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Sakura
Either way i had the same thought that it had hit a BP vest due to that hence my "Well that went nowhere" post, but then Tsukasa's reaction doesn't make sense as if he really thought she was about to die.
fartownik
It could've easily been a fake reaction. He never really claimed his alignment, did he? Wouldn't he be more convincing by just straight shouting "I was Town you idiots" all the way?

I don't find his reaction particularly convincing.
Sakura
Basically my thinking is this:

Tsukasa's reaction to me saying "it's probably a day vig" was Tsukasa yelling at ms1 and being disgusted and offensive, this felt genuine hence Tsukasa really thought she was going to die, ergo Tsukasa's not Bulletproof unless Tsukasa's a very good actor.

Tsukasa not dying means then that the day vig was fake.

Regardless Tsukasa's reaction to dying was scummy, so my vote is there.
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

It could've easily been a fake reaction. He never really claimed his alignment, did he? Wouldn't he be more convincing by just straight shouting "I was Town you idiots" all the way?

I don't find his reaction particularly convincing.
Technically anything can be fake, but that depends on the skill of the player, not on the possibility of it's existance.
fartownik
Tsukasa not dying could mean he was a BP, jeez. It's obvious he's gonna lie about him being a BP when a Vig was in the game because it's a counter-role for Mafia.

The only thing that says he's not a BP to me is that metal sonic said it was a fake vig. metal sonic, if you are TRULY not Vig, please confirm it once again, confirm that you were not lying about it. It's gonna be easier for all of us.
Ace Timing
I don't think that was a scum reaction?
fartownik
So Sakura also says it wasn't a fake reaction. But was it a Town reaction?
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

So Sakura also says it wasn't a fake reaction. But was it a Town reaction?
Don't you mean Ace? i already said it was a scummy reaction.
Ace Timing

fartownik wrote:

So Sakura also says it wasn't a fake reaction. But was it a Town reaction?
it was a "I don't even give a shit anymore" reaction, which I've seen and done as town.
fartownik
Tsukasa is not a new player and he could easily fake that reaction. If I were scum, I wouldn't just straight go and yell that "YES, I WAS MAFIA" when the kill was not even confirmed. I would suspect the kill could be fake. Bleh, even as Town I would suspect the kill could be fake.
Frostings
Gaster Blaster :) :)
Tsukasa reaction is null at best, like who would fall for "Gaster Blaster" honestly.

I'd like to vote NH now thank you :oops:
KILL THE SHEEP
fartownik

Frostings wrote:

Gaster Blaster :) :)
Tsukasa reaction is null at best, like who would fall for "Gaster Blaster" honestly.

I'd like to vote NH now thank you :oops:
KILL THE SHEEP

Wiki wrote:

Additionally, Sans uses a weapon during his fight in the Genocide Route called a "Gaster Blaster," possibly indicating that the weapon was developed by Gaster.
fartownik
While I'm waiting for metal sonic and Jess, I may well change my vote back to what I originally wanted for the entire day.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Frostings
holy those game spoilers
MBomb
I'm fine with voting Tsukasa because of his reactions, just waiting for a vc because my counting sucks.
Zexion
I'm back. Give me some minutes to read.
MBomb
Although it's pretty annoying I keep having to do this because I'm always asleep when the vcs come.
Zexion
MS's vig has to be fake, it's very unlikely to be a BP from Tsukasa mainly because flavor and the fact that (game spoiler) something like that happens exactly that way in the game . This is me speculating but I said it anyways. Holy fuck why did Jess "validate" that shot?!

I'm fine with an hypotetical AT or MB lynch. Tsukasa reaction to the vig shot was frustrated, which is kinda common for both town and scum, I wouldn't warrant a lynch over that... but still, the way the insults came it sounded more like frustrated scum. Sakura knowing that the shot was fake it's... just wierd. I was pretty sure Jess gave MS a fake role until he admitted... (Also this is like the third time in a row someone uses a fake vig)

Vote: Magic Bomb
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

MS's vig has to be fake, it's very unlikely to be a BP from Tsukasa mainly because flavor and the fact that (game spoiler) something like that happens exactly that way in the game . This is me speculating but I said it anyways. Holy fuck why did Jess "validate" that shot?!

