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Girls' Generation - Tell Me Your Wish (Genie) [Taiko]

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Poii
:) Poii NM service :)

|d for don| D for Big Don| k for katsu| K for Big Katsu|

Futsuu
Mods
00:56:629 (80) - better bury this :v i mean kick it away
01:25:166 (163) - change to d, bass drum sound :v and same as oni
01:27:117 (167) - same ^
01:34:922 (183,184,185,186) - k d k d ? how about d k d k ?
01:59:068 (237) - kill this
01:59:068 (237) - miss this one ?
02:41:263 (12) - k ? you place d here 00:56:385 (79) - and here 01:58:337 (235) - -_-
02:41:995 (14) - delete this
02:56:142 (56) - say goodbye to this note, i mean just delete it :v
03:00:044 (68) - burn this :v i mean del
03:03:946 (80) - BUUURRRRNNN :v del this
03:09:068 - missing girlfriend ? i mean note :v

Muzukashi
Mods
00:51:507 (91) - change to D "Geuraeyo nan"
01:22:727 (208) - change to k, better sound (i think) :v
01:22:971 (209) - you can del this k, for a better sound, cause the snare and vocal is too weak :3
01:27:117 (221,222) - k d ? not d k
01:53:946 (302) - change to D
02:33:459 (441) - better d or k or D ? (i think D)
02:36:873 (2) - change to D
02:44:434 (31) - Throw this :v
02:45:166 (32) - strong vocal, change it to K

Oni
Mods
Oni
01:25:166 (257) - i dunno why sir, but its better when i changed it to d, you can ignore this, in another case, you place d, before triplet, so why you place k there ?
00:51:507 (91) - change to D, its better than K "Geuraeyo nan"
01:53:946 (301) - change to D
02:36:629 (1) - change to D
02:44:434 (31) - del, same pattern like previous
02:45:166 (33) - strong vocal, change it to K

psssttt
Sorry i cant mods Inner oni :o and i cant find any problem with your kantan
8-) Free comment, Free reject 8-)
Topic Starter
Aldwych

PoPoii wrote:

:) Poii NM service :)

|d for don| D for Big Don| k for katsu| K for Big Katsu|

Futsuu
Mods
00:56:629 (80) - better bury this :v i mean kick it away Made some changes on the kiai but fixed at these places.
01:25:166 (163) - change to d, bass drum sound :v and same as oni Fixed on futsuu at least
01:27:117 (167) - same ^
01:34:922 (183,184,185,186) - k d k d ? how about d k d k ? I prefer my version, vocals and tense :V
01:59:068 (237) - kill this
01:59:068 (237) - miss this one ? Wat on these 2? Oo Made my changes tho'
02:41:263 (12) - k ? you place d here 00:56:385 (79) - and here 01:58:337 (235) - -_- -_-
02:41:995 (14) - delete this made same changes
02:56:142 (56) - say goodbye to this note, i mean just delete it :v Did on all wtf how
03:00:044 (68) - burn this :v i mean del
03:03:946 (80) - BUUURRRRNNN :v del this
03:09:068 - missing girlfriend ? i mean note :v
Break :V

Muzukashi
Mods
00:51:507 (91) - change to D "Geuraeyo nan" I like D K K D since the k are for the high vocals and the D as beats or filler
01:22:727 (208) - change to k, better sound (i think) :v That would make too much k for me :V
01:22:971 (209) - you can del this k, for a better sound, cause the snare and vocal is too weak :3 I'm fine with it
01:27:117 (221,222) - k d ? not d k Consitency with 01:31:020 sure
01:53:946 (302) - change to D bla
02:33:459 (441) - better d or k or D ? (i think D) that would make some problems with the next diff, even if K is legit for me.
02:36:873 (2) - change to D
02:44:434 (31) - Throw this :v Don't break my structures! D:
02:45:166 (32) - strong vocal, change it to K Not that much, i mean (32) was kinda important tho.

Oni
Mods
Oni
01:25:166 (257) - i dunno why sir, but its better when i changed it to d, you can ignore this, in another case, you place d, before triplet, so why you place k there ? Fixed
00:51:507 (91) - change to D, its better than K "Geuraeyo nan"
01:53:946 (301) - change to D
02:36:629 (1) - change to D
02:44:434 (31) - del, same pattern like previous Fixed yep
02:45:166 (33) - strong vocal, change it to K The rest is denied, same argues as other diffs so.

psssttt
Sorry i cant mods Inner oni :o and i cant find any problem with your kantan
8-) Free comment, Free reject 8-)
Nice mod dude, it polished a bit by removing several mistakes from me. :>
JessiChan
Hihi M4M request ^^

Note: My english is very bad and... i can mod muzu > oni > inner oni. Easiers diff are difficult for me (noob modder) :?

d Little Don
k Little Kat
D Big Don
K Big Kat

Muzukashii
00:25:166 (13) - k
00:29:068 (24) - ^
00:30:776 (29) - d
01:35:166 (245,246) - ctrl + g
01:40:288 (258) - k

