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Chaoslitz

kunkakunkakunkakunka wrote:

Hi.
Random short mod.
Ifuuidol

  1. 01:17:804 (3) - NC? k
  2. 01:28:535 - I recommend that I pick up this sound. Would you change the 01:28:419 (5) - to the 1/4 slider, or add a circle? same as 00:43:650 (5,6,7,8) - , this map is tend to follow the vocal more o.o
  3. 02:14:804 (6) - I think that whistle is necessary. 02:18:266 (5,6) - same added in 02:18:266 (5) -
  4. 02:33:496 (1) - Would you add whistle? I don't think it is necessary..
  5. 03:15:958 (1,2) - I didn't feel the need that 03:15:958 (1) - is a slider. Rather I recommend that I pick it up in the same way as 03:16:650 (3,4,5) - . http://puu.sh/oGw8E.jpg just because I want to have something different :3
Collab Hard

  1. 00:21:727 (4,5) - I recommend ctrl+G. I think that it is better to set a slider in the up beat (white-line). 00:24:266 (6,1) - same (down beat) sure
  2. 02:26:343 (2,3) - ^ I focus on mapping vocal here
  3. 03:01:419 (8) - I don't understand the reason of the jump of this circle... fixed
Nice BG! gl ;)

Karen wrote:

Ifuuidol
  1. 01:06:727 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里应该换轨了,跟vocal听很奇怪,背景音比vocal强很多
  2. 02:45:496 (4,5) - 类似这样的地方你都是分开的,这里为了stack所以碰到一起了吧,我觉得保持前后一致比较好 這應該不用分開啊, 跟00:58:419 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 01:44:573 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 一樣
  3. 03:15:958 - 这里感觉不用跟了,应该03:16:189 - 这里有打击感,滑条开头 我是覺得放4個1/4打起來有點單調所以這樣做了
Collab Hard
  1. 01:07:189 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 这里和insane一样,而且这里也没跟vocal,那就真的看不懂了,01:09:150 - 尤其这里 hard全部都改了
  2. 01:12:612 - 这怎么可以不跟呢,01:10:766 - 这里都跟了,一听就听出来违和
  3. 01:16:881 (5) - 一个长滑条就够了,不用理会背景那个duuuuu的声音
  4. 01:19:650 (1) - 红tick上有明显的伴奏和人声,强行3/4不妥
  5. 01:43:189 (6) - 这也可以和前面一样1/4折返01:41:343 (6) -
  6. 01:46:881 (4) - ^
  7. 02:29:804 (1,2) - 这个在hard里有点难读,建议还是overlap好
  8. 02:33:266 - 这里背景音非常突出这里漏掉有点不好。不适合跟vocal
  9. 02:47:804 (4) - 为何不用1/4滑条呢

lower diffs are fine
Thanks >.<
Karen
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Chaoslitz wrote:

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We did IRC:
No.1
12:47 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959147 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Easy]]
12:47 ByBy13: 00:25:189 (4,1)- spacing
12:47 ByBy13: :c
12:48 Chaoslitz: ok
12:50 Chaoslitz: ahh one more thing i guess i didnt fix the preview point after changing the mp3
12:50 Chaoslitz: i will fix it now
12:51 ByBy13: oki
12:56 ByBy13: the offset can be 11,353
12:58 Chaoslitz: ok
12:59 ByBy13: 00
12:59 Chaoslitz: ok i have to fix the preview point again lol
12:59 ByBy13: 00:44:583 (1)- you can have an 3/2 slider with repeat because i don't see any extension in vocal if you are following it
13:01 ByBy13: 00:46:429 (2)- its tail sounds like is snapped wrongly.you have to snap it on 1/8 but i suggest to find another solution to make something still friendly for newbie players
13:02 Chaoslitz: hmm i guess i will do the same thing for 00:46:429 (3) -
13:02 ByBy13: okay
13:02 ByBy13: o.o
13:02 Chaoslitz: at least i can have an emphasize on 00:47:122 -
13:02 ByBy13: yes
13:05 Chaoslitz: ok fixed
13:07 ByBy13: 01:28:891 (1,2)- Having a rhythm like this one doesn't make really more sense to the vocal because it follows the vocal weird.You can do a rhythm like this one: note + note + 1/1 slider
13:07 ByBy13: to follow the vocal much better than before
13:08 Chaoslitz: i will just follow the i have fixed in 00:44:583 (1) -
13:09 ByBy13: oki

