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lightcoke
@AstroCore

I didn't understand your question.. ;-;
but I guess this can help you.
Here Electoz is talking about ranks. maybe this can help :3

Electoz wrote:

If you're not in 30k-60k range but you want to register, you can, but if your team has less than 2 person in the range by 25th March 00:00 UTC, your team will not be registered. That means your team will be registered as long as at least 2 person in the team has their ranks in the range by that time.
However, if you can't maintain your rank when your first match begins, you won't be allowed to play(as an individual) unless you get back into the range again. (e.g. : If your rank is #29,500 by the time of your first match, you will have to wait until your rank get above #30,000 in order to play again)

Of course if your first match has already begun then you're allowed to go above and below the rank I specified.
If it doesn't help you. Wait for Electoz to answer you Here. :D
Topic Starter
Electoz
Yeah that was dumb of me, thanks for pointing that lol.
Right now there are 2 cases.
1. Players who stayed in the range until the first match began, well it's almost everyone, you can have your ranks freely now, no restrictions anymore.
2. Players whose ranks is out of range at the time first match began, these players still need a permission from the opponent to play game-by-game, you can ask your opponent in advance but a ref will ask you one more time at a match time for confirmation, this still applies unless that player has got back into the range.
EDIT : I also noticed that I forgot to swap the local times for ReChoke and RedLikeRoses, really sorry for that one, anyways the utc time is still the same and if you spotted any mistake please report it to me immediately
Also, the rescheduling will be a bit lenient this time so you don't have to complete it before Thursday any more, but please make sure your opponent agreed on the rescheduled time.
Sporadik

Electoz wrote:

EDIT : I also noticed that I forgot to swap the local times for ReChoke and RedLikeRoses, really sorry for that one, anyways the utc time is still the same and if you spotted any mistake please report it to me immediately
Whooo, I was scared about that, I thought it was forced :lol:
Topic Starter
Electoz
After I spending hours on how to create a bracket for 12(currently 11) teams, I found out it's impossible.
I'm sorry to say but only top 4 teams from each group(8 in total) will advance to the double elimination stage, with all 8 teams starting from the winners bracket.
[ Yui ]
You can have it based on wins and losses, which looks ugly, but get everyone to play again. The top winners would get the byes and the others would get put in an earlier bracket. It helps people at least get a match or two in.
lightcoke
This can help. (my opinion you can edit)

I like the idea of [Yui]

US:

6 vs 3 (1 here)

5 vs 4 (2 here)

lets say 5 and 3 won

3 vs 1

5 vs 2

lets say 3 and 2 won

3 vs 2

final 3 won

In EU is different since there is a team that was register but now is not...

For me since it was register everytime they go vs them is a intant win.

so it will be the same.

3 and 2 plue 1 will be in the semifinals

first 5v4

since 3 is vs 6 is a intant win

so it will look like.

5 vs 4 (1 here)

none (2 and 3)

lets say 5 win

5 vs 1

3 vs 2 (now 3 can play)

and so on...

if you dont understand... i m sorry

replaying from phone :3

i hope this can help!!!
Astro
Oh hi Yui, crazy that you've been involved with both tournaments I've been in :p

So I actually run the Super Smash Brothers scene in my state. I'm very comfortable making brackets and the such, I typically use TioPro but I made a demonstration bracket in Challonge. Link:

http://challonge.com/osu2v2temp

I pretended like the group stage was over (I input dummy values). Click the tab 'Group Stage' to see final standings.

This bracket has top 2 in each pool moving on in winners, with bottom 4 in losers. You could make it top 3 in winners by playing out matches 8 and 6, and top 4 by also playing out matches 5 and 7. For the purpose of this explanation, just pretend it's only top 2 on winners side. Also, A-1 refers to "pool A, first place," B-3 is "pool B, third place," etc.

This bracket has A-1 vs B-2 and B-1 vs A-2 in winners. Losers is B-3 vs A-6, B-4 vs A-5, B-5 vs A-4, and B-6 vs A-3.

Of course Combo Breakers have forfeit so that make is a bye, but otherwise this is how the bracket should look. If you still only want an 8 man bracket then pretend B-3, B-4, A-3, and A-4 win their matches and bam, 8 man bracket.

