Great map rank it now, no need to fnish it
thanks!!Krfawy wrote:
Hello Doktoratu Spiele, I'm doing M4HKFTROYL with you. You know how I love you! o3o
I am pointing most important stuff I observed in the whole set and that I believe could be improved. Also, I am including a pack with my replays so you can see how a typical 64K ranked noob with a broken mouse plays your mappus.
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GeneralEasy
- This applies to the whole set: 00:15:070 - There are two timing lines: one is red and the other is green and the SV is still 1.00x.
- 02:05:444 - As above.
Normal
- TBH the spacing is quite hardcore and no idea why but it's extremely hardcore for me to play the kiais, these are real killers. I believe a Beginner difficulty would be welcome. D: reduced spacing to counteract SV increase, i think that works better
- 00:22:085 (3) - Not 100% sure but I guess it would have a soft addition and a whistle? nope, the whistle pattern in this section is different, it's way more apparent in higher diffs though
- 00:43:179 (3) - The very head has no Normal sampleset and I think it's not done on a purpose. it served a purpose on higher diffs /shrug but yeah not having it here is unintended
- 00:57:241 (4,1,2,3) - This moment looks quite cancerous even if it's easy to play due to its (pattern's) messy look. I recommend you copy the 00:56:304 (3) - this slider, rotate it a bit (-191°), CTRL + H it and paste it instead of 00:57:241 (4) - this slider but use the same XY axis numbers. After that you could adjust the rest of the resembling objects so everything looks like *THIS* maybe? With AR4 set I am sure that will be easier and smoother to read. D: did something similar to this
- 00:59:116 (3) - And I think that circles in the slider would be hitsounded with normal kicks too so it would create an impressive effect in comparison with the very next note. yeah
- 01:01:929 (1) - And adding a normal-hitnormal on the very head would be benefitial here as well. yeah
- 01:09:429 (1,2) - Oh mein Gott... Das ist eine imperfekt Blanket! ;3; i tried
- 01:31:460 - I have a feeling a soft clap sound would be nice here. but the clap pattern stops here imo
- 02:03:814 (1,2) - Aehm... Honestly I think that shortening the slider to this moment: 02:04:751 - and adding two circles would be more obvious to click for newbies as the doubles are used for rather experienced players. Triples are more perceptible, at least it has always been, is and probably will be for me as the rhythm is simpler in such a case. Also this is the only excessively unpleasant moment to play so far and in you know that we should make stuff as easy-going and still rhythmically-wise at the same time as possible and this definitely is the case. If you disagree, at least try to gather a few other noobs and ask them what they think about the actual pattern and if it needs some readjustments. ;_; i didn't even read all the paragraph but i fixed it anyways already so lol
- 02:16:929 (1) - That spinner is awkward. I strongly recommend you make it last from 02:13:179 - to 02:18:804 - did something to the spinners in all diffs
- 02:31:929 (3) - And this head would have a normal kick as well. ya
- 02:42:253 (5) - As above.ya
- 02:47:878 (2) - As above.ya
- 02:53:972 (4,5) - I am sure these should have claps and that 02:57:253 (4) - this would sound better with a normal kick. uh i forgot a few but on higher diffs the current setup sounds better as the whistlespam kinda makes up for it so i'll only add that to easy and normal
- 03:02:878 (2) - And a normal kick would be nice here too. ya
OMG, that was a really delightful mapset Oko!