Oni
00:28:824 (31,32) - ctrl + g
01:02:117 (158) - d
01:06:873 (179,180) - k
01:10:776 (197) - ^
01:11:020 (199) - d
01:14:678 (214) - k
01:14:922 (216) - d
01:33:946 (293) - Delethe this
01:48:093 (342) - k
02:17:117 (470) - ^
02:19:068 (479) - ^
02:29:312 (521) - add a k here
02:29:800 (523) - d

Inner Oni
00:38:824 (76) - k
00:39:556 (80) - d
00:40:288 (84) - Delete This
00:47:971 (118) - k
00:48:093 (119) - Delete This
01:02:117 (190) - d
01:05:288 (205,206) - ctrl + g
01:06:873 (215) - k
01:10:166 (232,233) - ctrl + g
01:33:946 (345) - Delete this
01:36:995 (357,358) - ctrl + g
01:37:361 (360) - k
01:48:581 (408) - Delete this
01:50:410 (418) - k
01:50:532 (419) - Delete this
02:29:312 (615) - add a d
02:50:654 (81,82) - ctrl + g
02:58:824 (130,131) - ^
02:59:190 (133,134) - ^

Good Look ^^
Topic Starter
Aldwych

JessiChan wrote:

Hihi M4M request ^^

Note: My english is very bad and... i can mod muzu > oni > inner oni. Easiers diff are difficult for me (noob modder) :?

d Little Don
k Little Kat
D Big Don
K Big Kat

Muzukashii
00:25:166 (13) - k It was already from previous mod, guess you got the good intuition.
00:29:068 (24) - ^ Fixed Fixed
00:30:776 (29) - d
01:35:166 (245,246) - ctrl + g Fine with this pattern
01:40:288 (258) - k
Already

Oni
00:28:824 (31,32) - ctrl + g Beat at this place, won't change
01:02:117 (158) - d Keeping the contrast where the beats are.
01:06:873 (179,180) - k Double similar patterns part
01:10:776 (197) - ^ Fixed just because of next pattern for mirror style.
01:11:020 (199) - d Keeping for ^
01:14:678 (214) - k Keeping
01:14:922 (216) - d Keeping
01:33:946 (293) - Delethe this Waaat? Beats?
01:48:093 (342) - k Fixed
02:17:117 (470) - ^ Reverse patterns
02:19:068 (479) - ^ Vocals are not high
02:29:312 (521) - add a k here why?
02:29:800 (523) - d
Why?

Inner Oni
00:38:824 (76) - k
00:39:556 (80) - d
00:40:288 (84) - Delete This
00:47:971 (118) - k
00:48:093 (119) - Delete This
01:02:117 (190) - d
01:05:288 (205,206) - ctrl + g
01:06:873 (215) - k
01:10:166 (232,233) - ctrl + g
01:33:946 (345) - Delete this
01:36:995 (357,358) - ctrl + g
01:37:361 (360) - k
01:48:581 (408) - Delete this
01:50:410 (418) - k
01:50:532 (419) - Delete this
02:29:312 (615) - add a d
02:50:654 (81,82) - ctrl + g
02:58:824 (130,131) - ^
02:59:190 (133,134) - ^

All denied, you're deleting at non-sense part just to follow vocals and completely forgot the beats and you're changing patterns where i used reverse style, some patterns a made to create a music and play style and it has to be kept.

Good Look ^^
Thanks for the mod, will look on your map further :D
Aloda
Hey. Looks like previous modders have gone for the higher diffs, so I'm gonna focus on the lower ones.
Metadata
I'm not 100% sure about this but after a bit of research it seems like the official Korean song title is "소원을 말해봐 (Genie)". You might want to do some research of your own to make sure though.

Also, some things you might want to add to the tags:
  • Oh! (the name of the album the song is from)
    SNSD (common abbreviation of the group's Korean name)
    Since you have the Romanised member names, you might also want to add their Korean names: 태연, 써니, 티파니, 효연, 유리, 수영, 윤아, 서현 and 제시카

General
Your preview point isn't snapped correctly

For 03:08:581 - 03:24:190, the two other times this rhythm happens you've made it Kiai, so why not this time? tbh I think you'd be better off removing the Kiai from the other sections to make more of a contrast between them and the stronger sections preceding them.

It looks like the song only has 3 or 4 different rhythms that it repeats through the song, My suggestions below only mention the first time a rhythm occurs, but note that they apply to all instances of that rhythm.

Kantan
I think your structure in the 00:36:385 - 00:51:995 section is a little weird. You've placed most of your 1/1 patterns so they cover the first half of each bar, but, imo, both the music and the vocals are stronger in the second half. I think this section would play a lot better if you changed it around to match this (move 00:38:824 (22) to 00:37:849 etc). If you're worried about the becoming too similar to the previous section, I think it's okay since the music here is basically just a more intense version of the same thing.

