toby fox - Bergentruckung/ASGORE · forum

riktoi

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2016-11-07T21:45:00+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:

CrestRising wrote:
#modreqs

UltimaFox's Normal
Not a huge concern, but your difficulty is 0.04 stars above the range for a Normal difficulty, which is 1.50-2.25. o
00:02:355 (1,2,3) You could make this symmetrical to 00:00:232 (1,2,3) since changing the angle between 1, 2, and 3 looks a bit odd. I don't think it looks that bad imo, but mayb
00:27:250 (2,3) The spacing here looks too small compared to the spacing between 00:28:034 (3,4,1). Fixed
00:36:393 (4) What is this long, two-beat slider supposed to be mapping, because it seems really out of place compared to the surrounding section. Yeah, I can't find a way to fix it right now but when I do Ill change it haha
01:05:126 (2,3) and 01:07:216 (2,3,4) and 01:09:305 (2,3) You've mapped the same four beats three completely different times in this part of the map. Imo, it would better to stick with one interpretation of the rhythm, or at the very least change 01:09:305 (2,3) because that repeat on 3 seems especially odd. Fixed (changed the last one)
01:16:619 (1,2) You should probably make these blanket each other like 01:17:664 (3,4) or vice-versa imo I like it how it is right now
01:21:321 (2) You should probably angle it more like 01:20:798 (1) with something like this Fixed
01:40:389 (3) This reverse slider implies that you would be changing rotation, but you continue going counter-clockwise after this slider which makes it feel a bit awkward. You should flip it horizontally so that it looks like its heading towards 4 instead of the opposite direction. Fixed
02:41:251 (3) This slider should also be flipped horizontally so it looks like its heading towards 1. Fixed

thanks~

xd

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updated (also fixed your tags lmoa)

Kujinn

1,382 posts

Joined December 2013

Kujinn 2016-11-30T20:54:26+00:00

from #modreqs

[Determination]
00:14:037 (3,4) - Spacing should be shorter. Your using same as 1/2.
00:22:287 (1) - move to x244 y 90
00:33:519 (2) - ctrl g would make it flow better
00:37:176 (2,3,4,5) - Space out a little, its so clustered.
00:37:960 (1,2) - 1/1 spacing, increase it.
00:39:658 (4) - Kind of an ugly overlap
00:49:192 (5) - ^
01:01:208 (2) - move to x136 y224
01:03:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overmapped in my opinion
01:21:582 (5) - x115 y126.

Good Luck! btw are you still looking for Extra? I'm interested

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2016-11-30T21:31:12+00:00

Kujinn wrote:
from #modreqs

[Determination]
00:14:037 (3,4) - Spacing should be shorter. Your using same as 1/2. dont worry about it, it's fine
00:22:287 (1) - move to x244 y 90 o ok
00:33:519 (2) - ctrl g would make it flow better yes
00:37:176 (2,3,4,5) - Space out a little, its so clustered. ye ok
00:37:960 (1,2) - 1/1 spacing, increase it. good idea
00:39:658 (4) - Kind of an ugly overlap agre, adjusted
00:49:192 (5) - ^ adjusted
01:01:208 (2) - move to x136 y224 o
01:03:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overmapped in my opinion it kinda is, but it's there to keep the intensity same for the section
01:21:582 (5) - x115 y126. adjusted this so ok

Good Luck! btw are you still looking for Extra? I'm interested I'll think about it :^)

thanks

adjusted pretty much all of the overlaps (except for the ones that are 2 stacked 1/2s) to look the same now.
makes the map look a lot beter too

tzechi

375 posts

Joined July 2014

tzechi 2016-12-18T22:45:38+00:00

hello! first mod attempt but i'll do my best!!
________________________________________
mod will be for DETERMINATION difficulty.

before the mod, just a few opinions on it~
pretty ok map!! idk about the many back n forths but its still pretty good!
________________________________________
00:05:541 (3,4,5,6) - just personal opinion, you dont have to change these but maybe these could be sliders since the intensity is still at a really low level?
00:23:071 (6,1) - this flow is awkward to play! i bet it would look better depending on your mapping style but i reccomend you change 6 a bit.
00:40:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - very strange flow here, its definitely playable but i dont know about the pattern overall
00:44:229 (1,2,3,4) - ^, and if you were trying to blanket 2 and 4, make the blanket a little more neater?
00:57:551 (5,6) - once again jsut opinion, you dont have to change it, but your beatmap is moving very fast over this intense part, having a sudden overlay feels weird
01:12:701 (2,3) - having an overlay after the intensity boosted is a bad idea, maybe make this a jump?
01:17:272 (4,5,1) - spacing problems, its not a jump but normal spacing, so make the spacing equal
01:30:986 (6,7,1) - spacing problems
02:10:690 (2) - maybe this slider is a shape from undertale, i dont really know but why is the next note suddenly in the middle?

02:11:343 (4,5) - hard to read + intensity is very low here, may want to do something about this weird spacing
02:15:130 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - no offence, but you should really avoid taking a section of your map and flipping it vertically to continue. i dont mean to be harsh here, but its a sign of low creativity. maybe improve this by adding a new section instead of flipping another one vertically! ^^
02:43:341 (1,1) - the flow between both of them is definitely playable, but very awkward and weird. you could place the short slider in a different location to improve the flow to the next small jumps
02:44:125 (1,1) - the spacing between this slider and the note is very large compared to the small jumps between all of them, even though theres no difference in intensity
02:46:214 (1,1) - same issue as ^
02:52:353 (4,5,1) - extremely awkward to play

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2016-12-22T11:42:57+00:00

Pencil-kun wrote:
hello! first mod attempt but i'll do my best!!
________________________________________
mod will be for DETERMINATION difficulty.

