Bakari wrote:

Yo, as per your request.

[General]

1. As much as I appreciate the beautiful background I do not see any relevancy with the song. I've nothing against real-life photos, but I also want to make sure that everything in the set is here because it makes sense with the song. Already answered on previous post~
2. Kiais are inconsistent. Which does not make much sense provided that all the diffs are made by you. Fixed
3. I would recommend adding an Easy difficulty. With the ton of overlapped 1/2 beats Normal using I just keep thinking than an easier verwsion would fit nicely with the spread. Fixed

[Normal]

1. 00:24:934 (5,6) - I would prefer two 1/2 sliders for the strings. A circle and a 1/2 slider could also fit welll example Basically, just try something like 00:27:260 (3) Fixed, rearrange the first part
2. 00:31:446 (4,5) - something similar to the suggestion above, sticking with the vocals instead of excessively using 1/2 should work better, something like this. Done
3. 00:45:399 - the peak of the vocals is here, while the slider begins 1/2 earlier. Whatever you were going for is definitely not as intense as the vocals are. Try a circle and an 1/2 slider? Same explanation like on Hard
   Note: 00:48:888 (2) - 00:52:841 - 00:54:469 (5) - 01:29:818 (2) - 01:37:260 (2) - same here.
   
   Beautiful flow, neat patterning. Just a bit of discomfort with the sliders mentioned above.

[Hard]

1. 00:30:283 (2) - the peak of the vocals is here, while the slider begins 1/2 earlier. Whatever you were going for is definitely not as intense as the vocals are. Try a circle and an 1/2 slider? Because I try to follow the bass instead, if you hear more carefully there is actually a bass sound play on 00:30:283 - and etc that mostly on red tick before the vocal like you mention above and so far they are plays great and consistent enough on this part 00:29:585 - , 00:44:469 - , 01:14:236 -
   Note: 00:32:143 (2) - 00:37:725 (2) - 00:39:585 (2) - same here and so on.
2. 01:28:655 (3,4) - I would probably use a 1/4 slider here. Sounds a lot better with the drums. Umm if I use a triplet there, imo that would be a bit too much since we already have a 1/4 slider with reverse here 01:27:492 (2) - , so I decide to follow the bass sound instead with a bit larger spacing, also reorganized the jump pattern into a better one
   
   Pretty nice one. I didn't like a few patterns with the sliders mentioned above but otherwise it's a candy.

Apart from a few things I've listed it should be okay. Get a few more mods and try searching for a BN.

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Best of luck! Thank you so much Bakari, I'll find a little more mods before finding a bn

O-Moei wrote:

Hi !, 🌀NM atau 💑M4M sama aja deh

✨ = Suggestion
💧 = Uuhhh?
💥 = Warning !!!

Here we go...

General :
💧Itu cuma di diff Normal yang ga pake WS. Samain ka xD WS te naon, waroeng steak yaa, fixed anyway!

Normal :
✨00:39:353 (6,7) - Blanket ka? Kayanya udah ok deh
✨01:05:864 (6) - White dot terakhirnya di x472y362 Blanketnya malah tambah lebar o.o
✨01:24:469 (7) - White dot tengah di x405y228 white dot akhir di x461y256 Fixed

Hard :
Ga ada masalah =w= ;D

Oke, good luck !

Mako Sakata wrote:

O-Moei wrote:

General :
💧Itu cuma di diff Normal yang ga pake WS. Samain ka xD WS te naon, waroeng steak yaa, fixed anyway!

O-Moei wrote:

Hi !, 🌀NM atau 💑M4M sama aja deh

✨ = Suggestion
💧 = Uuhhh?
💥 = Warning !!!

Here we go...

General :
💧Itu cuma di diff Normal yang ga pake WS. Samain ka xD

Alarido's Soft :
✨00:18:422 (1) - Try the spinner ends here 00:21:213 - . Sounds lovelier there ► Done. (although someone might complain on objects appearing right before spinner itself ends... let's try and discover~ )

Oke, good luck !

O-Moei wrote:

Betrayal :
💧Ntu ada kiai time nyungsep ditengah gapapa gituh? xD (diff lain ga gitu =w= ) no prob for GD
✨01:13:771 (9) - NC ? still connected to previous NC
✨01:40:283 (1) - kyknya ini bagus klo wave nya yg dikasih red dot ditengah itu ???
✨01:44:004 (8) - NC buat closing scene, biar sama kyk diff lain well, nope

O-Moei wrote:

Niva senpai ga main lagi ka? Pengen ketemu =w=

1. Fine. I noticed somethin, like you added a Kiai fountain at 00:29:585 in the highest diff, Why didn't you put the same kiai fountain at the other diffs ? It could be nice !

1. Maybe you could but AR2.5 cause it's better to play with 2.5.
2. 01:25:399 : tbh, you could improve this blanket. It's weird, in this actual state, So put the end circle like that : http://puu.sh/qPgXQ/e374aa0cf3.jpg It will improve a bit more the blanket imo.
3. 01:44:004 : It will be nice if you do a blanket with the previous slider
4. Rest is pretty fine for me

1. 00:22:143 : Imo, you could put the slider's curve at left, like that : http://puu.sh/qPh8c/bd3bd4fb68.jpg for a better flow.
2. 00:24:004 (4,5) : Little blanket at the end of the slider and the next slider shape, fix it :3
3. 00:39:353 (6,7) : Same as above
4. 01:11:911 (3,4) : Really little blanket here.
5. 01:28:655 (5) : Blanket with the next slider.
6. 01:34:242 : I think it's better to put this circle here 120|224 for a better flow, and then, after, edit the slider (4) good for DS.
7. Rest is good