There's something a little off about the first half of your Kiai section(s). It seems like you're trying to map to the vocals, but I think you're missing some of the more important vocal sounds. Try removing 00:52:483 (41) and adding a note at 00:54:434. I think this matches the vocals a little better and plays better too.

Futsuu
I don't really understand the 1/2 patterns you've used at the start. (00:21:751 (2,3,4) etc). Many of them don't really seem to be mapped to anything, and there are some really strong drum sounds that you've ignored. I also think that this density of 1/2 patterns doesn't contrast well with the following section. It has a very similar density to this one, yet the music is much more intense. For this section, you have a couple of options. You could try some simple 1/1 patterns, similar to what you've done in the Kantan, but with the gaps filled in, or, you could map more closely to the rhythm - like this
I think that having 3/4 spacing like this in a Futsuu would be okay here since the bpm is quite low. You could continue with patterns like this throughout the section.

You're mapping to the vocals in 00:36:385 - 00:51:995? I think it would match the vocals a lot better if you moved 00:37:849 (35,36,37) and 00:45:654 (53,54,55) a beat backwards.

I can kind of see what you're mapping to 01:07:605 - 01:23:215, but it plays very strangely imo. I think this section would benefit from mapping closely to the rhythm, since the vocals here aren't really suited to being mapped.

Muzukashii
Like with the Futsuu, I don't really understand your structure at the start. I think you could build on my suggestion to map to the rhythm by including the strong drum beats too. Like with the Futsuu, this structure would be repeated through the section.

For 00:36:385 - 00:51:995, I think you could map a little more closely to the vocals, including some of the 1/4 vocal sounds, like at 00:38:093. As is, your structure seems to be halfway between mapping to the vocals and the rhythm, and it feels very strange to play.

I feel that many of the 1/4 triplet you've used in the Kiai are a little over the top. There are some 1/4 sounds in the background, but you're mapping to the vocals, so you should let that be the main thing that influences your mapping. Particularly in the second half (01:07:605 - 01:23:215), patterns like 01:08:824 (154,155,156,157) are fine since they match nicely with the vocals, but 01:09:800 (158,159,160) and 01:10:776 (162,163,164) feel [i]very[/i/] forced to me. I think you should go through the Kiai sections and try to remove the 1/4 patterns that aren't necessary for the flow of the map.
gl with the map :D
Topic Starter
Aldwych
Hi Aloda!

Aloda wrote:

Hey. Looks like previous modders have gone for the higher diffs, so I'm gonna focus on the lower ones. as you wish
Metadata
I'm not 100% sure about this but after a bit of research it seems like the official Korean song title is "소원을 말해봐 (Genie)". You might want to do some research of your own to make sure though. Wikipedia seems a safe one, applied

Also, some things you might want to add to the tags:
  • Oh! (the name of the album the song is from) Hmmm since it's also a song, i prefer note, the argue is decent, but the result behind may not be ok.
    SNSD (common abbreviation of the group's Korean name) Yup
    Since you have the Romanised member names, you might also want to add their Korean names: 태연, 써니, 티파니, 효연, 유리, 수영, 윤아, 서현 and 제시카 and yep

General
Your preview point isn't snapped correctly It doesn't need to be snapped by what i know ( unless you prove me wrong)
For 03:08:581 - 03:24:190, the two other times this rhythm happens you've made it Kiai, so why not this time? tbh I think you'd be better off removing the Kiai from the other sections to make more of a contrast between them and the stronger sections preceding them. Hmmm nice ideas but for now i'll refuse, by order : I'll keep 03:08:581 as non kiai because after taeyeon solo, it feels weird to keep this as kiai also if you looked at the dance it looks like an ending (even tho that's not the most decent argue to give i admit haha). The two others are still on kiai since it's the collective part song and not solo or duo, it seems logic to group in the kiai. However if it's compromising to the ranking, i'll do the changes but for now i'll keep how it is

It looks like the song only has 3 or 4 different rhythms that it repeats through the song, My suggestions below only mention the first time a rhythm occurs, but note that they apply to all instances of that rhythm. Yep you've described well, it's a pop song so there's no multiple rythm, i'm just doing dense parts depending on how important/calm the music is.

Kantan
I think your structure in the 00:36:385 - 00:51:995 section is a little weird. You've placed most of your 1/1 patterns so they cover the first half of each bar, but, imo, both the music and the vocals are stronger in the second half. I think this section would play a lot better if you changed it around to match this (move 00:38:824 (22) to 00:37:849 etc). If you're worried about the becoming too similar to the previous section, I think it's okay since the music here is basically just a more intense version of the same thing. Tbh i don't see much difference on the changes (i mean what it gives more). HOWEVER, there's something you've may ommit, is the density, if i do the changed, i've to do this 00:45:654 - right? But what's just before? A quint with finisher as end. That would be a bit too dense to play for new players right? Let's keep a clean start part :D