- 00:45:171 (1,2,3,4) - That was pretty cancerous to play tbh. ;_; this plays pretty smoothly idk
KEEP MAKING GOOD MAPPUS OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO SPEND A NIGHT TOGETHER IN YOUR BEDROOM actually we are, no matter what! o3o
LVU Blady Kamyczek o3o
Yuii- wrote:
claiming my kudos #1
please disable countdown disabled countdown
call me back will do
remember to call me back will remember to
03:05:691 - easy diff vs normal diff - abc hm i have it this way because in easy 03:05:222 - is a circle and in normal it is a sliderend. the way i have it would lead to 5 circles in a row which isn't the most interesting thing either, which is why i decided to rhythm these differently
easy
01:00:076 (1) - Object's end is not snapped! 01:01:482 oh right i forgot to custom snap that
02:15:054 (1) - i'd add a hitsound if you ask me yes
like... this difficulty is good, man nice
normal
00:38:491 (4,5) - not sure if i mentioned this already, but i don't see any reason for these to be both clickable, i'd stick to the slider. 02:27:241 (4,5) - yes, too dad. there's 2 distinct sounds in the melody and i had a bunch of sliders in both points already so i think that adds more variety and is actually fitting
00:41:069 (3,1) - would've preferred if these would be above (2) instead of below it. flow seems p weird for a normal diff... although it isn't too much, maybe a suggestion for future mapping? it's on equal hight now
00:44:116 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - (this still sounds pretty bad if you ask me, even with all the hitsounding) did circles instead of sliders i think that's more intuitive
00:52:319 (3,1) - these should be stacked for consistency with everything else ye
01:30:054 (1) - i already mentioned this, and you did fix it slightly, yet i still think the way this slider is being mapped is quite weird, what about something more simple? http://i.imgur.com/0dcuveo.jpg the angle you suggest would make it worse )
02:15:054 (1) - hitsound yada yada yeah
advaced
00:23:491 (3,4) - only 1/2 stacked pattern at the beginning of the map doesn't seem right (((. what if, what if, what if you go with a 1/2 slider instead!! no, did different things to it
02:15:054 (1) - spinner should end at 02:19:741 - because there is a more prominent beat there (also the hitosund hehehehehh) yes
call me back will do
hard
objects are not snapped! i love aimod fixed
00:30:054 (1) - the thingy on advanced is harder btw i can't split these up or else everything will be weird
00:45:171 - volume is too loud, daddy i don't think it's too loud i just think this is overhitsounded and removed a bunch of drum whistles
00:51:616 - i believe this rhythm is way too dense compared to everything else in this section, what if you remove 00:52:436 (6) - to make it more simple!? !! done
01:18:335 (5,1,2) - aesthetically speaking, this pattern is ugh ugh this happens to be one of my favourite patterns in the map lol
01:46:929 (1,2) - this is eprsonal, but i think it's worth mentioning. i really don't think this rhythm should be similar to previous ones because it slightly is different. i was thinking about extending (1) to 01:47:280 - and then moving (2) to 01:47:397 - as a 1/2 slider. that would make 01:47:397 - clickable and also follow the weird instrument thingy better did that
02:15:054 (1) - ha ha HA! with this ar i need the spinner ending later
03:04:753 (4,1) - (besides this being an imperfect blanket) vs 02:49:753 (4,1) - these are fundamentally different idk what you want me to do so i fixed the blanket
insane
idk too much snapped thingies amazing how many notes are snapped
00:30:054 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - correct me if i'm wrong, but i do see this as a weird flow. players will most likely expect a movement towards the right-side of the screen instead of a back-and-forth with the quad. with the current note palcement i can only thing of http://i.imgur.com/k6LUE2s.jpg as an alternative to what you have right now, movement would be more flow-y. maybe you can find something else all the movements are acute which flows nicely to me but i did something similar to yours in a way i would do it lol
00:45:171 - vol no, different
01:29:116 (5,6) - the most important beat here is being used as the second note of a triplet, that doesn't seem right what about 2 1/4 sldiers instead for more empahsissss? i think the wob sound there is more important and makes for a more interesting rhythm just before the transition in the context of this diff
01:49:155 - 01:49:624 - etc. was expecting notes there, seems too simplified compared to the rest of the diff i really like the way these feel dragged out, it fits the sounds so well
02:15:054 (1) - no more same reasoning as hard
02:37:566 - so you wanted to dt the difficulty? you thought it was easy? ha ha ha, jokes on you!!!!!!! idk, the last kiai seems like a huge diff spike with those spaced streams, not sure what you think about them, but it looks like the ultimate way of throwing people off otherwise spread to expert with all the gimmicks it uses is just off because apart from these the kiai is overall WAY easier so i needed an element to balance that out, hence these streams
ultra
no snapped objects were found wow!1 yeah i didn't copy hitsounding over to here
00:15:538 (3,4) - if you do this kind of pattern in which repetition is presented but then you place 00:16:007 (5,6) - in a completely different way that the original structure, it will look messy they're starting the same thing the previous two did over, but don't get to finish what they were doing because contrary to expectations 00:16:476 (1) - is largely different