1. 00:34:004 : Just a blanket here with the circle (4) and the end of the slider (1)
2. 01:07:260 (1,2) : blanket here (small)
3. Rest is fine

1. 00:34:120 (2) : stack it please, it's better (imo)
2. 00:43:306 (3) : ^
3. rest is good

SORRY BUT I COULDN'T RESIST TO PUT THIS IN MY MOD

1. Does BG even have something to do with the song?

1. 00:34:236 (2) - Miga, eu faria alguma coisa aqui além desse slider grande perdendo várias batidas, acho que você podia usar 1/1 nessa parte assim o ritmo ficaria mais intuitivo e legal. Podia fazer assim: http://puu.sh/qOsGV/94bf9c244f.jpg PS: 00:41:678 (2) - Mesma coisa aqui ♥
2. 01:01:213 (3) - Tá faltando uma palminha na setinha do slider
3. 01:08:655 (3) - Por que aqui vc colocou um 3/1 sendo que você podia ter feito 2/1 que nem você fez no (1), já que é o mesmo ritmo nos dois.

1. Would you mind changing AR to 5 or 5.5? I guess it would fit better than 4.5, especially to fit with the diff/increase well among diffs.

1. 00:27:725 (1) - Would be better if this were CTRL + G tbh, the flow is pretty weird with that current pattern ;w;
2. 01:03:074 (1,4) - This overlap looks weird :U
3. 01:29:353 (2) - 01:33:074 (2) - those rhythm seems pretty weird to be honest, maybe you could try following both intrumental/vocals, as you wouldn't ignore the strong beat here 01:29:585 (2).

1. 00:21:388 (1,2) - I have to say this one seems too sudden, wouldn't be better if you just extend the spinner to here 00:21:911 (2)?
2. 00:34:120 (2,3) - 00:43:306 (3,4) - Are those stacks like that in purpose?
3. 01:20:283 (2) - Would turn this slider to a 1/2 so you would have this 01:20:632 (3) - clickable, also to make it more consistent.

Imakuri wrote:

Yes. If I was BN. Yes. YES PUTAIN YES THIS SONG IS ALL MY CHILDHOOD !
From Me just NM and cuz lol you requested in the #Modreqs too so, here's my mod :

General

1. Fine. I noticed somethin, like you added a Kiai fountain at 00:29:585 in the highest diff, Why didn't you put the same kiai fountain at the other diffs ? It could be nice ! Okay added on my diffs, but I'm not sure about Alarido's diff

Normal

1. 00:22:143 : Imo, you could put the slider's curve at left, like that : http://puu.sh/qPh8c/bd3bd4fb68.jpg for a better flow.
2. 00:24:004 (4,5) : Little blanket at the end of the slider and the next slider shape, fix it :3
3. 00:39:353 (6,7) : Same as above
4. 01:11:911 (3,4) : Really little blanket here.
5. 01:28:655 (5) : Blanket with the next slider.
6. 01:34:242 : I think it's better to put this circle here 120|224 for a better flow, and then, after, edit the slider (4) good for DS. Fixed all
7. Rest is good

Hard

1. 00:34:004 : Just a blanket here with the circle (4) and the end of the slider (1) Okay
2. 01:07:260 (1,2) : blanket here (small) Fixed
3. Rest is fine

Well i'm sorry for this awful mod ;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w; It was really, short sorry, but the map is pretty gud.
Take my star ! (ノ･ω･)ノ Thanks <3
Good luck with rank, Imakuri~

SORRY BUT I COULDN'T RESIST TO PUT THIS IN MY MOD

pls forgive meh Lol that picture again hahaha I hate you <3

MkGuh wrote:

Hey, from queue! Thanks for coming~

[General]

1. Does BG even have something to do with the song? Yes, bad girls xD actually nothing in particular I just follow my intuition to match with the song lyric not with the source in general

[Normal]

1. Would you mind changing AR to 5 or 5.5? I guess it would fit better than 4.5, especially to fit with the diff/increase well among diffs. Okay use ar 5

Actually I couldn't find anything really worth to list here. Nice!

[Hard]

1. 00:27:725 (1) - Would be better if this were CTRL + G tbh, the flow is pretty weird with that current pattern ;w; I will try work that out
2. 01:03:074 (1,4) - This overlap looks weird :U No they aren't;; the ar fit perfectly makes the circle easier to read imo
3. 01:29:353 (2) - 01:33:074 (2) - those rhythm seems pretty weird to be honest, maybe you could try following both intrumental/vocals, as you wouldn't ignore the strong beat here 01:29:585 (2). Blame the vocal, I actually want to follow the vocal there, but unfortunately the vocal seems on 3/4, so that rhythm is the best one that can I have atm

Seems cute!

Great! Your mapset seems pretty much ready for a BN check already; 10/10 would bubble if were BN!

Imakuri wrote:

Yes. If I was BN. Yes. YES PUTAIN YES THIS SONG IS ALL MY CHILDHOOD !
From Me just NM and cuz lol you requested in the #Modreqs too so, here's my mod :

General

1. Fine. I noticed somethin, like you added a Kiai fountain at 00:29:585 in the highest diff, Why didn't you put the same kiai fountain at the other diffs ? It could be nice !