I'm fine with an hypotetical AT or MB lynch. Tsukasa reaction to the vig shot was frustrated, which is kinda common for both town and scum, I wouldn't warrant a lynch over that... but still, the way the insults came it sounded more like frustrated scum. Sakura knowing that the shot was fake it's... just wierd. I was pretty sure Jess gave MS a fake role until he admitted... (Also this is like the third time in a row someone uses a fake vig)

Vote: Magic Bomb
wat

I'm fine with you voting me but literally none of your post was about me apart from that first sentence it looks so weird lmao
Tsukasa
I was supposed to be posting something relevant but after what I read?

Nah

Ya'll made me lost motivation
Tsukasa
I mean...

Ever notice what crazy tunneling and unreasonable bullshit ms1 is pulling already?

To a point that "Looking at the thread while not posting is scum"

??????

Like... IDK man what are the real reasons ?????????
fartownik

Tsukasa wrote:

Ya'll made me lost motivation
Yeah, because you're the one leading Town in this game and no one listens to you mate! /not

If I had that attitude I'd left this game a long time ago.
fartownik
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you. You're ready to give up a game because someone suspects you? Instead of whining, turn it around and prove you're worth trusting. Shit like this happens every single game, you haven't done much to be read as Town if you ask me.
fartownik
At least I like that second post of yours.
fartownik
We should've finalized this day long time ago, if you ask me. I don't know if people are lazy or is it really so hard to get a compromise?

Lynching MB would be optimal today, I'm still getting scum vibes from him. Like, I vote him and he completely ignores that, once again, like he doesn't want to piss me off or something. He never questioned it. Even better, I was/am his biggest townread.

If you still don't think it's a good idea and don't want to sheep me on this one, I'm also fine with Ace or Aomi.
metal sonic1
It's a fake vig. And it's a scum reaction. Kill it.
metal sonic1
Beeboy where are you? I summon your vote
fartownik

metal sonic1 wrote:

It's a fake vig. And it's a scum reaction. Kill it.
What makes you say it?
metal sonic1

metal sonic1 wrote:

yeah. but notice how tsukasa gave nothing of value even during the threat of death despite multiple opportunities? clearly the view is that this is a lost cause.

and i interpret that to be a frustration with a likely weak scumteam
if you were town and you were under the impression that you were going to die, would you continue to remain useless and ad hom your way to victory?

simply put, putting yourself in tsukasa's shoes, would you think that is a reasonable reaction?
fartownik

metal sonic1 wrote:

metal sonic1 wrote:

yeah. but notice how tsukasa gave nothing of value even during the threat of death despite multiple opportunities? clearly the view is that this is a lost cause.

and i interpret that to be a frustration with a likely weak scumteam
if you were town and you were under the impression that you were going to die, would you continue to remain useless and ad hom your way to victory?

simply put, putting yourself in tsukasa's shoes, would you think that is a reasonable reaction?
Well, I had the same exact feeling as you did. I'm just really not sure. I feel like the first two posts of his after the shot are scum, then 17 minutes later he actually gets an idea that the kill could've been fake and he's trying to 'repair it' by saying who to lynch next. That's what I get from it, but I wouldn't base a lynch on that solely.

hey tsukass are you mafia? xd
Ace Timing

metal sonic1 wrote:

metal sonic1 wrote:

yeah. but notice how tsukasa gave nothing of value even during the threat of death despite multiple opportunities? clearly the view is that this is a lost cause.

and i interpret that to be a frustration with a likely weak scumteam
if you were town and you were under the impression that you were going to die, would you continue to remain useless and ad hom your way to victory?

simply put, putting yourself in tsukasa's shoes, would you think that is a reasonable reaction?
idk if it was over some dumbass shit, I'd drop some salt and be audi.
MBomb

fartownik wrote:

Lynching MB would be optimal today, I'm still getting scum vibes from him. Like, I vote him and he completely ignores that, once again, like he doesn't want to piss me off or something. He never questioned it. Even better, I was/am his biggest townread.
No point in arguing with town when I could be looking for scum.
Ace Timing
“Everything you were looking for was right there with you all along.”


― The Wizard of Oz
Sakura
So we still have 3 dead slots and lynching scum is like pulling teeth.
Normal osu! mafia.
NoHitter
@Frostings: So you're voting me for sheeping? And you think that it warrants more of a vote than the other things which have happened?

Also can you guys make up your minds :< ?
MB, AT, or Tsukasa
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

@Frostings: So you're voting me for sheeping? And you think that it warrants more of a vote than the other things which have happened?

