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Ayase Rie - Yuima-ru*World TVver.

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-Atri-
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-Atri-
Ok, i look though the entire thread, but what you replied is the reason of space increasing behind 00:18:059 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - , Which i kinda accept since the pitch is aggressively higher

However, i looked it down and i don't see any explanation behind the space decrease on 00:20:059 (1,2) - , despite it's stronger then 00:19:725 (1,2) - , making the buildup doesn't very smooth there

I do see that you split both patterns by ignoring 00:19:559 - , however, i think it can achieve the same objective by remapping the pattern on 00:19:725 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - without ignoring an obvious drum sound 00:19:559 - , with a sound that is so obvious it shouldn't be ignored, the drum sound still plays as a important beat

P.S. i can play those buildup jumps easily

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5876125

Whatever, i don't wanna make the drama too long
Vyshus
16 posts
Joined January 2016
Vyshus
If this gets ranked, we have the proof that something is wrong with mapping...
Fycho
Global Moderator
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Topic Starter
Fycho
@KuranteMelodii, not sure why you consider this as drama, it's just community's question about the map. since it's your personal opinion and I've replied to these above, for the case that you can't understand it, I will make a chinese post to you and seems you know it.


我已经说过了，00:19:559 - 这个空拍是给大跳后预留的停顿感，作图只考虑适合曲子不考虑打图感觉是十分不对的，我作图会去考虑打图感觉，你不会，你也不能强求别人的作图想法去刻意迎合你自己的观点，我四五十张图做过去了，你要的话我可以从我过去的图里一处处给你挑我以前类似的做法，只要你不嫌麻烦阅读的话，我可以给你个十分大段来解释。00:19:725 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这一段曲子已经从低到高，他本身就在高位，这00:20:059 (1,2) - 个间距不算降低，因为他们在general上是相似间距，所以并没有什么不好，而且这种十字跳打起来更难一点，从难度上，难，对应着更高昂的曲子 并没有什么不合理。
Easy
109 posts
Joined December 2014
Easy
Just rank this map...
:?
lLinutionHD
lLinutionHD
even when they are updating the map?
- Ed -
56 posts
Joined July 2014
- Ed -
Rip, I really liked the song too :cry:
A r M i N
1,305 posts
Joined October 2014
A r M i N
Touchscreen players are gonna have fun
Mafumafu
Nomination Assessment Team
3,372 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
[Easy]
00:16:892 (1) - This plays a bit weird. The drums and vocals are clearly audible so it may not be a nice choice to place spinner here. If you are worrying about if it would be too short if make the spinner like the Normal then maybe just do not use spinners.

[Hard]
00:42:392 (2) - Use triplet here

[Insane]
00:20:059 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe slightly reduce the spacings for those square notes? Really hard.
00:27:892 (3) - It would be nicer flow if 3 were placed on the left of 2

[Extra]
00:19:392 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Slightly reduce the spacings?
00:37:225 (4,2) - avoid this overlap?

Call me back >w<
Fycho
Global Moderator
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Topic Starter
Fycho

Regraz wrote:

[Easy]
00:16:892 (1) - This plays a bit weird. The drums and vocals are clearly audible so it may not be a nice choice to place spinner here. If you are worrying about if it would be too short if make the spinner like the Normal then maybe just do not use spinners. keep a spinner, consider it's the easiest diff, so I'd simplify the rhythm

[Hard]
00:42:392 (2) - Use triplet here the hard is pretty easy, so I am not planning to use triplets

[Insane]
00:20:059 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe slightly reduce the spacings for those square notes? Really hard. this is extra diff lol, slight reduced a bit
00:27:892 (3) - It would be nicer flow if 3 were placed on the left of 2imo current one play well and natural

[Extra]
00:19:392 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Slightly reduce the spacings?k
00:37:225 (4,2) - avoid this overlap?k

Call me back >w<
Thanks!
Underforest
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Underforest
nice to see this back
Mafumafu
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
Seems good to me!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
Checked this over again, and discussed some jumps further with Fycho. I'm going to rebubble this and let Regraz qualify. We made a few changes to jumps too, so it might be better to rebubble anyways.