There's something a little off about the first half of your Kiai section(s). It seems like you're trying to map to the vocals, but I think you're missing some of the more important vocal sounds. Try removing 00:52:483 (41) and adding a note at 00:54:434. I think this matches the vocals a little better and plays better too. Yes but have you analised well the first kiai part? All my quints suits because they scale on 1/1 lyrics, just listen again the chorus, there's no 1/2 lyrics on where i mapped, it's between them and i strongly think it's easier for new players to focus on not dense lyrics, the other 1/1 are decent since it's the main beat and easy to follow and look by the white bar

Futsuu
I don't really understand the 1/2 patterns you've used at the start. (00:21:751 (2,3,4) etc). Many of them don't really seem to be mapped to anything, and there are some really strong drum sounds that you've ignored. I also think that this density of 1/2 patterns doesn't contrast well with the following section. It has a very similar density to this one, yet the music is much more intense. For this section, you have a couple of options. You could try some simple 1/1 patterns, similar to what you've done in the Kantan, but with the gaps filled in, or, you could map more closely to the rhythm - like this
I think that having 3/4 spacing like this in a Futsuu would be okay here since the bpm is quite low. You could continue with patterns like this throughout the section. Yep, it sounds good, changed in that way except for 00:31:507 (22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - which i want to keep that way.


You're mapping to the vocals in 00:36:385 - 00:51:995? I think it would match the vocals a lot better if you moved 00:37:849 (35,36,37) and 00:45:654 (53,54,55) a beat backwards Agree, it sounds better..

I can kind of see what you're mapping to 01:07:605 - 01:23:215, but it plays very strangely imo. I think this section would benefit from mapping closely to the rhythm, since the vocals here aren't really suited to being mapped. Tried different things, but i'm not happier. If you have any ideas, do not hesitate

Muzukashii
Like with the Futsuu, I don't really understand your structure at the start. I think you could build on my suggestion to map to the rhythm by including the strong drum beats too. Like with the Futsuu, this structure would be repeated through the section. Changed in that way

For 00:36:385 - 00:51:995, I think you could map a little more closely to the vocals, including some of the 1/4 vocal sounds, like at 00:38:093. As is, your structure seems to be halfway between mapping to the vocals and the rhythm, and it feels very strange to play. Look at the oni before :D

I feel that many of the 1/4 triplet you've used in the Kiai are a little over the top. There are some 1/4 sounds in the background, but you're mapping to the vocals, so you should let that be the main thing that influences your mapping. Particularly in the second half (01:07:605 - 01:23:215), patterns like 01:08:824 (154,155,156,157) are fine since they match nicely with the vocals, but 01:09:800 (158,159,160) and 01:10:776 (162,163,164) feel [i]very[/i/] forced to me. I think you should go through the Kiai sections and try to remove the 1/4 patterns that aren't necessary for the flow of the map. The gap with the oni would be meh after.
gl with the map :D
Finished. Interesting and really decent mod, well that's what i expected tbh, i'm curious how long you took for this mod.
Arrival
salu pierre yves thomas

[General]

Rajoute k-pop et SM Entertainment (leur label) dans les tags

Peut etre OD 2.5 / 3 pour la Kantan / 3.5 pour la Futsuu / 4.5 pour la Muzu ?
Considère vivement 5.5 pour la Inner. OD 6 123 BPM ça fait du OD 9 185BPM en DT.....

[Kantan]

00:49:556 - Rajoute une note ici ? Sachant que tu as un break 4/1 après, et que a correspond au pattern 00:42:239 (27,28,29,30,31) - (et ici aussi du coup 01:51:995 - )

02:35:410 - Spinner ici ? On a deja un bon break 4/1 avant, le joueur connait la musique, c'est que bénéfique.

[Futsuu]

00:37:605 (35) - A déplacer a 00:38:093 - plutot ? Ca rend mieux imo

01:08:581 (113,114,115,116) - A la place de ça qui est un peu boring a jouer, pourquoi pas un 3/2 ? Peut etre pas obligé de le mettre pour chaque autre pattern, mais genre 1 fois sur 2 c'est peut etre intéréssant.

[Muzukashii]

01:22:483 (207) - Triplet ici ?

02:29:312 - Rajouter un kat ici rendrait bien.

03:06:385 (120) - J'aime pas trop ce genre de suggestions, mais change ça en k, car ça va vraiment mieux avec le vocal, et synergise bien avec le pattern k k ddd juste avant.

03:31:385 (212) - Je conseille un doublet dk ici. Mais simple suggestion

[Oni]

00:21:751 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Que dis tu de ceci a la place ? Je pense que ça colle mieux au rythme général.

01:05:898 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179) - Faire ddk k ddddk rend mieux a mon avis.

02:58:946 (109) - Pourquoi pas déplacer cette note a 02:58:459 - ? Un quintuplet qui overlap sur le gros tick blanc rend pas ouf je trouve, et casse un peu le rythme crée avant. Ca permettrait aussi d'accentuer ces deux notes 02:59:068 (110,111) -

[Inner Oni]

00:41:629 (93) - Supprime cette note et met un d a 00:41:873 - ?

