just like you, and i had alot of ovemrapped triplets in my map aswell, but i received mods telling me to delete them so ill tell you now, i know its kinda cool and fun to play. But on 00:53:973 (2,3,4) - drums play on blue tick, on 00:54:973 (2,3,4) - they just sadly do not. i wasnt really paying attention i guess i just speedmapped through it, i redid all the triple jump parts of the map

00:56:806 (3,4) - Nothing happens here that would justify two circles, either start one slider and end it on blue tick, since you wanna map vocals here, or just one circle. remade it to a slider thing that follows vocals

00:58:139 (9) - NC this, not 00:58:473 (1) - fix

I wont point NC's out anymore general rule, nc on big white tick or it gets unrankable. idk about unrankable but ill change em anyways

00:58:973 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is the same stream that i pointed out before, i mean the drum plays exactly the same sounds, so whatever you decide to do the one before, do to this one aswell. (This is what i meant with consistent patterns) i just re-did this whole part

01:01:640 (2,3,4) - Overmapped, just as above.
01:02:640 (2,3,4) - I know its cool man but you cant re-did jump parts

01:07:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - Map is veeery slow here, spacing should be very small, id even stack it but thats my style.. anyway, playfulwise this stream doesnt fit the song. stacked them

01:11:140 (5) - Nc this, not 01:11:806 (1) - and then nc 01:12:139 (5) - fix

on the end of these three sliders 01:12:139 (5,6,7) - youre making very quiet sounds correctly cause nothing really happens there, id change the palette of the timing points that start on the blue ticks into Soft, so the sliderends are even quiter and differ more from the start of the sliders.

01:15:140 (8) - NC fix

01:15:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just as before, spacing seems too high here. agreed

01:18:140 (5) - NC, Dont ignore your fat white ticks they are there for a reason, now im honestly done pointing these out, im sure you get the point and you can do it yourself, pointing this out even further would annoy us both i actually caught this myself before reading down this far lol so i changed

01:32:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Cool stream! thanks!

02:12:306 (5) - 02:14:306 (6) - Slider Velocity too high in my opinion. i like it higher for the guitar sound being the only sound going on

Its a nice crescendo and all but i think these jumps are a little too unfjustified considering the rest of the map 02:22:473 (1,2,1,2) - i knew someone would point this out i went ahead and made the gap smaller

02:23:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmmm, maybe revisit that stream, make it a little prettier. this is my favorite part of the map tbh ithe stream is like none ive seen before and i think its a good way to end the map

02:24:055 (6,1) - Unjustified gap imo. made a little smaller

your last timing point isnt really needed since spinners dont make sounds at the start, 02:24:223 (1) - Change this one into the 5% stuff. Delete the last one.
fix

Hard

ill just get a GD because i can not map hard as u can see

Thats all from me modding wise, hope it helps. Drop me some kudosu if you think i deserve it. And if you need some more help, additional to answering to this mod, you can always write me ingame in case you see me online.
very helpful mod also ill check out ur map too thanks for helping!

Hobbes2 wrote:

hi i know im late but I will mod this very soon sorry

ok heres mod

great song choice! thank u!

00:00:140 (1,2,3) - line these up? Something you can do is to copy paste 00:00:140 (1) - then use ctrl+shift+s to extend the slider straight out, then use that extended slider to line up 00:00:640 (3) - . It'll look something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6859810 you can see how you can use that extended slider to line up the pattern fixed like how u said

00:07:139 - should be clickable in my opinion, strong drum clap here idk how i let this slip by lol

00:09:139 (4) - NC should be here instead? fixu

00:12:806 (5,6) - this makes more sense as a slider than 00:13:139 (7), in fact it would fit for 00:13:139 (7) - to be two circles instead to match the intensity of the two claps in the music. Circles are more intense than sliders usually, it's true in this case. agreed

00:17:640 (4,5) - Kind of a weird 3/4 gap to read, make this a reverse slider instead? If you chose not to, maybe improve the flow between these two objects instead. i id a reverse slider and cleaned it up

00:21:306 - There's a sound in the music here so you shouldn't silence the slider okie

00:24:139 (1) - since you've silenced the tail, perhaps extend this slider until the blue tick? 00:24:556 - sure

00:32:139 (1) - pretty ugly slider here, try another shape fixed a little, im not too good with slider shapes

00:34:806 (4,1) - I think you want these to perfect stack, turn down the stack leniency fix