No.2
12:12 Chaoslitz: hey.. o.o
12:12 ByBy13: hey ;w;
12:12 Chaoslitz: do you have time now ;w;
12:18 Chaoslitz: :<
12:18 ByBy13: i have less time but i can do it
12:18 Chaoslitz: sure :o
12:19 Chaoslitz: i am ready owo
12:25 ByBy13: wait i am eating owo ;w;
12:26 Chaoslitz: ok =w=
12:39 ByBy13: ok let's go? owo
12:39 Chaoslitz: yea owo
12:40 ByBy13: oki owo
12:43 ByBy13: 00:46:419 (3)- uncorrectly snapping
12:43 ByBy13: I mentioned it last time too
12:44 Chaoslitz: i fixed LOL
12:45 Chaoslitz: just because we didnt finish the mod so i havent update the map owo
12:45 ByBy13: owo
12:45 ByBy13: I am supposed to go to Normal
12:46 Chaoslitz: ok owo
12:51 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959587 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Normal]]
12:52 ByBy13: 00:47:112 (5,6)- wrongly snapped i guess. The vocal from (5)-'s head is starting on 1/3 tick and it ends on 1/8 i guess
12:53 Chaoslitz: thats the same problem as Easy i guess
12:53 ByBy13: 00:53:804 (4,5)- spacing =w=
12:53 ByBy13: I know
12:54 Chaoslitz: D: whats wrong with the spacing
12:54 ByBy13: just move (5)- and you will see what's wrong with it
12:54 ByBy13: o.o
12:55 ByBy13: I moved (5)- a bit and then I saw it was a bit down than before
12:56 Chaoslitz: urhh 0.01x of spacing >_>
12:56 Chaoslitz: fixed
12:56 ByBy13: oki
12:57 Chaoslitz: well i guess i would keep 00:47:122 (5) -
12:57 ByBy13: okay o.o
12:58 Chaoslitz: yea the vocal is tended to be on the red tick so i guess it is fine
12:58 ByBy13: okay
13:13 ByBy13: 01:00:496 - and 01:00:612 - mind adding notes here? here are clearly triplets in vocal and i don't know why did you decrease the note density suddenly when the vocal is stressed
13:13 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/960585 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Collab Hard]]
13:14 Chaoslitz: ok
13:16 Chaoslitz: done
13:16 ByBy13: oki
13:18 ByBy13: 02:33:958 (2,3,4,5)- the spacing can be a bit increased because it looks like the slider and the triplets are overlapping
13:19 Chaoslitz: ok done
13:41 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/956456 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Ifuuidol]]
13:42 ByBy13: 00:31:881 (2,3)- shouldn't be the spacing a bit bigger? the vocal on (3)- are more stressed than (2)-
13:42 ByBy13: *are stressed like (2)-
13:43 Chaoslitz: ok
13:46 ByBy13: 01:20:573 (1)- you don't need to have the sv change which makes the slider's speed slow because the vocal and the instruments are stressed here, not into 'relaxing' mode
13:47 ByBy13: same goes for this one : 01:18:727 (1)-
13:48 Chaoslitz: ah i did it to emphasize the vocal actually
13:48 ByBy13: oh
13:49 Chaoslitz: yea :3
13:49 ByBy13: ok :3
13:51 ByBy13: and that's all i guess

Unfortunately I won't icon for now because I am scared of the snapping on vocal right before every kiai.Try to get more opinions about the snappings to see if they are sure or not because it looks like the vocal is starting on 1/3 and ending on 1/8 right before every kiai :c
Topic Starter
Chaoslitz

ByBy13 wrote:

We did IRC:
No.1
12:47 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959147 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Easy]]
12:47 ByBy13: 00:25:189 (4,1)- spacing
12:47 ByBy13: :c
12:48 Chaoslitz: ok
12:50 Chaoslitz: ahh one more thing i guess i didnt fix the preview point after changing the mp3
12:50 Chaoslitz: i will fix it now
12:51 ByBy13: oki
12:56 ByBy13: the offset can be 11,353
12:58 Chaoslitz: ok
12:59 ByBy13: 00
12:59 Chaoslitz: ok i have to fix the preview point again lol
12:59 ByBy13: 00:44:583 (1)- you can have an 3/2 slider with repeat because i don't see any extension in vocal if you are following it
13:01 ByBy13: 00:46:429 (2)- its tail sounds like is snapped wrongly.you have to snap it on 1/8 but i suggest to find another solution to make something still friendly for newbie players
13:02 Chaoslitz: hmm i guess i will do the same thing for 00:46:429 (3) -
13:02 ByBy13: okay
13:02 ByBy13: o.o
13:02 Chaoslitz: at least i can have an emphasize on 00:47:122 -
13:02 ByBy13: yes
13:05 Chaoslitz: ok fixed
13:07 ByBy13: 01:28:891 (1,2)- Having a rhythm like this one doesn't make really more sense to the vocal because it follows the vocal weird.You can do a rhythm like this one: note + note + 1/1 slider
13:07 ByBy13: to follow the vocal much better than before
13:08 Chaoslitz: i will just follow the i have fixed in 00:44:583 (1) -
13:09 ByBy13: oki