01:22:483 (295,296,297,298,299,300,301) - Un peu moche ce pattern ça me fait penser a Verdi Kappa. kdkkdkd a la place me parait mieux

02:55:044 (107) - Supprime cette note ? Je pense qu'avoir un quintuplet avant un stream de plus de 5 notes dessert un peu ce dernier. T'as mieux fait d'avoir triplet + une note 1/2 + stream pour de la mise en valeur. (03:06:020 (175) - Ici aussi par exemple etc)


Bon la quasi totalité de mes suggestions sont valables pour d'autres endroits de la musique oublie pas.

Bonne chance
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Arrival wrote:

salu pierre yves thomas :japanese_goblin:

[General]

Rajoute k-pop et SM Entertainment (leur label) dans les tags oké

Peut etre OD 2.5 / 3 pour la Kantan / 3.5 pour la Futsuu / 4.5 pour la Muzu ?
Considère vivement 5.5 pour la Inner. OD 6 123 BPM ça fait du OD 9 185BPM en DT..... Ok pour le 5.5 Pour le reste, je garde mes standards (TG yael)


[Kantan]

00:49:556 - Rajoute une note ici ? Sachant que tu as un break 4/1 après, et que a correspond au pattern 00:42:239 (27,28,29,30,31) - (et ici aussi du coup 01:51:995 - )

02:35:410 - Spinner ici ? On a deja un bon break 4/1 avant, le joueur connait la musique, c'est que bénéfique.

All fixed

[Futsuu]

00:37:605 (35) - A déplacer a 00:38:093 - plutot ? Ca rend mieux imo

01:08:581 (113,114,115,116) - A la place de ça qui est un peu boring a jouer, pourquoi pas un 3/2 ? Peut etre pas obligé de le mettre pour chaque autre pattern, mais genre 1 fois sur 2 c'est peut etre intéréssant.

All Denied, pour le premier, les deux sont décents, mais je préfère éviter la confusion du aux vocals qui sont un peu 1/4 dans les endroits mentionnés. Et pour le second, ca va over exploser le SR et tout le monde va QQ.


[Muzukashii]

01:22:483 (207) - Triplet ici ? Ca fait un peu tout much, à voir selon les avis.

02:29:312 - Rajouter un kat ici rendrait bien. Yee

03:06:385 (120) - J'aime pas trop ce genre de suggestions, mais change ça en k, car ça va vraiment mieux avec le vocal, et synergise bien avec le pattern k k ddd juste avant. Aussi d'accord

03:31:385 (212) - Je conseille un doublet dk ici. Mais simple suggestion A voir ouais, c'est décent mais pas nécéssaire.

[Oni]

00:21:751 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Que dis tu de ceci a la place ? Je pense que ça colle mieux au rythme général.

Tu met a des endroits :ok_hand: pour en enlver à des endroits :japanese_goblin:, en vrai ca aurait pu être correct sauf que tu veux délete la ou y'a du triple vocal a sniper ez.

01:05:898 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179) - Faire ddk k ddddk rend mieux a mon avis.

T'es pas en accord avec ton image mais ce que tu me donne me va parce que j'ai fait un peu trop dans ces endroits comparé aux kiai.


02:58:946 (109) - Pourquoi pas déplacer cette note a 02:58:459 - ? Un quintuplet qui overlap sur le gros tick blanc rend pas ouf je trouve, et casse un peu le rythme crée avant. Ca permettrait aussi d'accentuer ces deux notes 02:59:068 (110,111) - Alors le coup du tick blanc, j'en ai un peu partout ici :joy:, par contre le coup du double k en valeur me va.

[Inner Oni]

00:41:629 (93) - Supprime cette note et met un d a 00:41:873 - ? Non, j'aime ces kkd kkd stuffs. Ca va bien avec ma vision de la choré (AYY AYY LMAO COREE GET IT?)

01:22:483 (295,296,297,298,299,300,301) - Un peu moche ce pattern ça me fait penser a Verdi Kappa. kdkkdkd a la place me parait mieux C'toi le verdi, actually ca colle avec la song xd

02:55:044 (107) - Supprime cette note ? Je pense qu'avoir un quintuplet avant un stream de plus de 5 notes dessert un peu ce dernier. T'as mieux fait d'avoir triplet + une note 1/2 + stream pour de la mise en valeur. (03:06:020 (175) - Ici aussi par exemple etc) J'ai fais ce que j'ai pu, par contre j'ai agrandi le stream de fin parce que tu la mérité.


Bon la quasi totalité de mes suggestions sont valables pour d'autres endroits de la musique oublie pas.