00:40:473 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - For this kinda placement you can make a slider and use slider-stream and then adjust the numbers a bit. Would get you a neater curve. did this and it looks better now

00:46:640 (5,6) - place the stream so that these stack? fixu

00:48:139 (1,1) - blanket fix

01:02:473 (3,3,1) - would look nicer if this symmetrical with 01:02:639 (4,4,2) - its a bit noticeable that in the second linked pattern, 2 and overlap while in the first one 1 and 3 do not. i didnt even notice this before, fix

01:13:139 (2) - Too many slidernodes, makes the curve look pretty weirdtook one off and it looks better now

01:16:139 (6) - should have the NC instead, same with 01:08:139 (5) - imo. Unless you're following vocals I guess i am following vocals so keeping

02:08:139 (1,2,3) - these aren't properly stacked fixu

02:09:473 - you're skipping part of the main melody here which kinda threw me off agreed on this one but,
02:11:473 - ^ i feel this should follow the drums

02:14:306 (6) - you can make the curves smoother / more natural, they look kinda wonky right now agreed

You've got some neat ideas in this map

gl!

Azulae wrote:

o/
mod from my queue

[General]
Increase AR i think its fine how it is. although im open to suggestions to what u think i should put it
Never use volume 5% this is only to silence slider ends and ticks at soft parts, im sure this is ok
Activate widescreen support idk what this does but i did it
Add a source if there is one. its from their EP but really nothing else so idk what to put

[Better off Dead]
00:05:473 (1) - Remove combo keeping this because its different from the snare hits before it
00:14:806 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Whats wrong with the hitsounds? i knew something was off but didnt feel like fixing it until now thanks for pointing it out
00:41:639 (8) - Remove Finish hitsound idk how i feel about this but i did it anyways, might change it back later because i do like it with the cymbal
00:42:139 (1) - These SV changes arent necessary imo. These sliders do not represent the music well. they go with the vocals tho..
02:02:306 (8) - This is useless its the rolling sound the cymbal makes after hitting it, i think its a nice change of pace from just triples after the sliders before too
02:16:140 - 02:24:140 Irregular combo colours. Fix it! fixed a few of them, but not the ending jumps and stream

Need more difficulties. getting GDs : DD

Anyways its a good map! Good luck
\o

Azulae wrote:

AR 9.5 is good I guess

direday wrote:

Mod from my queue.

General

1. Kiai should be consistent throughtout all diffs. Also your use of kiai is not justified. Imo it should start at 01:36:139 and end 01:52:139 or smth. It is the most intense part of the song. And other times when you turn it on music doesn't even really change in intesity to support that.
   
2. Putting Belmont, 731 in tags is redundant.fix

Better off Dead

I see you put a lot of effort into this map havingg all the SV changes and stuff.
However it has some core problems that require remapping of some parts of the song.

First of all 15% and 5% volume. You can get away with 5% sliderends when there is no audible sound they placed onto but I'd raise it to 12% and the main notes to 25-30%. 15 is way too low. And later when you use 5% it should be at least 20% 'cos even though it is sliderend it gets very misleading when you can't hear it. Sliderends keep rhythm going even if it's just for your ears. made all slider ends 20 except at the quiet part and any other places that needed it

00:42:139 (1) 00:42:139 (1,1), 01:48:473 (1) - etc. I get it that they follow the lyrics but you can't have 90% of the map depend on drums and suddenly iggnore them in favour of vocals. You have to get consistent with that. Gco's diff feel much more natural 'cos it follows just the drums. You can try to follow just the vocals or drop it completly. What you have right now is 100% unrankable. i don think its unrankable and its my own style of mapping. when i feel like the vocals are more important than the drums i show that in the map. if its actually unrankable then i honestly dont know what ill do about it because thats how i enjoy mapping it like.

There are a lot of seemingly random SV changes. I've played the map 3 times and still couldn't expect it sometimes (and I'm usually good at it since I'm relying on listening to the song). Some examples: 00:51:639 (1), 00:55:473 (1,2), 01:00:139 (1). ^

01:08:473 (1) - following singer in this part seems fine but pretty inconsistent. 01:17:473 (4,5,6) - this combo feels off for example. fixed a little. i still think it should follow the vocals at the beginning because theres nothing else going on there. then the cymbals come in so it then goes wit hthat

And I'll say it once more - fix kiai.removed the first kiais at the beginning

Best of luck to you guys!

direday wrote:

Mod from my queue.