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18:22 Monstrata: 00:24:559 (2,1) - Can use more emphasis. Compare it to 00:32:559 (2,1) - 00:35:225 (2,1) -
18:25 Fycho: slightly increased the space
18:25 Fycho: but not to make it too hard, i want the second part of kiai harder than first one
18:31 Monstrata: 00:03:392 (1,2) - Not relaly getting what layer this is following.. vocals? or drums? because all the other notes in this combo are vocal
18:31 Monstrata: 00:03:559 (2) - But theres no vocal here. it's like what you did with 00:04:892 -
18:32 Fycho: follow both drum + vocal
18:33 Fycho: I feel like there is a vocal there too, yu u u chi
18:33 Fycho: the four pronunciation
18:35 Monstrata: mmm doesn't sound like it xPP. i mean, theres definitely a drum there tho, but its like you switch from drum > piano mid combo so it becomes unclear whether you wanted to focus on vocals or drums there. mapping both is uh idk... i think sometimes its fine, but when there are different rhythms, it becomes confusing
18:35 Monstrata: anyways also 00:32:725 (1,2) - jump is really big tbh xP
18:36 Monstrata: mmm its hard to set up ain increased spacing concept for the second half of the kiai tho
18:36 Monstrata: with such a short song xD
18:36 Fycho: hmm considering they are slider jump and SV speeded
18:36 Fycho: they are not that hard imo
18:37 Fycho: so I split a KIAI to two parts:P
18:38 Fycho: two KIAI uses similar space would be boring D:\
18:38 Monstrata: yea. i agree tbh, cuz i like to do that with my maps too. I did that with Inferno haha. but it does feel a bit forced when you only have like 45 seconds to work with ;c. anyways hmm
18:39 Monstrata: 00:32:725 (1) - Try Ctrl+G, then rotate 180 degrees from selection centre
18:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/rbCzD.jpg
18:39 Monstrata: I think what i dislike most about is is that its a jump + really sharp angle from 00:32:559 (2,1) -
18:40 Monstrata: if you do above, the spacing and flowbreak will be more similar to 00:35:225 (2,1) - imo
18:40 Monstrata: cuz right now it feels like the spacing gets smaller
18:42 Fycho: yes
18:42 Fycho: ctrl+g 00:32:725 (1,2) - , tho I think the emphasis of 00:32:725 - will be a loss
18:43 Fycho: anyway I ctrl'd, that plays more natural
18:46 Monstrata: okay
18:46 Monstrata: I guess thats all for Ultimate
18:46 Monstrata: Extra - 00:19:392 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these are so big xPPP like even compared to Ultimate
18:46 Monstrata: Ultimate isn't as big
18:47 Fycho: hmm at least it's extra, without that the diff is not like extra
18:47 Monstrata: you can still make it smaller imo...
18:47 Monstrata: it'll still be an extra if spacing isn't that big
18:48 Fycho: so I made UL space larger, okay?
18:51 Monstrata: no
18:51 Monstrata: pls
18:51 Monstrata: xd
18:51 Monstrata: Extra's spacing atm is too big, because comparing 00:19:392 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - to 00:40:725 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
18:52 Monstrata: its clear the first one is more difficult, but you wanted a concept where Kiai was more difficult no?
18:54 Fycho: well decreased
18:54 Fycho: and added a circle to UL diff at 00:19:559 -
18:55 Monstrata: ehh
18:56 Monstrata: did you have to add circle? UL was fine without it tbh
18:56 Fycho: a ok
18:57 Fycho: after second thinking I decided not add
18:57 Monstrata: okay lol
18:57 Monstrata: u know ppl are still gonna complain about the jumps etc... lol
18:57 Monstrata: but meh
18:57 Fycho: let them complain
18:57 Monstrata: i think it should be fine now
18:58 Fycho: we cant satisfied everyone
18:58 Fycho: satisfy*
18:58 Monstrata: yep. but still have to satisfy some
18:58 Fycho: you know, there are people like it
18:58 Fycho: and people hate it
18:58 Monstrata: anyways lemme just go through lower diffs really quick.
18:58 Fycho: like the superstar
18:58 Monstrata: mmhmm
18:59 Monstrata: i know xD i ranked relaly controversial maps too haha
18:59 Fycho: there isn't anything changed in lower diff tho, but please
19:00 Fycho: the community is fulled with fucktard, so we could only map for ourselves and most people or people that dont like to complain
19:00 Monstrata: yep xP
19:00 Monstrata: mmm okay seems fine
19:00 *Monstrata is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/983692 Ayase Rie - Yuima-ru*World TVver. [Insane]]
19:01 Monstrata: im going to delete and refl
19:01 Monstrata: redl*
19:01 Monstrata: you can update now
19:01 Fycho: $this->update()
19:03 Fycho: echo finished
19:03 Fycho: you can redl now
19:04 Monstrata: 00:21:225 (1) - NC is intentional? On Extra
19:04 Monstrata: other diffs don't NC. just doublechecking
19:05 Fycho: ok, removed NC
19:05 Monstrata: lemme check aibat for dum stnapping stuff
19:06 Monstrata: okay looks good
Mafumafu
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Mafumafu
OK!
Fycho
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Fycho
Thank you both!
lLinutionHD
lLinutionHD
Astar
Former osu! Champion: 2017
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Astar
Are you serious with this BG?
moya
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moya
nice bg, i too love toddlers in bikinis
- Ed -
56 posts
Joined July 2014
- Ed -
Yay!!! It's back :3
moya
205 posts
Joined November 2014
moya