Soft

1. Maybe you could but AR2.5 cause it's better to play with 2.5.
2. 01:25:399 : tbh, you could improve this blanket. It's weird, in this actual state, So put the end circle like that : http://puu.sh/qPgXQ/e374aa0cf3.jpg It will improve a bit more the blanket imo. ► feels enough done (in the editor), somewhat changed before, kept.
3. 01:44:004 : It will be nice if you do a blanket with the previous slider ► It's at the tip of 01:44:004 (1) - did on purpose. kept.
4. Rest is pretty fine for me

Well i'm sorry for this awful mod ;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w; It was really, short sorry, but the map is pretty gud.
Take my star ! (ノ･ω･)ノ
Good luck with rank, Imakuri~

SORRY BUT I COULDN'T RESIST TO PUT THIS IN MY MOD

pls forgive meh

MkGuh wrote:

[Alarido's Easy]

00:34:236 (2) - Miga, eu faria alguma coisa aqui além desse slider grande perdendo várias batidas, acho que você podia usar 1/1 nessa parte assim o ritmo ficaria mais intuitivo e legal. Podia fazer assim: http://puu.sh/qOsGV/94bf9c244f.jpg PS: 00:41:678 (2) - Mesma coisa aqui ♥ ► É um caso a se pensar... Decidi deixar bem mais suave, usando nós (ou nodos ou nódulos) vermelhos (e as dobras) como "smoothy impacto" no lugar do por ti sugerido. Tomei nota, mantido por enquanto.
01:01:213 (3) - Tá faltando uma palminha na setinha do slider ► Consertado. Brigadooooo~
01:08:655 (3) - Por que aqui vc colocou um 3/1 sendo que você podia ter feito 2/1 que nem você fez no (1), já que é o mesmo ritmo nos dois. ► Feito, até botei mais simetria (hi Andrea~).

Plaudible wrote:

Alarido's Soft

00:40:748 (1) - Double check this blanket. Position at 00:40:050. I put the endpoint at x168 y332, seemed to do the trick! ► Done (in a bit diverse manner).
01:01:213 (3) - Sorry for blanket mod here, easy's don't have much else to mod though ;-; End point of this one is a bit iffy too. Position at 01:00:516 and move the endpoint to x480 y104. ► Done.
01:30:981 (2) - Blanket. Move middle point to x244 y68. ► Done.

Can you have this called "Soft?" Sorry, not too sure about it, since afaik you can only have the hardest difficulty in the set have a custom name, but since you're experienced I'm assuming that this is allowed, throwing it in just in case though!

Mitkoff wrote:

Alarido's soft

heh, looks good

00:44:469 (1,2) - 1.10 please, seems closer then other spacing, also 00:46:329 (2,1) - 1.10 here ► Changed a bit.
01:26:329 (2,3,4) -honestly i don't like this flow, can this sliders be more symmetry? (01:26:329 (2,3) - this angle better than 01:27:725 (3,4) - if You ask me) ► Changed LOTS of things but finally flows better now.

Other fine for me

Plaudible wrote:

Betrayal
00:18:423 (1,1) - Could you reduce the spacing here? It's a bit aggressive for an early part of this song especially for 3 star difficulty. I'd move it closer to the center to be easier to hit. uhh well, it's supposed to be an Insane diff (though it's just only got 3.2 SR) reduced spinner length by 1/2 instead.
01:13:074 (5,6,7,8) - Just a suggestion... could these be sliders maybe? Doubles are a hard thing to play for players who play at this difficulty, especially if it's 2 in a row like this. The rhythm can be confusing. 2 1/4 sliders would be much more appropriate IMO. Even what you have at 01:27:725 (3,4,5,6) is a better alternative. tried to change both to 1/4 slider, it just won't work smh :/

Plaudible wrote:

Hey mako~ o/
Not sure if you need to accept m4m or not >_<; but if you do and don't like the song I linked feel free to just consider this a NM. Here's my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/480736

Madcon - Beggin'

Normal
00:34:702 (3) - Personal opinion on some aesthetics here, so far you've used 3 straight sliders, and they could compliment each other a bit better. To improve flow to 00:35:167 (4), why not map the slider bent like: http://puu.sh/qVGE8/ab598a7a67.jpg. You did so at 01:04:934 (4,5,6), and it looks fabulous there Fixed nice catch
01:05:864 (6) - Double check blanket. Bit iffy to fix, here's what I did: Done, such a nice explanation xD

• -Temporarily move 6 closer to 01:06:795 (1) so you can see the approach circle better, perhaps put the end on the red tick before it.
  -Position yourself at 01:06:562.
  -Move mid slider point to x496 y308
  -Move end point to x456 y372
  Seemed to do the trick for me.

01:11:446 (3) - Double check this one as well. Sorry for nazi blanket mod, only choosing the ones that seem relatively easy to fix Slider midpoint at x320 y304, end at x380 y272. Fixed
01:24:469 (7,2) - Not perfectly stacked, double check this. Fixed

Hate to do nazi blanket mods, but it's hard not to when difficulties are already well made >_< srry. Seems emphasis is in all the right places, don't see any missed claps that aren't purposely on sliderends. That's fine, I can't make a good blanket on the first place :p

Hard
00:26:795 (3) - I believe this ribbon slider could be a bit better. I have the first point at x88 y96, second at x128 y96, third at x164 y76. Ok readjust the third point instead
00:58:423 (3) - This is the only place where you stagger the slider like this in this diff, why not just stack for consistency? Yeah that was intentional, I want to give it a clear visibility instead a stacked on 00:57:492 (1,3) -
01:26:795 (3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - Not so sure about this, quite a difficulty spike, but it's your choice I guess. http://puu.sh/qVHKm/d271ea3664.png The spike is mostly for a built up of the song, the drum sound seems dense on some part so I decide to map it with rather simple 1/4 slider repeat, slightly readjust the placement
01:32:841 (1,2,3) - Feels like quite a sudden jump compared to the rest of the same rhythm in this section.I think the vocal "Yeah" and "Hey" should be emphsize more, similarry with 01:30:283 (3) - 01:34:004 (3) - and 01:37:725 (4) - which is consistent enough so far
01:39:585 - This kick should be clickable. Umm the current seems good, consistent with 01:31:678 (2) -

