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Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer
Seeing the names written down doesn't give you an idea of what the skin actually looks like, and clicking on each skin just to see what it's like is tedious and ineffective. Instead, something like this would be more ideal (sorry for the bad edit):

You get the idea, don'tcha?

EDIT: Or even just don't show the name of the skins at all in the select screen, and only show the name and author when it's selected or hovered
Bara-
This is nice, but I think the preview above it might be enough, since it will require a lot of space if this gets implemented. Your screenshot only has place for 8 skins, while it currently has much more (50?, I really have no idea)
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

Bara- wrote:

This is nice, but I think the preview above it might be enough, since it will require a lot of space if this gets implemented. Your screenshot only has place for 8 skins, while it currently has much more (50?, I really have no idea)
Ever heard of this thing called the scroll wheel? Besides, scrolling up and down takes significantly less effort than scrolling to the skin pulldown menu, cilcking on the skin name, looking at it, and then repeating it for every skin you have.

EDIT: Also, the beatmap selection screen already deals with the scroll problem in the form of right click scrolling.
Reha
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Bara-
We already have a preview screen on the right of the options as well
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

Bara- wrote:

We already have a preview screen on the right of the options as well
Oh really? Then let me ask you, which is the easier way to find screenshots, this:

or this?
deadbeat
imo, dedicated skin galleries aren't really all that needed as you either
a - already know what the skin looks like
or
b- you haven't used it before and need to test it out.

having a gallery like this might give you an idea as to what each skin would look like, but is only really relevant for skins you haven't yet used. in which case, the gallery doesn't help much as you would still need to actually use the skin to get a good grasp on how good it is
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

imo, dedicated skin galleries aren't really all that needed as you either
a - already know what the skin looks like
or
b- you haven't used it before and need to test it out.

having a gallery like this might give you an idea as to what each skin would look like, but is only really relevant for skins you haven't yet used. in which case, the gallery doesn't help much as you would still need to actually use the skin to get a good grasp on how good it is
Yeah right, because everybody can INSTANTLY memorize the name (I repeat, name) of every skin out of like 30.

Dedicated skin galleries inside the osu! game client is convenient when:
a - you used a skin before and remember what it looks like but forgot the name,
b - you have multiple generations of skins (e.g. NeOsu) and haven't memorized what each generation looks like
c - you just want to be able to look at your skins before you use it, like clothes in a wardrobe before you wear them
d - you want to pick a skin by its looks, not its title
deadbeat
you're talking to the guy with 280 skins
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

you're talking to the guy with 280 skins
Then you should know what I'm saying. And that not everyone takes an hour off from each day to memorize every skin they have.
deadbeat
not really no. i've had no issues learning what's in skins i enjoy using
furikuri
To be honest here I agree with deadbeat.
Then again the only time I don't remember a skin name is when I got it a long time ago and didn't enjoy it.
Pawsu
There is already a slight preview in the options.

Besides, isn't it fun to look through skins and not knowing what to expect?
I don't think this is necessary.
Noffy
This sounds like a splendid idea for those with poor memory like me. I often end up going to my skins sub folder to be able to look at skins more quickly than in game where you have to do it one-by-one. Having a skin gallery like the example showed would make it far easier to go through and refind a skin if you can't recall the name of it, or if you have multiple skins with similar names but different appearances.
For example I have 3 skins that are Kagamine rin and len based, and all 3 are titled with their names but in slight variations. Remembering which one is which is incredibly confusing, but their themes are similar enough that there isn't really a more distinguishable way to name them even though all the skins look very different from each other.
The little preview in options does help immensely, but I feel a set up like this would be better.
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

Pawsu wrote:

There is already a slight preview in the options.

Besides, isn't it fun to look through skins and not knowing what to expect?
I don't think this is necessary.
Emphasis on slight. It's inadequate for knowing what to expect when you pick a skin. And you seem to like wasting time picking random skins before you can find the one you're looking for. The rest of us don't.

Noffy wrote:

This sounds like a splendid idea for those with poor memory like me. I often end up going to my skins sub folder to be able to look at skins more quickly than in game where you have to do it one-by-one. Having a skin gallery like the example showed would make it far easier to go through and refind a skin if you can't recall the name of it, or if you have multiple skins with similar names but different appearances.
For example I have 3 skins that are Kagamine rin and len based, and all 3 are titled with their names but in slight variations. Remembering which one is which is incredibly confusing, but their themes are similar enough that there isn't really a more distinguishable way to name them even though all the skins look very different from each other.
The little preview in options does help immensely, but I feel a set up like this would be better.

deadbeat wrote:

not really no. i've had no issues learning what's in skins i enjoy using
It's incredibly condescending of you to assume that everybody else can automatically memorize exactly the looks and name of each of your 200+ skins. Skins are like clothes: you pick one by how it looks, not how it's named.
Pawsu
Don't double or triple post - edit your first and add the quotes and replies in one post next time please.
deadbeat
look, if anything. we should have the old skin selection screen back and improve on that. that's what we need, not this
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

look, if anything. we should have the old skin selection screen back and improve on that. that's what we need, not this
The old skin selection screen may have given you a big preview of the skin, but that's not how thumbnails work. Sure, you may hang on to the current skin selection screen like grandpa still typewrites his letters. But word processors were invented for a reason. Skins are intrinsically visual; that is why my proposition would be the ideal way to search and browse for skins on your client. No more "Let's click on 200 names until I click on the right one" bullshit.
deadbeat
are you really trying to defend static images over live previews?
Lacrimosa
To be honest here, that's actually a nice idea, and it would be convenient and better for the eye to search through your skins. However, I do agree with deadbeat on this.