edgerrdz wrote:

Yay!!! It's back :3
yo man do you like toddlers in bikinis too? that map bg is a masterpiece!!!!
pocket-Gao
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pocket-Gao
some male chauvinists

可爱BG 支持
moya
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moya

pocket-Gao wrote:

some male chauvinists

可爱BG 支持
yo do you like toddlers in bikinis too
-NanoRIPE-
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-NanoRIPE-
Grats!! ~
fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
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Joined November 2013
fieryrage
while i'm glad the absolutely atrocious back and forths in the kiai were nerfed i still dont think this map should have a six star diff to begin with

but im trying to rank cory in the house with one so ya i dont really have a say there

gz
Spaghetti
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Spaghetti
nothing new
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- Ed -
56 posts
Joined July 2014
- Ed -

Fyre wrote:

edgerrdz wrote:

Yay!!! It's back :3
yo man do you like toddlers in bikinis too? that map bg is a masterpiece!!!!
Yes.

fieryrage wrote:

while i'm glad the absolutely atrocious back and forths in the kiai were nerfed i still dont think this map should have a six star diff to begin with

but im trying to rank cory in the house with one so ya i dont really have a say there

gz
Hope that gets ranked too :3
Mismagius
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Mismagius
this mp3 quality is pretty bad. was there really no other mp3 available?

no other comments on the mapping, i believe the community is saying it better than me.
Fycho
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Fycho
about mp3 quality, i've explained in this post: p/5382002
Illyasviel
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Illyasviel
I'm a bit late, but I guess next time you could always ask me for mp3 sources.

http://puu.sh/rn7nD/8df7da6d1f.MP3
those
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those
Lol it's like people don't understand the purpose of the qualification system.
_DT3
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_DT3
Damn, wtf is that play count
CSLM
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Joined May 2013
CSLM
It is normal that i downloaded with video but the video is not in any of the diffs? :/
Imgs


Lasse
osu! Alumni
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Lasse

CSLM wrote:

It is normal that i downloaded with video but the video is not in any of the diffs? :/

video thing is not normal

but I just tried and it happens for me too??
https://streamable.com/040k

Stable (Latest)
same happens when I download it from the website

always looks like this on every diff:
[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"haitainanafa.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

seems like the video file was actually included but never added to the diffs?

well, guess it's too late now anyways
if you really need the video to play this (lol) you can just download this osb and put it in the map folder:
Ayase Rie - Yuima-ruWorld TVver. (Fycho).osb
(offset is probably wrong since I just set it to 0, but you can change that in the file)
pkhg
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pkhg
ppl like loctav and peppy can update ranked maps. adding a .osb file with the video stuff might fix it without affecting scores
-Makishima S-
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Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
Adding to discussion - personaly i find background as disturbing and an unrankable issue:



4 underaged girls together in a pool.
Two of them in very questionable position.

