Maakkeli wrote:

no memes

map errrrrrrrrrror
I. well at least it isn't cs6
II. 00:18:676 (6,7) - "Grid snap" there are more. Like here 00:24:010 (6,7) - I moved a lot of stuff manually so that followpoints are horizontal/vertical when possible without destroying anything else, bc it bugs me ingame otherwise kek
III. 00:38:510 (5,1) - Idk these were kinda ehh to play for me. Triple and then a double would be better to play imo and you could give some nice emphasis to 00:38:676 - with a circle might be true (not sure tho), but I mapped all kicks with sliders so slider it is
IV. 00:41:177 (4,1) - Lol spacing idk how much this actually matters lol fuck me (reduced all others bc spacing them all is impossible xd)
V. 00:58:676 (9,10,1) - Pls space more I break combo here always can't do that without running out of space, git gud
VI. 01:25:260 (8,9) - I read this wrong this time hihi
VII. 01:42:843 (1,2) - Triple would give nicer emphasis to the sound on that blue tick weee do I look like someone who activelsy overmaps just for emphasis xd
VIII. 01:50:843 (5,6,7) - This is so noticeable that it hurts snap it and look how stupid that looks ingame lol, auto-stacks are the death of this style
IX. 02:45:342 (1,2) - Nice custom stacks that you didn't do before uh dunno what you mean, just moved the autostack by 3x3 lol
pls fix the grid snap things make me (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

harddddd
I. 03:46:618 (3) - I actually feel like this should differ somehow from the others cause of the kicks oh true, changed that in Insane too
yea that's the only thing i could find im sorry

normallll
sorry i can't find anything worth noting

If you have not already seen this then you should definitely watch this I have kek

Milan- wrote:

Normal
-For the easiest diff in the set, your settings are just too hardcore, chill a bit. no chill oh whut I totally forgot about HP, I guess I can lower that lol (also for Hard)
-And for similar reasons, patterns like 00:32:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would be better like http://puu.sh/om8xF/74e1e83370.jpg , players are supposed to not be so used to clicking, so long sliders helps to keep the spread the same but makes the diff more friendly to players. I think. And that'd mean to change a lot of stuff so probably mapping an Easy is better, ok xd ye that would destroy everything so ughughghugh, if I really had to I'd make an Easy or an actual Normal, but I think I can get away with this (just gotta rank it while Bakari is inactive so it won't get DQd bc it's not called Advanced xd)
-00:51:010 (1) - Move to 464/160 for aesthetics? Semi overlapping 00:50:176 (6) - isn't too cute. excuuuuuse me princess, there's one pixel between them !!! but yeah, moving it would be pretty weird but I can actually raise CS by 0,1 without raising SR so I'll do that lol
-02:24:675 (1,2) - Why are these 2 notes only a combo? bc that's how the timing signature of the song is, as long as it doesn't imbalance HP it would be cool to leave it like that

Hard
-01:01:176 (4,4) - Although time has transcurrid, I think it'll look cleaner if you just move the circle to another position. not worth having to change so much, this isn't really noticable ingame imo
-02:22:176 (3,4,1) - Spacing is kinda confusing here. It's visually the same basically. Moving (1) further is better here. blame playfield for being too small, I actually got one testplay of a player of that level and they read it correctly, but I guess I should get some more testplays : \
-03:07:535 (1) - This doesn't sound too fitting to the strong sounds, like http://puu.sh/om9K7/17ba923d31.jpg sounds less confusing I think I'm always following drums so leaving 03:08:123 out seems weird af to me, and 1/6-slider wouldn't fit the difficulty so nah

Error
-00:47:760 (6,7,8) - I'd use 1/2 for these so the change to 1/4 spam starts when it should start and not before. why should it not start here? The melody that has the 1/4s starts right there and doesn't change at all on the downbeat so I see no reason to ignore it
-02:22:342 (7,1,2,3,4) - The rhythm change doesn't feel too natural imo. The music is the same all the time but the gaps are different. Would be better if (1) was further away from (7) so the change on the rhythms make more sense to the player. The music is not the same though, the drums play different to what the signature would suggest, hence why it sounds very unnatural in the song itself, hence why it is mapped like that. I'm just representing the music here, and the music is doing fun stuff, that's why I love this song so much <3 and I actually really love how that plays, fits really well imo
-02:57:342 - Weird that you use only repeaters when the music feels faster than 00:48:176 - . Some streams would sound nice I think. was already the same at 02:36:009 -, and since the rhythm is going in 3/4s this is exactly emphasizing stronger notes over weaker ones, inserting any streams would destroy that, I just wouldn't like it : \
-03:07:535 (1) - Same as hard probably 1/6-slider is fitting for this diff so yes \:D/