Elirac's Normal

Since it has snapped distance I will mostly comment about aesthetics. And this map sure can use some polishing.

1. 00:01:139 (1) - this slider is neither parallel nor creating an anggle that is pleasing to look at. fixed
   
2. 00:04:139 (1) - make this mustache bend around previous slider? i think it look better like that
   
3. 00:05:473 (3) - this and all similar cases: I think placing the slider slightly lower to support its curve looks better. 00:13:473 (3) also here etc... done
   Smth like this:
   
4. 01:20:140 The difference in volume is too big imo. fixed
   
5. 01:30:473 (2) - place a lil' bit lower and rotate ccw to make it look better. done
   
6. 01:51:140 (2) - Either place it in line with slider or at 20+ degrees of it. It looks sloppy. done
   
7. 01:53:139 (6) - A bit to the left, as with 00:05:473 done
   
8. 02:03:140 (1,1) - ^ done
   
9. 02:18:473 (2) - Make it less curvy to support the flow done
   
10. 02:24:139 any kiai should end on white tick. Preferably big one. fixed

Best of luck to you guys!

direday wrote:

Mod from my queue.

General

1. Kiai should be consistent throughtout all diffs. Also your use of kiai is not justified. Imo it should start at 01:36:139 and end 01:52:139 or smth. It is the most intense part of the song. And other times when you turn it on music doesn't even really change in intesity to support that.
   
2. Putting Belmont, 731 in tags is redundant.

gco's Extra

Imo this map follows the song better than the last difficulty.

1. 00:00:140 - 00:03:140 this part should have much lower spacing to reflect the music.
   
2. 00:09:473 (2,3,4,5) - don't think these should be stacked.
   
3. 00:10:139 (1,2) - those are the same in music as 00:09:139 (1,2). Both work but you have to pick one: either a slider with end on blue tick or whatever without using the blue tick. Point is - same music - same hitobjects.
   
4. 00:18:139 (3) - Ewww.
   
5. 00:21:473 (1) - not sure it should be curved.
   
6. 00:22:639 - sound here that should be mapped. And on next three empty red ticks aswell. You have objects on them everywhere but here.
   
7. 00:46:806 (3) - Needs to be less curvy imo
   
8. 01:04:139 (1) - make parts of it parallel to eachother where it makes sense to make it look polished? Don't go full notch hell. Other slider look cool tho.
   
9. 01:27:639 (2,3) - hard to read. Rearrange a bit to make 2 and 3 stand out.
   
10. 01:35:973 (4) - sounds literally the same as the one on the red tick before. Why stack than?
    
11. 01:37:639 (5) - Both unreadable and ugly. You never used such spacing for kind of time between notes. Make it more readable somehow. Perhaps move it past the slider a bit as if continuing it. Oh you already did it in the next one so it's just a "typo". Fix
    
12. 01:43:806 (5) - Yeah it's kind of readable but you never used such overlapping before. Why start now?

Good map overall.

Best of luck to you guys!

Wanko wrote:

I have nothing better to do so here's some of what I think could be fixed Only checked 'Better off Dead' difficulty.

SPOILER

- 00:08:473 (2,3) - Felt strange, I'd go with a single tap after 00:08:139 (1) - and then red-red slider. Flows a bit better imo, unless you want to keep that pause. But you kinda did what I just mentioned a bit later, here - 00:10:473 (2,3) i see what u mean, fixed that
- 00:31:140 (1,2) - I'd swap them, think it should start with a slider. i like how this is
- 00:40:139 (1,2) - White - white slider fits better imo, with a single tap where 00:40:473 (2) ends i see what u mean but ill keep it for now, i like the slider sorta curving into the big loop of circles
- 00:41:140 (5,6,7) - I don't think they should be in the same stream as 00:40:806 (3,4) . They're clearly different, feels a bit strange to me ^^' honestly i think id change this if it didnt mess up all the new combos after it, just too lazy to fix them all
- 01:09:639 (4,5) - Seems you're following the vocals so might want to swap these around. fix
- 01:10:140 (1,2) - I'd make these a slider instead, they feel a bit out of place, especially if you follow the previous statement :p agreed
- 01:42:306 (5) - I don't think this should be stacked, there's a strong emphasis on the note before it. I'd move it on 01:41:806 (2) instead. i changed this but in my own way ;P
- 01:42:806 (7) - If you're following this pattern, I think you should place it right between these 01:41:973 (3,5) , looks better imo? did somethin similar
- 01:49:473 (1,2) - These are stacked a bit weirdly. agreed
- 02:07:640 (5,1) - Wow, the spacing. Is it intentional? yes
- 02:21:973 (7,1) - ^ yes

Didn't really notice anything seriously wrong with it, so that'd be it from me, hope it helped ^^'
I'm not really experienced at neither mapping or modding, also this is only my opinion so remember you don't have to agree with any of these xd
Didn't really bother to read all the other mods so my apologies if I repeat something someone has said already.