No.2
12:12 Chaoslitz: hey.. o.o
12:12 ByBy13: hey ;w;
12:12 Chaoslitz: do you have time now ;w;
12:18 Chaoslitz: :<
12:18 ByBy13: i have less time but i can do it
12:18 Chaoslitz: sure :o
12:19 Chaoslitz: i am ready owo
12:25 ByBy13: wait i am eating owo ;w;
12:26 Chaoslitz: ok =w=
12:39 ByBy13: ok let's go? owo
12:39 Chaoslitz: yea owo
12:40 ByBy13: oki owo
12:43 ByBy13: 00:46:419 (3)- uncorrectly snapping
12:43 ByBy13: I mentioned it last time too
12:44 Chaoslitz: i fixed LOL
12:45 Chaoslitz: just because we didnt finish the mod so i havent update the map owo
12:45 ByBy13: owo
12:45 ByBy13: I am supposed to go to Normal
12:46 Chaoslitz: ok owo
12:51 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959587 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Normal]]
12:52 ByBy13: 00:47:112 (5,6)- wrongly snapped i guess. The vocal from (5)-'s head is starting on 1/3 tick and it ends on 1/8 i guess
12:53 Chaoslitz: thats the same problem as Easy i guess
12:53 ByBy13: 00:53:804 (4,5)- spacing =w=
12:53 ByBy13: I know
12:54 Chaoslitz: D: whats wrong with the spacing
12:54 ByBy13: just move (5)- and you will see what's wrong with it
12:54 ByBy13: o.o
12:55 ByBy13: I moved (5)- a bit and then I saw it was a bit down than before
12:56 Chaoslitz: urhh 0.01x of spacing >_>
12:56 Chaoslitz: fixed
12:56 ByBy13: oki
12:57 Chaoslitz: well i guess i would keep 00:47:122 (5) -
12:57 ByBy13: okay o.o
12:58 Chaoslitz: yea the vocal is tended to be on the red tick so i guess it is fine
12:58 ByBy13: okay
13:13 ByBy13: 01:00:496 - and 01:00:612 - mind adding notes here? here are clearly triplets in vocal and i don't know why did you decrease the note density suddenly when the vocal is stressed
13:13 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/960585 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Collab Hard]]
13:14 Chaoslitz: ok
13:16 Chaoslitz: done
13:16 ByBy13: oki
13:18 ByBy13: 02:33:958 (2,3,4,5)- the spacing can be a bit increased because it looks like the slider and the triplets are overlapping
13:19 Chaoslitz: ok done
13:41 *ByBy13 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/956456 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Ifuuidol]]
13:42 ByBy13: 00:31:881 (2,3)- shouldn't be the spacing a bit bigger? the vocal on (3)- are more stressed than (2)-
13:42 ByBy13: *are stressed like (2)-
13:43 Chaoslitz: ok
13:46 ByBy13: 01:20:573 (1)- you don't need to have the sv change which makes the slider's speed slow because the vocal and the instruments are stressed here, not into 'relaxing' mode
13:47 ByBy13: same goes for this one : 01:18:727 (1)-
13:48 Chaoslitz: ah i did it to emphasize the vocal actually
13:48 ByBy13: oh
13:49 Chaoslitz: yea :3
13:49 ByBy13: ok :3
13:51 ByBy13: and that's all i guess

Unfortunately I won't icon for now because I am scared of the snapping on vocal right before every kiai.Try to get more opinions about the snappings to see if they are sure or not because it looks like the vocal is starting on 1/3 and ending on 1/8 right before every kiai :c
well actually like what I have said during the irc, it should be snapped to 1/2 even if the vocal is not precisely snapped on it, I am mapping to where the vocal tends to be, you may listen the other version of ifuudoudou as you can clearly hear it is snapped on 1/2. Different artists represent the song in their own way so that's why issue like this occurs

There are similar issues in this map, for the same reason it will affect the playability if it is snapped exactly where the vocal is

Anyway I have tried to simplify the rhythm as much as I can, I have changed 01:33:737 (6,7,8) - 02:34:660 (6,7,8) - this two triplets into reverse sliders (Hard and Insane) in order to enhance the playability