Great song, thanks for letting me discover it. Well mapped difficulties in general that fit the song appropriately. Good luck! Thank you very much, you are welcome

Mitkoff wrote:

Hello ,

Yeeeey i like this song so much...
Wanna full version Yayy

Normal
00:28:655 (5) - i suggest make it curve slider as well cause of oval flow Uhm that actually a paralel with 00:27:725 (4,5) - so far plays good

-_-

01:17:957 (1,2) - blanket could be bettter Done

-_-

01:16:097 (4,5,6) - there isn't 1 line 6 a bit higher (-6 degrees and make in 1 line pls) They are straight enough o.o I have a special method to make sure its straightness dw~
01:29:120 -rythm there are confusing for me, i think its off of vocal. Artist definitely changed maner of singing but he emphasizes the three parts in the 1st line of the couplet, here -> (01:29:120 - 01:30:516 - ) curerrent one feels more like 2. And then rythm feels fine -> (01:30:981 - 01:32:376 -) Goddamn i can't explain it in english >.<
Anyway, i suggest change this rythm to this one What do You think? I get the point haha xD your explanation same with bakari, so actually on that part for both on normal and hard I try to follow the bass instead the vocal, not that bad during playing so far imo

Hard
00:29:585 (1,2) - Honestly i dislik this 2nd slider rythm It starts on weak beat and skip strong huh imo 00:30:516 - beats like this should be clickable, (at least where is start for vocal...) aaaaaaaaaaaaa it makes me crazy If you hear closer there is a bass sound around that red tick

You can easily skip this, but 01:05:864 (4,5,6) - what about don't change ds here, make it same? After a bit spead up in vocal? Orz Yeah I want to highlight the vocal with a little jump, so it can produce a nice stop momentum on 01:00:748 (5,1) - etc

01:33:074 (2,3) - too spaced, this red tick don't deserve it Why ;(? I think the vocal "Yeah" and "Hey" should be emphsize more, similarry with 01:30:283 (3) - 01:34:004 (3) - and 01:37:725 (4) - which is consistent enough so far
01:37:492 (3,4) - ^

it's supposed to be M4M but if You dislike song or mod was uselees oor whatever feel free to skip req. I just glad to see map for this song.
Hope anything will be hlpfull... Don't worry~ thank you so much for mod and star!

Anyway,
Take lucky star

Goodluck /

1. Shouldn't it say "Easy"?
2. 01:01:213 (3,4,1) - This could've been symmetrical.
   
   SPOILER

   
3. Other than that great diff. ^^"

1. 00:27:725 (4,5) - make these more parallel.
2. 00:39:818 (7) - You should be able to blanket the tail of this into 00:38:888 (4,5,6) - these three

1. 00:39:585 (2,3,4) - use a curved motion for the curved slider
2. 01:00:516 (4) - ~163|28 for less overlap, and a nice triangle
3. 01:28:190 (1,2,3,4,1) - even out the shape

1. I can't find anything rip.

Jonawaga wrote:

M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5448095#p5448095
in your queue!
[Soft]

1. Shouldn't it say "Easy"? ► maybe either.
2. 01:01:213 (3,4,1) - This could've been symmetrical.
   
   SPOILER

   
3. Other than that great diff. ^^"

Good Luck~!!

Jonawaga wrote:

M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5448095#p5448095
in your queue! Yes I will mod yours

[Normal]

1. 00:27:725 (4,5) - make these more parallel. OK
2. 00:39:818 (7) - You should be able to blanket the tail of this into 00:38:888 (4,5,6) - these three Somehow they are good already o.o

[Hard]

1. 00:39:585 (2,3,4) - use a curved motion for the curved slider Fixed
2. 01:00:516 (4) - ~163|28 for less overlap, and a nice triangle Nice idea, applied on the rest section
3. 01:28:190 (1,2,3,4,1) - even out the shape Already a good star shape o.o

Good Luck~!!

• Suggestion:
  Might be (or is) unrankable:
  I recommend that you fix this:
  I'm not sure why you used this. Explain it to me please:

1. Your BG doesn't associate with the song, Step Up 3D nor the artist. I read your previous mods that you received and your answers to the same suggestion. It has been mentioned a couple of times so you should change it since your current BG picture has no relation to the song whatsoever. I recommend that you try to find one that is related to either one of these. You dont necessarily have to choose a BG that is related to the movie tho as the song is not specifically made for it, you just chose to associate it with the movie because maybe you heard it the first time through the movie. Anyway, I found a few that could fit. The first one you need to crop to fit the BG sizes that you need for ranking. Personally I would choose one of the artist related ones as they are universal and don't have to necessarily associate with anything. Although, I like the song related one too since it's a shot from the original MV.
   Step Up 3D related: Piccy1
   Song / MV related: Piccy2
   Artist related: Piccy3 / Piccy4
   
2. The Easy difficulty has to indicate it's difficulty level in the name. This is a RC rule and you must follow this rule. I would also recommend to include the "Betrayal"'s mapper's name in the difficulty name. It's not against the RC rules but it might make ppl think that you mapped this difficulty. Initially, I thought you mapped this difficulty by yourself too until I looked at the thread message for you map. Regardless, you have to fix the Easy name problem. "A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming." Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
   