Also can you guys make up your minds :< ?
MB, AT, or Tsukasa
Maybe all 3 of them are scum!! (prolly not)
Sakura
How about you tell me who you think is scum?
NoHitter
Actually Sakura, you're contradicting yourself.
MB, AT, and Tsukasa are all people you have voted for with genuine suspicion.
I've been sheeping you this entire time, and it feels weird for you to swap wagons so easily like that. *shrugs*

I guess for now I'm going to keep my vote on Tsukasa for that reaction of his.

First of all Tsukasa
NoHitter
EBWOP: Scratch that last part
Sakura
Yes but i doubt scum!AT tries to lynch scum!MB if scum!MB is attempting to survive via a fake claim.
Topic Starter
-[Jess]-
*Something is messed up
*I do it wrong
Vote count 1.9
  • [3] Tsukasa - metal sonic1,NoHitter,Sakura
    [3]- Magic Bomb - -, Ace Timing,fartownik,Zexion
    [1] Sakura - - Magic Bomb -
    [1] Aomi - seaboy321
    [1] Frostings - Aomi
    [1]NoHitter - Frostings
    [1] Ace Timing - ,beeboy123
    ------------
  1. Not Voting - Tsukasa
With 12 alive,7 to lynch
Deadline in 10:02 AM, 9 August 2016 (GMT+8)
*still finding replacement for beeboy123,seaboy321 and Aomi
*Mod note:I will not do vote count in tmr because i have a vacation
*Note me if any mistake.
fartownik
OK fuck this

Vote: Tsukasa

what the fucking ever, VOTE TSUKASA NOW, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK ANYMORE

we have to lynch someone
fartownik
pls vote
Zexion
Well I kinda expected this for 12 players. Fine, no point in keeping an uninterested player.

Vote: Tsukasa
Ace Timing
lkjslkandsamdlksamda
fartownik
Ace, MB vote Tsukasa, NOW.

I feel like we've lost this game already but whatever. I'm not going to be here D2 most likely so I can only hope my reads were right.
fartownik
If I wake up and there's still no lynch here I'm going to kill someone
fartownik
Seriously this is the most boring game of my life
NoHitter
Wait seriously? For osu!mafia, this is a pretty active game already. You've definitely played in less active games lol.
MBomb
Yep.

Vote: Tsukasa

I think I've decided who I'm scanning, not 100% but yeah.
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

Wait seriously? For osu!mafia, this is a pretty active game already. You've definitely played in less active games lol.
It's active, but only because of 3 or 4 people. Also activity is not everything, people seem to be not interested in this game at all. I feel like if I didn't poke this thread from time to time there would be no posts here for 2 days.
Frostings
wow no idea what the rush was we still had two days
Sakura
That's L-1 tho
Sakura
Also 2 days is very little time
fartownik

Frostings wrote:

wow no idea what the rush was we still had two days
1. it's not much time
2. im only rushing because absolutely nothing is moving in this game, and if we dont get a compromise we wont have a lynch because there's 3 dead slots this game, means we HAVE to get a compromise, and we have to get it asap
fartownik
also the fact that you have no idea what the rush was is scummy
fartownik
also I'm voting Tsukasa because of compromise only, I still think scumteam is MB, Aomi and Frostings, but I really hope not.
fartownik
Saying this because I will be dead tomorrow and I don't know when the hammer happens
metal sonic1
no you wont be dead
Ace Timing
#protest
#FreeTsukasa
fartownik
shut up and vote him you scum
fartownik
post by post you're convincing me even more than you're scum indeed
Sakura
I told you, but you didnt want to believe me, he doesnt want to bus because he knows we wont get the votes needed anyway.
Sakura
We should just vote him instead since beeboy's dead vote is there.
Ace Timing

Sakura wrote:

I told you, but you didnt want to believe me, he doesnt want to bus because he knows we wont get the votes needed anyway.
:/

Pretty sure I would've gone for the bus on tsukasa over the cop lynch on MB.
fartownik
Can you all stop being so silly

there's NO CHANGING LYNCH ANYMORE

we have 1 DAY

1 REAL DAY

to get a lynch

and look how much time it takes to get a lynch on someone who most agree on (Tsukasa)

changing target would be fucking insanely stupid, we'd never achieve that in 24 hours




And I think Ace is scum not because he doesn't want to lynch Tsukasa himself, but because he doesn't understand why I want his lynch. He's pretending to be 'the last opposing force' of Tsukasa's lynch while IT'S A POLICY LYNCH, do you know what a POLICY LYNCH is? If Tsukasa flips Town, Ace is scum.

