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tsuka

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Easy]
00:25:716 (2,1) - I believe I mentioned this before, but this kind of overlap is difficult especially for beginning players and thus probably should not be found in an Easy difficulty
00:39:064 (1,2) - this kind of stacking is also fairly difficult for beginners. I would suggest that you try and find a friend who doesn't play osu! to playtest your Easy maps for you. If you spectate them, the places where they miss a lot will be the places you probably want to change.
01:29:911 (1,2) - this is another sort of stack that probably would be difficult for beginners
02:00:419 (1,2) - ^

ALLFIXED

[Normal+]
looked good

[Hard]
looked good, maybe a bit loud on the hitvolume but meh

[Insane]
00:16:182 (1) - I'm fairly certain that I mentioned this before as well and I figure its fair warning to tell you that I can't in good conscience bubble a map that has a note 1/2 after a spinner in any difficulty because its not something I would rank. I hope you understand.


i'll expalin about these issus below on the buttom------------------------



00:31:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The fact that this part goes silent but maintains the same sv feels a bit odd to me, I kind of expected it to slow down.

it's with custom hitsounds and rhythm , no problem there

00:52:157 (3) - it might improve the flow of your map if you move this so that it follows naturally out of 2
the Distance and rhythm is going good , i don't know whats wrong with here

02:07:538 (1) - again, while I am pretty sure I mentioned this before, I still can't really bubble your map while it's there.
moved previous 1/4 beats

02:41:352 (1) - ^
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02:57:369 (2) - this stack plays weirdly because the way you have it set up puts the stacking off by one. I discussed this with some other BAT as well and we've come to the conclusion that you should either move the stack entirely or move it a bit farther down and to the right, although having a 1/6 stream when the note before it ends on a 1/4 is also awkward to play (not my words)

Imoved them stack on previous note

03:00:928 (1) - same spinner issue
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[Expert]
01:05:250 (1) - once more, I am sure I've mentioned this but I cannot bubble your map while this kind of thing is in here. I will not mention any more instances of it but you should assume that I will find the same issue with them.
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01:25:843 (3,4) - Again, I have discussed this with the other BAT and we have agreed that this is not rankable and should be changed.
moved it far away from previous one

02:28:259 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - this is very difficult to read. Again, I am not the only person to think this.
This at the bare minimum needs to be changed before your map can achieve ranked status.
FIXED


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the all notes after spinner has sense and good fits the rhythm
im mapping for 3 years never heard about that unrank issus
also player who test it without any problem
really don't undertand why you persist in it

I have ask some bat about that issus

NatsumeRin
Just to state my opinion about after-spinner note here: As long as it makes sense, it's always fine. None of the Ranking Rules is agianst it.

And in this map it makes sense.

Edit: what's more... the BPM is only 118, do you mean that in a BPM 200 song, 1/1 note after spinner is not allowed? That would be ridiculous.
Megurine Luka

Heatherfield wrote:

好累 感觉自己不会再爱了
Yuukari-Banteki
After some consideration, I've decided that for the most part the notes directly after spinners are allowable because the spinners are long enough to kind of compensate for it. However: 02:59:911 (1) - in Insane and 01:04:106 (1) - in Expert are too short to reasonably expect the players to be able to stop spinning early to hit the next note. I think this is an ok compromise. Thank you very much.
Gabi
Please stop forcing silly mods like that just because you aren't capable of passing it.

Most players will spin at 300 rpm, i tried at 270 and it was completely fine for me.

EDIT: The space between the spinner and the next note is a whole 1/1
Mystica

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

After some consideration, I've decided that for the most part the notes directly after spinners are allowable because the spinners are long enough to kind of compensate for it. However: 02:59:911 (1) - in Insane and 01:04:106 (1) - in Expert are too short to reasonably expect the players to be able to stop spinning early to hit the next note. I think this is an ok compromise. Thank you very much.
Actually I find my friend to test yeh.he is not pro but he also gets easy to get 300 for that part
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/CCwV
Megurine Luka
趁此机会射上两发。

hehe
wmfchris

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

After some consideration, I've decided that for the most part the notes directly after spinners are allowable because the spinners are long enough to kind of compensate for it. However: 02:59:911 (1) - in Insane and 01:04:106 (1) - in Expert are too short to reasonably expect the players to be able to stop spinning early to hit the next note. I think this is an ok compromise. Thank you very much.
I'm not spinning very fast (340 rpm in that spinner) but I'm still able to get a 300 on both spinner and coming note and the issue that the note is too close after spinner isn't really an issue for me.

In fact, the least rankable bonus for spinner has been decreasing because more experts are spinner faster and react quicker after the spinner, and if modders can't testplay it well it's always suggested to ask some experts to play and ask their opinions. (Easier diffs are for newbies to play and extreme diffs are for experts.)
Yuukari-Banteki

wmfchris wrote:

I'm not spinning very fast (340 rpm in that spinner) but I'm still able to get a 300 on both spinner and coming note and the issue that the note is too close after spinner isn't really an issue for me.