3. The mapset spread is not quite balanced. The star gap between Easy and Normal is 0,5 stars while the gap between Normal and Hard is 0,9. Even the gap between Hard and Insane, which is 0,7, is smaller than the gap between N and H. You should try to adjust the difficulty settings for Normal or Hard in order to make the spread more balanced. I think the issue is that you used 0,8 BSD for Normal, while Easy and Hard have 1,1 BSD. It would take a bit of time to adjust it but try increasing the BSD by 0,1-0,2 and adjust the spacing for your Normal difficulty. The draining time without the spinner at the start is about 1:20 mins. You can easily adjust this for this difficulty. Additionally, add a few more rhythmically complex patterns into your Normal. Some patterns are close to being too "Easy" for a "Normal" difficulty. Especially the parts that only contain slider patterns. You have a lot of those in your Normal. Aim to get your Normal to Hard gap down to 0,7ish. It really is too easy for this spread setup. The Normal could almost be an Easy tbh.
   "Below 1.50: Easy
   1.50-2.25: Normal
   2.25-3.75: Hard
   3.75-5.25: Insane" Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria

• 
  Rhythm & Pattern (in addition to the simplisitc pattern issue stated in "General"):

1. 00:35:864 - 00:43:306 - 01:17:725 - 01:20:516 - 01:25:167 - 01:27:957 - Add a circle here to make this pattern more complex.
2. 00:44:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These are, again, too simplistic for a Normal difficulty. Try to use different patterns instead of the same one 3 times in a row. Same goes for the upcoming ones that are the same. You could for example place a circle here 00:47:027 - and a 1/2 slider from 00:47:260 - to 00:47:492 -
3. Try this rhythm for 01:12:376 (4,5,6) - instead. It would fit more to the music and increase the pattern difficulty more into smth complex. http://puu.sh/r20dH/adc3b32eaa.jpg

• 
  Visual and Readability Issues:

1. 00:25:864 (1,2,3) - The 1/2 slider is literally the only big concern about this difficulty. For one, the slider is overlapping with the 1/1 slider and is only 50% visible. It is not unrankable but highly disturbing and interfering for a fluent gameplay. Two, this is the only pattern you used this almost hidden slider for. There is no other pattern where you used such an overlapping slider in this difficulty. Three, the starting circle for the slider is also half hidden and it should be fully visible to grant a fluent gameplay. It's not a mapping characteristic that you used commonly in this difficulty, you only used it once, so you should fix this issue and move it somewhere else where it's fully visible. It's nearly the beginning of the map so you might try stacking like this http://puu.sh/r20Rq/96dc002288.jpg and then move this whole section down 00:22:143 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - to make the spacing correct between 00:26:795 (3,4) - . It wouldn't hurt your flow either.

• 
  Rhythm & Pattern:

1. 00:21:388 (1,2) - Even though this is rhythmically correct. It is really off from the rest of the mapping and rhythm. Especially at the beginning of the map and shortly after a spinner it is really difficult to play this pattern correctly. The synth is also a bit too low for it to be 100% discernable since the music that hits at 00:22:143 - is quite loud by comparison. It also is not quite an essential part of the song that should be mapped. It is rather a short introduction than something that has rhythm and that you can map to properly. I would suggest that you remove this pattern in order to grant smoother gameplay without any confusion from discrepancies to the rest of the song and extend the spinner to 00:21:911 - as it's the point where the "beggin" vocal ends.
   
   Combo:
2. I know you can have differences from difficulty to difficulty but I'd like to mention that 01:44:004 (8) - this should have a NC as the Hard does too. It also is a downbeat so it can be justified. Up to you tho. "Combos are usually placed to either match the vocal/musical phrases or to indicate the downbeat of each measure. In special cases, combos are used in indicating any discrepancies in spacing or slider velocity." Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Modding

1. Really short mod apart from the General section. I really hope you can fix the spread up a bit more to make it balanced. The rest of the difficulties plays really smooth. The hitsounding also is spotless and supports the song perfectly. Good job. Can't wait to see this ranked. Have a star from me for support

[u]Was the mod helpful?[/u]
1. Yes, it helped me a lot! The advice was really useful. I will definitely come back for more.
2. The mod was helpful! Most suggestions were useful to me.
3. It was good but there is room for improvement. I could apply only a few suggestions.
4. The suggestions and advice weren't explained properly. I appreciated the effort but it didn't help me to improve my map, sadly.
5. Awful! I won't visit this queue again. It didn't help me at all. 

BounceBabe wrote:

Insane
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• 
  Rhythm & Pattern:

1. 00:21:388 (1,2) - Even though this is rhythmically correct. It is really off from the rest of the mapping and rhythm. Especially at the beginning of the map and shortly after a spinner it is really difficult to play this pattern correctly. The synth is also a bit too low for it to be 100% discernable since the music that hits at 00:22:143 - is quite loud by comparison. It also is not quite an essential part of the song that should be mapped. It is rather a short introduction than something that has rhythm and that you can map to properly. I would suggest that you remove this pattern in order to grant smoother gameplay without any confusion from discrepancies to the rest of the song and extend the spinner to 00:21:911 - as it's the point where the "beggin" vocal ends.
   shorten the spinner, keep the sliders. pretty much easier to follow now (I'll keep the sliders because it just played fine, using spinner to 'overlap' those sound will just make it even worse)
   
   Combo:
2. I know you can have differences from difficulty to difficulty but I'd like to mention that 01:44:004 (8) - this should have a NC as the Hard does too. It also is a downbeat so it can be justified. Up to you tho. "Combos are usually placed to either match the vocal/musical phrases or to indicate the downbeat of each measure. In special cases, combos are used in indicating any discrepancies in spacing or slider velocity." Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Modding
   I'd NC it if the circle is not on the end of triplet, because somehow it played awkward, and there's also many pro mapper use the same technique (not using NC the last note on stream), so I'm assuming it's ok to follow it