before the mod, just a few opinions on it~
pretty ok map!! idk about the many back n forths but its still pretty good!
________________________________________
00:05:541 (3,4,5,6) - just personal opinion, you dont have to change these but maybe these could be sliders since the intensity is still at a really low level? I guess so yes, but I prefer it like this
00:23:071 (6,1) - this flow is awkward to play! i bet it would look better depending on your mapping style but i reccomend you change 6 a bit. adjusted slightly, flow isn't really a big factor here as the slider is mostly just there to stop you and the spacing being minimal
00:40:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - very strange flow here, its definitely playable but i dont know about the pattern overall I like it tbh. I think it works pretty well to mirror the pattern from the section before as a slightly more intense version.
00:44:229 (1,2,3,4) - ^, and if you were trying to blanket 2 and 4, make the blanket a little more neater? ok
00:57:551 (5,6) - once again jsut opinion, you dont have to change it, but your beatmap is moving very fast over this intense part, having a sudden overlay feels weird I was thinking of a way to make this work the best way and this is how I thought it should be. The forced stop gives more power to the "important" melody here 00:57:812 (1,2,3) -. now that I think of how i structured that part those sliders might not be right..
01:12:701 (2,3) - having an overlay after the intensity boosted is a bad idea, maybe make this a jump? yeah, changed. It wasn't exactly consistent either
01:17:272 (4,5,1) - spacing problems, its not a jump but normal spacing, so make the spacing equal The spacing is a bit problematic here. I wanted to give it a bit more spacing just for a more comfortable snap to 01:17:533 (1) - from 01:17:403 (5) - so that it wouldn't be a straight line. Also separates 01:17:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern nicely which is the effect I wanted
01:30:986 (6,7,1) - spacing problems Adjusted 01:31:116 (7) - spacing
02:10:690 (2) - maybe this slider is a shape from undertale, i dont really know but why is the next note suddenly in the middle? The slider doesn't exactly depict anything but I had to fit something in there so I decided to go with a rather random slidershape. I don't really like it myself lul
Since there's a 1/1 gap I thought of it in a way that the spacing doesn't matter. So to make it as aesthetical as possible I placed the circle at the top middle part of the slider
02:11:343 (4,5) - hard to read + intensity is very low here, may want to do something about this weird spacing Maybe. From what I've seen in testplays people do read it just fine; if however there ends up being a problem I'll change it.
02:15:130 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - no offence, but you should really avoid taking a section of your map and flipping it vertically to continue. i dont mean to be harsh here, but its a sign of low creativity. maybe improve this by adding a new section instead of flipping another one vertically! ^^ This is actually a mild reference to the repetitiveness in Undertale. Even though if it seems lazy (and it probably is) some people might link it to the game which in my opinion is a great thing!
02:43:341 (1,1) - the flow between both of them is definitely playable, but very awkward and weird. you could place the short slider in a different location to improve the flow to the next small jumps I can agree with this. With the slider in place and blanketed I have tried moving it in different ways but can't think of a good way. So, with the way I'm going right now is a 180 degree turn at 02:44:778 (4,1) - which should give enough of a signal for the player to be able to snap to the slider after 02:45:300 (4) - , which was swapped to where (2) was.
02:44:125 (1,1) - the spacing between this slider and the note is very large compared to the small jumps between all of them, even though theres no difference in intensity Adjusted position
02:46:214 (1,1) - same issue as ^ ^
02:52:353 (4,5,1) - extremely awkward to play I think it fits very well considering the 02:52:744 (1) - starts the second measure of the outro, therefore requiring a bit more "power".

sorry for the late reply, i totally forgot you modded this lol
really nice mod for a beginner

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-01-08T14:40:49+00:00

Insane

00:07:665 (3) - reverse the flow for emphasis? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7007138
00:31:168 (3,4) - structure wise it looks a bit poor when objects are so close they're almost touching
00:36:915 (2) - not mapping anything after this takes away the emphasis of the pause at 00:37:960 (1) . Imo it would be better to fill the gap between 00:36:915 (2) and 00:37:960 (1) -
01:03:428 (5,6) - ctrl g this rhythm would play better to the music melody better since that's what youre trying to follow. Same for 01:11:787 (5,6) -
01:07:085 (2,3) - same as 00:31:168 (3,4)
01:08:260 (5,6,7,8,9) - this plays so much different to 01:06:171 (1,2,3,4,5) . Such drastic changes in the way you play the same melody is a bad idea imo. Couldn't you stick to pattern for all these parts and slightly tweak it?
01:45:875 - Add circle? You've done similar things elsewhere in the map
02:10:951 (1) - The tail should be close to (2) not the head
02:13:040 - I think this would play much better as an active beat, how about this? http://puu.sh/tfnsJ/befcb7f9b4.jpg
02:50:655 (1) - These sounds are so strong yet the spacing is so small. This is such a climatic part of the song, can't you increase the spacings a bit?

Normal

00:53:371 (4,1) - The approach circle of (1) comes before (4) finishes so you have to use DS here
00:50:498 (3) - This is a very similar sound to 00:48:408 (3) so I think it's better to make it 3/2 reverse slider as well
00:55:722 (1) - I don't like the rhythm of this section. You haven't mapped to the song at all for the sake of polarity. Like at 00:55:722 (1) The strong sounds are --> http://puu.sh/tfnPJ/8b9b604faa.jpg but you've mapped none existant sounds on white ticks. It's really noticeable when playing and just doesn't feel right at all
02:51:700 (2,3) - Imo it would be better to turn these notes into a slider like 02:53:789 (2). Or at least have the more difficult pattern come later

[]
GL!

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-01-08T22:56:52+00:00

~~giving kds after gders respond, thanks~~

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Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2017-01-09T00:36:34+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Insane
00:07:665 (3) - reverse the flow for emphasis? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7007138 i think its okay
00:31:168 (3,4) - structure wise it looks a bit poor when objects are so close they're almost touching fxd
00:36:915 (2) - not mapping anything after this takes away the emphasis of the pause at 00:37:960 (1) . Imo it would be better to fill the gap between 00:36:915 (2) and 00:37:960 (1) - it sounds okay to me but if more people complain i will put a slider in there (which adds no value imo)
01:03:428 (5,6) - ctrl g this rhythm would play better to the music melody better since that's what youre trying to follow. Same for 01:11:787 (5,6) -
01:07:085 (2,3) - same as 00:31:168 (3,4) made it a simpler rhythm thanks!
01:08:260 (5,6,7,8,9) - this plays so much different to 01:06:171 (1,2,3,4,5) . Such drastic changes in the way you play the same melody is a bad idea imo. Couldn't you stick to pattern for all these parts and slightly tweak it? fdx
01:45:875 - Add circle? You've done similar things elsewhere in the map yea
02:10:951 (1) - The tail should be close to (2) not the head dun
02:13:040 - I think this would play much better as an active beat, how about this? http://puu.sh/tfnsJ/befcb7f9b4.jpg
02:50:655 (1) - These sounds are so strong yet the spacing is so small. This is such a climatic part of the song, can't you increase the spacings a bit? incrased sapciing

GL!

thanks for the mod!!