In fact, the least rankable bonus for spinner has been decreasing because more experts are spinner faster and react quicker after the spinner, and if modders can't testplay it well it's always suggested to ask some experts to play and ask their opinions. (Easier diffs are for newbies to play and extreme diffs are for experts.)
If you want your name on the map, you can go ahead and bubble it yourself.
Snowy Dream
Q.Q ?
What happened?
yeahyeahyeahhh

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

After some consideration, I've decided that for the most part the notes directly after spinners are allowable because the spinners are long enough to kind of compensate for it. However: 02:59:911 (1) - in Insane and 01:04:106 (1) - in Expert are too short to reasonably expect the players to be able to stop spinning early to hit the next note. I think this is an ok compromise. Thank you very much.
lol
Natteke

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

After some consideration, I've decided that for the most part the notes directly after spinners are allowable because the spinners are long enough to kind of compensate for it. However: 02:59:911 (1) - in Insane and 01:04:106 (1) - in Expert are too short to reasonably expect the players to be able to stop spinning early to hit the next note. I think this is an ok compromise. Thank you very much.
Go away.
NatsumeRin
Auto must achieve at least 1000 bonus points on spinners and the object following the spinner must not be visible before the spinner starts. Any less than this and players will not be able to react in enough time to fully complete the spinner (and thus getting a 100 or breaking their combo).

Just state the current rule here.

The 2 spinners you mentioned got 2000 bonus by auto.
Scorpiour
what can i say....

star the map~
wmfchris
最好把誰做圖都列出來吧...
還有比較大的問題是淚包好像做的最多 這樣不合規矩...

[Expert]
00:23:301 (5,6,7,1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/353194
02:05:250 (4,6) - 真心不太好看 明明(4)可以把(6)圍得很好
02:12:623 (3) - 將最尾的slider向右移 令(4)的形狀更清晰
02:20:631 (6) - 嗯...右一格
03:06:267 (4,5) - 預料不到的大跳 orz

[Insane]
02:57:369 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - unstack?這個是1/4間隔有點難預計

[Hard]
02:57:242 (4,5,6,1) - 明顯和歌聲不同步 用1/4 note 搭後面1/3 slider吧
有沒有想過mute掉一些slidertick 比如02:59:784 (6) - 中間之類的~

[Normal]
02:56:352 (7,1) - (7)延長1/4 (1)放後1/4?

[Easy]
00:33:852 (1) - New combo after spinner
一點也不Easy 好多3/4拍 .___. 不過也沒辦法

這首好難map <___< 不懂的欣賞 .______.
Topic Starter
tsuka

wmfchris wrote:

最好把誰做圖都列出來吧...
還有比較大的問題是淚包好像做的最多 這樣不合規矩...

没什么问题

[Expert]
00:23:301 (5,6,7,1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/353194 fixed
02:05:250 (4,6) - 真心不太好看 明明(4)可以把(6)圍得很好 我觉得还行
02:12:623 (3) - 將最尾的slider向右移 令(4)的形狀更清晰
我觉得一般都能看出来
02:20:631 (6) - 嗯...右一格 无所谓了
03:06:267 (4,5) - 預料不到的大跳 orz 拉近

[Insane]
02:57:369 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - unstack?這個是1/4間隔有點難預計
节奏明显没什么大问题

[Hard]
02:57:242 (4,5,6,1) - 明顯和歌聲不同步 用1/4 note 搭後面1/3 slider吧 fixed
有沒有想過mute掉一些slidertick 比如02:59:784 (6) - 中間之類的~
太麻烦而且也无关紧要不是什么轻音乐

[Normal]
02:56:352 (7,1) - (7)延長1/4 (1)放後1/4?
可以

[Easy]
00:33:852 (1) - New combo after spinner
一點也不Easy 好多3/4拍 .___. 不過也沒辦法



這首好難map <___< 不懂的欣賞 .______.
无所谓啊 没说RANK必须要好图嘛主要是大家的心血得到承认

thx for modding
wmfchris
SPOILER
[expert]
02:21:267 (2,3,4) - 這個有點誤導...

[Hard]
02:57:242 (4) - 還是沒fix好 用1/4 note + 1/6 slider http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/354878 (只參考timeline)

no kd.

I believe the controversial issues are fixed now. rebubbled, and good luck!
Topic Starter
tsuka

wmfchris wrote:

[expert]
02:21:267 (2,3,4) - 這個有點誤導...

[Hard]
02:57:242 (4) - 還是沒fix好 用1/4 note + 1/6 slider http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/354878 (只參考timeline)

no kd.
Done
abalee
[Easy]
02:02:453 (2) - 延长1/4
02:36:903 (1) - 是不是被挑过不要放在后面的白线上...放在红线上更奇怪啦...真的怕挑刺的话放在前面的白线吧...放在后面更好。
03:14:657 (2) - 怎么说...前面全部跟人声,这里只为了一个repeat sldier又不跟了...要不弄成两个slider...