00:33:335 (7) - if you tried to go for a gimmick here, i would suggest to make it more visible, looks quite ugly currently like 02:22:085 (7) - . see? that's a good one!! did
01:01:707 (2,1) - you don't really hav eto do any kind of movement here. not sure if you intended it, but if you still want to go for some emphasis, i would suggest you to ctrl+g (1) the amount you move depends on if you follow sliderbodies through so saying that isn't quite correct, that being said, the excessive stacking here is to get the players attention to focus on this pattern and that the next part will be something different
01:36:264 (4,5) - spacing might be too much nerved slightly
02:15:054 (1) - . same reasoning
02:42:253 - this is no good, okotaru! consider replacing it for circle+1/4 slider because it'll cover that better. same for 02:47:878 - and the rest these are done for the variety in this section, basically if i fix these the kiai will be the most boring way to map this part of the song so i periodically throw the melody bits into the focus over everything else to keep the players attention, i think ~fixing~ these would be a waste since they serve a distinct purpose
please disable countdown did that
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disable countdown did that
Yuii- wrote:
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since i have nothing to point out in this difficulty, take a very minor un-ds pattern: 00:17:866 (3,4) - done
also 02:18:686 - i would still decrease the volume done for this and all diffs that end spinners on whistles
aaand (i really don't want to mention this, oko please, forgive me) 01:35:679 (1,2) - 01:43:179 (1,2) - these are the only symmetricals in the whole section, while everything else is mapped with different slidershapes. i know this is like "why are you mentioning this", so sorry! these are just there because it's a better looking way to go from one part to the other
normal
01:22:085 (3,1) - In grammar, parallelism, also known as parallel structure or parallel construction, is a balance within one or more sentences of similar phrases or clauses that have the same grammatical structure.[1] The application of parallelism improves writing style and readability, and is thought to make sentences easier to process.[2]
Parallelism is often achieved using antithesis, anaphora, asyndeton, climax, epistrophe, and symploce.[3]
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01:24:429 (1,2) - this is a very interesting jump. they probably can read it, but i'd like to have your "yes" confirmation that is intended because it is still leagues better than mapping myself into a corner and then jsut staying there, i reduced this jump but generally no one should really struggle on it lol
02:15:054 (1) - vol
advanced
00:06:733 (3,4) - i'd separate them a bit more cause they look like the very first pattern . problem comes whren you have the hp bar right ther ei9f yopu move (4) a couple of pixels, so... yeah, idk, i like the current way anyway B) separated a bit... ? i think lol
01:01:473 (1,2,1) - not a really big fan of this pattern due to how objects stack this way, they both pop up in the screen at the same time which makes it even ahrder for newer players avoided stacking
(also the spinner's volume heheh)
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00:02:983 (4,5) - wew, too much spacing reduced...?
00:27:710 (1) - would be nice if you would place it inbetween 00:26:772 (2,3) - for aesthetics!! wtf happened here
00:46:577 (10,11,12,1) - quads are this difficulty are very, very hard... they are even hard for insane/extras difficulties because players are so used to 2 doubles or one single triplet that they can't read it, would suggest something else if possible. not to mention these are the only in the diff this is the only part where really strong drums do something really stupid and not clicking the most intense thing in it is kinda dumb too and so is doing a double, doing all repeat sliders for these would be ultraboring so i think this is the best tradeoff here
01:51:968 (5) - 01:55:718 (5) - 01:59:468 (5) - this is something minor i noticed on this difficulty but would be nice if you could apply it to everyone. these whistles are barely audible, what about normal-hitwhistle instead? i think they would be way more remarkable (btw i forgot to point out a few, but you get the idea!) did 90% on these on diffs that only map them sporadically (intermediate, hard) since normal whistles sound like garbage
insane
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ultra
00:42:827 (10,11,12) - why are these spaced? like yes, they are consistent with 02:31:577 (10,11,12) - but it really doesn't make too much sense to me the same thing as 00:35:210 (7,8,9,10) - have more noticably in the background is in the background in here so instead of doing the same stacking they get spaced out for these
02:03:569 (8,2) - ignore this, just a reminder to mention the repeat is visible i know yes
03:08:034 (3,4,5,6) - these overlap fixed
03:08:972 (7,8,9,10) - would move these a biiiit more to the bottom for a better transition it's not supposed to transition anywhere in facht it's the last rather harsh cutoff in the map where all other instruments stop and that's represented in the pattern
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~ thanks!Sonnyc wrote:
Easy.
01:00:076 - This feels super inaudible. still wondering how that happened
02:48:816 (3,4) - Inconsistent spacing due to the sv transition. You'll want to make the real spacings consistent since this is a single note. this seems like the only thing i forgot lol looking at the other svs this is a simple mistake, good catch
Normal.