Shmiklak wrote:

[Betrayal]

1. i suggest to put circle here 00:21:213 - it's same sound as you mapped then, and should be mapped too.
   it has really low sound, but clearly hear-able with headset || anyway done
   fine

Shmiklak wrote:

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[soft]

1. 01:29:120 (1) - what did you follow here? i know that it has sound on 1/2 but it's simplest diff, so players will try to follow strong sounds when playing like strong vocals and drums, but with your rythm it can be a bit confusing. what about changing it to 2 1/1 sliders? i think it should fit music and vocals better. ► Here's following the beat sequence 01:29:120 - 01:29:818 - 01:30:516, which is the reason behind this 3/2 repeating, which is symmetrical with 01:30:981 (2) - and, thus, they are symmetrical, both in rhythm and visually.
   01:36:562 (1) - same ► same applies here.
   01:30:981 (3) - and 01:38:422 (2) - here's it acceptable because vocals on 1/2 kinda strong.
   nice mapped

good luck with this nice set owo

BounceBabe wrote:

Request from my NON-Japanese Queue

What I checked in your mapset

Each point from the list below will have a check mark next to it (✓/ ✕/ ✫). This will tell you whether I checked that point or not.
✓= I checked this point and everything is okay.
✕= I didn't check this point because I think it doesn't need checking.
✫= I checked this point but something needs fixing (explained in the mod)
osu!wiki Modding page
osu!wiki Ranking Criteria page

📖 General 📖
✫ Mapset difficulty spread (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane)
✫ Background design, skin and SB (if available) and combo colouring
✓ Metadata
> resolution of images, mp3, files,...
> bit rate of song
> hitsounds
> skin (missing elements and resolution checks) and SB (SB load) or video

🕗 Timing 🕗
✓ KIAI time and breaks
✓ Slider Velocity and changes
✕ Timing changes
✕ Timing points
✕ BPM & Offset
✓ Preview point

🎧 Sound 🎧
✓ Hitsounds (Do they match the song?)
✓ Hitsound patterns
✓ Hitsound volume (Timing points)
✫ Rhythm of hit objects (Do they match the song?)

🖰 Object Gameplay 🖰
✓ Reasonable spacing patterns, spacing consistency, Jumps, Anti-Jumps, special pattern
✫ Flow and transition between elements
✓ Overmapping
✫ Other Issues (e.g. Interface, hidden notes, overlaps, stacking, inconsistecies,..)

👀 Visual Gameplay 👀
✫ Combo patterns, New combos
✕ Blankets, symmetry
✫ Variety of different patterns and styles

Icon Meaning
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• Suggestion:
  Might be (or is) unrankable:
  I recommend that you fix this:
  I'm not sure why you used this. Explain it to me please:

General
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1. Your BG doesn't associate with the song, Step Up 3D nor the artist. I read your previous mods that you received and your answers to the same suggestion. It has been mentioned a couple of times so you should change it since your current BG picture has no relation to the song whatsoever. I recommend that you try to find one that is related to either one of these. You dont necessarily have to choose a BG that is related to the movie tho as the song is not specifically made for it, you just chose to associate it with the movie because maybe you heard it the first time through the movie. Anyway, I found a few that could fit. The first one you need to crop to fit the BG sizes that you need for ranking. Personally I would choose one of the artist related ones as they are universal and don't have to necessarily associate with anything. Although, I like the song related one too since it's a shot from the original MV.
   Step Up 3D related: Piccy1
   Song / MV related: Piccy2
   Artist related: Piccy3 / Piccy4
   Actually regarding the bg, I try to express the theme and lyric of the music instead the artist or the source, also the song is released outside the Step Up 3D movie as well under the album name So Dark the Con of Man, I can simply just move Step Up 3D from the Source to the Tags instead if people keep complaining about it, I try my best to keep explaining this from the very beginning, hope you can understand the main concept on this one
   
2. The Easy difficulty has to indicate it's difficulty level in the name. This is a RC rule and you must follow this rule. I would also recommend to include the "Betrayal"'s mapper's name in the difficulty name. It's not against the RC rules but it might make ppl think that you mapped this difficulty. Initially, I thought you mapped this difficulty by yourself too until I looked at the thread message for you map. Regardless, you have to fix the Easy name problem. "A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming." Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
   I actually agree with this one, Soft supposed to be renamed into Easy in this case to keep the consistency with the other difficulty names, but it seems Alarido not agree with it
   
3. The mapset spread is not quite balanced. The star gap between Easy and Normal is 0,5 stars while the gap between Normal and Hard is 0,9. Even the gap between Hard and Insane, which is 0,7, is smaller than the gap between N and H. You should try to adjust the difficulty settings for Normal or Hard in order to make the spread more balanced. I think the issue is that you used 0,8 BSD for Normal, while Easy and Hard have 1,1 BSD. It would take a bit of time to adjust it but try increasing the BSD by 0,1-0,2 and adjust the spacing for your Normal difficulty. The draining time without the spinner at the start is about 1:20 mins. You can easily adjust this for this difficulty. Additionally, add a few more rhythmically complex patterns into your Normal. Some patterns are close to being too "Easy" for a "Normal" difficulty. Especially the parts that only contain slider patterns. You have a lot of those in your Normal. Aim to get your Normal to Hard gap down to 0,7ish. It really is too easy for this spread setup. The Normal could almost be an Easy tbh.
   "Below 1.50: Easy
   1.50-2.25: Normal
   2.25-3.75: Hard
   3.75-5.25: Insane" Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
   My Normal already have a lot of 1/2 rhythm mostly on 1/2 slider not in circles so the star rating is rather small because of it, I don't want to make the Normal is harder than it should be for the sake the gameplay, so I avoid a long chain of 1/2 rhythm or consecutive 1/2 rhythmical circles that will makes the overall playability dense, hope you can understand the main idea of this one