riktoi rank asgore

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-01-14T19:21:51+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Normal
00:53:371 (4,1) - The approach circle of (1) comes before (4) finishes so you have to use DS here Theres no possible way i can keep consistent distance snap with this, because the gap in time is too long and theres no where i'd be able to put it
00:50:498 (3) - This is a very similar sound to 00:48:408 (3) so I think it's better to make it 3/2 reverse slider as well Fixed
00:55:722 (1) - I don't like the rhythm of this section. You haven't mapped to the song at all for the sake of polarity. Like at 00:55:722 (1) The strong sounds are --> http://puu.sh/tfnPJ/8b9b604faa.jpg but you've mapped none existant sounds on white ticks. It's really noticeable when playing and just doesn't feel right at all I see what you mean, I'll remap that part (eventuallydddd)
02:51:700 (2,3) - Imo it would be better to turn these notes into a slider like 02:53:789 (2). Or at least have the more difficult pattern come later I made them both circles to get rid of the weird difficulty change
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asgore daddy dddddd

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riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-01-14T19:23:14+00:00

OK

LowAccuracySS

605 posts

Joined October 2015

LowAccuracySS 2017-01-28T18:18:49+00:00

can I make an extra

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-01-28T18:43:49+00:00

[ Space ] wrote:
can I make an extra

sorry but no, all slots are full

StrafeCombo_

264 posts

Joined May 2016

StrafeCombo_ 2017-02-01T12:13:54+00:00

Conflit tag Normal/Determination

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-02-01T13:11:46+00:00

fixed, forgot to post

thanks

zigizigiefe

952 posts

Joined March 2013

zigizigiefe 2017-02-03T09:23:10+00:00

I love this song,so i wanna mod this
[Determination]

00:29:079 (3) - delete slider and put circles on slider begin and end
00:29:601 (1,2) - Thats low-sounded and slow part,so that two sliders can't reflect the music.You should use slow and little sliders.Like here:00:00:232 (1,2) -
00:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Square jumps are not fit here imo.
00:46:319 (1,2) - Same as 00:29:601 (1,2) -
00:47:364 (1) - I think slider should end at 00:47:886 - on x:208 y:96,then put a circle on previous slider end
00:51:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
00:55:592 (3) - Delete this pls,there is no sound here.Also seems awkward.
02:30:019 (1,1,1) - Remove NCs,looks bad.

Fun map,good luck

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-02-03T10:14:06+00:00

zigizigiefe wrote:
I love this song,so i wanna mod this
[Determination]
00:29:079 (3) - delete slider and put circles on slider begin and end true
00:29:601 (1,2) - Thats low-sounded and slow part,so that two sliders can't reflect the music.You should use slow and little sliders.Like here:00:00:232 (1,2) - it's hard to explain, but what I'm aiming for here is a kind of "intro" to the kiai, whereas the parts after it have lower slider velocity to signal that the next section will have lower slider velocity too. I guess that's how I would explain it.
00:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Square jumps are not fit here imo. yeah. I don't think they are the perfect solution either, I just wanted to have something for this climax and the idea of burst jumps and patterns like these came first into my mind.
00:46:319 (1,2) - Same as 00:29:601 (1,2) - same
00:47:364 (1) - I think slider should end at 00:47:886 - on x:208 y:96,then put a circle on previous slider end would otherwise probably be cool but it breaks the consistency with the other kiai.
00:51:543 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - answer up there
00:55:592 (3) - Delete this pls,there is no sound here.Also seems awkward. oko
02:30:019 (1,1,1) - Remove NCs,looks bad. yeah, I think it's readable withount them
Fun map,good luck

thanks

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-02-03T11:01:12+00:00

[Antares' Extra]

00:05:010 (2) - if you make this face the same angle as the slider here 00:04:479 (1) - it will look better, it's not a necessity but it really changes nothing gameplay wise

00:05:541 (3,4,5,6) - considering the beat alternates a bit here you could have this wiggle (no need for spacing changes tho)

00:06:603 (1,2) - make these curve just a tiny bit

00:15:099 (1,2,3,4) - this is your choice, but if you ever feel this is too much you can go with the rhythm I have

00:16:161 (1) - no need for finish considering it lands on nothing

00:26:859 (2,3,4) - use constant spacing on these as there are no changes to the rhythm

like this, for example

00:36:915 - since the beat still goes on here it's best to follow it instead of suddenly stopping

00:37:699 - also avoid placing the slider reverse on heavy beats like this one, makes things veeery awkward (you can pretty much fix it with the suggestion above)

00:45:666 (2,3,4) - I think this one applies to the same spacing thing more or less, see what you can do

00:47:756 (3) - hitsounding mistake?

00:54:286 (2) - you should remove this as it's inherently on nothing

00:55:722 (1,2,3,4) - probably want to nerf the spacing between double taps like this as it's a pattern that produces far more strain than normal jumps would. if you think it's fine that's fine

01:02:971 (4) - snapping this on 01:03:003 - is the technically correct way, but it might be for the best to completely leave them out (and by "them" I mean 01:02:971 (4) - 01:03:363 (6) - 01:03:787 (7) - and the later ones at 01:11:330 (1) - 01:12:113 (4) - )

01:07:085 (1) - try replacing this with a slider or something

01:20:276 (3) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA blanket off it's ok easy fix

01:30:071 (5,1,2,3) - inconsistent hitsounding

01:56:323 (1) - I think these stoppers actually work really well lol

02:30:803 (1,2,3) - either face these the same way or make it into a perfect triangle

the easy way

02:31:325 (3) - either change this slider so you can place a hitcircle at 02:31:586 - or place a hitsound on the sliderend

02:42:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - adjust the hitsounding on this so it follows the song better, it's the only thing that irks me in this pattern

02:48:565 (1,2,3) - actually just check the whole buildup's hitsounds lo

[Mazziv's Insane]

~~recheck hitsounds just in case, I feel like you might be missing some on sliderends (unless you are avoiding hitsounding them which is 120% fine)~~
nvm they're copypasted from mine xd

OK

[HOS' Hard]

missing hitsounds (do you want to just copy from my diff orrrr do it yourself or make me do it)

[UltimaFox's Normal]

also missing hitsounds

there we go

Last edited by riktoi 2017-02-04T12:28:48+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

StrafeCombo_

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StrafeCombo_ 2017-02-03T19:52:37+00:00

Want to see it ranked

Antares-

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Joined December 2012

Antares- 2017-02-03T23:04:36+00:00

nghh

riktoi wrote:
[Antares' Extra]

00:05:010 (2) - if you make this face the same angle as the slider here 00:04:479 (1) - it will look better, it's not a necessity but it really changes nothing gameplay wise i like movement of the existing patern, it doesn't look that bad