If we had the freedom of choice we should've gone for MB 5 days ago as a policy lynch as well, but absolutely no one wanted to listen to me. Now it's too late for ANYTHING. That's why you lynch Tsukasa or gtfo.
Ace Timing
We have two real days and I think Tsukasa is town ∴ I'm not going to support lynching her.
fartownik
Deadline is 02:00 GMT+0 9 August 2016 which is in exactly 29 hours

it's not two real days

Also it doesn't matter who you're supporting or not supporting now. You should've thought about it 6/5/4/3/2/1 days ago when there was still time instead of posting irrelevant shit, scum.

And I know that YOU KNOW Tsukasa is Town, you're only worsening your situation right now.
fartownik
I'd rather lynch you over Tsukasa tbh but if I do that we may as well vote no lynch because we will never get majority onto another player in 29 hours
fartownik
And that's what I'm talking about.

Also, would you rather no lynch or lynch Tsukasa?
Ace Timing

fartownik wrote:

And that's what I'm talking about.

Also, would you rather no lynch or lynch Tsukasa?
obviously lynch tsukasa but we're not going to no lynch today, you don't need my vote to lynch tsukasa, she's L-1, and someone will support your policy lynch tomorrow.

So I'm not voting.
fartownik
Unvote

I'm going to unvote while you're answering my question.
fartownik
Okay, that answer is scum.

Vote: Ace Timing
Ace Timing

fartownik wrote:

I'd rather lynch you over Tsukasa tbh but if I do that we may as well vote no lynch because we will never get majority onto another player in 29 hours
you're not exactly the most consistent fellow.
fartownik
I'm going to switch my vote back to Tsukasa whenever it reaches L-1 again, which means I'm going to hammer.

The only votes remaining right now are you (and you're not voting Tsukasa for reasons), Frostings and Zexion. One of those two has to vote Tsukasa now.

If, somehow, people start switching votes onto you, in a quick manner, I'm not going to switch my vote and you're going to be lynched.

I hope that happens.
Ace Timing
Not supporting your policy lynch doesn't make me scum. I've done this tens of times before as town, and I don't have to comply to your policy lynch just because you think it needs to happen.

What you think I'm trying to do isn't scummy at all. Making a last stand or whatever you think I'm doing isn't going to net me any town points at all and isn't in my best interests as scum. Now for the last time I'm not going to vote Tsukasa because I think she's town, and I'm not going to vote my townread, even for your policy lynch. Just as you may think that you can swing this wagon around onto me, I think it's possible that votes may swing back onto someone I scum read, in which case I will vote.
fartownik
You said you'd rather have a Tsukasa lynch than a no lynch, technically there should be nothing stopping you, yet something clearly is. And there's pretty much no other way around anymore, unless Jess decides to make the day longer or something.

Tsukasa isn't my heaviest scrumread but that's what it was decided, period. When we have 3 dead slots someone has to decide on a person to lynch and I decided it would be most efficient to lynch Tsukasa because he already had more votes than MB and it's easier to just switch my own vote to him than trying to convince everyone ONCE AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH NO ONE LISTENS TO WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT HIM / WANT TO DISCUSS to switch the vote to MB.

Everyone was free to put up a discussion regarding our lynchee, trying to cooperate with each other but no one did that besides me, which again makes me wonder if anyone cares about this game at all. And now suddenly you wake up, in the last 20-some hours until the lynch to finally cast your doubt! Absolutely disgusting.
Ace Timing
I said I thought she was town for awhile now.
fartownik
I shouldn't be even explaining this to anyone.

You have not tried to push anything at all, despite knowing the situation we are in (3 dead slots, other inactive players). You have not tried to cooperate with anyone to get a policy lynch, you have not tried to CARRY this game, because right now it desperately needs carrying, and if you're Town, please fucking do that.
Ace Timing
and also I am 99% we will lynch someone today. If I were scum I would have fucking hammered to end the day. Like I swear to god every game on this site people flip the fuck out over the most meaningless things and overlook a natural course of action and opt for some weird convoluted thought process they've invented in their head. I'VE PLAYED WITH DEAD SLOTS BEFORE. I'm not a bloody fucking idiot and I can VERY OBVIOUSLY SEE that tsukasa will be lynched or I will. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF A LYNCH NOT HAPPENING. Why the FUCK you think that can happen is evidently way over my head. This has got to be the 3RD GAME where I didn't join a lynch because I thought my vote wasn't needed to make it happen AND ITS THE THIRD TIME PEOPLE SCUM READ ME FOR IT. I'm fucking done with keeping my cool and trying to be understanding of how fucking idiotic you all can be.

fartownik wrote:

I shouldn't be even explaining this to anyone.

