14:02 Another Lie: test test, are you there?
14:03 Reba: hello
14:03 Reba: i'm here
14:03 Another Lie: oh
14:03 Another Lie: well, i'm going to directly asking
14:03 Reba: what is it?
14:03 Another Lie: 00:43:229 - why didn't you map it?
14:03 Another Lie: you can add 1 note at least, [for pitch]
14:03 Reba: oh are you modding?
14:03 *Another Lie is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038482 Shoujo - Reminiscing [Memories]]
14:04 Another Lie: well, i was going to ask you on web. But, since you're reply this chat. So i'm going here :D
14:05 Reba: i see
14:05 Reba: it's true there are sounds in that timing
14:05 Reba: but i wanted to keep it silent
14:05 Another Lie: :O
14:05 Another Lie: are you prefer to make it easy to play?
14:06 Another Lie: well, there are many sounds from 00:43:229 - to 00:44:001 - 
14:07 Another Lie: is it okay for you to IRC mod with me?
14:07 Reba: i think making it like an ending in 00:42:972 (42972|1) - is better and ignore the sound in there because
14:08 Reba: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6833384
14:08 Reba: personally keep on typing notes after that doesn't suit to play personally
14:08 Reba: yupyup
14:08 Reba: i was helping a friend translate something
14:08 Reba: srry for the late responce
14:08 Reba: xD
14:08 Another Lie: no problem
14:09 Another Lie: well, this is better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6833384 . But it is your own choice to keep or change :D
14:09 *Another Lie continue mod
14:09 Reba: hmm i will ask other players too about this
14:09 Reba: but i'll keep for now
14:09 Reba: but you have a point since another modder also pointed this out
14:09 Another Lie: from here 00:46:486 - to 00:46:744 - has a sound
14:10 Another Lie: why not map it too?
14:10 Reba: i only focused the single notes in bass and kick
14:10 Reba: bass = 1 note
14:10 Reba: kick = 2 notes
14:11 Reba: and to add a note for that sound is too weak for me
14:11 Another Lie: oh damn, i pointed wrong thing. I mean this 00:46:401 - to 00:46:486 - has 1/8 sound
14:12 Reba: xD
14:12 Another Lie: I figured about your style. bass = 1 note, kick = 2 note
14:12 Another Lie: so i pointed 1/8 suddenly
14:12 Reba: i think with the same reason i didn't map in that part
14:12 Reba: yeah :3
14:13 Reba: the 1/8 could be considered
14:13 Reba: but it's too short and too sudden
14:13 Reba: to actually map that part
14:13 Reba: 00:51:972 (51972|3) -
14:13 Reba: in this part i did map it 1/8 because it's considerable and long
14:13 Reba: to actually place the 1/8
14:13 Another Lie: i see
14:14 Another Lie: Maybe if you want some challenge, you can add 1/8 in there (i mention it earlier)
14:14 Another Lie: :D
14:14 *Another Lie continue
14:14 Another Lie: 01:26:172 - missing 1 note?
14:14 Reba: i'll consider it
14:15 Reba: yes
14:15 Reba: it's true that it should have 1 more note
14:15 Another Lie: that is jack, isn't it?
14:15 Another Lie: :D
14:16 Reba: yeah it would make it a jack note and i don't really want that xD
14:16 Reba: so don't know what to do
14:16 Another Lie: haha :D
14:16 Reba: because it all 12 34
14:16 Reba: it's too long
14:16 *Another Lie continue
14:16 *Another Lie going to check the SV
14:17 Reba: okie :D
14:17 Another Lie: 01:50:086 - why x0.30?
14:17 Another Lie: why not use x0.20?
14:18 Another Lie: x2.00 divided by 10 = x0.20, then multiple it by 5 = x1.00
14:18 Reba: hmm let me check
14:19 *Another Lie pretty strict about SV & usually use multiple & divide than plus minus.
14:19 Reba: i checked both and i think 0.20 is better
14:19 Reba: fixed
14:19 Another Lie: :D
14:20 Reba: is there like an equation to decide what numbers to use for SVs?
14:20 Reba: or did u just make it up xD
14:21 Another Lie: nah, i just think about multiple & divide
14:21 Another Lie: maybe similiar to Evening's
14:21 Reba: i see
14:22 Another Lie: 02:36:629 - why not x0.50? to make it back to x1.00, you should plus it to x0.50 again
14:22 Another Lie: if you're going x0.75, then you should multiple & divide again. But, if you're going make it back to x1.00. What will you do?