00:05:541 (3,4,5,6) - considering the beat alternates a bit here you could have this wiggle (no need for spacing changes tho) done

00:06:603 (1,2) - make these curve just a tiny bit but im not using curved ones anywhere in the intro

00:15:099 (1,2,3,4) - this is your choice, but if you ever feel this is too much you can go with the rhythm I have seems okay for me, not really eager to change d;

00:16:161 (1) - no need for finish considering it lands on nothing imho sounds better to fill that empty space after slider with sound of finish, but i guess it''s better to remove it

00:26:859 (2,3,4) - use constant spacing on these as there are no changes to the rhythm ugh liked that pattern but yeah it's kinda forced, fixed both

00:36:915 - since the beat still goes on here it's best to follow it instead of suddenly stopping following long sound that appears here, i think it plays pretty cool and i don't really see a reason to follow beat

00:37:699 - also avoid placing the slider reverse on heavy beats like this one, makes things veeery awkward (you can pretty much fix it with the suggestion above) okaaay changed to circle+slider

00:45:666 (2,3,4) - I think this one applies to the same spacing thing more or less, see what you can do already fixed ya

00:47:756 (3) - hitsounding mistake? yes

00:54:286 (2) - you should remove this as it's inherently on nothing oh my bad, yeah

00:55:722 (1,2,3,4) - probably want to nerf the spacing between double taps like this as it's a pattern that produces far more strain than normal jumps would. if you think it's fine that's fine yeah, i think it's pretty fine to play

01:02:971 (4) - snapping this on 01:03:003 - is the technically correct way, but it might be for the best to completely leave them out (and by "them" I mean 01:02:971 (4) - 01:03:363 (6) - 01:03:787 (7) - and the later ones at 01:11:330 (1) - 01:12:113 (4) - ) tried to simplify here, but i guess it's better to just drop those

01:07:085 (1) - try replacing this with a slider or something kay

01:20:276 (3) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA blanket off it's ok easy fix lol rip me

01:30:071 (5,1,2,3) - inconsistent hitsounding tried to fix a bit but eh seemed fine

01:56:323 (1) - I think these stoppers actually work really well lol : )

02:30:803 (1,2,3) - either face these the same way or make it into a perfect triangle fixed my shitty triangle

the easy way

02:31:325 (3) - either change this slider so you can place a hitcircle at 02:31:586 - or place a hitsound on the sliderend unmuted sliderend

02:42:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - adjust the hitsounding on this so it follows the song better, it's the only thing that irks me in this pattern
02:48:565 (1,2,3) - actually just check the whole buildup's hitsounds lo k fixed around a bit

https://puu.sh/tN9aA/2d3350cc18.osu

riktoi

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Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-02-04T12:39:51+00:00

updated antares' diff

tiny fixes I applied to it myself:

01:20:276 (3) - fixed blanket (I'm guessing you play on lower res because that's understandable if you missed this)

02:42:818 (4) - removed clap so it's the same as the next measure

that's all

sorry again mazziv for not remembering/noticing that hitsounding thing xd

EDIT: 23.2 hitsounds copied over from determination to hos' hard, need to apply some fixes to the hitsounds so it sounds right. Will do when I have the time

TequilaWolf

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TequilaWolf 2017-02-25T20:10:20+00:00

mod

Determination-

00:15:232 (2) - prefer if stacked on 00:15:099 (1) - . not easy to react to especially on first tries because of the distance

00:22:287 (1,2,3,4) - I think use stacks as your first serious pattern, a 230bpm jump pattern out of nowhere might be too hard. http://puu.sh/ujChC/06ecaaed76.jpg

00:33:781 (1,2,3,4) - not tidy when 1->2 is so far apart but 3->4 is so close together

00:36:915 (1) - consider ctrl+g

00:56:245 (5,6) - have consistency, these are really close to each other but 00:59:379 (5,6) - so far

01:03:036 (1,2,3) - very hard to read these 01:03:820 (5,6,1) - . maybe not overlap 01:03:167 (2,3) - ? although I think this is the preferred rhythm http://puu.sh/ujD3N/00b6877fb0.jpg

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riktoi

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Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-02-25T20:55:28+00:00

TequilaWolf wrote:
mod
Determination-

00:15:232 (2) - prefer if stacked on 00:15:099 (1) - . not easy to react to especially on first tries because of the distance adjusted

00:22:287 (1,2,3,4) - I think use stacks as your first serious pattern, a 230bpm jump pattern out of nowhere might be too hard. http://puu.sh/ujChC/06ecaaed76.jpg dont like the idea

00:33:781 (1,2,3,4) - not tidy when 1->2 is so far apart but 3->4 is so close together adjusted a bit i guess

00:36:915 (1) - consider ctrl+g na it's fineee

00:56:245 (5,6) - have consistency, these are really close to each other but 00:59:379 (5,6) - so far the second one is far more accented therefore more spacing is justified

01:03:036 (1,2,3) - very hard to read these 01:03:820 (5,6,1) - . maybe not overlap 01:03:167 (2,3) - ? although I think this is the preferred rhythm http://puu.sh/ujD3N/00b6877fb0.jpg i dont know what i'm doing but changed somewhat
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thanks

zev

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Joined September 2015

zev 2017-03-20T09:29:52+00:00

Antares-

01:51:105 (1) - rekt snap
02:10:674 (1) - rekt snap

place holder mor coming kds

Kondou-Shinichi

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Kondou-Shinichi 2017-03-20T10:24:07+00:00