I'd be willing to set up and/or run a legitimate Challonge bracket for you if you'd like.

Edit: Since you don't have admin access to this demo bracket you can't change anything, but I can literally put any team wherever I want.

Edit 2: forgot to mention. all the "reported" matches in the Final bracket are essentially byes. If you wanted everyone to come out on winners side then we'd play out those matches, but otherwise ignore them.
Xelias

AstroCore wrote:

Oh hi Yui, crazy that you've been involved with both tournaments I've been in :p

So I actually run the Super Smash Brothers scene in my state. I'm very comfortable making brackets and the such, I typically use TioPro but I made a demonstration bracket in Challonge. Link:

http://challonge.com/osu2v2temp

I pretended like the group stage was over (I input dummy values). Click the tab 'Group Stage' to see final standings.

This bracket has top 2 in each pool moving on in winners, with bottom 4 in losers. You could make it top 3 in winners by playing out matches 8 and 6, and top 4 by also playing out matches 5 and 7. For the purpose of this explanation, just pretend it's only top 2 on winners side. Also, A-1 refers to "pool A, first place," B-3 is "pool B, third place," etc.

This bracket has A-1 vs B-2 and B-1 vs A-2 in winners. Losers is B-3 vs A-6, B-4 vs A-5, B-5 vs A-4, and B-6 vs A-3.

Of course Combo Breakers have forfeit so that make is a bye, but otherwise this is how the bracket should look. If you still only want an 8 man bracket then pretend B-3, B-4, A-3, and A-4 win their matches and bam, 8 man bracket.

I'd be willing to set up and/or run a legitimate Challonge bracket for you if you'd like.

Edit: Since you don't have admin access to this demo bracket you can't change anything, but I can literally put any team wherever I want.

Edit 2: forgot to mention. all the "reported" matches in the Final bracket are essentially byes. If you wanted everyone to come out on winners side then we'd play out those matches, but otherwise ignore them.
This would work very well. However the moment u have no chance of getting that bye using calculations, u really don't have to try in any other games if ur a smartass, which could be flawed. And with Electoz's plan, all teams must play hard to qualify, but it reduces the amount of teams. My thoughts on this.

Also Electoz, I will be able to help you with staffing from now on if u still need it, please don't schedule me for stuff during our match though :D
Topic Starter
Electoz
Oh never really thought of that one, thanks everyone.
Anyways I'll put the format thing on hold and will see if I can come up with Astrocore's suggestion.
Astro

Si1entKiTTeh wrote:

This would work very well. However the moment u have no chance of getting that bye using calculations, u really don't have to try in any other games if ur a smartass, which could be flawed. And with Electoz's plan, all teams must play hard to qualify, but it reduces the amount of teams. My thoughts on this.

Also Electoz, I will be able to help you with staffing from now on if u still need it, please don't schedule me for stuff during our match though :D

Si1ent KiTTeh! You were also in Yui's tournament! I watched you murder Best FriendS on stream (in a good way).

Anyway, only the top two teams in each pool go to winners side, the motivation for everyone to keep trying hard even when they can't be first or second is seeding.

6th in your pool means you play the team who was 3rd in their pool, while 5th in your pool means you play the team who was 4th in the other pool. Even if you're 0-4, you still want to try fight for 5th place so that you'll have a better chance of winning in first round bracket.

Does all that make sense? I've been running (offline) tournaments for almost 2 years now so if you have any bracket related questions feel free to ask.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Added a bracket, hope it's okay now.
If there's something that can be improved then don't please hesitate to suggest me.
EDIT : Also, the second mappool will be released right after the last match in group stage ends, it will be used until 24 April 2016.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Hey everyone, my internet has been lagging all day, not sure if I can get online in game. Plus, most refs are unavailable for the matches today.
So here's the worst case that might happen :
If there are no refs in your match today(keep checking on google sheet because I might be able to get some refs(?)), a team which is on the left side will have to create the room, invite your opponent by /invite command, and play the match. Both team must send me what the bans(including yours and your opponent) are and the mp link. This is the worst case scenario where you have to play without refs, really sorry for inconvenience.
I'll inform both teams around 10 minutes before the match time if I can't find a ref for your match. If the team on the left side doesn't create the room at the match time, the team on the right side will create the room and invite the other team. If it happens to be a forfeit, please pm me in the forum, and if you have any problems you should pm me also.
As I stated earlier, this is the worst case scenario where you don't have any refs in your match.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Stream will be up again this time : https://www.twitch.tv/dudemonke61
Astro
I made a tool to see the final group standing based on the results of tomorrows games.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Just copy the sheet and input the values you'd like to check out. I did it for me, figured I'd share.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Second mappool released, I'll release the schedule later.
SenorJustice
Lol wait River Flows In You isn't from a visual novel.

