saradisk - 220 - Kumano [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

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Title:220 - Kumano
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Artist:saradisk
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Creator:Nozhomi
Version:oko's Teitoku
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:kancolle kantai collection okorin xinely ascendance
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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-06-21T23:08:18+00:00

We're good to start hard part then :3

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-06-22T16:43:17+00:00

oko's Teitoku

Kinshara

823 posts

Joined November 2013

Kinshara 2016-06-22T22:27:18+00:00

m4m yoooo

Easy -

00:02:327 (3) - i think this rhythm works better by mapping a few more notes - http://puu.sh/pCl9l/487d359bf8.jpg
00:11:327 - eh you map this note before by using 3/2 sliders like 00:08:477 (1,2) - and then you stop mapping it? Please don't say variety as your excuse. You don't really go for variety in an easy. You go for simplicity and playability. 00:12:077 (4) - here it makes sense because you are following a different, more prominent part of the music. 00:16:127 - same here. Making these changes would do wonders for the map.
00:30:977 - you map this "yeah"-like sound here but you don't map it 00:33:377 - or 00:28:577 -. Consistency would be nice.

good map

Normal -

00:01:277 (1,2,3,4,5) - AHHHHH I hate 1/2 sliders spammed like this in a normal diff. It's really hard to play (especially considering the bpm) and confusing. Go for a simpler rhythm - http://puu.sh/pClLg/3847f3338f.jpg
00:12:977 - maybe just have a circle here and give the player a short 1/1 break before going into the next set of notes
00:17:777 - same here
00:18:977 (3,4) - at 200 bpm, this is actually quite hard for normal level players. just shorten to 1 circle would be good.
00:20:477 (1,2) - what the--- no, don't have a random 1/3 gap in your map. It will throw players off. I would suggest combining these into 1 slider.
00:26:627 - this "ara" sound you don't map at 00:24:827 - and 00:26:027 - so you don't need to map it so complicatedly here. I would go for a simpler rhythm - http://puu.sh/pCm9a/6108ce4bd6.jpg
00:36:977 (2,3,4,5,6) - not a big deal, just a generally hard pattern. If you want, you can add some sliders for a more balanced pattern (rather than a sudden spike in difficulty)

hard -

00:08:027 (1,2,3,1) - 1/2 anti-jumps are definitely okay in an insane. Not sure if it's cool to have it in a hard. I'm sure players will mistake it for a stream. Spread this out a bit?
00:19:277 (1) - I don't know... I think you should make this slider head more visible so players know where it's at.
00:32:477 - hmm you map the vocal here but then you don't at 00:33:077 - . Revise the rhythm so it maps the vocal and makes the rhythm coherent.

good mappp

insane -

00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hmmm pretty sure this is 1/6 snapped brooo. Should get some opinions from other people before making the required rhythmic changes.
00:15:377 (6,7,8,9) - consider making this a perfect square using the in-editor feature. It would make the pattern cleaner!
00:20:177 (6,7,1) - hmmm this will most likely get confused for a triplet LOL considering the way it's spaced. I would space this out more to make the distinction.
00:36:077 (1) - hmm how about this position for a cleaner pattern - http://puu.sh/pCn05/e3d7700a33.jpg

extra -

00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, pretty sure 1/6. Also don't jump straight into a stream jump. It will most certainly throw the player off. Build up the intensity. Start with sliders then slider jump to stream then a SHORT stream jump (don't go crazy please).
00:41:327 (3,4) - when you do slider to circle jumps like this it's good idea to change the momentum with the next object. Best to do so by changing the direction of cursor movement. http://puu.sh/pCnml/6d5cafd0d1.jpg maybe something like this

teikoku -

00:05:177 (2,2) - maybe make these sliders into the same bendy ones as before. The consistency in the pattern would be pretty sweet!
00:28:577 - The SV in this section is insane. I don't know. I would probably lessen it a bit (especially where you take the slider velocity up to 3+ times ._.)