Thanks for mod :3
Nozhomi
IRC
2016-06-07 21:13 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/959587 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Normal]]
2016-06-07 21:14 Nozhomi: 02:36:506 (2) - it would be better for a newbie to have the circle like at 234:300, it's more logic to play
2016-06-07 21:15 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-06-07 21:15 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/960585 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Collab Hard]]
2016-06-07 21:16 Nozhomi: I think I won't blame you for stack like 00:11:699 (2,3) -
2016-06-07 21:16 Nozhomi: stupid osu! editor XD
2016-06-07 21:17 Chaoslitz: xD
2016-06-07 21:17 Chaoslitz: oh wait why there are two finishes
2016-06-07 21:17 Nozhomi: lol
2016-06-07 21:17 Chaoslitz: removed the one at 00:11:583 - ~_~
2016-06-07 21:18 Nozhomi: 00:55:199 (5) - about this one, I think you should do it as 00:57:045 (4) - , because both cover the same type of vocal here
2016-06-07 21:19 Nozhomi: and also all other reverse sliders before were a 1 reverse only when this one is 2 reverses
2016-06-07 21:19 Nozhomi: :c
2016-06-07 21:20 Nozhomi: 01:20:583 (4,5) - same kind of problem imo here, you follow a 2 reverses with a 3
2016-06-07 21:21 Nozhomi: but on a Hardn people could still have problem to know how much arrows these one have and could lead to an easy break imo
2016-06-07 21:21 Chaoslitz: i should change all of the reverse sliders? :o
2016-06-07 21:21 Chaoslitz: 2 reverses
2016-06-07 21:22 Chaoslitz: because i used it for next 2 kiai as well :/
2016-06-07 21:23 Chaoslitz: or i should change all of them in patterns like 01:39:276 (3,4,5) -
2016-06-07 21:23 Chaoslitz: ?
2016-06-07 21:23 Nozhomi: I think 2nd kiai is fine if you invert 01:37:660 (4,5,6) - with 01:35:814 (6) -
2016-06-07 21:24 Nozhomi: because it could alert the player of your rhythm change for a 4 beats tap
2016-06-07 21:24 Nozhomi: so they would not be surprised
2016-06-07 21:24 Nozhomi: nyu
2016-06-07 21:25 Chaoslitz: i think 01:37:429 (3,4,5,6) - is fine
2016-06-07 21:25 Chaoslitz: as there are no vocal at 01:37:545 -
2016-06-07 21:26 Nozhomi: I don't said it's bad
2016-06-07 21:26 Nozhomi: lol
2016-06-07 21:26 Chaoslitz: uwu ok
2016-06-07 21:26 Nozhomi: well nvm
2016-06-07 21:26 Nozhomi: my solution can't be applied
2016-06-07 21:26 Nozhomi: baka me
2016-06-07 21:27 Chaoslitz: what about 00:57:045 (4) -
2016-06-07 21:27 Chaoslitz: should i change it into 2 reverses
2016-06-07 21:27 Nozhomi: no
2016-06-07 21:28 Nozhomi: imo it should be 00:55:199 (5) - who should change for a 1/2 slider
2016-06-07 21:29 Chaoslitz: hmm okay
2016-06-07 21:29 Nozhomi: 02:12:276 (3,4) - tbh this one scared me more than other XD
2016-06-07 21:29 Nozhomi: you know why
2016-06-07 21:32 Nozhomi: 03:05:353 (4,8) - last thing, I think it would be nice to avoid the little overlap here if possible
2016-06-07 21:36 Chaoslitz: how about http://puu.sh/pkofN/49badecdde.jpg
2016-06-07 21:36 Chaoslitz: ah okay
2016-06-07 21:38 Nozhomi: k
2016-06-07 21:39 Nozhomi: will play the last diff last time to be sure but I didn't saw anything wrong now
2016-06-07 21:43 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-06-07 21:43 Nozhomi: the only thing I would change
2016-06-07 21:43 Nozhomi: is 00:11:699 (2) -
2016-06-07 21:43 Nozhomi: I missread it always for a 1/4 lol
2016-06-07 21:44 Nozhomi: (even with nomod)
2016-06-07 21:44 Nozhomi: would be nice to unstack it imo but you see
2016-06-07 21:45 Nozhomi: (because I missread other too like 01:03:391 (2) - XD)
2016-06-07 21:46 Chaoslitz: ahh i will try fixing it
2016-06-07 21:46 Nozhomi: after that, should be all
2016-06-07 21:47 Nozhomi: OH and
2016-06-07 21:47 Nozhomi: metadata are fine right ?
2016-06-07 21:48 Chaoslitz: yea xd
2016-06-07 21:48 Nozhomi: (have you any sources or smth I could understand ? XD)
2016-06-07 21:49 Chaoslitz: ahh wait
2016-06-07 21:50 Chaoslitz: http://5sing.kugou.com/fc/15083871.html
2016-06-07 21:50 Chaoslitz: this one
2016-06-07 21:51 Nozhomi: kk
2016-06-07 21:51 Nozhomi: fine
2016-06-07 21:51 Chaoslitz: ok done fixing the insane
2016-06-07 21:52 Chaoslitz: should i update now? :o
2016-06-07 21:52 Nozhomi: ya
2016-06-07 21:52 Nozhomi: want me to qualify it now or ?
2016-06-07 21:52 Chaoslitz: not now :o
2016-06-07 21:52 Nozhomi: okay~
2016-06-07 21:53 Chaoslitz: ok updated
2016-06-07 21:53 Chaoslitz: you can recheck xD
2016-06-07 21:54 Nozhomi: k
2016-06-07 21:54 Nozhomi: so I'm baka I forget to check spacing consistency on Normal and Easy XD
2016-06-07 21:54 Nozhomi: because I found some lol
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/959587 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Normal]]
2016-06-07 21:55 Chaoslitz: oh o.o
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: 01:04:429 (3,4) -
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: 02:17:814 (2,3) -
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: 02:21:276 (2,3) -
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: 02:24:968 (2,3) -
2016-06-07 21:55 Nozhomi: 02:27:045 (6,1) -
2016-06-07 21:56 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/959147 Sharlo - Ifuudoudou [Easy]]
2016-06-07 21:56 Nozhomi: 01:33:968 (2,1) -
2016-06-07 21:57 Nozhomi: 02:27:968 (1,2) - limit but could be adjusted slightly
2016-06-07 21:57 Nozhomi: 02:52:891 (4,5) - same
2016-06-07 21:57 Chaoslitz: ah for 02:27:045 (6,1) - i guess it fine
2016-06-07 21:57 Chaoslitz: normal
2016-06-07 21:57 Chaoslitz: because if i use 0.9 or 1x then only the edges will be overlapping
2016-06-07 21:58 Chaoslitz: that 2/3 gap :(
2016-06-07 21:58 Nozhomi: with 1.00x it don't overlap
2016-06-07 21:59 Chaoslitz: okay
2016-06-07 21:59 Nozhomi: :)
2016-06-07 21:59 Chaoslitz: done o/
2016-06-07 22:00 Nozhomi: k I look at 2 last diffs and we're done
2016-06-07 22:03 Nozhomi: K
2016-06-07 22:03 Nozhomi: I think it's fine