Bonne chance
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Inner Oni
00:31:020 (44) - d>k
00:32:483 (50,51,52,53) - kkd k
00:33:459 (54,55,56,57) - ddd k or dkd k
00:38:093 - just kd?
00:40:044 - dk
00:45:898 - kd
00:46:385 - dkd or kdk
00:47:849 - kd
00:55:410 (154) - k>d
00:55:898 (155) - k>d
00:59:312 (174) - k>d
01:04:190 (196) - k>d

01:31:507 (330) - k>d
01:34:922 (346,347,348,349) - kdd k
01:35:898 (350,351,352,353) - kkd k
01:36:873 (354,355,356,357,358) - kdddk

01:40:532 - kd
01:42:483 - dk
01:42:971 - dkd kdk kdd
01:48:093 - kkdk
01:50:044 - kdkd
01:57:849 (453,454) - k>d

02:01:507 (473,474,475) - ddk?
02:06:629 (501) - k>d

02:40:776 (23,24) - k>d
02:49:556 (73) - k>d
03:04:068 (161) - d>k
03:06:385 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186) - kdddkdkdkkdd
03:07:849 (187,188,189,190,191) - kkddk or kdkdk or ddkdk
03:18:580 (241,242,243,244,245) - dkkdk

03:26:873 (281) - k>d
03:27:361 (282,283,284) - k d k
Oni , Muzu
*you can put more note for this diff (oni) ?_? and Muzu little more?_?_?_?_?
(( feel tooo easy DX
Fustuu
01:37:361 (189) - k>d
02:12:239 (275,276,277) - 02:16:142 (287,288,289) - d k d?
01:00:288 (90,91,92) - 02:02:727 (248,249,250) - 02:45:654 (24,25,26) - k k d
gooood luck and EXPLOSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Fantazy wrote:

hihi~~~
Inner Oni
00:31:020 (44) - d>k
00:32:483 (50,51,52,53) - kkd k
00:33:459 (54,55,56,57) - ddd k or dkd k
00:38:093 - just kd?
00:40:044 - dk
00:45:898 - kd
00:46:385 - dkd or kdk
00:47:849 - kd
00:55:410 (154) - k>d
00:55:898 (155) - k>d
00:59:312 (174) - k>d
01:04:190 (196) - k>d

01:31:507 (330) - k>d
01:34:922 (346,347,348,349) - kdd k
01:35:898 (350,351,352,353) - kkd k
01:36:873 (354,355,356,357,358) - kdddk

01:40:532 - kd
01:42:483 - dk
01:42:971 - dkd kdk kdd
01:48:093 - kkdk
01:50:044 - kdkd
01:57:849 (453,454) - k>d

02:01:507 (473,474,475) - ddk?
02:06:629 (501) - k>d

02:40:776 (23,24) - k>d
02:49:556 (73) - k>d
03:04:068 (161) - d>k
03:06:385 (175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186) - kdddkdkdkkdd
03:07:849 (187,188,189,190,191) - kkddk or kdkdk or ddkdk
03:18:580 (241,242,243,244,245) - dkkdk

03:26:873 (281) - k>d
03:27:361 (282,283,284) - k d k

All denied, some parts would have been changed without considering how the patterns are made (you may have not noticed that patterns like 01:09:800 (229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239) - are mirrored every time and you're gonna break it).

Oni , Muzu
*you can put more note for this diff (oni) ?_? and Muzu little more?_?_?_?_?
(( feel tooo easy DX

This is why an Inner Oni has been made, else -> DT since the BPM is low 8)

Fustuu
01:37:361 (189) - k>d
02:12:239 (275,276,277) - 02:16:142 (287,288,289) - d k d?
01:00:288 (90,91,92) - 02:02:727 (248,249,250) - 02:45:654 (24,25,26) - k k d

Not felt the utility

gooood luck and EXPLOSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the mod, but because you didn't give any explanation, i'm keeping with my version, i can trust only myself if it's good or bad without argues from your side.
Kin
cc, le revive

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:40:044 (82,83,84) - since you're following the vocal, I think it should be better to have the emphasis on this note 00:40:166 (83) - instead of this one 00:40:288 (84) - . So, how about changing into dkd ? (you also used it here 01:42:483 (381,382,383) - )
  2. if you've fixed it ^ : also same thing here 00:47:849 (118,119,120) - . Since the music is also the same & you're using the same mimic.
  3. 00:54:190 (150,151,152,153,154) - I'd suggest kdkdd since your pattern was following the vocal, but I think you want to make it different from this 00:58:093 (170,171,172,173,174) -
  4. 01:01:995 (190,191,192,193,194) - I think changing this into a kkdkd or another pattern which have this note 01:02:483 (194) - as a d ; would enhance the emphasis here 01:02:727 (195) -
  5. I think, it'd be better to make those 2 notes 01:52:361 (429,430) - different. I'll make 01:52:483 (430) - more emphasized.
  6. 03:19:556 (247,248,249,250,251) - I really prefer the ddkdk pattern here instead of kdddk. You used a lot this pattern to represent this kind of vocal. (tho, i can understand you want to change some pattern to have a more unique map)

[Oni]

  1. 01:04:434 (166,167,168,169,170,171) - Maybe change it to kkddk d instead of kkd kkd ? I think it goes better with the vocal.
  2. 02:44:922 (39) - maybe delete this note ? Since you have an 1/1 break here 02:42:483 -

[Muzukashii]

  1. 01:25:654 (217) - maybe just me, but I think this one as k flow better.