goood luckkk

Maruyu

742 posts

Joined July 2013

Maruyu 2016-06-22T22:41:20+00:00

Kinshara wrote:
m4m yoooo yo actually been a while since I replied to a mod lolol
hard -

00:08:027 (1,2,3,1) - 1/2 anti-jumps are definitely okay in an insane. Not sure if it's cool to have it in a hard. I'm sure players will mistake it for a stream. Spread this out a bit? changed!
00:19:277 (1) - I don't know... I think you should make this slider head more visible so players know where it's at. I think it's still pretty visible but i'll keep this in mind if someone else refers it (which is likely that it will happen)
00:32:477 - hmm you map the vocal here but then you don't at 00:33:077 - . Revise the rhythm so it maps the vocal and makes the rhythm coherent. listening closely there's a "nya" voice in the background which is what the slider is mapped to. and it also sort of maps the vocal because it gives the feeling the volume of the vocal is actually increasing alongside the slider (sorry if I'm not being very explicit, words are hard)

good mappp love you my sexy famus boi
goood luckkk

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Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-06-22T22:55:54+00:00

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Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
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did the first point partly, i couldn't find a non boring pattern that fully satisfies your suggestion, i just find the current pattern more interesting, besides 00:03:677 (1,2) - is also leading downwards to where these things stack so i figure varying a bit around should be ok.
did integrate 00:06:677 (1,2) - into that pattern though because the way you suggested it seemed like that would be cool

as for your second suggestion, yeah. That's the point of the section, I don't intend to change it because it fits the hilarious speedchange in the song, i might also be insane now that i think about it

thanks~

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-06-23T14:33:17+00:00

Kinshara wrote:
m4m yoooo

Easy - - Fix for Xinely since it's exam time for her.

00:02:327 (3) - i think this rhythm works better by mapping a few more notes - http://puu.sh/pCl9l/487d359bf8.jpg - Fix
00:11:327 - eh you map this note before by using 3/2 sliders like 00:08:477 (1,2) - and then you stop mapping it? - Done~ Please don't say variety as your excuse. You don't really go for variety in an easy. You go for simplicity and playability. 00:12:077 (4) - here it makes sense because you are following a different, more prominent part of the music. 00:16:127 - same here - I don't agree here since it matches vocal correclty.. Making these changes would do wonders for the map.
00:30:977 - you map this "yeah"-like sound here but you don't map it 00:33:377 - or 00:28:577 -. Consistency would be nice. - Fix

good map
Normal -

00:01:277 (1,2,3,4,5) - AHHHHH I hate 1/2 sliders spammed like this in a normal diff. It's really hard to play (especially considering the bpm) and confusing. Go for a simpler rhythm - http://puu.sh/pClLg/3847f3338f.jpg - Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
00:12:977 - maybe just have a circle here and give the player a short 1/1 break before going into the next set of notes - Too strong to be skiped imo.
00:17:777 - same here - ^
00:18:977 (3,4) - at 200 bpm, this is actually quite hard for normal level players. just shorten to 1 circle would be good. - Agreed.
00:20:477 (1,2) - what the--- no, don't have a random 1/3 gap in your map. It will throw players off. I would suggest combining these into 1 slider. - Ye was a stupid idea lol.
00:26:627 - this "ara" sound you don't map at 00:24:827 - and 00:26:027 - so you don't need to map it so complicatedly here. I would go for a simpler rhythm - http://puu.sh/pCm9a/6108ce4bd6.jpg - Fix
00:36:977 (2,3,4,5,6) - not a big deal, just a generally hard pattern. If you want, you can add some sliders for a more balanced pattern (rather than a sudden spike in difficulty) - It's just 1/1 circles so honestly that's not the worst on the diff.
insane -