Good luck getting it ranked~!

Hysteria wrote:

M4M from my queue.

Short explanation about the structure of the mod~

In the general tab there will only be things are that consistently done throughout the map, which means that the example given is not the only issue present within the map. Since there are many of them, I won't take the time to link every. single. one. of. them. This ultimately includes both good and bad things. There will also be some short tips for you, since in the end, the whole modding process is for you to get better at what you're doing and try to bring forth your own style of mapping.

Difficulty specific tab I will only point out things that are easily fixable and doesn't really happen too often throughout the map. However the severity of these will fluctuate.

Simple right?

General

SPOILER

1. A lot of irregular and non consistent spacing throughout the map. This mostly includes your use of spacing in general. Most sections have little to no change in spacing, even tho the intensity of the song is way different. Examples are- 01:20:140 (1) -> 01:32:140 (1) compared to 00:04:139 (1) -> 00:16:139 (1) The sections that do sound the same, does not use the same spacing either. Which for consistency is very bad, due to how it makes the map come off as non structured.
2. Slider shapes are wonky/too curved most of the time and you miss a lot of blankets. Gives the impression of experimental/new mapper slidershapes. All objects, should have a clear thought behind them. Why is this slider pointing this way, or why is it placed here? Why is the spacing different between these two? etcetc. A lot of sliders right now feels off in that sense. I can not seem to understand why they are pointed in the way they are, which a modder hopefully should be able to do. This is because they are not consistently done in one or two ways. But are done in so many ways that there is no clear structure. Examples are- 00:04:139 (1) - and 00:06:139 (1) - Both are seemingly shaped the same but they are curved differently. One curved too much, and one curved less. This trend continues thoughout the map.
3. Irregular/non consistent rythm choices. Quite self-explanatory. Your use of rythm is somewhat okey, but points you seem to drop the consistency for the sake of what you want to do at that exact moment. It breaks structure and makes it feel random. Examples- 00:04:139 (1,2,3,1,2) - and 00:12:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'll write more about this in the overmapping section. But this seem to be a common trend throughout the map, which you should try and fix.
4. Ending sliders or downbeats/snares & other strong beats a lot of the time. Also quite self-explanatory and easy to fix. Examples- 00:06:806 (4) - 00:08:473 (2) - 00:17:640 (4) -
5. Wonky/non structured stream shapes. This is the same issue as the slider one mostly. Try use convert slider to stream more OR create polygon circle for circle streams. Examples- 00:46:973 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - a wonky S shape 00:58:973 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - wonky circle stream 01:32:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Doesn't fit the music at all.
6. Lots of flat angles on jumps. AKA degree >= 90 (Squares included) This is what bothers me the most, but it may mostly be because I'm a big hater of flat angles in generel due to how they play, like shit. The general conensus is to try and avoid using flat angles as long as the music does not beg for them to be used. So in one way it's very subjective, but that does not make it okay for it to play like shit. Reduce the amount of squares you use, as well as things like this. Example- 00:30:806 (5,6,1) - too high spacing to play as a fluid "stream like movement" and not enough spacing to justify you having to snap to it.
7. Unneccessary SV changes during vocals. Do not do this. Example- 00:42:139 (1,1,1,1,1) - I see what you are trying to do and in some cases it is perfectly fine. But it does not fit in this song. You could achieve seemingly the same kind of effect by using different spacing depending of the power of the singer. And as long as you do the same spacing, at the same beat, throughout the map it will be structured.
8. Overmapping. (Mapping beats that simply does not exist within the song) 00:12:139 (1,2,3,4,5) - ??? There is nothing that calls for 1/4 sliderspam here at all. The guitar simply does not shred fast enough at all... It is also not consistently done throughout the sections that sound the same. So in short do not do this. Ever. 00:14:806 (5,6,7) - here as well.
9. Undermapping. (Missing beats that exists within the song) 00:04:639 - Missing bass beat here and since you're not consistently missing the same bass beat through the section there's not reason for you to miss this. 00:48:639 - Should end the slider here since it now ends on a strong beat. Would be better to use a circle for that to make it an active beat.
   
   ill go ahead and post this and give kudos as i work through all of these. im basically remapping everything ;;(
   
   However at the end of every dark tunnel is the light of the exit. You have some solid ideas and concepts that you use consistently.
   