[Futsuu]

  1. I've seen, you're really mapping the vocal. So, maybe don't skip this vocal ? 01:08:337 - or add a k here 01:08:093 - since you use it here : 01:11:995 (124) - 01:15:898 (136) - 01:19:800 (148) -
Bon, après, sur la Kantan, y a genre pas grand chose à dire. C'est une kantan quoi.
jtm bb.
Topic Starter
Aldwych

Kin wrote:

cc, le revive

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:40:044 (82,83,84) - since you're following the vocal, I think it should be better to have the emphasis on this note 00:40:166 (83) - instead of this one 00:40:288 (84) - . So, how about changing into dkd ? (you also used it here 01:42:483 (381,382,383) - )
  2. if you've fixed it ^ : also same thing here 00:47:849 (118,119,120) - . Since the music is also the same & you're using the same mimic. Agreed, but also the next triple (as you may see, i use twice similar triples on these sections).
  3. 00:54:190 (150,151,152,153,154) - I'd suggest kdkdd since your pattern was following the vocal, but I think you want to make it different from this 00:58:093 (170,171,172,173,174) - It's ok
  4. 01:01:995 (190,191,192,193,194) - I think changing this into a kkdkd or another pattern which have this note 01:02:483 (194) - as a d ; would enhance the emphasis here 01:02:727 (195) - Totally agreed
  5. I think, it'd be better to make those 2 notes 01:52:361 (429,430) - different. I'll make 01:52:483 (430) - more emphasized. Yep, kkdkd then
  6. 03:19:556 (247,248,249,250,251) - I really prefer the ddkdk pattern here instead of kdddk. You used a lot this pattern to represent this kind of vocal. (tho, i can understand you want to change some pattern to have a more unique map)
    Nope, i'll keep the mirors patterns until the end.

[Oni]

  1. 01:04:434 (166,167,168,169,170,171) - Maybe change it to kkddk d instead of kkd kkd ? I think it goes better with the vocal. Looks better yeah
  2. 02:44:922 (39) - maybe delete this note ? Since you have an 1/1 break here 02:42:483 - Done

[Muzukashii]

  1. 01:25:654 (217) - maybe just me, but I think this one as k flow better. It shoould have been since the others are k.

[Futsuu]

  1. I've seen, you're really mapping the vocal. So, maybe don't skip this vocal ? 01:08:337 - or add a k here 01:08:093 - since you use it here : 01:11:995 (124) - 01:15:898 (136) - 01:19:800 (148) - The breaks boi : ok_hand : :100:

Bon, après, sur la Kantan, y a genre pas grand chose à dire. C'est une kantan quoi.
jtm bb.
Moi aussi jtm <3
Merci pour le mod il est top kek.
Kin
some minor change + fixed overlap on 02:36:629 -
here you go!
Surono
soon(tm)

"sasageyohhhh sasa-- salsa, dem " dem annyeonghaseyo
Topic Starter
Aldwych
:eyes:
Surono
no kd

OD2 for what in nowadays...... kantan change to OD 3 then Futsuu change to OD 3.5

* for oni, 00:28:581 - kkd k, need variation here.
* for futsuu, 00:47:361 - don this, same reason above and here I think is overdone with emphasize
* 00:33:946 - add don for kantan, see the futsuu
* 01:40:044 - no clap, don it for futsuu
* 02:32:483 - try slider for muzukashii?
* 03:29:312 - delete for muzukashii
* 02:56:629 - for kantan, try to add here notes and similar spot? since its slow bpm and futsuu has lonnngg pattern. would be challenging for babies~

dkk loverz :tank:
Topic Starter
Aldwych
xdDdD

Surono wrote:

no kd

OD2 for what in nowadays...... kantan change to OD 3 then Futsuu change to OD 3.5 OD 2 in 2k17 lulz

* for oni, 00:28:581 - kkd k, need variation here. nye i agree
* for futsuu, 00:47:361 - don this, same reason above and here I think is overdone with emphasize Dem clap in the song ' L_'
* 00:33:946 - add don for kantan, see the futsuu Only if i don 00:32:971 - here aswell ' L_'
* 01:40:044 - no clap, don it for futsuu don
* 02:32:483 - try slider for muzukashii? Why nut, but i keep 02:33:459 (440) -
* 03:29:312 - delete for muzukashii Should be weird to read.
* 02:56:629 - for kantan, try to add here notes and similar spot? since its slow bpm and futsuu has lonnngg pattern. would be challenging for babies~ Don't feel it necessary, also it should be odd having 1/2 at final part, it's like adding 1/4 on futsuu too :x

dkk loverz :tank:
Korean loli train inc!
Surono

Aldwych wrote:

Korean loli train inc!