rip 1 hour wasted into modding lmfao

17:27 Kondou-Shinichi: irc mod becuz im shit and crappy and lazy
17:28 Kondou-Shinichi: what diff
17:28 riktoi: every singl e on e
17:28 riktoi: only one of them is one
17:28 Kondou-Shinichi: fuk
17:28 riktoi: mine*
17:28 riktoi: and that's determination
17:28 riktoi: so if you want to mod that
17:28 riktoi: yea
17:29 Kondou-Shinichi: start off with ur diff I think idek
17:29 riktoi: ok
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: do u want blanket nazi
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: cuz im not that kind of person
17:30 riktoi: everything is fine lo
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: ok
17:31 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:14:037 (3) - if i were you ill just choose a 1/1 slider reverse idek
17:32 riktoi: o
17:33 riktoi: so you want me to end the slider on the white tick
17:33 riktoi: that works
17:33 Kondou-Shinichi: ye
17:34 riktoi: o ko
17:35 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:24:116 (5) - [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612273 this] looks better to me because 00:23:724 (3) -  is (around) 95 degree of 00:23:332 (1) - whereas 00:24:116 (5) - being like 185 degree smth
17:36 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:24:377 (1) - there seems like a sound in 00:24:638 - , perhaps do it like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612280 this] or something else, idek im not good at this
17:37 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:26:205 (6,7) - maybe use a slider since its a slider on 00:25:683 (3) -  (or maybe just replace the slider with notes too idk)
17:37 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:26:467 (1) - same with 00:24:377 (1) - 
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:27:903 (4,5,6) - (opinion) I like to have it like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612290 this]
17:39 riktoi: i like the long sliders since you get to continue from a white tick
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: hm
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: what is like continue from a white tick
17:40 riktoi: the slider starts from a white tick and lands on the red tick and you get to follow the most obvious beat which is on the white ticks here
17:40 Kondou-Shinichi: ill accept it
17:41 riktoi: dunno about your suggestion for 00:27:903 (4,5,6) - since it would heavily break the structure
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: im not u
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:44:229 (1,2,3) - try [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612299 this] because i dont think 00:44:229 (1) - really fits well (idk)
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:46:841 (2) -  wait where did this whistle came from?
17:43 riktoi: they both have whistles
17:43 riktoi: like in here 00:29:601 (1,2) -
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: erm
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: on my side
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: both of that doesnt have
17:44 riktoi: lol that's weird
17:44 riktoi: oh wait
17:44 riktoi: you are right
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: hold up
17:45 riktoi: seemed like the sliderbody had a whistle which was a mistake
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: xd
17:45 riktoi: but now only the sliderhead does like it should be
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: oh
17:46 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:55:722 - from this part on to before the kiai (I think), sounds in the song gets lower (volume is the word I think)
17:46 Kondou-Shinichi: that made the whistles a bit too loud
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: and whistles in parts like 00:56:375 (6,7,8,9) - seems to cover the background a bit which makes hearing the background "streams" hard
17:47 riktoi: yea
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: somehow
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: other streams doesnt really have this proble
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: m
17:48 riktoi: probably because of the claps
17:48 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:03:167 (2) - if you really like the short slider, make this note too
17:48 riktoi: removed the whistle
17:48 Kondou-Shinichi: (short slider refer to 01:03:036 (1) - )
17:48 riktoi: give pic
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612323 this]
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: well
17:49 riktoi: oh you just mean point it towards it direction
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:03:297 (3) - wow nice sliderend meaning
17:49 riktoi: yea i can do that
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: no
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: well
17:50 Kondou-Shinichi: let me ask you a question
17:50 Kondou-Shinichi: why not make 01:03:036 (1) - a normal note
17:51 riktoi: you see more of those if you go forward in the map
17:51 riktoi: it serves as a kind of introduction, i wanted to highlight the sound somehow
17:52 Kondou-Shinichi: wouldn't [http://puu.sh/uRjJb/4bdc9ce3ef.jpg this] work more there
17:53 riktoi: i'd rather just skip the sound on the blue tick
17:53 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:04:081 (1) - I think there is a "important" sound here
17:53 Kondou-Shinichi: here = 01:04:212 - 
17:54 riktoi: yea
17:54 riktoi: but im ignoring it because of the chanting
17:54 riktoi: also makes the section different from the section before which is nice
17:55 Kondou-Shinichi: atleast make the slider ends on red tick
17:55 Kondou-Shinichi: its still different and not missing sounds
17:56 riktoi: ok i'll see what i can do
17:56 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:06:171 (5) - nc???? idek
17:57 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:24:194 (1) - where did this nc came from
17:57 riktoi: lol
17:58 riktoi: yeah shouldnt be nc'd
17:58 riktoi: fixed
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:49:401 - I would perfer a slider here to 01:49:793 -  something like that
17:58 riktoi: also to the nc before, nc'd it
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: lol
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:57:368 (1) - end it on blue/white tick
17:59 Kondou-Shinichi: or do something like 02:01:547 (1,2,3) - 
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:02:331 (5) - felt like it could be emphazied
18:00 riktoi: nah blue tick works really nicely
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:11:473 (5) - too far away????????
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:13:955 (4) - am i deaf or are there sound here xd
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:15:130 (1) - maybe a *bit too far away
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: it can be far like 2-3 ds but not 5.7
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: again 02:18:134 - no sound
18:02 riktoi: it isn't that rough of a jump considering it's from a slider
18:02 Kondou-Shinichi: i guess so
18:02 riktoi: yea there isn't actually a sound
18:02 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:19:832 (4) - (opinion) maybe [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612371 this] ?
18:02 riktoi: but you can expect there to be a hitcircle which is what i'm aiming for i guess
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: well
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe lower the hitsound i guess
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: on there
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:22:183 (3) - you can hear that the red tick hitsound is quite loud
18:04 riktoi: yea
18:04 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:32:501 (5) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612380 another opinion] since idk 
18:06 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:34:982 (1,2,3,4) - try decreasing ds from each note like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612384 this] becuz it looks cool idk
18:06 riktoi: yea thats good
18:06 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:36:811 (5) - say hi to the blanket nazi
18:06 riktoi: 02:34:982 (1,2,3,4) - current solution is good enough imo
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: i guess so
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:39:945 (4) -  maybe make this a straight slider aswell since the previous ones are too
18:07 riktoi: that isn't really supposed to be blanketed as it would make the entry from 02:36:288 (2) - very ugly
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: oh ok
18:08 riktoi: yeah that can be a straight slider
18:08 riktoi: changed
18:08 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:42:818 (1,2,3,4) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612395 this] might flow better
18:08 Kondou-Shinichi: same applies at 02:44:908 (1,2,3,4) - 
18:09 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:46:998 (1,2,3,4) - this works ok here however because its the same square so its better to read idek
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:50:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe make the ds here a bit lower than the parts later because all of a sudden large ds might be a bit surprising
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: but the song is that sudden to so, your choise
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:54:704 (1,2) - unneeded large spacing
18:11 riktoi: last circles cmon :(
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: :V
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: ok ill let that pass xddd
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: overall seems good 
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe becuz I just sucks at modding
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: now to actually playing it
18:12 *Kondou-Shinichi is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015569 toby fox - Bergentruckung/ASGORE [Determination]]
18:12 riktoi: for the diamond pattern, i didn't think of it with flow as the spacing there is very low. it's more about reading at that point as the player who plays this should have no trouble doing those patterns
18:12 riktoi: hard to explain but y
18:12 riktoi: o wait cant spec lo
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: lol
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: update it first
18:12 riktoi: yea sec need to fix antares' shit
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: btw
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: a bit off topic
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: why does battle against a true hero sounds so touhou
18:14 riktoi: lol
18:15 riktoi: some of toby fox's stuff does sound very touhou actually
18:15 riktoi: maybe he got some inspiration from ZUN
18:15 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe
18:15 riktoi: btw updated
18:15 *Kondou-Shinichi is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015569 toby fox - Bergentruckung/ASGORE [Determination]]
18:18 Kondou-Shinichi: hmm
18:19 Kondou-Shinichi: cookiezi HDDT fc idek
18:19 riktoi: hell yea
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: lets ask tiller
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: HDDT 100% 860pp
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: :thinking:
18:21 riktoi: easy pp
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: meanwhile
18:22 *Kondou-Shinichi is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244879 Camellia feat. Nanahira - Cho*Cho*Kou*Soku*De*Mae*Sai*Soku!!! Speed*Star*Kanade [SpeedStar]]
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: wait
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: am I supposed to upload a chatlog
18:22 riktoi: yea
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: lol ok