   00:00:140 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Nicely done, even though the sliders can look better the idea fits the song very good.
   
   00:36:140 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1) - These kind of back 'n' forth jumps fits the song seemingly perfect, yet again the execution could be better.
   
   01:03:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - Very simply and effective stream. Looks nice and plays nice.
   
   01:12:139 (1,2,3,1) - Good way of sewing together the crash hits with the guitar. Could do the same on the last note instead of using a single. The shapes of the sliders could be improved though.
   
   02:16:140 (1) -> 02:23:140 (1) - Yet again the back 'n' forths that fits so well with the music, but the placement of some notes could be more well thought out.
   appreciate the kind thoughts too

Better of Dead

SPOILER

• 
  00:16:139 (1,2,3) - Could make this a triangle by copy pasting the first slider twice and rotating them 120 degrees and -120 degrees.
  
  00:20:140 (1) -Copy paste this and CTRL+J to replace the next slider to make it look better.
  
  00:24:139 (1) - Weird placement and curve. Could try and blanket it with 00:23:806 (7) -
  
  00:25:140 (4,5,1) - Flat angle, plays weird.
  
  00:32:139 (1,1) - Wonky looking slides, just make them simpler.
  
  00:41:140 (5) - Emphasise this beat more with higher spacing.
  
  00:41:973 (9) - ^
  
  00:55:473 (1,2) - Spacing is too smal compared to the rest of the section.
  
  00:56:473 (1) - Skipping beats by using this slider.
  
  00:56:806 (1) - ^
  
  01:00:639 (3,4) - and 01:01:806 (3,4,1) - You gotta keep it consistent. The first one is hella spaced and jumpy and the 2nd one makes you stop completely.
  
  01:03:306 (4,1) - Should be a triple.
  
  01:07:806 (1,2,3,4,5) - Would argue that you should use repeat sliders for this due to the pause right beforehand. Harder to acc because of it and it is frustrating.
  
  01:09:139 (3) - No need for a repeatslider here. Replace sliderend with either a slider or a single.
  
  01:18:140 (1) - Slider instead of a single.
  
  01:18:473 (2) - Ends on a strong beat.
  
  01:18:473 (2) - End spinner here instead. (think u messed up here but i think i know what u meant.)
  
  too lazy to go through all of the stuff in the box but i changed everything here

That was all from me, I hope you find this useful and not too demoralizing. The point is to make you improve not to scare you away!

Good luck in the future and happy mapping!

not too demoralizing.

Arutsuki wrote:

also I didnt notice before but why's the audio cut so weirdly at the end, maybe you got a bad version?

Arutsuki wrote:

here we go again

also I didnt notice before but why's the audio cut so weirdly at the end, maybe you got a bad version?

extra

•put some kaiai on the choruses pls
•00:00:140 - you should use something like this. the way it is now the sliders basically cover small breaks between the guitar strokes so it feels unnatural to play when theres little sound and not play when there is sound
•00:03:306 - this sound here should be clickable and 00:03:389 - this sound here should be mapped so you dont miss it. simply said just make a triplet there
•00:16:139 (1) - dont put sliderends on important or intense sounds like this, use them where the sound is the same or lower as the one on the start of it (the "same" part doesnt apply here since it's a pretty long slider
•00:47:639 (4,1) - i'd make these a bit more spaced since the kicksliders before don't overlap, it feels kinda underwhelming to have no movement into the burst
•01:12:139 (1) - lol those lines, try using some red points for slider art as well, they come in handy
•01:52:139 (1,2,3) - i'd make these triplets more spaced or make it a kickslider into a signle circle, since the sound is pretty intense I think it works better than still triplets
•02:24:056 (8) - pretty important sound at the end here dont leave it out

•01:12:139 (1) - lol those lines, try using some red points for slider art as well, they come in handy

Zyl wrote:

Still need the BG?