What we did :
- Fixed spacing issues on Easy / Normal (we let a 1.00x spacing on normal after a 1/6 gap to avoid overlap).
- Fixed some reverse sliders for an easier global reading.
- Fixed 1/4 note who were hard to read.

Also about the rhythm issue pointed by ByBy, we changed it by a 1/4 reverse slider to avoid the bad feel created by the rhythmic imperfection, and play quite nice now.
Topic Starter
Chaoslitz
Minor update:

Easy
  1. Added a missing clap
Normal
  1. Fixed a NC
Ifuudoudou
  1. Placed 01:40:660 (4) near 01:41:006 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) with same ds as to follow 00:54:737 (4,5,6,7,8,9)
  2. Unstacked 03:01:199 (1,2) to follow the same pattern
Nozhomi
Lewd~ and I like it :3
Topic Starter
Chaoslitz
Thanks everyone who have helped me in this mapset :>, I hope it can be ranked on time..

我也算是盡我所能去做了?..
原本是打算在我當bn一年的時候rank的, 想了想還是放棄了, 畢竟沒有什麽好慶祝233, 至少我覺得這樣做會更有意義, 我亦希望自己所做的一切和付出是正確的.
不過大概全都是自己妄想吧(?

廢話還是不多說了, 滾回去哭瞎www
Mint
Congrats!
pw384
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Karen
原来你也想在夏萝生日rank,嘛的我的偶拉松被拖拖拖已经来不及了
Sharlo
RIP 偶拉松
Akasha-
lewd
zyoi
夏蘿姊姊太ecchi
Misure
唔呃啊啊好厉害 :)
Nozhomi
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa so close ><
Kiwata
阿阿阿阿阿~~~
cRyo[iceeicee]
00:11:352 - 00:18:737 my new ringtone
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