riktoi

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Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-03-20T10:25:19+00:00

Kondou-Shinichi wrote:

rip 1 hour wasted into modding lmfao

17:27 Kondou-Shinichi: irc mod becuz im shit and crappy and lazy
17:28 Kondou-Shinichi: what diff
17:28 riktoi: every singl e on e
17:28 riktoi: only one of them is one
17:28 Kondou-Shinichi: fuk
17:28 riktoi: mine*
17:28 riktoi: and that's determination
17:28 riktoi: so if you want to mod that
17:28 riktoi: yea
17:29 Kondou-Shinichi: start off with ur diff I think idek
17:29 riktoi: ok
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: do u want blanket nazi
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: cuz im not that kind of person
17:30 riktoi: everything is fine lo
17:30 Kondou-Shinichi: ok
17:31 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:14:037 (3) - if i were you ill just choose a 1/1 slider reverse idek
17:32 riktoi: o
17:33 riktoi: so you want me to end the slider on the white tick
17:33 riktoi: that works
17:33 Kondou-Shinichi: ye
17:34 riktoi: o ko
17:35 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:24:116 (5) - [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612273 this] looks better to me because 00:23:724 (3) -  is (around) 95 degree of 00:23:332 (1) - whereas 00:24:116 (5) - being like 185 degree smth
17:36 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:24:377 (1) - there seems like a sound in 00:24:638 - , perhaps do it like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612280 this] or something else, idek im not good at this
17:37 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:26:205 (6,7) - maybe use a slider since its a slider on 00:25:683 (3) -  (or maybe just replace the slider with notes too idk)
17:37 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:26:467 (1) - same with 00:24:377 (1) - 
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:27:903 (4,5,6) - (opinion) I like to have it like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612290 this]
17:39 riktoi: i like the long sliders since you get to continue from a white tick
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: hm
17:39 Kondou-Shinichi: what is like continue from a white tick
17:40 riktoi: the slider starts from a white tick and lands on the red tick and you get to follow the most obvious beat which is on the white ticks here
17:40 Kondou-Shinichi: ill accept it
17:41 riktoi: dunno about your suggestion for 00:27:903 (4,5,6) - since it would heavily break the structure
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: im not u
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:44:229 (1,2,3) - try [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612299 this] because i dont think 00:44:229 (1) - really fits well (idk)
17:42 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:46:841 (2) -  wait where did this whistle came from?
17:43 riktoi: they both have whistles
17:43 riktoi: like in here 00:29:601 (1,2) -
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: erm
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: on my side
17:44 Kondou-Shinichi: both of that doesnt have
17:44 riktoi: lol that's weird
17:44 riktoi: oh wait
17:44 riktoi: you are right
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: hold up
17:45 riktoi: seemed like the sliderbody had a whistle which was a mistake
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: xd
17:45 riktoi: but now only the sliderhead does like it should be
17:45 Kondou-Shinichi: oh
17:46 Kondou-Shinichi: 00:55:722 - from this part on to before the kiai (I think), sounds in the song gets lower (volume is the word I think)
17:46 Kondou-Shinichi: that made the whistles a bit too loud
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: and whistles in parts like 00:56:375 (6,7,8,9) - seems to cover the background a bit which makes hearing the background "streams" hard
17:47 riktoi: yea
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: somehow
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: other streams doesnt really have this proble
17:47 Kondou-Shinichi: m
17:48 riktoi: probably because of the claps
17:48 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:03:167 (2) - if you really like the short slider, make this note too
17:48 riktoi: removed the whistle
17:48 Kondou-Shinichi: (short slider refer to 01:03:036 (1) - )
17:48 riktoi: give pic
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612323 this]
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: well
17:49 riktoi: oh you just mean point it towards it direction
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:03:297 (3) - wow nice sliderend meaning
17:49 riktoi: yea i can do that
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: no
17:49 Kondou-Shinichi: well
17:50 Kondou-Shinichi: let me ask you a question
17:50 Kondou-Shinichi: why not make 01:03:036 (1) - a normal note
17:51 riktoi: you see more of those if you go forward in the map
17:51 riktoi: it serves as a kind of introduction, i wanted to highlight the sound somehow
17:52 Kondou-Shinichi: wouldn't [http://puu.sh/uRjJb/4bdc9ce3ef.jpg this] work more there
17:53 riktoi: i'd rather just skip the sound on the blue tick
17:53 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:04:081 (1) - I think there is a "important" sound here
17:53 Kondou-Shinichi: here = 01:04:212 - 
17:54 riktoi: yea
17:54 riktoi: but im ignoring it because of the chanting
17:54 riktoi: also makes the section different from the section before which is nice
17:55 Kondou-Shinichi: atleast make the slider ends on red tick
17:55 Kondou-Shinichi: its still different and not missing sounds
17:56 riktoi: ok i'll see what i can do
17:56 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:06:171 (5) - nc???? idek
17:57 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:24:194 (1) - where did this nc came from
17:57 riktoi: lol
17:58 riktoi: yeah shouldnt be nc'd
17:58 riktoi: fixed
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:49:401 - I would perfer a slider here to 01:49:793 -  something like that
17:58 riktoi: also to the nc before, nc'd it
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: lol
17:58 Kondou-Shinichi: 01:57:368 (1) - end it on blue/white tick
17:59 Kondou-Shinichi: or do something like 02:01:547 (1,2,3) - 
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:02:331 (5) - felt like it could be emphazied
18:00 riktoi: nah blue tick works really nicely
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:11:473 (5) - too far away????????
18:00 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:13:955 (4) - am i deaf or are there sound here xd
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:15:130 (1) - maybe a *bit too far away
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: it can be far like 2-3 ds but not 5.7
18:01 Kondou-Shinichi: again 02:18:134 - no sound
18:02 riktoi: it isn't that rough of a jump considering it's from a slider
18:02 Kondou-Shinichi: i guess so
18:02 riktoi: yea there isn't actually a sound
18:02 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:19:832 (4) - (opinion) maybe [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612371 this] ?
18:02 riktoi: but you can expect there to be a hitcircle which is what i'm aiming for i guess
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: well
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe lower the hitsound i guess
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: on there
18:03 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:22:183 (3) - you can hear that the red tick hitsound is quite loud
18:04 riktoi: yea
18:04 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:32:501 (5) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612380 another opinion] since idk 
18:06 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:34:982 (1,2,3,4) - try decreasing ds from each note like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612384 this] becuz it looks cool idk
18:06 riktoi: yea thats good
18:06 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:36:811 (5) - say hi to the blanket nazi
18:06 riktoi: 02:34:982 (1,2,3,4) - current solution is good enough imo
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: i guess so
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:39:945 (4) -  maybe make this a straight slider aswell since the previous ones are too
18:07 riktoi: that isn't really supposed to be blanketed as it would make the entry from 02:36:288 (2) - very ugly
18:07 Kondou-Shinichi: oh ok
18:08 riktoi: yeah that can be a straight slider
18:08 riktoi: changed
18:08 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:42:818 (1,2,3,4) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7612395 this] might flow better
18:08 Kondou-Shinichi: same applies at 02:44:908 (1,2,3,4) - 
18:09 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:46:998 (1,2,3,4) - this works ok here however because its the same square so its better to read idek
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:50:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe make the ds here a bit lower than the parts later because all of a sudden large ds might be a bit surprising
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: but the song is that sudden to so, your choise
18:10 Kondou-Shinichi: 02:54:704 (1,2) - unneeded large spacing
18:11 riktoi: last circles cmon :(
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: :V
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: ok ill let that pass xddd
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: overall seems good 
18:11 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe becuz I just sucks at modding
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: now to actually playing it
18:12 *Kondou-Shinichi is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015569 toby fox - Bergentruckung/ASGORE [Determination]]
18:12 riktoi: for the diamond pattern, i didn't think of it with flow as the spacing there is very low. it's more about reading at that point as the player who plays this should have no trouble doing those patterns
18:12 riktoi: hard to explain but y
18:12 riktoi: o wait cant spec lo
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: lol
18:12 Kondou-Shinichi: update it first
18:12 riktoi: yea sec need to fix antares' shit
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: btw
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: a bit off topic
18:14 Kondou-Shinichi: why does battle against a true hero sounds so touhou
18:14 riktoi: lol
18:15 riktoi: some of toby fox's stuff does sound very touhou actually
18:15 riktoi: maybe he got some inspiration from ZUN
18:15 Kondou-Shinichi: maybe
18:15 riktoi: btw updated
18:15 *Kondou-Shinichi is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015569 toby fox - Bergentruckung/ASGORE [Determination]]
18:18 Kondou-Shinichi: hmm
18:19 Kondou-Shinichi: cookiezi HDDT fc idek
18:19 riktoi: hell yea
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: idk
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: lets ask tiller
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: HDDT 100% 860pp
18:21 Kondou-Shinichi: :thinking:
18:21 riktoi: easy pp
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: meanwhile
18:22 *Kondou-Shinichi is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244879 Camellia feat. Nanahira - Cho*Cho*Kou*Soku*De*Mae*Sai*Soku!!! Speed*Star*Kanade [SpeedStar]]
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: wait
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: am I supposed to upload a chatlog
18:22 riktoi: yea
18:22 Kondou-Shinichi: lol ok