Normal
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These are just suggestion to increase your difficulty's level a bit. Feel free to adjust it however you want, but I strongly recommend that you do something to fix your spread. Fixed the overall star rating into 1.71, I hope that play well considering there is actually a lot of 1/2 rhytm to keep the mapset well balance

• 
  Rhythm & Pattern (in addition to the simplisitc pattern issue stated in "General"):

1. 00:35:864 - 00:43:306 - 01:17:725 - 01:20:516 - 01:25:167 - 01:27:957 - Add a circle here to make this pattern more complex. Fix, I do a diffrent way by adding some circles on 00:33:074 (8) - 00:40:516 (8) - 01:17:725 (8) - and 01:25:167 (8) - . Because if I follow your sugestion the whole 1/2 rhythm will become too long to play and make the diff harder than it should be
2. 00:44:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These are, again, too simplistic for a Normal difficulty. Try to use different patterns instead of the same one 3 times in a row. Same goes for the upcoming ones that are the same. You could for example place a circle here 00:47:027 - and a 1/2 slider from 00:47:260 - to 00:47:492 - Because I follow the bass so I tend to map that part more simple, it apply to Hard as well, and eventhough the rhythmical was same but the patterning is diffrent which make this diff not to repetitive in some point of times
3. Try this rhythm for 01:12:376 (4,5,6) - instead. It would fit more to the music and increase the pattern difficulty more into smth complex. http://puu.sh/r20dH/adc3b32eaa.jpg Umm that sugestion rather make the gameplay too hard to play than it should be, sorry not really agree with that one

Hard
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• 
  Visual and Readability Issues:

1. 00:25:864 (1,2,3) - The 1/2 slider is literally the only big concern about this difficulty. For one, the slider is overlapping with the 1/1 slider and is only 50% visible. It is not unrankable but highly disturbing and interfering for a fluent gameplay. Two, this is the only pattern you used this almost hidden slider for. There is no other pattern where you used such an overlapping slider in this difficulty. Three, the starting circle for the slider is also half hidden and it should be fully visible to grant a fluent gameplay. It's not a mapping characteristic that you used commonly in this difficulty, you only used it once, so you should fix this issue and move it somewhere else where it's fully visible. It's nearly the beginning of the map so you might try stacking like this http://puu.sh/r20Rq/96dc002288.jpg and then move this whole section down 00:22:143 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - to make the spacing correct between 00:26:795 (3,4) - . It wouldn't hurt your flow either.

Nothing else that bothers me in this difficulty. Really nice mapping, according to the song. Good hitsounding. Fluent gameplay. Fixed all, thanks for the compliment ><

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1. Really short mod apart from the General section. I really hope you can fix the spread up a bit more to make it balanced. The rest of the difficulties plays really smooth. The hitsounding also is spotless and supports the song perfectly. Good job. Can't wait to see this ranked. Have a star from me for support Thank you very much for your mod and star!

Add the following question and one of the options provided to your feedback on my mod please. It will help me improve my modding in the future. If you have anything else that you would like to tell me about my mod, write it after the poll. Thanks


Was the mod helpful?
1. Yes, it helped me a lot! The advice was really useful. I will definitely come back for more.
2. The mod was helpful! Most suggestions were useful to me.
3. It was good but there is room for improvement. I could apply only a few suggestions.
4. The suggestions and advice weren't explained properly. I appreciated the effort but it didn't help me to improve my map, sadly.
5. Awful! I won't visit this queue again. It didn't help me at all.

Shmiklak wrote:

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[general]

1. all difs were named as default "normal, hard", but easy was named "soft". it's not right. what about naming diffs like Soft, Advanced, Challenging, Betrayal? Very agree with this, but Alarido don't want to change it atm
2. could you please remove wattermark on BG in right down angle? Removing the watermark will violate my terms as one of the model with kapursirih as the photographer to use the photograph

[normal]

1. ar five is kinda high for normal on 129 bpm song. let make it at least 4.5 Okay
   nothing more. nice diff owo

btw i'm not agree with BounceBabe that you should make this diff harder. i think it has great number of 1/2 rythms, it's not overmapped and not undermapped.

[hard]

1. i don't understand your logic with these 1/1 sliders 00:30:283 (2) - 00:32:143 (2) - 00:34:004 (2) - etc. what do they follow? let look at this slider 00:30:283 (2) - it starts on sth like piano and tbh it's not really strong, and ends on drum, which much stronger then piano, and it also doesn't fit vocals which starts at 00:30:516 - i suggest to use this rythm http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/RC1CRhPN this rythm distinguish everything what did i say. same for all same sliders if you'll do it. Because I follow the bass respectivelly on the red tick for each point that you point out, try to hear the main music a bit closer~
   other is fine

good luck with this nice set owo

1. How about AR8.7-8.8?
2. 00:21:213 (1,2,3) - I know it might be very picky from Krfawy (which is me) but I think the map would play nicer if this part got deleted and a break were pasted instead. It's just because the sounds are quite chaotic here and it's not that rhythmical, so that's why I'm suggesting it even if it's the Insane difficulty.
3. 00:35:632 (2,3,4,5) - and 01:20:283 (2,3,4,5) - Personally I get confused when I see this slider and then the stacks because firstly my reaction was like "Oh, what a cute, innocent and beautiful 1/2 slider with a nice triple that completes the picute of the marvel!" and then my reality got ruined because I understood that was a 3/4 slider lik the previous one. Maybe it's just me, but it would be less misleading if the pattern was mapped like a regular stream like *THIS* or something similar. Not sure why, but honestly 00:44:120 (6,7,8,1) - that was more obvious than the stack and that was really confusing to me. ;___;
4. 01:07:725 (1) - I can't help myself thinking the transition between the circle before (01:07:492 (5) - ) and this note and the transition between the very slow slider and the following note (01:08:655 (1) - ) would be improved if the slider was a bit curved like *THIS*
5. 01:43:074 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - If you listen carefully with 25% speed, you'll be able to hear there is a specific sound on 01:43:190 - that seems to be the percussion, or >at least< the resembling stuff that would be benefitial if mapped I believe. Simply, I advice the mapper map a circle here and makes a nice penta stream.