rip animemes song or idk, ~genie for ya boiz~~


31th May is HBD of this map?!?! too early lmao
Charlotte
Congratz~~ 8-)
IamKwaN
Can someone explain me the title please? Where did you find it?
Topic Starter
Aldwych
IamKwaN
May I have something official, please?
Kurai
Girls' Generation's Official website: http://girlsgeneration.smtown.com/Disco ... 148?page=6 (some music may randomly play).
IamKwaN
So, 소원을 말해봐 is the Unicode Title and Genie is the Romanised Title?
Kurai
No, 소원을 말해봐 (Genie) is the unicode title. Romanised would be "Sowoneul malhaebwa (Genie)" but they use the direct translation "Tell Me Your Wish (Genie)" in international charts, on YouTube and everywhere else.
IamKwaN
I really doubt, according to your logic, Unicode Artist should be Girls' Generation(소녀시대) then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SwiSpudKWI
Kurai
YouTube is not a viable source. I just mentionned it to say that K-Pop producers usually translate their song titles in order to reach an international audience. Also "소녀시대" is "Girls' Generation", which would make no sense to merge together.
IamKwaN
The Youtube video I linked is official, it's from SMTown (probably an old account though).

Also, in the Japanese version Genie single, the song is named as GENIE [KOREAN VER.], I don't know where Tell Me Your Wish comes from, the song is named/translated as exactly Genie.

http://www.girls-generation.jp/CMIYC/di ... raphy.html
Kurai
"Genie" is the Japanese name of the song, the original was released as Genie [Korean Ver.] in Japan I believe for the sake of consistency.

Also: "Tell Me Your Wish (Genie)" [...] It was released on June 22, 2009 as a single from the EP. Written by Dsign Music, Fridolin Nordso Schjoldan, and Yoo Young-jin, and produced by Young-jin, the song is the group's first collaboration with Western composers and producers, which was later encouraged towards their future music.

http://dsignmusic.com/album/tell-me-your-wish-genie/
Topic Starter
Aldwych
So according to your logic, Youtube is more official than Wikipedia.

Maxus
Wikipedia isn't official though, it is a website where literally anyone can edit the information, hence why it's unofficial.
While the youtube link provided by KwaN is directly from the producer company (look at the channel, it has "verified" status in it) and cannot be edited by anyone except the official people , hence why it's official.
Kurai

Maxus wrote:

Wikipedia isn't official though, it is a website where literally anyone can edit the information, hence why it's unofficial.
While the youtube link provided by KwaN is directly from the producer company (look at the channel, it has "verified" status in it) and cannot be edited by anyone except the official people , hence why it's official.
However Wikipedia has sources and is rarely wrong. Though I agree we cannot always be 100% sure unless we dig in all the sources.

The song title on YouTube is written in a way so that everyone can easily search and find it, that is why you have Girls' Generation in roman letters and 소녀시대 in Hangul put next to one another. I wouldn't consider the YouTube video name as a reliable source.
Topic Starter
Aldwych
Also i'm curious about what would you replace on the title.

You can go in every lyric site (ex : https://colorcodedlyrics.com/2010/06/gi ... wish-genie)
And see that 소원을 말해 봐 is Tell me your wish.
Natsu
http://girlsgeneration.smtown.com/Disco ... 148?page=6 Girl Generation usually release songs like that, 소원을 말해봐 (Genie)
for get more audience from other countries, so it should be correct.

btw from where you took the translated title, It's official?
Mint

Aldwych wrote:

So according to your logic, Youtube is more official than Wikipedia.

Why shouldn't it be, may I ask? The people who uploaded that video (and therefore decided the title) are either the record label/company or artist themselves. That is in no way the case for Wikipedia.
Topic Starter
Aldwych
@Natsu, you can find it on every translated lyrics site, google translate, osu Genie map ranked, my Korean teacher back in the days. Tho' they are not """"""""""""""""""""official"""""""""""""""""""""", i don't think it's an incorrect one.

Should we call Euny/Spectator to be sure at 15641631546456456% it's correct?

Why shouldn't it be, may I ask? The people who uploaded that video (and therefore decided the title) are either the record label/company or artist themselves.
Tho we can agree on the argument, I rejoin Kurai's points on youtube searches
Natsu

Aldwych wrote:

@Natsu, you can find it on every translated lyrics site, google translate, osu Genie map ranked, my Korean teacher back in the days. Tho' they are not """"""""""""""""""""official"""""""""""""""""""""", i don't think it's an incorrect one.

Should we call Euny/Spectator to be sure at 15641631546456456% it's correct?
the title is correct, I was just wonder if the romanized way would be better? Sowoneul Malhaebwa (Genie) not sure tbh, I asked Euny already, but she also don't know.

Just call Sonnyc!
Topic Starter
Aldwych
pm'ed

I was just wonder if the romanized way would be better? Sowoneul Malhaebwa (Genie)
But what would it mean concretly, the non korean wouldn't know what does it means.

Edit : From sonnyc
IamKwaN
Then we have solved this! Thanks guys
tit
An actual taiko I liked :?: :!: :?:
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