I would like to mention that in the past maps was DQ/Nuked for similar background pictures.
In some countries, this one qualify into law enforcment as pedophile issue.

Sorry but i find this as very unrankable issue which should be solved BEFORE this got ranked, yet nobody reacted.
If ppy/Loctav can update map files, i would suggest to remove this background for good sake of this game and players.
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Stefan
Don't make me lock the threads because you haven't reported these "issues" how you want to call them, before it has been moved to ranked.

pkhg wrote:

ppl like loctav and peppy can update ranked maps. adding a .osb file with the video stuff might fix it without affecting scores
I think it won't affect the scores, it just requires an update, like if the map was in pending.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Joined February 2009
Loctav
Seems like the video was never added to the difficulties, so I will look into removing the video file from the .osz (preferred solution)

The BG is absolutely fine by the way. Four children playing in a pool wearing bathing suits that are having a modest design and clothing the children modestly is fine. I also see no intend of sexual arousal in this image, rather seeing four children having fun (the innocent kind)

Now calm your nuggets.
hehe
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hehe
grats flyball
Shiirn
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Shiirn
The easiest way to see if an image is sexualized is to see whether there are any clearly defined sexual characteristics in the image. This includes, but is not limited to, nipple buds, cameltoes, overly bulging breasts or buttocks, and provocative poses. To an extent, this includes males as well, but by its nature is far rarer.

This BG image contains none of that, it's just some children. If you think it's dirty, it's because you're a hypocrite who spends too much time guiltily browsing "nothing" on google. It's a bit of an incredible stretch to claim that any of them are in provocative poses, as well.


The map itself is boring, with no interesting content whatsoever, but that doesn't make it unrankable.
Seni
715 posts
Joined August 2014
Seni

Loctav wrote:

I also see no intend of sexual arousal in this image.

how is that even possible




Shiirn wrote:

If you think it's dirty, it's because you're a hypocrite who spends too much time guiltily browsing "nothing" on google.

>guiltily

fucking implying
MJGHD
30 posts
Joined January 2015
MJGHD

Loctav wrote:

I also see no intend of sexual arousal in this image
The girl on the right hand side is really questionable. With shit like this, it's better safe than sorry.
Shiirn
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Joined August 2010
Shiirn
are people seriously equating a kid kneeling over the edge of a kiddie pool as a sexual offering pose?



the fuck is wrong with you people
Pachiru
osu! Alumni
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Pachiru

Loctav wrote:

The BG is absolutely fine by the way. Four children playing in a pool wearing bathing suits that are having a modest design and clothing the children modestly is fine. I also see no intend of sexual arousal in this image, rather seeing four children having fun (the innocent kind)

Now calm your nuggets.
Teh God has spoken
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Losing faith in humanity for good in 3 2 1
7ambda
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7ambda

Shiirn wrote:

are people seriously equating a kid kneeling over the edge of a kiddie pool as a sexual offering pose?



the fuck is wrong with you people
This is the osu! community you're talking about, where the 99% have anime girl avatars. It shouldn't come as a surprise.
Underforest
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Underforest

Shiirn wrote:

are people seriously equating a kid kneeling over the edge of a kiddie pool as a sexual offering pose?



the fuck is wrong with you people
I also can't understand that :/
Spaghetti
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Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
this community rn
pregnant_man
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pregnant_man

Shiirn wrote:

are people seriously equating a kid kneeling over the edge of a kiddie pool as a sexual offering pose?



the fuck is wrong with you people
call this haitainum cerebrum
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DeletedUser_6709840
I dont see anything wrong with the BG but some cultures might find it offensive
riffy
osu! Alumni
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riffy

Loctav wrote:

Now calm your nuggets.
Just a reminder, chill out.
goink
104 posts
Joined September 2012
goink
ok it was funny at first why is this still ranked
ignore
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ignore
900pp C rank
I wish this map was never made
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