You have not tried to push anything at all, despite knowing the situation we are in (3 dead slots, other inactive players). You have not tried to cooperate with anyone to get a policy lynch, you have not tried to CARRY this game, because right now it desperately needs carrying, and if you're Town, please fucking do that.
THIS GAME DOES NOT NEED CARRYING DAY FUCKING ONE. I'm first of all not the type of town to ever carry a game, I did it once as scum and never did it again because it's time consuming and stupid. If you want to be carried look to sakura but not FUCKING ME. I don't need to do shit to you to prove I'm town. You've played with me as town before, when the FUCK have I ever carried before? Why do you think that I would break meta and suddenly start pushing people and cooperating and brokering deals to get lynches made JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THE GAME IS DEAD.

This is the stupidest fucking D1 I've probably ever had. At this point I'm just not voting Tsukasa to make a fucking point.

Take a minute, think objectively, and realize what a fucking idiot you've been.
Ace Timing
Fuck this shit, you might start voting me I don't give a shit; I'm going to come back either D2 or in dead thread and hope you've all stopped being fucking morons.
fartownik

Ace Timing wrote:

and also I am 99% we will lynch someone today. If I were scum I would have fucking hammered to end the day. Like I swear to god every game on this site people flip the fuck out over the most meaningless things and overlook a natural course of action and opt for some weird convoluted thought process they've invented in their head. I'VE PLAYED WITH DEAD SLOTS BEFORE. I'm not a bloody fucking idiot and I can VERY OBVIOUSLY SEE that tsukasa will be lynched or I will. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF A LYNCH NOT HAPPENING. Why the FUCK you think that can happen is evidently way over my head. This has got to be the 3RD GAME where I didn't join a lynch because I thought my vote wasn't needed to make it happen AND ITS THE THIRD TIME PEOPLE SCUM READ ME FOR IT. I'm fucking done with keeping my cool and trying to be understanding of how fucking idiotic you all can be.

fartownik wrote:

I shouldn't be even explaining this to anyone.

You have not tried to push anything at all, despite knowing the situation we are in (3 dead slots, other inactive players). You have not tried to cooperate with anyone to get a policy lynch, you have not tried to CARRY this game, because right now it desperately needs carrying, and if you're Town, please fucking do that.
THIS GAME DOES NOT NEED CARRYING DAY FUCKING ONE. I'm first of all not the type of town to ever carry a game, I did it once as scum and never did it again because it's time consuming and stupid. If you want to be carried look to sakura but not FUCKING ME. I don't need to do shit to you to prove I'm town. You've played with me as town before, when the FUCK have I ever carried before? Why do you think that I would break meta and suddenly start pushing people and cooperating and brokering deals to get lynches made JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THE GAME IS DEAD.

This is the stupidest fucking D1 I've probably ever had. At this point I'm just not voting Tsukasa to make a fucking point.

Take a minute, think objectively, and realize what a fucking idiot you've been.
nice
fartownik
Vote: Tsukasa
Sakura
Yeah Ace is town, can we please hammer Tsukasa now (Also Zexion's already voting Tsukasa farto)
Sakura

Zexion wrote:

Well I kinda expected this for 12 players. Fine, no point in keeping an uninterested player.

Vote: Tsukasa
^
See here
Sakura
Since AT doesnt want to vote tsukasa whether we achieve a lynch on this day phase is entirely dependant on Frosty.
Frostings
Is Tsukasa even active?
I'd like him to claim please
Frostings
well.. claiming will probably not change anything with the little time we have, but I'd still like it to happen
And for Tsukasa to give him his updated read list
fartownik
yes he will surely
metal sonic1
I told you so

Now let tsukasa flip scum so I can repeat that again
fartownik
yes
Tsukasa
Yeah I was active

Actively ignoring this game
Tsukasa

Frostings wrote:

Is Tsukasa even active?
I'd like him to claim please
Also read as "Let him claim but lets lynch him anyways"
Tsukasa
Nothing really changed that much

Nothing really changed at all
Tsukasa
Literally 4 people conversing

The others are just fillers and observers
Tsukasa
Vote: Ace
Topic Starter
-[Jess]-
*mod note:my PC crush and I can't do vote count at today.
*sorry
Frostings
intent to hammer
fartownik

Tsukasa wrote:

Yeah I was active

Actively ignoring this game
You're the cause of your own death.
fartownik
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