14:23 Another Lie: I used that reason from Agka's thread about SV timing :D
14:24 Reba: hmm
14:24 Reba: let me check that ingame
14:24 Another Lie: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/435018 for more info :D
14:25 Reba: i tested and i think you're right
14:25 Reba: with 0.5 it's better
14:25 Reba: lmao
14:25 Another Lie: oh also this https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/155780
14:25 Another Lie: first link is other person's thread (copy from Agka)
14:26 Another Lie: Second is original :D
14:26 *Another Lie continue mod
14:26 Reba: fixed
14:26 Another Lie: is it fixed? all x0.75 things?
14:26 Reba: yes
14:26 Reba: all 0.75 -> 0.5
14:26 Another Lie: k
14:27 Another Lie: 02:47:515 - you sure this is right?
14:27 Another Lie: x0.10 to x1.50 
14:27 Another Lie: then x1.00
14:27 Another Lie: maybe x0.10 to x1.10 is correct thing
14:28 Reba: u mean i should 0.1 -> 1.1 -> 1.0?
14:28 Another Lie: maybe (if you keep, not a problem to me :D )
14:28 Another Lie: 0.10 - 1.10 = -1.0 then you change place to left. Ta-da 1.0
14:28 Reba: just saw ingame and keeping 1.5 is better xD
14:29 Reba: putting it in 1.1 makes the space too small
14:29 *Another Lie continue
14:29 Reba: less readable
14:29 Reba: owo
14:29 Another Lie: wow LN section :D
14:29 Reba: xD
14:30 Another Lie: 03:19:058 (199058|2,199058|3,199144|3,199144|2,199229|3,199229|2,199315|3,199315|2,199401|2,199401|3) - speedcore 300 haha [joke not mod]
14:30 Another Lie: :D
14:31 Another Lie: 03:41:172 - is this already fixed? the x0.30
14:31 Reba: i made it like that because i think 12 34 12 34 1234 is more difficult to actually play
14:31 Reba: yup fixed
14:31 Another Lie: 12 34 12 34 are boring -_- [just opinion]
14:32 *Another Lie continue
14:32 Reba: okie
14:33 Another Lie: 04:02:686 (242686|1,242729|0,242772|3,242815|2,242858|0,242901|1) - about this, maybe you can make it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6833467
14:33 Another Lie: following your own pattern below
14:33 Another Lie: 04:02:086 (242086|3,242129|2,242172|1,242215|0,242258|3,242301|2,242344|0,242386|1,242429|2,242472|3) - 
14:34 Reba: i see
14:34 Reba: fixed
14:34 Reba: nice catch
14:35 Another Lie: 04:13:572 (253572|0,253572|3,253572|2,253915|0,253915|2,253915|3) - why not use 4 notes?
14:35 Another Lie: following your note below
14:35 Another Lie: 04:12:886 (252886|3,252886|2,252886|0,252886|1,253144|1,253144|3,253144|2,253144|0,253401|1,253401|3,253401|2,253401|0) - 
14:35 Reba: for this one - 04:13:572 (253572|0) - it doesn't have the vocal sound as others
14:36 Reba: and i should be putting 4 notes in 04:13:915 (253915|0) -  because this has vocal sound
14:36 Another Lie: ok
14:36 *Another Lie continue
14:36 Reba: but it didn't look good for me
14:36 Another Lie: oh i forgot i think -_-
14:36 Reba: xD
14:36 Another Lie: did you read the rules before requesting?
14:37 Another Lie: About this one. "6th rules"
14:37 Another Lie: I will accept below 3 minutes length, even 03:01, i will not accept it
14:38 Reba: oh wait
14:38 Reba: why did i not read that
14:38 Reba: lol
14:38 Another Lie: aha, no problem
14:38 Another Lie: What is already done, cannot be undone
14:38 Reba: you can stop modding xDDD
14:38 Another Lie: no
14:38 Reba: lolol
14:38 Another Lie: 04:19:744 - here, why not use x0.10?