Get a lower size video, 20 mb is too overkill for what osu! is design to ;( I'll ask ezek (who provided it) about it : \

Mazziv wrote:

hi oko
remove video oder mach es kleiner Kappa ya I know, der Typi ders mir gemacht hat war bis jetzt noch nicht on, weiß aber auch nicht ob das so ne hard rule is halt vier Minuten lang, das Video is eh schon recht klein, werd mal rumfragen



[Hard]
00:50:510 (4) - ctrl+g oder ich esse dich die ganze section hat eh keine jumps und es wird in den umliegenden sections oft bissi mit slider leniency rumgespielt, also find ich dass das gut passt um zumindest irgendwas zu emphasize, in diesem Fall die kicks ^^
00:55:843 (4) - same tbh
01:52:009 - für was die unötigen timing points und bpm changes in dieser diff wenn da eh nichts ist TIMING SIGNATURE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR NIGHTCORE OK?OK! und auch im Hauptmenü sind die beats dann richtig unso, außerdem muss ich für meinen kleinen Penis kompensieren
[Map error]
02:17:676 (1,2,3) - wieso ist 3 von 2 weiter entfernt als 1 von 2 weil emphasis auf den kicks, is auch schon bei 02:13:009 (1,2,3) und 02:14:176 (1,2,3) so ^^

Bonsai ich glaub du bist immer noch in 2006,heutzutage ist es möglich curved sliders zu machen OMG YOU'RE RIGHT, brb remap

Mazziv wrote:

gibe kds or you die

Mazziv wrote:

Bonsai ich glaub du bist immer noch in 2006,heutzutage ist es möglich curved sliders zu machen

BOUYAAA wrote:

Mazziv wrote:

Bonsai ich glaub du bist immer noch in 2006,heutzutage ist es möglich curved sliders zu machen

Okorin wrote:

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Okorin wrote:

[general]
give me meta http://music.disasterpeace.com/album/rise-of-the-obsidian-interstellar (bandcamp = his official website)
i think hitsounding could have used more whistles, but they would conflict with your durmwhistles so :/ still i think the song is much more complex than your hitsounding I'd rather not tbh, additional hitsounding kinda ruins the song for me bc I'm bad at it
you could actually add error after every diffname kinda feels too much for me, special-diffname-inflation xd
everything i mention that would make this inconsistent would apply to everything

[insane]
you wanted to lower ar to 8 but a lot patterns work better with higher AR, I'd suggest going with 8.5 uh I'll think about it some more, just came up with the idea yesterday lol
00:21:176 (6,7) - to transition into the next part i would recommend bending rhythm around a bit, i mean you just recycle 00:15:509 (4,5,6,7) - , I'd recommend using a variation of 00:10:176 (4,5,6) - to highlight that red tick more and to have more varied rhythm in this section buut I always have the kicks clickable so making it land on a slidertail would be ew for the overall diff
00:37:343 (7) - i think circles are more interesting for these sounds yes indeed
00:48:176 - to 00:58:843 - is a huge difficulty spike in terms of speed, as such a thing is not consistently present as a diffspike in hard or normal you should really simplify this a bit, especially the distances that grid 1 gives you with this can end up being very confusing, please consider this thoroughly. Instead of considering it thoroughly I thoroughly re-spaced that whole section because I am a masochist
01:24:677 (6,7,8,9) - idk what this used to be but it looks broken with current SL (already didded)

[hard]
you deleted green line spam in normal but not in this diff any reason for that or l ool it's my interpretation of the song ok ok
im torn between thinking this diff is boring as hell or actually interesting because the way it's spaced is really plain and boring but the way most of the stuff snaps to grid1 looks so cool in edit
nonetheless i think certain parts could benefit from using grid 2 to avoid general clusterfuck I totally see your point and kinda felt the same, but using Grid2 for 1/2s would completely destroy the aesthetics, I mean holy moly, the other points got rhythmically simplified now so there aren't many clusterfucks remaining, gotta live with that : \
examples of patterns i struggle with reading-wise:
00:31:676 (3,4,5,6) - (00:31:843 (5) - especially 5 because holding such a short thing and moving so little while doing so feels odd to me)
00:59:676 (3,4,1) - 01:00:843 (3,4,1,2,3) - 01:02:343 (5,6,1) - are especially confusing because they mix 2 layers, these odd drums and the normal drumline going on in the background, since i have no way to puush my thoughts right now here's what i'd do in order to make this easier to comprehend for your target audience> I made similar stuff everyhwere
00:59:676 (3,4,1) - deleting 4,1 and doing circle in 01:00:010 - , 3/4 slider in 01:00:093 - , 01:00:510 - circle actually I just replaced all the short sliders with circles
01:00:843 (3,4,1,2,3) - either making 01:01:176 - an 1/2 slider + circle or just a 3x repeat and deleting 01:01:426 - works better for me but I am writing a lot of text here
for the last one making 01:02:676 - a circle works better. so everybody sees that I actually changed a lot of stuff and doesn't complain about me denying everything
01:02:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - these need more space, 1. for emphasis and 2. current thing is terror. I think it's already quite challenging to click that rhythmically, so dunno if spacing it more would change much for emphasis, but yeah Grid2 on 1/2s is not gonna happen : \
similar stuff applies to the following iterations fo them yes yes
01:49:676 (1,2,3) - can you like not do this, going back and forth to play a doublet feels super eww :/ I really loved that repeat-slider but ok, rip :,(
01:19:926 - would delete oooh yes, very good point, would apply again
00:46:760 (2) - seems rather arbitrary considering your overall rhythm why though? It still follows that melody that I focus on all the time, it's just the 'filler'-circle (like 00:46:176 (2) -) that is missing o:
02:24:676 (1) - wuts combo wuts time signature
02:45:842 (2) - pls this is soo hidden that it can confuse ppl who aren't that good at reading , besides i'drecommend circles if you want to map that. made the slider go up instead of to the right now, should be a bit better xd