thank

zev wrote:
Antares-

01:51:105 (1) - rekt snap
02:10:674 (1) - rekt snap
fixed snaps for antares- lol cant give kds just yet becuz of only aimod stuff

place holder mor coming kds

get on modding boio

riktoi

711 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

riktoi 2017-04-14T23:19:23+00:00

Hey, I think an update was much needed on this project as much has not happened since the last post.

I'm not gonna stop working on this map for my portion. Progression will be slow considering mods are the only thing that makes me change something. In case something does come up and I get an idea to fix something I will. It's just not something that has happened yet.

In case any GDers do want to drop out and make their own mapset I don't mind. It's a lot of stress for me because I am possibly the person who carries the least burden here while you guys want to get your stuff moved forward, so let me know what you think!!!

:peace: : ok_hand :

Also since hightec doesn't want to do the easy (that's how I understood from what he last wrote to me) we need another person to do it

Touhou

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Touhou 2017-05-28T21:57:34+00:00

[Hitsound Samples & mp3 Edit]

SPOILER

23:02 Touhou: would you like some custom hitsounds samples for the set?
23:02 Touhou: like a better clap maybe
23:03 riktoi: sure, why not
23:05 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3T0n/b52ecb3c99.wav
23:05 Touhou: hitclap
23:05 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3T1y/19c10aeaa6.wav
23:05 Touhou: hitfinish
23:05 Touhou: 01:12:440 (1) - finish for stuff like this
23:06 Touhou: 01:20:798 (1) - I would use it here too
23:06 Touhou: to spice it up a bit
23:06 Touhou: it gets quite repetitive the song
23:06 Touhou: volume 50% fits better imo
23:07 Touhou: 30% is too quiet
23:07 Touhou: the current hitwhistle fits pretty well, but if you want something more unique try this one
23:08 riktoi: this sounds good
23:08 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3Tb7/7d3c4189b1.wav
23:09 Touhou: oh you sure are missing a finishes
23:09 riktoi: idk not a fan of the whistle
23:09 riktoi: but the clap is good
23:09 riktoi: and the finish
23:10 Touhou: current whistle is better I agree
23:10 Touhou: but some people get tired of hearing that one
23:10 Touhou:

23:10 Touhou: 1 sec gonna write down the finishes
23:10 riktoi: alright
23:11 Touhou: 00:22:287 (1) - optional 00:30:646 (1) -
23:11 Touhou: mandatory
23:11 Touhou: the second one
23:11 riktoi: i have been cautious with the hitsound volume because of the silent mp3
23:11 Touhou: 00:32:736 (1) - I would remove finish here
23:11 Touhou: 00:39:005 (1) - optional
23:12 Touhou: 00:47:364 (1) - mandatory
23:12 Touhou: 00:49:453 (1) - wouldn't recommend
23:12 Touhou: 00:55:722 (1) - optional
23:12 Touhou: 01:04:081 (1) - I'd recommend
23:13 Touhou: 01:12:440 (1) - mandatory
23:13 Touhou: 01:20:798 (1) - optional
23:13 Touhou: 01:29:157 (1) - I'd recommend xd
23:13 Touhou: 01:37:516 (1) - optional
23:14 Touhou: 01:45:875 (1) - could have finish
23:14 Touhou: 01:54:233 (1) - please finish xd
23:14 Touhou: 02:02:592 (1) - recommending
23:15 Touhou: 02:27:668 (1) - optional
23:15 Touhou: 02:36:027 (1) - optional
23:16 Touhou: 02:50:655 (1) - mandatory
23:16 Touhou: ok that's about it
23:16 riktoi: ye added that already
23:16 Touhou: didn't check if it was added or not
23:16 Touhou: so some parts probably had them already
23:16 riktoi: it wasn't until now
23:17 *Touhou is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1219602 toby fox & FerdK - Battle Against A True Hero]
23:17 Touhou: check this expert
23:17 riktoi: 01:45:875 - i can probably change the sampleset back to soft here
23:17 Touhou: 01:29:600 (1) - that's a way you could work with whistles
23:17 Touhou: in your song too
23:18 riktoi: i could
23:18 Touhou: ok back to your song
23:19 Touhou: you should really work with different volume levels on some sections
23:20 Touhou: kiais are obviously louder, so maybe have them 10 volume more than the "regular" parts
23:20 Touhou: while having slow parts, like this 01:45:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - a bit quieter?
23:20 riktoi: ye
23:21 Touhou: that way you would get more impact
23:21 Touhou: and the song doesn't feel so flat anymore
23:21 Touhou: win win xd
23:22 Touhou: btw I can edit audio, do you want me to get rid of this break here? 00:16:161 (3,1) -
23:22 Touhou: I could also increase the volume
23:22 riktoi: i think the break is important
23:22 riktoi: but an increase in volume as long as it doesn't hurt quality is fine
23:23 riktoi: i just downscaled it straight from the ost so it's technically the best quality possible
23:23 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3U3J/749790c900.png
23:23 Touhou: the song used to be together
23:23 Touhou: the artist split it here for whatever reason
23:23 Touhou: it'
23:23 Touhou: it's actually a perfect fit if it's removed
23:23 riktoi: oh
23:23 Touhou: let me upload a version for you to check
23:23 riktoi: then that's fine i guess
23:25 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3UaH/a22531ea35.png
23:25 Touhou: perfect fit as you can see
23:25 riktoi: yea
23:27 Touhou: 1.2 dB increased
23:28 Touhou: that's the maximum I can do without distorting it on the loud parts
23:28 Touhou: uploading
23:28 riktoi: allrightg
23:29 Touhou: did you edit the mp3 on your own already?
23:29 Touhou: because seems like someone lowered the volume on purpose
23:29 riktoi: hmm actually now that i think of it i don't remember
23:29 riktoi: i could do a quick comparison between the ost files and this
23:30 Touhou: these spikes usually reach the top
23:30 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3Upu/69936df453.png
23:30 Touhou: but for whatever reason it's not, as if someone reduced the volume afterwards
23:30 riktoi: yeah
23:31 Touhou: If you prefer the pause, I can keep it in and just shorten it
23:31 Touhou: up to you
23:32 riktoi: 1 measure of pause would be nice
23:32 Touhou: measure of the first lower bpm?
23:32 Touhou: or the second faster one?
23:32 riktoi: lower bpm
23:32 Touhou: k leme check
23:33 Touhou: so a pause in the length of these 2 objects? 00:02:355 (1,1) -
23:33 Touhou: 00:02:355 (1,2) - or these 2
23:34 riktoi: 00:02:355 - 00:04:479 -
23:34 Touhou: alright, just wanted to confirm as it seemed a bit large
23:34 riktoi: ah should've said full measure i think
23:34 riktoi: music terms are hard
23:34 Touhou: na I understood what you meant

23:35 Touhou: gonna check how it sounds with one and then with alf
23:35 Touhou: half*
23:35 Touhou: puushing you better one
23:35 riktoi: the pause just fits pretty well since in the game there's a slight pause too
23:36 Touhou: ah, that explains the cut
23:40 Touhou: done, puushing
23:50 Touhou: http://puu.sh/w3Vss/58e88d9e5b.mp3
23:50 Touhou: exactly one meassure now
23:51 Touhou: now you can place the timing change on the white tick
23:51 Touhou: juicy perfection
23:52 Touhou: does it work this time?
23:53 riktoi: just a sec
23:53 riktoi: gonna be a pain to move all of this
23:53 Touhou: select them all
23:53 Touhou: and drag one
23:53 Touhou: to drag all
23:55 riktoi: yeah got it

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2017-06-18T12:47:41+00:00

h i

[determined]

http://puu.sh/wntUZ/385b93ef58.txt

[antired]

00:15:285 - triple is here my dude

01:54:480 (1,2) - you havent done overlaps for slow sliders , so personally id avoid adding it halfway through the map

02:37:319 (1,2,3,4) - only place where you used 3/4 sliders again :/ , so personally id avoid adding it at the end of the map

[mazzerin]

00:33:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - this flows a bit better imo , your current pattern is fine too though

00:53:749 (3) - only reverse arrow slider in this section stands out as inconsistent imo

02:17:467 - 02:25:825 - maybe change the rhythm a bit for this section from 02:09:108 - 02:17:467 - this section cause there is added synth , so its a bit more intense , like there are more held sounds but you mapped them as individual circles or 1/2 sliders

[horse]

od5 seems too low , od 6-6.5 works better imo

[fox]

01:52:390 (1,2,3) - can make a neat triangle here

02:52:991 (5) - nc here?

add the <2* diff soon lol

Antares-

260 posts

Joined December 2012

Antares- 2017-06-19T21:27:55+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
h i h i m r moddr

[antired]

00:15:285 - triple is here my dude simplified rhythm here, i think my rhythm works fine

01:54:480 (1,2) - you havent done overlaps for slow sliders , so personally id avoid adding it halfway through the map i think its pretty readable thats 2 notes and it doesnt feel really out of place compared to rest of map, so i guess id let it stay

02:37:319 (1,2,3,4) - only place where you used 3/4 sliders again :/ , so personally id avoid adding it at the end of the map zz but it fits that part i dont really wanna change that pattern

thanks mr moddr

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