00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hmmm pretty sure this is 1/6 snapped brooo. Should get some opinions from other people before making the required rhythmic changes. - So I listened to the song once again at 25%, and seems like it's a mix of 1/6 followed by 1/8. So tbh I think kepping 1/4 all along to have something constant and close to the original rhythm is better.
00:15:377 (6,7,8,9) - consider making this a perfect square using the in-editor feature. It would make the pattern cleaner! - I guess you're talking about 00:14:777 (2,3,4,5) - XD
00:20:177 (6,7,1) - hmmm this will most likely get confused for a triplet LOL considering the way it's spaced. I would space this out more to make the distinction. - Fix
00:36:077 (1) - hmm how about this position for a cleaner pattern - http://puu.sh/pCn05/e3d7700a33.jpg
extra -

00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, pretty sure 1/6. Also don't jump straight into a stream jump. It will most certainly throw the player off. Build up the intensity. Start with sliders then slider jump to stream then a SHORT stream jump (don't go crazy please). - Same as Insane. Also the point here IS to go crazy.
00:41:327 (3,4) - when you do slider to circle jumps like this it's good idea to change the momentum with the next object. Best to do so by changing the direction of cursor movement. http://puu.sh/pCnml/6d5cafd0d1.jpg maybe something like this - Why it looks so bad to me ? ;w;
goood luckkk

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thx darling~
All updated

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-06-23T18:35:46+00:00

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fixed something enhu told me to (if he wants to he can get kd for discussing 00:26:477 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and how to make them less mean)

Kinshara

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Kinshara 2016-06-23T22:02:08+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Kinshara wrote:
insane -

00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hmmm pretty sure this is 1/6 snapped brooo. Should get some opinions from other people before making the required rhythmic changes. - So I listened to the song once again at 25%, and seems like it's a mix of 1/6 followed by 1/8. So tbh I think kepping 1/4 all along to have something constant and close to the original rhythm is better.

Faulty logic. You either map it properly or simplify your rhythm. Check oko's map, for example.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-06-24T12:06:17+00:00

Problem is, I don't want to do like oko :c
I'll see for an other solution but it would be stupid to follow the exact rhythm here so dunno ;w;

EDIT : I'm quite sure it's 1/8 here when listening again. Need more thoughts to confirm but seems right. So I don't see for now the need to change this.

Pho

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Pho 2016-06-25T22:26:27+00:00

So who is oko's admiral?

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-06-26T07:12:16+00:00

Pho wrote:
So who is oko's admiral?

I have to remove the 's so will be oko teitoku
Or teitoko /kill myself

Maruyu

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Joined July 2013

Maruyu 2016-06-26T10:30:47+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Pho wrote:
So who is oko's admiral?
I have to remove the 's so will be oko teitoku
Or teitoko /kill myself

kuso teitoko

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

kc memes

zosanfc

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zosanfc 2016-06-27T14:41:39+00:00

check Normal diff (00:02:777 (5) - overlap this)
i also love saradisk ♥

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-06-27T14:45:47+00:00

zosanfc wrote:
check Normal diff (00:02:777 (5) - overlap this)

There is no problem here. Or explain more the issue.

Also thx for loving saradisk ^^

MBomb

MBomb 2016-06-29T18:33:09+00:00

blame ascendance

mbomb's platter

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 8027
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:220 - Kumano
TitleUnicode:220 - Kumano
Artist:saradisk
ArtistUnicode:saradisk
Creator:Nozhomi
Version:MBomb's Platter
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:kancolle kantai collection okorin okoratu maruyu yuzu- xinely ascendance
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[Difficulty]
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Note: The platter is a bit harder than most, and I'm aware of this, but I feel that is fine, considering the rain is also pretty hard for a rain, so for spread reasons it's fine.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-06-29T18:42:03+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
blame ascendance

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-06-29T18:45:04+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
blame ascendance

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-06-30T12:25:54+00:00

I'll try to mod after ages lo
The mappers already made a good job, I'm just here to write SOME LINES!
[General]

~~Stahp puttin deez backgroundz mah nose is bleedin~~
Since the Normal use some 1/2 and use some complex rhythms (compared to the Easy) , I'd suggest ya to rename the Easy into Nely's Normal and Normal into Advanced! You'll get a Normal/Advanced/Hard spread and it'd better fit imo!