this mod for hard can be tldr'd as if you make 02:10:675 - to 02:57:342 - this simple then you should keep 00:48:176 - to 01:20:176 - more simple as well or make everything harder but lest cluttered how can it be tldr'd like that when you didn't mention that before xd but well, the first part from 02:10:675 on is simpler in rhythm but much more difficult in spacing because that's the only part where more than one 'jump' occurs consecutively; the part from 02:25:343 on feels much calmer to me than 00:48:176 because the melody-thingy that has the many 1/4s doesn't seem as prominent to me, and there are overall less layers of rhythms/melodies, and in comparison to the previous part everything is much calmer too (drums n stuff), so yeah, imo everything fits

[normal]
You know that guideline that says "The difficulty spread should be reasonable"? that guideline also says that if you skip doing an easy then your normal has to fulfill the general guidelines of an easy as well, like your normal is on the upper side of normals in terms of rhythm usage and thus makes your set somewhat inaccessible to complete newbies, I would rather see an easy here before pushing this forward as normal contains a lot active 1/2 i and short repeat sliders which beginners are known to struggle a lot on.
Just imagine someone playing this diff who is not yet familiar with how short sliders or circles / holding short sliders works and then throw 01:07:676 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - at them to see them being completely confused and frustrated.
I think you get what i mean here. the patterns themselves seem fine for a normal, if there's a lower diff present to at least introduce people to the core rhythm of this song
oooooh, that's written in the guidelines, fuck, I always just looked at the rules and thus thought it would be ok (and actually Monstrata said it's fine too), daaaaamn
Q.Q
but I don't wanna I actually pretty much legit can't, bc simplifying rhythms even more + that style = probably even more monotonous than Natsu's Snow White
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help pls
00:37:676 (1) - 00:58:843 (1,2) - pls that just looks AAAAA, you used smaller grids before so pls avoid this if you find a way to do it :S uhm I think something bugged out for you bc don't know what the issues is, I'm already using Grid2 here so ??
01:00:176 (3) - 1/1 + circle works better imo (applies wherever you see it necessary) not imo ;( (I see no reason to have the 1/1 mapped, and I don't think the tail has to be clickable since it's rather surprising that there's a new sound there, so I'd rather not make it that dense)
01:11:843 (1) - 01:17:176 (1) - i think the sliders have a much better effect on their own if you delete these But the sounds on the circles seem equal to those on the sliders for me, so I see no reason not to map them (also it would be literally the same thing four times then lol)
01:22:510 (3,1) - i don't get why you need to do this, the 1/1 slider following the drums was very intuitive and then switching polarity for seemingly no reason isn't 01:23:343 (2,1) - work way better. There is a reason, the main melody has notes there again and that's what I'm focusing on, the reverse-sliders are basically just fillers - Would it be better if I turned the circles into 1/2-sliders, or would that be too dense?
02:25:342 (1) - wh combo? combo shmombo


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LOL pls, the song isn't called "PC Error"

Mazziv wrote:

Okorin wrote:

WARNING: This map needs over 12 Star Priority BEFORE it should be considered for ranking/bubbling it has 12 SP oko ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Mazziv wrote:

WARNING: This map needs over 12 Star Priority BEFORE it should be considered for ranking/bubbling it has 12 SP oko ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Bonsai wrote:

hah, you wasted two stars bc I hadn't given him kudosu yet 8^)

thanks >///<

will update with mod-response in a year or so when I'm finished with changing stuff xd

Okorin wrote:

[general]
I still think you should make an easy, since normal is 0.8x base sv i don't think sliders will get too long even on an easy if it uses like 0.6x, nerfing the normal would ruin spread to hard too ya well I'll see if I get any idea how to design an Easy that won't be boring af, this will be on hold for a bit xd

[map error]
first 3 objects: would you mind using a slider to not throw ppl into this without much of a reference beat..? would destroy the whole structure, and I mean you have the reference-tempo from the preview, and if anyone cares about not getting 100 on the first object than they can just retry
i think you should do this kind of rest 1/2 slider thing more 00:52:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
currently all that changed is the spacing component, the part still requires a lot more speed than the rest of the diff, id suggest doing that thing to 00:49:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:54:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - so taht you alternate between harder to follow rhythm and less hard to follow every 2 measures. ieeees, I'll make the first object of every combo a 1/2-slider bc that emphasizes melody more consistently yes yes

[normal]
about first point:
http://puu.sh/oTdqT/bd3c6f48e4.jpg http://puu.sh/oTdsn/bf12b59664.jpg wth are those
01:01:010 - i think making this one a click would work way better as it then would follow the same idea as 00:59:676 (2) - , which in turn would be more intuitive. uhmm making it clickable doesn't work for me bc then I'd have two clicks in a row here and that doesn't feel nice to me, making 01:00:843 (4) a 1/2-reverse-slider probably works so I'll think about doing that
01:06:176 (4) - sam frodo?
01:22:510 (3,1) -uhh your argument for this is basically nonsense because you create the main focus with this slider and break it by following a different layer, i really think ignoring the melody is way more intuitive, as i see this as a polarity problem rather than anything else. your face is nonsense the thing is that if I made 01:20:676 (2) reverse once more, then these would be exactly the same as 01:23:343 (2) even though there is more stuff happening, which I strongly dislike and I it doesn't seem intuitive to me at all so ya. Since it looks like I'm not gonna nerf this diff, I could also make the (3)s a 1/2-slider, we'll see about that

Bonsai wrote:

Okorin wrote:

[general]
I still think you should make an easy, since normal is 0.8x base sv i don't think sliders will get too long even on an easy if it uses like 0.6x, nerfing the normal would ruin spread to hard too ya well I'll see if I get any idea how to design an Easy that won't be boring af, this will be on hold for a bit xd

[map error]
first 3 objects: would you mind using a slider to not throw ppl into this without much of a reference beat..? would destroy the whole structure, and I mean you have the reference-tempo from the preview, and if anyone cares about not getting 100 on the first object than they can just retry
i think you should do this kind of rest 1/2 slider thing more 00:52:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
currently all that changed is the spacing component, the part still requires a lot more speed than the rest of the diff, id suggest doing that thing to 00:49:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:54:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - so taht you alternate between harder to follow rhythm and less hard to follow every 2 measures. ieeees, I'll make the first object of every combo a 1/2-slider bc that emphasizes melody more consistently yes yes

[normal]
about first point:
http://puu.sh/oTdqT/bd3c6f48e4.jpg http://puu.sh/oTdsn/bf12b59664.jpg wth are those
01:01:010 - i think making this one a click would work way better as it then would follow the same idea as 00:59:676 (2) - , which in turn would be more intuitive. uhmm making it clickable doesn't work for me bc then I'd have two clicks in a row here and that doesn't feel nice to me, making 01:00:843 (4) a 1/2-reverse-slider probably works so I'll think about doing that
01:06:176 (4) - sam frodo?
01:22:510 (3,1) -uhh your argument for this is basically nonsense because you create the main focus with this slider and break it by following a different layer, i really think ignoring the melody is way more intuitive, as i see this as a polarity problem rather than anything else. your face is nonsense the thing is that if I made 01:20:676 (2) reverse once more, then these would be exactly the same as 01:23:343 (2) even though there is more stuff happening, which I strongly dislike and I it doesn't seem intuitive to me at all so ya. Since it looks like I'm not gonna nerf this diff, I could also make the (3)s a 1/2-slider, we'll see about that

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Okorin wrote:

D
Basic
00:33:676 - 00:36:343 (2,3) - warum nich http://puu.sh/p76DW/4f93e5968d.jpg ? Pressing 2 sliders in quick succession feels ew oh ok yes
01:02:843 (1) - 01:08:176 (1) - 2x 1/1 slider pls wenn die laenger repeaten ists cool NO NO DON'T TAKE MY BABIES AWAY FROM ME NOOO
01:41:510 - http://puu.sh/p76Um/21280811c0.jpg ieeeeeees
02:10:676 (1,2,1,2,1) - THIS IS CONFUSING AF THINK OF SOMETHING LESS CONFUSING with preferably less overlaps OKOK well I made it without overlaps, can the rhythm stay? xd

that's the big stuff i would like to see changed before moving this anywhere

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Bonsai wrote:

me calling Irre