00:09:429 (1,2) - Not really sure if using a different 1/2 spacing concept with 00:01:929 (1,2) - 00:03:804 (1,2) created a structure here. this part has a SV buildup, i'm not really using different spacings the sliders later are just slightly faster and just lowering spacing for that doesn't seem that logical to me
00:45:171 (1,2,3) - Um considering the intermediate was dealing these with a slider... I feel using a circle on these abnormal rhythms wasn't a balanced setting to show in this difficulty. i had sliders there first but opted for circles because they're 1. way easier 2. way more varied than sliderspam so they're overall more interesting
02:31:929 (1,2,1) - I don't think a sudden jump at (2,1) is musically supported nor forming a good technique. took care of that... i think
02:37:800 (2,3) - What's with the inconsistent spacing? no idea, i don't take the consistent spacing thing too seriously in lower diffs anyways so stuff like that is bound to happen randomly xd
Intermediate.
00:02:983 (3) - Seeming from how you've made placmenets at 00:04:507 (2,3,4) - 00:06:382 (2,3,4) , I don't think this spacing inconsistency is ever intended.
00:10:132 (2,3,4) - 00:13:882 (2,3,4) - ^ while i don't think any of these affect anything of notability i think i got rid of these
00:15:070 (1,2,3) - Mind making the heads in a consistent spacing to make it more stable? them being uneven is actually the point here, i did slight sv changes in expert at that point and slight spacing changes at that point in this diff because i think it's a buildup
00:22:085 (5,1) - mm Though these objects were close each other, I couldn't feel some relationship each other. Even if it wasn't intended, but still in points of technical skills. Mind making this something like http://puu.sh/txDqu/352c5e3a59.jpg for a balanced visual? the only relatinoship that kinda matters to me is that the slider that starts the next measure is going in opposite direction but whatever i tried to fix this
00:26:772 (2) - Offscreen object. oops
Insane.
02:44:128 (5,6) - Can this be a little bit distant for consistency with other 1/4 spacings? it is now a little bit more distant similar to 02:41:316 (1,2) -
Expert.
00:53:725 (8,9) - Why is this manual stacked? idk lol
Solid mapset. Popping over unrankables. Poke me when fixes are made!
*Krfawy touches Oko and his mapYuii- wrote:
no toucherino, its mine!!
I tried making it easier by including pictures of a piano, hope that helpsOkorin wrote:
oh god im gonna be so stuck in trying to decipher what you mean if you walltext me
I edited that before you posted your second post!!Okorin's edit wrote:
thanks for editing and making this post useless
how did this post twice oh wellBonsai wrote:
I haven't looked at the other diffs but if you want more rhythmic advise (Doofnuss-kun praised my rhythm-choices in the first GMC, those were good times ) please hit me up, these few rhythm-issues ruined an otherwise really nice for me so I'd be happy to give more suggestions xd
- Now for some points applying to these the seciton at 00:31:929 and mostly also to 02:20:679 -
- The transition from the first two 4/4-combos to the offbeat-rhythms that you emphasize in the following two combos could be much smoother with just a really small change: Using this rhythm at the third combo. Please try it, the current one feels really unnatural and forced bc it is such a harsh change that goes from continuing the pure 4/4-rhythm to pure offbeat in just one object, 00:36:616 (3) -, but the change in the music doesn't feels that sudden to me at all since those offbeats have existed the whole time but they are continuously getting more noticable (and the original 4/4-rhythm continues to exist), and by mapping 00:35:679 (1,2) differently you would indicate that there is something different beginning to happen but it still feels like the original rhythm. but the difference is that the quads here are way more pronounced.....???
- The transition back to the 4/4-rhythm at 00:39:429 feels super underwhelming because the downbeat, which has a very special beat/sound on it, isn't emphasized at all, may I suggest replacing 00:39:194 (11,12) with a slider? the difference here is that you have to play a quad in order to reach it so just highlighting it via spacing is kinda meh as an idea imo
- The introduction of 00:43:296 (1) is pretty much the most uncomfortable thing I have ever played since it suddenly emphasizes the same rhythmic phrase
360°180° differently idk how this is uncomfortable hence i dunno how to address it or make it less uncomfortable for that matter, i don't even have a clue what your issue with it is- 00:45:405 (3,6,9) - Why are those mapped as sliders, you put an extremely significant gap at 00:45:054 which is a really cool thing but you make it seem random by mapping it again immediately afterwards.. Just mapping them as circles and leaving those gaps would compliment this really well and also possibly emphasize 00:46:929 (1) more this is simply changing the ticks i follow as clickable by using a long enough timeline gap...??
- 01:37:554 (1,4) - Improper stack, DQ please, and don't you dare responding with "no thanks" :^)
dexwin9 wrote:
how i can play a song for example of hastsune miku?