[Nely's Easy]

Fine

[Normal]

The SV is kinda high for a normal no ?
Yup that's definitely an Advanced!
No much to complain about the aesthetics of the patterns here! In my opinion they are harder than the Easy's one and the SV is way too high for a Normal

[Marooyoo's Hard <3]

CS 4 already ? woo I guess that's not a common choice c:
Perfect diff , the diff spike is correctly followed and the mapping style is really fittin' with the beat of le saradisk!

[Insane]

00:02:177 - I don't get what you're trying to follow here actually!
00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Even if it's an Insane, you should slighlt decrease the spacing between them because the recovery time between these sliders is really really short! Want to avoid useless sliderbreak who will make the player mad? you know what to do~
00:06:077 (1) - I don't get the NC here!
00:06:677 (2) - There's a vocal here that you ignored! Maybe you should map it? o:
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - That stream is slightly overmapping here! If you followed very well , you can notice that the strong sounds are at 00:32:477 - , 00:32:627 - and 00:32:777 - ! Feel free to change that!
00:39:602 (7) - That circle is clearly overmapped aswell o:
Interesting mapping with interesting ideas! I'd just complain about the few overmapped notes ( if you compare them with others streams like 00:10:577 (5,6,7,8,1) - ) but other than that , it's a cool diff so far!

[Extra]

00:07:127 (7,8,1,2,1) - If you listen that with the hitsound volume set to 0% , you'll clearly see that these patterns sound off! Also , you could map to the vocal here!
00:12:527 (3) - Not to denouce the aeshtetic aspect of that slider but I felt like you could polish it more!
00:13:277 (1) - The curve of that slider could be better aswell!
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing as the Insane
00:35:477 (3) - I don't get why the spacin' is so low at that moment! Flow broken ;_; (le cry)
Interesting ideas , the diff is okay

[Oko I'll finish the pendulum map dw]

00:02:177 - Just because it's the hardest diff of the mapset , I think you could exploit the full potential of this song and follow that beat maybe!
00:12:077 (1) - me irl
00:12:977 - There's a strong sound ignored here! I cry!
00:33:377 (1) - Are you sure you wanna keep that looool? gotta go fast!
Not much to complain here except the high sv that i cannot play mr Sanic xd

That's a decent set you got there fam!
Once again , I didn't mod for ages and you may find my suggestions useless!

Good luck with rankin' it!

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-06-30T19:23:47+00:00

Secretpipe wrote:

I'll try to mod after ages lo
The mappers already made a good job, I'm just here to write SOME LINES!
[General]

~~Stahp puttin deez backgroundz mah nose is bleedin~~ :3
Since the Normal use some 1/2 and use some complex rhythms (compared to the Easy) , I'd suggest ya to rename the Easy into Nely's Normal and Normal into Advanced! You'll get a Normal/Advanced/Hard spread and it'd better fit imo! - Ok sounds fair.

[Nely's Easy]

Fine

[Normal]

The SV is kinda high for a normal no ?
Yup that's definitely an Advanced!
No much to complain about the aesthetics of the patterns here! In my opinion they are harder than the Easy's one and the SV is way too high for a Normal
[Insane]

00:02:177 - I don't get what you're trying to follow here actually! - There is clearly a big sound here, and it work with the main melody too.
00:03:677 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Even if it's an Insane, you should slighlt decrease the spacing between them because the recovery time between these sliders is really really short! Want to avoid useless sliderbreak who will make the player mad? you know what to do~ - Tried
00:06:077 (1) - I don't get the NC here! - Ok
00:06:677 (2) - There's a vocal here that you ignored! Maybe you should map it? o: - Prefer follow other sound until the end.
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - That stream is slightly overmapping here! If you followed very well , you can notice that the strong sounds are at 00:32:477 - , 00:32:627 - and 00:32:777 - ! Feel free to change that! - Only 00:32:702 - removed, other are totally not overmapped.
00:39:602 (7) - That circle is clearly overmapped aswell o: - Ok
Interesting mapping with interesting ideas! I'd just complain about the few overmapped notes ( if you compare them with others streams like 00:10:577 (5,6,7,8,1) - ) but other than that , it's a cool diff so far!