[Normal+]
01:26:733 (2) - 01:34:996 (1) - 02:09:572 (2) - 02:13:513 (3) - 02:25:843 (2) - 02:29:911 (2) - 02:54:318 (2) - 02:59:911 (5) - 03:02:326 (2) - 所有这些如果是要跟着人声的话都要前移1/4,或者是你故意这样放?不过对比起easy这样放又显得很奇怪...
01:31:945 (4) - 想挑又好像不差的样子...
03:19:360 (6) - 前移1/4(最好或者个前面一个一起改成slider)
03:27:369 (5) - 缩短1/4 结束在 03:27:496 - 这个和上一个都是个人觉得比较好...虽然用在这个"normal"上有点增加难度的感觉...
Topic Starter
tsuka

abalee wrote:

[Easy]
02:02:453 (2) - 延长1/4
02:36:903 (1) - 是不是被挑过不要放在后面的白线上...放在红线上更奇怪啦...真的怕挑刺的话放在前面的白线吧...放在后面更好。
03:14:657 (2) - 怎么说...前面全部跟人声,这里只为了一个repeat sldier又不跟了...要不弄成两个slider...

[Normal+]
01:26:733 (2) - 01:34:996 (1) - 02:09:572 (2) - 02:13:513 (3) - 02:25:843 (2) - 02:29:911 (2) - 02:54:318 (2) - 02:59:911 (5) - 03:02:326 (2) - 所有这些如果是要跟着人声的话都要前移1/4,或者是你故意这样放?不过对比起easy这样放又显得很奇怪...
01:31:945 (4) - 想挑又好像不差的样子...
03:19:360 (6) - 前移1/4(最好或者个前面一个一起改成slider)
03:27:369 (5) - 缩短1/4 结束在 03:27:496 - 这个和上一个都是个人觉得比较好...虽然用在这个"normal"上有点增加难度的感觉...
fixed
abalee
唔...[Normal+]应该是漏了一两个上次指出的点...
01:22:792 (5) - 前移 1/4
02:33:852 (2) - 前移 1/4并且延长 1/4
03:00:928 (5) - 这个后移 1/4再缩短1/4如何?

Easy有地方不改的话最好单独提出来,我都不知道是漏了还是故意不改的...

对了别给kd了 orz
Topic Starter
tsuka
我估计是当时觉得问题不是很大就没注意,然后忘记指出来了 sorry
这次all fixed
abalee
不能算小改...这个比较好点 = =

edit:怪了沒更新過怎麼破了...
Topic Starter
tsuka
sigh
SamiPale
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Breeze
[Easy]

  1. 02:36:903 (1) - 02:36:775开始是不是更好?
[Normal]

  1. Normal就好了, normal+什么的很容易被吐槽
  2. 02:36:521 (8,1) - 这里8加个回转, 然后spinner02:37:284红线开始感觉更好
[hard]

  1. 00:36:648 (4) - 这种1/4拍的不建议stack, 按正常spacing或者更小一点的spacing放在slider尾部会更好判断, 因为这图里还有很多1/2的stack, 1/2和1/4都是stack比较考验及时判断, 所以建议是1/2的stack, 1/4的放出来, 后面还有一些这类的我就不多说了, 看你喜好改不改 (1/4拍的两个note重叠没问题, 读圈很好读出来, slider尾没有圈所有比较难读)
  2. 00:58:894 (6) - NC, 这个combo略长
  3. 02:59:784 (10) - 这里slidertick听起来略吵, 考虑下消去slidertick的声音
都只是建议, 想改就改
有回复后再找我吧
Topic Starter
tsuka

Breeze wrote:

[Easy]

  1. 02:36:903 (1) - 02:36:775开始是不是更好?
fixed
[Normal]

  1. Normal就好了, normal+什么的很容易被吐槽
  2. 02:36:521 (8,1) - 这里8加个回转, 然后spinner02:37:284红线开始感觉更好
fixed

[hard]

  1. 00:36:648 (4) - 这种1/4拍的不建议stack, 按正常spacing或者更小一点的spacing放在slider尾部会更好判断, 因为这图里还有很多1/2的stack, 1/2和1/4都是stack比较考验及时判断, 所以建议是1/2的stack, 1/4的放出来, 后面还有一些这类的我就不多说了, 看你喜好改不改 (1/4拍的两个note重叠没问题, 读圈很好读出来, slider尾没有圈所有比较难读)工程量略大 就改了你指出来这个……其他的放过去算了= =
  2. 00:58:894 (6) - NC, 这个combo略长
  3. 02:59:784 (10) - 这里slidertick听起来略吵, 考虑下消去slidertick的声音
fixed

都只是建议, 想改就改
有回复后再找我吧
> < thx a lot
Breeze
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tsuka
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