Edit: Then again a lot of them aren't. I suppose I didn't realize until now.
Topic Starter
Electoz

SenorJustice wrote:

Lol wait River Flows In You isn't from a visual novel.

Edit: Then again a lot of them aren't. I suppose I didn't realize until now.
I guess I screwed up
But the storyboard is still from a visual novel, I guess it's still fine this time as I can't really change anything now that I released the pool.
Also apart from River Flows in You I can confirm that all of them are from visual novels.
EDIT : The schedule has been released, this time you can reschedule on weekdays. If you have any problems with the schedule please pm me, thanks.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Guys looks like I messed up the bracket, pretty badly.
The schedules for this week will remain as-is, no changes had been made so don't worry.
However, the loser bracket will start from next week. And I made quite number of changes in loser bracket, so please recheck the bracket in doc.
Please be reminded that you need to lose twice before you actually being out of the tournament. If you lost this time, you still have your chance in loser bracket!
Really sorry for the mess I made here, really sorry.
EDIT : The matches will be best of 9, meaning that first to 5 wins.
Astro
Uh, is there a reason there's no dates on the schedule?

As selfish as it is, I only really care about the date and time of my match (ManlyItalooW2 vs SparkleSnorterz).
Topic Starter
Electoz
Uh, sry, I was busy lately, I'll get it done within 12 hours cuz I need to sleep now.
Kinda a lame excuse but yeah
[ Yui ]

Electoz wrote:

Uh, sry, I was busy lately, I'll get it done within 12 hours cuz I need to sleep now.
Kinda a lame excuse but yeah
Sleep for a solo organizer is a good thing :D
Topic Starter
Electoz
Ok, now I released the schedules for this week.
You will probably noticed that I removed the local times, this is because there are so many problems coming up with daylight summer time change so I removed them, unfortunately you will have to convert the times by yourselves from now on.
The matches will still be best of 9 (first to 5 wins) and we're using the same pool from last week.
If you have played on Saturday and you win, you will have to play on Sunday as well.
Rescheduling is allowed on weekdays for Sunday matches, Saturday matches can be rescheduled as long as it ends before the sunday matches.

If you have noticed anything wrong feel free to ask/tell me and good luck to everyone~
Topic Starter
Electoz
Stream is coming up : https://www.twitch.tv/dudemonke61
Also there will be some changes made to the losers bracket, but it won't have any schedule changes for this week so rest assured.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Anyways the changes in losers bracket won't be made that much due to some turn of events, here's the detail : http://puu.sh/ot7Ao/04362594ed.txt
Thanks everyone for today!
Topic Starter
Electoz
Alright then, the schedule for this week is done.
Similar to last week, if you're in losers bracket and if you win on Saturday then you have to play on Sunday as well.
For Saturday the matches will still be Best of 9 (First to 5 wins), and Sunday will be Best of 11(First to 6 wins).
We will be still using the same mappool as last week, however, the new pool will be used after this week for Finals.
Also if you're Potatomouse or Flying CrazyLeeshot and you're reading this, it would be preferable to get your match rescheduled before this weekend.
Rescheduling is allowed on weekdays for Sunday matches, Saturday matches can be rescheduled as long as it ends before the sunday matches.
Good luck to everyone~
Topic Starter
Electoz

Electoz wrote:

Also if you're Potatomouse or Flying CrazyLeeshot and you're reading this, it would be preferable to get your match rescheduled before this weekend.
Since the rescheduled match didn't happen, any team that has to play with 1 of these teams will get a forfeit win today. If you want to know about the details you can ask me in game.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Double post since it's important
As for the rescheduled match I mentioned above, the match can still happen but this time the loser will be out from the tournament, while the winner of this match will be sitting in "Loser of 401" spot in google sheet.
You got until next Friday to play this match or you will be out from the tournament.
Topic Starter
Electoz
Thanks everyone for today~
Just gonna say that I'll release a new pool a bit late, will be either late Monday or Tuesday.
A reschduled match from the earlier week will still using the second mappool, good luck to everyone~
Sporadik

Electoz wrote:

as long as your opponent finds your rank acceptable.
Manly Italoo too OP D: pp farmers ;-;


:D
Astro

Sporadik wrote:

Electoz wrote:

as long as your opponent finds your rank acceptable.
Manly Italoo too OP D: pp farmers ;-;


:D
From 30k to 22k in 9 days, ty based DT.

GGs man, both sets with y'all were fun! ^-^
Crihs
Pshh Astro and Hamwows, Dirty DT farmers pshh.
Sporadik
Tsk Tsk... dirty dirty farmers..:D

Goodluck with the next mappol though. It's gunna be long :D

Srsly: LONG, and with a special mapper in one of the maps
Astro

Sporadik wrote:

Goodluck with the next mappol though. It's gunna be long :D

Srsly: LONG, and with a special mapper in one of the maps

Wait WHAT. What's the new pool??? Has it been put up yet?
Topic Starter
Electoz
Last mappool and schedules for finals are released! Enjoy!
OrangeW

AstroCore wrote:

Sporadik wrote:

Goodluck with the next mappol though. It's gunna be long :D

Srsly: LONG, and with a special mapper in one of the maps

Wait WHAT. What's the new pool??? Has it been put up yet?
Yep!

Also 3 of us are now sub 30k. FeelsGoodMan
Sporadik

OrangeW wrote:

Yep!

Also 3 of us are now sub 30k. FeelsGoodMan

HAHAHAHAHA DAT 200pp jump. Still cant hr like me. :P :D

jk luv u <3
Crihs
Like every single map is at least 4 minutes long D:
Topic Starter
Electoz

Narwhallee wrote:

Like every single map is at least 4 minutes long D:
Well that's probably how visual novel songs work.
Either you have an opening which is 1:30 - 2:00 or a full size which is like 3:30 - 5:00
Topic Starter
Electoz
I'm here to inform that Flying CrazyLeeshot will be playing tomorrow due to lack of response from Potatomouse.
Topic Starter
Electoz
This week stream's link will be changed! You can access from here: https://www.twitch.tv/yuiosutourneys
Topic Starter
Electoz
Grand finals will be held on 8/5/2016 at 19:00 UTC! (Sparkle Snorterz vs ManlyItalooW2)
If you're interested in watching the game then feel free to tune in~!
Link: https://www.twitch.tv/yuiosutourneys
lightcoke
so... who won? :3
Sporadik

Tierra Azur wrote:

so... who won? :3
Hahahaha, I was also gonna ask that, the rescheduled match still has no results :)
Topic Starter
Electoz
Because the match keeps rescheduling over and over.
Grand finals will be held next week but I don't feel any motivation to make anyone setting up a stream for this tbh.
lightcoke
wow Electoz really sorry about it ;-;

already 2 weeks since the last match :o and still not Gran Finals.

Hype Got 2nd place then .-.
[ Yui ]

Electoz wrote:

Because the match keeps rescheduling over and over.
Grand finals will be held next week but I don't feel any motivation to make anyone setting up a stream for this tbh.
I got you Toast. Don't worry just give me the time it occurs and I will be up and have commentators there for the stream. <3
lightcoke
^^^^^^^
HYPE!!

"please be the day that the match is 100% sure"

:33
Astro
Sorry guys, exams caused the first reschedule and family issues caused the second one. :( It should happen this weekend though!
lightcoke
Soooo.....uh.... Who won? ;-;
Crihs

Tierra Azur wrote:

Soooo.....uh.... Who won? ;-;


Today my friend, I think .-.
lightcoke

Narwhallee wrote:

Tierra Azur wrote:

Soooo.....uh.... Who won? ;-;


Today my friend, I think .-.

rip ;-; i guess not?

:3 so that means my team got 2nd place :)))) HyPe


jk :D

already +10 no... more like +15 days .-.
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