[Extra]

00:07:127 (7,8,1,2,1) - If you listen that with the hitsound volume set to 0% , you'll clearly see that these patterns sound off! Also , you could map to the vocal here! - Yeah this is slightly off, but still playable at full speed. And I follow vocal lol.
00:12:527 (3) - Not to denouce the aeshtetic aspect of that slider but I felt like you could polish it more! - It's fine.
00:13:277 (1) - The curve of that slider could be better aswell! - It's the same form than previous stream so on purpose.
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing as the Insane - Yes
00:35:477 (3) - I don't get why the spacin' is so low at that moment! Flow broken ;_; (le cry) - Smth broke here :/
Interesting ideas , the diff is okay
That's a decent set you got there fam!
Once again , I didn't mod for ages and you may find my suggestions useless!

Good luck with rankin' it!

Thx Secret ~

Last edited by Nozhomi 2016-06-30T19:25:01+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-06-30T19:24:11+00:00

Thanks for modding!

faulty reasoning imo, i do want to introduce people into this song with that pattern, i don't think i really need to map everything
yeah, that's the point
vocal focus enforces this, kinda... so that, too, is the point of the pattern
yes might make the other 3 faster if people complain it's inconsistent, i dont think i'll slow down anything in this section

people keep telling me that the diff is harder than SR indicates, idk about that though. Thanks <3, but sadly I'm not going to change stuff for now (you can attack my reasoning as you wish, if you care to xD. Nozhomi may do to my diffname whatever he sees fitting.

Ultima Fox

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Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2016-06-30T19:32:39+00:00

Hi, from my queue

Nely's Easy

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00:22:877 (3) - NC
besides for that, looks good to me

Normal

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Looks good to me!

Maruyu's Hard

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00:19:277 (1,2,3,4) - I think you should change to something like this so its easier to read http://puu.sh/pLIBW/10ff165ae9.jpg
00:27:677 (1,2,3) - Spread out so it's more visible http://puu.sh/pLIXj/dde077b38e.jpg

Insane

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00:07:652 (1) - This NC is unnecessary
00:19:727 (3,4,5,6,7) - This part threw me off when I was playing it, it might be better to put (7) where (4) is
00:20:477 (1,2,3,4) - Also this part right after the last one made it a little confusing, so maybe add a slider somewhere between 00:19:727 (3) and 00:21:077 (4)

Extra

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All I have to say is from 00:38:927 to 00:42:077 is way harder than the rest of the map, I know it was probably intentional but the difficulty really spikes there

oko's Teitoku

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I don't know if this still takes into effect, but on the Ranking Criteria page, it says
"If non-standard slider velocity multipliers are used, they must be announced in the beatmap description during the modding process."
Also I played this map but I honestly don't know what to say ^^'

That's all from me, sorry it isn't much but this map is really well made.

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-07-01T10:57:11+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
Hi, from my queue

Nely's Easy

SPOILER
00:22:877 (3) - NC - Done~
besides for that, looks good to me

Insane

SPOILER
00:07:652 (1) - This NC is unnecessary - I prefer
00:19:727 (3,4,5,6,7) - This part threw me off when I was playing it, it might be better to put (7) where (4) is - Well I stacked 6 and 7 actually I think it fits more the song.
00:20:477 (1,2,3,4) - Also this part right after the last one made it a little confusing, so maybe add a slider somewhere between 00:19:727 (3) and 00:21:077 (4) - Did an NC on 3 to make it clear than these are 1/3.