1. How about AR7.7?
2. 00:36:562 (5) - and 01:21:213 (5) - Personally I'd CTRL+G them to make them flow nicer, just my opinion.
3. 01:32:841 (1,2) - Maybe this would be a nice idea to place the circle on the reverse and to swap the sliderend with the sliderhead? Surely that would easen the transition from the previous note and the flow between another ones would be smoother as well!
4. 01:43:074 (3,4,5,6) - So in Betreyal difficulty I suggested a circle 01:43:190 - here but I guess it would be a bit too complex in Hard difficulty like this, wouldn't it?

1. How about AR5.2-5.5?

Krfawy wrote:

I forgot this song existed and then I saw it in your pending maps because I was checking pro mappers if they've been mapping songs I do like. I wish it were the full version. ;_; Still, I love Mako's beatmap. Yeah I know, hope you will make the longer version of this one :p

What a bunch of cute moes in the background! o3o/ I take that as a compliment, thank you <3

Hard

1. How about AR7.7? Fixed
2. 00:36:562 (5) - and 01:21:213 (5) - Personally I'd CTRL+G them to make them flow nicer, just my opinion. Umm I prefer the current position, I want to highlight the bass on both part without using a zig zag pattern
3. 01:32:841 (1,2) - Maybe this would be a nice idea to place the circle on the reverse and to swap the sliderend with the sliderhead? Surely that would easen the transition from the previous note and the flow between another ones would be smoother as well! Isn't that will make the polarity on (2) more harder? actually I prefer this kind of rhythmical which can cover the vocal and have easier polarity to follow
4. 01:43:074 (3,4,5,6) - So in Betreyal difficulty I suggested a circle 01:43:190 - here but I guess it would be a bit too complex in Hard difficulty like this, wouldn't it? Yes I think that will be too much for this diff xD I actually been nerf'd the long stream here 01:27:492 (2) - by using 1/4 reverse and use simple triplet to cover more easier stream to cover the drum sound

Normal

1. How about AR5.2-5.5? Fixed, I use 4.7 instead, if I use 5 or above somewhat the ar will too fast

That's a really great and adorable mapset and I can't wait to see it ranked. Good job Mako, wendao and Alarido, good luck guys! :3 Thanks!

How about a purring cat for you? ~(.=o3o=). I love cat btw

Krfawy wrote:

Betrayal

1. How about AR8.7-8.8? the song is kinda slow and I think AR 8.5 is quite fast enough
2. 00:21:213 (1,2,3) - I know it might be very picky from Krfawy (which is me) but I think the map would play nicer if this part got deleted and a break were pasted instead. It's just because the sounds are quite chaotic here and it's not that rhythmical, so that's why I'm suggesting it even if it's the Insane difficulty. okay, deleted those stupid objects.
3. 00:35:632 (2,3,4,5) - and 01:20:283 (2,3,4,5) - Personally I get confused when I see this slider and then the stacks because firstly my reaction was like "Oh, what a cute, innocent and beautiful 1/2 slider with a nice triple that completes the picute of the marvel!" and then my reality got ruined because I understood that was a 3/4 slider lik the previous one. Maybe it's just me, but it would be less misleading if the pattern was mapped like a regular stream like *THIS* or something similar. Not sure why, but honestly 00:44:120 (6,7,8,1) - that was more obvious than the stack and that was really confusing to me. ;___; k
4. 01:07:725 (1) - I can't help myself thinking the transition between the circle before (01:07:492 (5) - ) and this note and the transition between the very slow slider and the following note (01:08:655 (1) - ) would be improved if the slider was a bit curved like *THIS* actually I used white combocolour here on purpose, but okay.
5. 01:43:074 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - If you listen carefully with 25% speed, you'll be able to hear there is a specific sound on 01:43:190 - that seems to be the percussion, or >at least< the resembling stuff that would be benefitial if mapped I believe. Simply, I advice the mapper map a circle here and makes a nice penta stream. overmap it a bit, let's see if it works or not.

1. Why using a watermark when you have the original picture? You state that you don't allow the use of that picture anyway, and in the case someone steals your image, that watermark is pretty easy to remove :/
2. I don't see any tracks on the artist's soundcloud, so why pointing it out as a source? In the album that you show the artist is written as "MADCOM
   " (all caps) as well as the title "BEGGIN'". Then I couldn't find this specific track on the official website, there are just a couple of videos which come from YouTube. Also, on the official website, the artist is written in all caps too http://puu.sh/rj13D/46f834ff1e.png
   but for some reason they turn lowercase if I select them O_O http://puu.sh/rj1jb/4cd7075bcb.png

1. 00:18:422 (1) - I hope that's enough recovery time for beginners

1. 00:37:027 (1) - This slider is not exactly off-screen, but it's super very close by a bit, you may wanna move it a bit up, just a tiny bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6146181