14:38 Another Lie: to make it consistent
14:39 Another Lie: like you did before :D
14:40 Reba: i only put 0.1 sv in parts that are silent
14:40 Reba: and putting 0.5 makes the 1 LN in column 4 more readable in terms of playability
14:40 Reba: :3
14:40 Another Lie: :O i see
14:40 Another Lie: for this one 05:14:901 - to 05:15:115 - 
14:40 Another Lie: there is a low sound
14:41 Another Lie: at 1/8 yellow line
14:41 Another Lie: to red line
14:41 Another Lie: maybe LN :D
14:41 Reba: oh
14:41 Reba: why did i not hear that
14:41 Reba: wtf
14:41 Reba: fixed
14:41 Another Lie: wtf :D
14:41 *Another Lie done modding
14:41 Reba: thanks a lot :D
14:41 *Another Lie already modding 2 maps that lenght above 4 minutes -_-

15:09 Reba: hey zzhboy
15:09 ZZHBOY: 123
15:09 *ZZHBOY is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038482 Shoujo - Reminiscing [Memories]]
15:09 Reba: let's go
15:09 ZZHBOY: i remember you did a same song but 7k map before lol
15:09 Reba: yes xD
15:09 Reba: but this one marathon
15:09 Reba: and with SVs
15:10 Reba: :3
15:10 ZZHBOY: let me check general issue first
15:10 Reba: sure
15:10 Reba: it's perfect for me
15:11 ZZHBOY: yea, all files look fine
15:11 Reba: nice
15:12 ZZHBOY: how about to turn the hp a little down?
15:12 ZZHBOY: 8.6 seems a little hard
15:12 ZZHBOY: ?
15:13 Reba: hmm
15:13 Reba: to how much
15:13 ZZHBOY: 8.2-8.4?
15:14 Reba: sure
15:14 Reba: od too?
15:14 ZZHBOY: depend on u
15:15 Reba: changed HP to 8.4 and od stay as 8.2
15:15 ZZHBOY: ok
15:15 ZZHBOY: 00:06:372 (6372|0) - Wrong length, should be until 00:06:296 - and make another LN in 00:06:544 (6544|2) - and then move 00:06:629 (6629|0) - to column 4?
15:16 ZZHBOY: 00:07:915 - 00:06:886 (6886|0) - they are similar sounds, but one is ln and another is a note, how about to make them be consistent, both ln or both note?
15:17 Reba: do you mean until 00:06:544 (6544|2) - ?
15:17 ZZHBOY: x.x
15:17 ZZHBOY: 00:06:372 (6372|0) - this ln should be longer
15:18 Reba: in that part i only made LNs in the external sounds not vocal xD
15:18 Reba: okie
15:18 Reba: made that LN longer
15:18 Reba: but kept the short notes
15:18 ZZHBOY: 00:07:915 - and i mean how about to use ln here
15:19 ZZHBOY: 00:08:772 (8772|0) - this ln is unnecessary imo
15:19 ZZHBOY: use a common note is fine
15:19 Reba: you're right
15:19 Reba: changed to short note
15:21 ZZHBOY: 00:20:686 (20686|2,20944|1) - ctrl+h maybe make here easier to play?
15:23 Reba: hmm it's right that it's more comfortable but hitting the same column is more fun for me
15:23 Reba: so i'll keep
15:23 ZZHBOY: ok
15:23 Reba: =w=
15:23 ZZHBOY: 00:21:972 (21972|3) - how about remove this?
15:24 Reba: the point that the vocal sound gets clear starts from that part
15:25 Reba: and i mapped it like that in my 7K too
15:25 Reba: so i think i'm gonna have to keep that
15:26 ZZHBOY: ok
15:29 ZZHBOY: 00:55:915 (55915|3) - i think these sounds can be empty?
15:29 ZZHBOY: so how about to remove this?
15:30 Reba: the sound is pretty minor compared to the bass sounds used as 1 note
15:30 ZZHBOY: 01:03:286 (63286|2,63286|3,63286|0,63372|2,63372|3,63372|0) - this is a little hard, i think 2notes is enough
15:31 Reba: but i think that the hihat sounds can still be considered to be mapped
15:31 ZZHBOY: yea just keep those hat
15:31 Reba: hmm okay deleted
15:32 Reba: changed like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6970636
15:32 ZZHBOY: k
15:33 ZZHBOY: 01:20:344 (80344|2,80429|0) - here plays worse x.x
15:33 ZZHBOY: change this?