Extra

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All I have to say is from 00:38:927 to 00:42:077 is way harder than the rest of the map, I know it was probably intentional but the difficulty really spikes there - I know that's on purpose for kiai to follow more the voice.

oko's Teitoku

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I don't know if this still takes into effect, but on the Ranking Criteria page, it says
"If non-standard slider velocity multipliers are used, they must be announced in the beatmap description during the modding process." - Oko added it~
Also I played this map but I honestly don't know what to say ^^'

That's all from me, sorry it isn't much but this map is really well made.

Thx for the mod~

TicClick

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TicClick 2016-07-01T11:11:52+00:00

[Teitoku]

00:34:277 (4,5,6,7) - would replace with two doubles, because this is what I think it should be

[Extra]
In all honesty, I absolutely don't like the way you hitsounded it. Disappointed by the lack of finishers (see Oko's difficulty (00:24:077 (1) / 00:26:477 (1) et cetera), and also lack strong and loud hitsounds, AND horrendous amount of soft hitclaps. I strongly recommend to rip hitsounds off Okorin's difficulty, because hey, I like Okoratu's version more, especially with nearly no claps!

00:18:077 (1) - would add a curve
00:21:302 (6) - the slider should start from here, according to the vocals
00:26:327 (5,1) - would make a jump here, not between next two notes
00:27:527 (6,1) - and here too
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - feels like it plays better if you move it up a bit: https://tc.s-ul.eu/qG8Fidzh.png
00:38:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay, the clap spam, it really spoils the music here
00:39:377 (5,6) - it took me a while to find a reason for the usage of these.. perhaps you should resort to something more obvious, like spaced 1/2nd notes or a sl;ider

The second half (from 65% til;l the end) somehow looks cheap, compared to both the first half and oko's diff. Small jumps going in circles (I mean, triangles, but you get the idea), random stacks, well, perhaps it's just me disliking things.

[Insane]

00:04:877 (3,5) - a new combo wouldn't hurt (or add it to 5 only)
00:18:977 (5,6,1) - it's fairly easy to take it for a triplet
00:20:027 (5,6,7,1) - I like it more when they go clockwise with 1 ending at 00:20:327 (7)'s place
00:21:302 (4) - the slider should start from here, according to the vocals
00:28:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and 00:38:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) once again, I dislike how simply this is mapped but can't put my finger on anything in particular... just the whole kiai is really unappealing to the eye. Sorry.
00:37:277 (1,2) - replace with a 3/4 + 1/2 slider or a pair of two 1/2 sliders to map vocals

[Hard]
See my note about hitsounds @ Extra; other than that, everything's sm,ooth

00:25:277 (1) - I recommend to add a manual stack here (because it doesn't stack with 00:24:677 (3) automatically) by moving 00:25:277 (1,2) 4px right and down, so its coordinates translate to 57;148
00:27:677 (1,2) - both have to be snapped to 1/3, not 1/4

[Advanced]

00:03:677 (1) - sounds better if you end it on a white tick
00:42:077 (3,6) - add new combo due to the change in music?

[Normal]

00:03:677 (1) - again, it's better if you end it on a white tick
00:22:877 (3) - could add a new combo

Xinely

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Joined April 2012

Xinely 2016-07-03T13:52:20+00:00

TicClick wrote:
[Normal]
00:03:677 (1) - again, it's better if you end it on a white tick it was an easy diff and i ended my spinner for having 1500ms recovery time, now its normal so yes i changed tho i end the spinner at 00:07:127 - for follow vocal
00:22:877 (3) - could add a new combo yep

thanks ~

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Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-07-03T14:24:09+00:00