deadbeat wrote:

imo, dedicated skin galleries aren't really all that needed as you either
a - already know what the skin looks like
or
b- you haven't used it before and need to test it out.
But as a guy who used to have 100+ skins, which I used some of them occasionally, but didn't remember every single one of them, it would be a lot better to have a skin selection menu, similar to this one on the original post. It could replace the already existing skin thumbnail with a small button saying "Change skin" next to the current skin's name. Not saying that it should replace the live preview button as well, though.
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

are you really trying to defend static images over live previews?
Does YouTube show you a static image before you click to see the live preview? Think about that.
Wheyte

deadbeat wrote:

are you really trying to defend static images over live previews?


The problem with the live previews is that it actually takes longer to see all the gameplay elements of the skin than with a static picture. Sure, you can see it being played, but what about when you want to see something like what the sliderball, 100, or 50 looks like and are stuck either listening to the beginning of a song or waiting for that specific element.
deadbeat

JapanYoshiTheGamer wrote:

deadbeat wrote:

are you really trying to defend static images over live previews?
Does YouTube show you a static image before you click to see the live preview? Think about that.
yup, this tells me everything i need to know
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

yup, this tells me everything i need to know
In your lofty sarcasm, you have missed the point that the static image adds a wealth of info about the video that cannot be expressed with just the video's title. Whatever the video's title was, I deduce that the it would not have told you about what those two people, presumably reviewers, look like. (You also seem to have gone on a expedition to find the least helpful static preview possible, but set that aside for now.)

Restating the simile I've restated numerous times, skins are like clothes. You choose them for how they look, not what they're named of. My proposition would turn the storeroom filled with vaguely labelled boxes into a walk-in closet. And in addition,

Noffy wrote:

This sounds like a splendid idea for those with poor memory like me. I often end up going to my skins sub folder to be able to look at skins more quickly than in game where you have to do it one-by-one. Having a skin gallery like the example showed would make it far easier to go through and refind a skin if you can't recall the name of it, or if you have multiple skins with similar names but different appearances.
For example I have 3 skins that are Kagamine Rin and Len based, and all 3 are titled with their names but in slight variations. Remembering which one is which is incredibly confusing, but their themes are similar enough that there isn't really a more distinguishable way to name them even though all the skins look very different from each other.
The little preview in options does help immensely, but I feel a set up like this would be better.

Nikosbks wrote:

[A]s a guy who used to have 100+ skins, which I used some of them occasionally, but didn't remember every single one of them, it would be a lot better to have a skin selection menu, similar to this one on the original post. [...] Not saying that it should replace the live preview button as well, though.

Wheyte wrote:

The problem with the live previews is that it actually takes longer to see all the gameplay elements of the skin than with a static picture. Sure, you can see it being played, but what about when you want to see something like what the sliderball, 100, or 50 looks like and are stuck either listening to the beginning of a song or waiting for that specific element.
Like you said yourself, I'm talking to the guy with 280 skins. If anyone knows the struggle of refinding a skin of which one forgot the name, it has to be you.
deadbeat
which is why i already suggested my counter idea. also i think we're at the point where i doubt we'll see eye to eye on this matter, so i'm gonna ditch out and watch from a distance before we have knifes at each others necks
Topic Starter
JapanYoshiTheGamer

deadbeat wrote:

which is why i already suggested my counter idea. also i think we're at the point where i doubt we'll see eye to eye on this matter, so i'm gonna ditch out and watch from a distance before we have knifes at each others necks
I've already pointed out what's wrong with your counter-idea many, many posts ago, and so has Wheyte, [i]whom I quoted in that last goddamn post.
abraker
A skin gallery would be most useful if browsing through skins to download, but I don't think many players would find this useful enough for local. It can still help in one way or another, but I can go without it too. I don't really change skins as I use my own custom skin 99% of the time, so I won't be seeing the gallery often enough to see this somewhat useful to myself.
mulraf
thought the same thing as abraker. making something like a skin gallery of different skins that have been uploaded which you can download sounds pretty nice to me (even though i only have and will ever use 1 skin - i just like the idea). and i also think the opinions here are a bit negative. what's the damage in adding pictures to the names and i gotta say i like the design of the preview in the first post. you could do a lot with this. static images over live plays? why not both? just have the static images as a kind of preview, click on them -> preview of lifeplay. maybe even if you hover over them they start to give a little preview video of the skin in action? i know this is going a bit far and it'd be a lot of work which could be spent better. just a few thoughts.
myst
As a person who likes to change skins a lot, and has tons of skins I've downloaded and kinda forgotten what they look like, I like this idea, a lot.
Heuy
Yes, this would be a great idea! I support this 100%.
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