15:33 ZZHBOY: 01:20:772 (80772|3,81029|1,81115|3,81286|2) - same
15:34 Reba: hmm it doesn't really affect me ingame and it's quite fun pattern
15:34 Reba: but if you give me a reasonable pattern that could be changed
15:34 Reba: i'll change
15:35 ZZHBOY: `emm
15:35 Reba: the shield was intended 'w'
15:35 ZZHBOY: vocal isn't clear here
15:36 Reba: hmm for me it's pretty clear just like these01:19:572 (79572|3,79744|2,79915|1) -
15:36 Reba: i can clearly hear oriwa nagito
15:36 Reba: 01:20:086 (80086|0,80344|2,80601|1) -
15:36 Reba: oriwa
15:36 Reba: 01:20:772 (80772|3,81029|1,81286|2) -
15:36 Reba: nagito
15:37 ZZHBOY: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6970656
15:37 ZZHBOY: x.x
15:37 ZZHBOY: seems more confusing
15:38 Reba: xD
15:38 Reba: i'll ask other BNs when they check
15:39 Reba: i'll consider this
15:39 Reba: but for now save
15:42 ZZHBOY: 01:36:886 - x.x
15:43 ZZHBOY: i think those ln a little overdone
15:43 ZZHBOY: how do you think about that?
15:43 Reba: hmm
15:43 Reba: i personally think it's pretty fun but this 01:37:572 (97572|3) -  makes it a bit of a problem
15:44 ZZHBOY: yea
15:44 ZZHBOY: also those two sounds are not same
15:44 ZZHBOY: no reason to jack
15:44 Reba: i agree
15:44 ZZHBOY: so i think it's better to set common pattern
15:45 ZZHBOY: 01:44:258 - to 01:44:772 - add some notes?
15:45 ZZHBOY: 01:49:915 (109915|2,109915|0,109915|3) - how about to use 3/4 beat ln here?
15:46 Reba: changed like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6970680
15:46 ZZHBOY: ok
15:46 Reba: hmm
15:46 Reba: how should i put them in 01:44:258 (104258|3) -
15:46 ZZHBOY: 01:50:258 (110258|3) - also here can use a 1/2 beat ln instead
15:46 Reba: i put it easy because putting the right amount of notes makes it hard
15:46 Reba: but i agree with you
15:46 ZZHBOY: k
15:47 Reba: 01:49:915 (109915|2) - i can
15:47 Reba: i can't because of SV
15:47 Reba: okay 1:50:258 changed column 4 to LN
15:48 ZZHBOY: k
15:48 ZZHBOY: 02:31:401 - y single note?
15:49 Reba: that part has a sound that deserves some double notes, but it i make the crash part 2 notes and use 1 for snare, it doesn't fit the sr of the map
15:51 ZZHBOY: i still think better to add a note lol
15:51 ZZHBOY: 02:42:029 - and here i think can add some 1/4 rhythm?
15:52 Reba: whoops
15:52 Reba: mistake
15:52 ZZHBOY: 02:54:715 - here also can use ln like what u did before
15:53 ZZHBOY:  03:00:201 (180201|0,182944|0) - they are unnecessary in one column imo
15:53 Reba: sure
15:54 ZZHBOY: `03:29:001 - hwo about http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6970717
15:54 Reba: hmm i made it like that because it has same sounds
15:54 Reba: okie changed like that
15:55 ZZHBOY: and they are some melody
15:55 ZZHBOY: emm
15:56 ZZHBOY: 03:41:001 (221001|2) - change to ln?
15:57 Reba: same reason as before, Sv there
15:59 ZZHBOY: 04:26:601 - i'm not sure if this part is fine
15:59 ZZHBOY: 04:27:201 - 04:28:572 - 
15:59 ZZHBOY: maybe don't have some clear sounds
16:01 ZZHBOY: 05:08:258 (308258|3,308429|2) - move to same column?
16:01 Reba: it's very small but i can hear it
16:02 Reba: okie
16:02 Reba: moved the one in col 4 to 3
16:02 ZZHBOY: that's all
16:02 ZZHBOY: call me when you fixed them
16:03 Reba: okay
16:03 Reba: updated :)
16:04 ZZHBOY: seems fine
16:04 Reba: nice
16:04 ZZHBOY: anything other want to change?
16:04 Reba: hmm nope
16:04 Reba: i'm sure
16:04 Reba: :D
16:04 ZZHBOY: lol