TicClick wrote:
[Extra]
In all honesty, I absolutely don't like the way you hitsounded it. Disappointed by the lack of finishers (see Oko's difficulty (00:24:077 (1) / 00:26:477 (1) et cetera), and also lack strong and loud hitsounds, AND horrendous amount of soft hitclaps. I strongly recommend to rip hitsounds off Okorin's difficulty, because hey, I like Okoratu's version more, especially with nearly no claps! - Oko prediction happens. Ok did it ;w;
00:18:077 (1) - would add a curve - Fix
00:21:302 (6) - the slider should start from here, according to the vocals - Fix
00:26:327 (5,1) - would make a jump here, not between next two notes - I think the jump for the vocal fit more imo.
00:27:527 (6,1) - and here too - ^
00:32:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - feels like it plays better if you move it up a bit: https://tc.s-ul.eu/qG8Fidzh.png - Fix
00:38:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay, the clap spam, it really spoils the music here - Fix with 1st point.
00:39:377 (5,6) - it took me a while to find a reason for the usage of these.. perhaps you should resort to something more obvious, like spaced 1/2nd notes or a sl;ider - For now I want to stay with these sliders, if more people dislike them well I'll see.
The second half (from 65% til;l the end) somehow looks cheap, compared to both the first half and oko's diff. Small jumps going in circles (I mean, triangles, but you get the idea), random stacks, well, perhaps it's just me disliking things. - ;w;

[Insane]
00:04:877 (3,5) - a new combo wouldn't hurt (or add it to 5 only) - Fix
00:18:977 (5,6,1) - it's fairly easy to take it for a triplet - Fix
00:20:027 (5,6,7,1) - I like it more when they go clockwise with 1 ending at 00:20:327 (7)'s place - I prefer have only (6,7) stacked to fit the song.
00:21:302 (4) - the slider should start from here, according to the vocals - Fix
00:28:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and 00:38:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) once again, I dislike how simply this is mapped but can't put my finger on anything in particular... just the whole kiai is really unappealing to the eye. Sorry. - ;w;
00:37:277 (1,2) - replace with a 3/4 + 1/2 slider or a pair of two 1/2 sliders to map vocals - Fix with 1st option.
[Advanced]
00:03:677 (1) - sounds better if you end it on a white tick - Fix
00:42:077 (3,6) - add new combo due to the change in music? - Fix

Thx a lot TicClick~
Updated Xinely diff too.

Maruyu

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Joined July 2013

Maruyu 2016-07-03T22:05:57+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
Maruyu's Hard

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00:19:277 (1,2,3,4) - I think you should change to something like this so its easier to read http://puu.sh/pLIBW/10ff165ae9.jpg I'll wait and see if someone else points this out because I wanna keep tbh
00:27:677 (1,2,3) - Spread out so it's more visible http://puu.sh/pLIXj/dde077b38e.jpg same as above
Sorry I didn't fix your stuff right away, but it's personal preference here and I need to know if I really have to change it so waiting on more opinions

Thanks for your time!

TicClick wrote:
[Hard]
See my note about hitsounds @ Extra; other than that, everything's sm,ooth hitsounds were copied, I'll leave that to Nozhomi xd
00:25:277 (1) - I recommend to add a manual stack here (because it doesn't stack with 00:24:677 (3) automatically) by moving 00:25:277 (1,2) 4px right and down, so its coordinates translate to 57;148 did
00:27:677 (1,2) - both have to be snapped to 1/3, not 1/4 changed

ty for mod CitTlick

@Nozhomi, remember to copy whatever hitsound changes you do to my map!

bodecox

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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-07-04T19:12:53+00:00

Updated~

oko diff is now oko teitoku because makes more sense :>

WingSilent

2,982 posts

Joined August 2012

WingSilent 2016-07-15T21:22:09+00:00

~~~~~~~~~~

NekoLumi's Modding

~~~~~~~~~~

I just came randomly there. o/

Teitoku :
00:18:077 (1,2) - 00:11:327 (3,4) - 00:16:577 (3,4,1) - 00:19:277 (1,2) - 00:20:477 (1,2,3) - Very hard to read in general, spacing may be the cause with the 1/4 ticks.
00:21:227 (5,6,7,8) - Rythm doesn't fit here and can highly be leading to misses.

Extra :

Extra : 00:08:927 (3,4,5,6) - 00:11:327 (3,4,5,6) - Rip mes yeux et vive les misses
00:12:977 (4,5,6,7) - 00:15:377 (6,7,8,9) - 00:17:777 (5,6,7,8) - 00:22:577 (5,6,7,8) - T'aurais du garder un spacing identique au premier stream jusqu'au kiai

00:28:727 - Manque quelque chose par ici
00:32:927 (5) - Superbe trap pour miss a 80% de chances ^^
00:39:827 (2,3,4,5) - J'ai pas compris ce qu'il m'est arrivé ici

/

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-07-22T01:40:27+00:00

rdy for rank

Maruyu

742 posts

Joined July 2013

Maruyu 2016-07-22T10:08:58+00:00

let's go LET'S GO

Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

1,343 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2016-07-22T11:35:27+00:00

[Nely's Normal]

00:37:277 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 这一部分全是1/1滑条显得比较单调，可以试试这样 http://puu.sh/qaptN/bbb2e675db.jpg

[Advanced]

00:03:677 (1) - end the spinner at 00:07:127 - maybe? that's where the vocal starts, which makes more sense to me
00:14:477 (1) - 1->2 looks 1.3x ds

[Maruyu's Hard]

00:03:677 (1) - same as Advanced diff, it's actually cool that three mappers have different ideas ending the spinner lol
00:19:877 (3,4) - considering u are mostly following vocals in this section, try this rhythm which better fits the vocal instead?

[Insane]

00:05:477 (4,1) - swap nc? cuz ur pattern is like 3 reversed sliders as a whole
00:20:477 (1,2,1) - the rhythm is still not that intuitive for reading even if u follow ds here cuz u also applied similar spacing to previous 1/2 gaps like 00:18:077 (1,2,3) - , so i would suggest simply make this a 3/4 reversed slider, which is an easier alternative compared with ur extra diff

[Extra]

00:17:777 (5,6) - serious? i'd rather believe this is misplaced

Maruyu

742 posts

Joined July 2013

Maruyu 2016-07-23T20:43:32+00:00

Garden wrote:
[Maruyu's Hard]
00:03:677 (1) - same as Advanced diff, it's actually cool that three mappers have different ideas ending the spinner lol Okay xd
00:19:877 (3,4) - considering u are mostly following vocals in this section, try this rhythm which better fits the vocal instead? might seem that way but the vocals I mapped coincide with the melody so keeping

@Nozhomi, it's a small fix and I'm lazy so please extend that slider

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-07-23T23:04:20+00:00

Will fix that when back ~

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-07-24T14:26:49+00:00

Xinely NM -

00:09:677 (2,2) - avoidable overleap

nothing else to say gg wp hf lolilol

Advanced

00:27:077 (3) - this note seems weird
00:34:877 (3,1) - avoidable overleap too
00:02:027 (3,5) - i don't know if its perfectly symetrical, probably yes, but with the stacks i don't know :c

Maruyu HD

00:16:877 (1,3) - i think this part can be more beautiful if you try to stack the note on the 1, its just my opinion bro
00:16:877 (1,3) - avoidable overleap, its probably intentional idk

Insane
00:42:077 (1,2,3) - why the spacing here is not the same as 00:42:377 (1,2,3) - ?

gl for rank,

bisous bisous jambon beurre le parisien tu le sais #bdxenforce

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2016-07-24T14:34:58+00:00

Garden wrote:
[Nely's Normal]
00:37:277 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 这一部分全是1/1滑条显得比较单调，可以试试这样 http://puu.sh/qaptN/bbb2e675db.jpg ke yi

and fixed overlap spotty said

thanks

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Maruyu

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Maruyu 2016-07-26T19:24:54+00:00

Spotty wrote:
Maruyu HD

00:16:877 (1,3) - i think this part can be more beautiful if you try to stack the note on the 1, its just my opinion bro stacking would mean that the ds I set up on purpose would be rekt,and it doesn't look particularly bad
00:16:877 (1,3) - avoidable overleap, its probably intentional idk relates to the above, i overlapped those like that on purpose :p

nely is very very hentai ;w;

victor david

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victor david 2016-07-27T01:36:10+00:00

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