Knife Party - Give It Up · forum

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-04-14T14:24:24+00:00

@Namki
I changed basic to easy and fixed all that you mentioned in easy and insane.Thanks a lot!

@Kei

Aww I love this song, I'd have loved to make a GD for you. Snap ):>>>maybe next time lol

[Basic]

00:06:530 (2) - I think this pattern would flow better if you move this circle up so it follows up with these two sliders curves.
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>>>yes
00:20:668 (2) - This hitfinish is too loud and unfitting. I think it'd sound much better if you remove it.>>>fixed
00:28:944 (3) - I'm picky when it comes to blankets. Try improving this one? >>>lol improved
00:31:703 (3) - Same here. Use tiny grid size and polish up this one?>>>i just separated them
00:33:772 (2,3) - I think a slider would follow the vocals better than two circles. It'd be also easier for beginners so consider changing this.>>>i will keep for now lol
01:10:323 (3,4) - These hitfinishes sound too redundant and noisy. I think it's better if you remove them and only use hitfinish to emphasize parts like 01:11:703 (1).
01:12:392 (2) - Redundant hitfinish again imo ):
01:18:599 (3) - Same here.
01:21:358 (3,4) - And here
01:22:737 (1) - Change this wavy slider slightly so it blankets 01:23:772 (2)?
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01:24:116 (3) - And also here (Hitfinish thing. I'll stop pointing out them. If you agree then change the other kiai hitsounds as well)
01:34:806 - This pause is weird. You've been following the music 1/2 constantly so it ends up feeling like a randomly ignored beat. Consider adding a circle here (or better replace (2) with a 1/2 slider to fill up this part).
01:45:841 (2,3) - To improve the flow here, select 01:46:185 (3,4) and move them over here:
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>>>above all fixed except the hitsound part.I need to recheck hitsound lol

@Trent83 no change

@fuccho changed a lot thanks!!

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-04-14T14:28:57+00:00

Lyric's and Dynamix's updated.

Now almost everything done

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-04-15T12:41:20+00:00

m4m here sorry for being late!
[Easy]

00:07:910 - 00:10:668 - 00:13:427 - 00:16:185 - you shouldn't ignore the kicks here imo; circles at all these points perhaps? remember to put a clap on all of them
00:24:461 (4,1) - reverse the order of these maybe? (circle at 00:24:461 and slider at 00:24:806). downbeat here should be clickable imo. remember to fix the hitsounds
01:08:599 (3,1,2) - blankets here could use some improvement. change (1)'s angle and uncurve (2) a bit
01:13:082 (3,4) - 01:21:358 (3,4) - 01:40:668 (3,4) - this is kiai time, so this feels a little underwhelming, even for an Easy. maybe use 1/1 sliders instead of circles here?

[Kencho]

00:13:082 (2) - just a minor thing, but maybe move this to about x428 y 276 so the (1) is centred in this slider's middle more nicely
yeah looks good. not really any more to say.

[lsahi]

00:18:772 (3) - tbh a repeat slider doesn't really work because the emphasis on 00:18:944 should be clickable. do something similarly to what you did at 00:17:392 (3,4) -
00:23:427 (5) - downbeat should be clickable; all the other downbeats in the verse are, why isn't this one?
00:59:116 (4,5,1) - i'd move this to the left a bit to blanket 00:58:599 (3) - because right now it just looks kind of eugh
01:31:703 (2,3,4) - move all of this so that the (4) stacks with 01:31:013 (1) - for nicer aesthetics

[Lyric]

00:20:668 (1,2) - mm maybe you should switch the NCs here
00:39:461 - shouldn't ignore the beat here imo. maybe make t00:39:289 (2) - into a 1/2 slider?
00:43:945 (8,1) - blanket here could be better; make the (1) less curvy by a bit
not bad

[Insane]

00:07:910 (1) - 00:10:668 (1) - 00:13:427 (1) - 00:16:185 (1) - 00:18:944 (1) - why is the SV here so short? sure there's a NC to help distinguish it i guess but it doesn't really make sense here imo
00:20:496 - i wouldn't ignore this beat; maybe add a circle here?
00:38:427 (6,1) - distance is kind of crazy here. feels overdone
00:44:116 (1) - 00:48:254 (1) - if you're going to include 1/1 sliders to the bridge of the song i sort of expect a bit more than this; they feel too long compared to everything else here as a result. maybe use a pattern similar to 00:51:013 (1,2) - or something?
00:55:151 (1,2) - 00:56:530 (1,2) - 00:57:910 (1,2) - if you're going to use a slider-whistle here i expect it at 00:59:289 (1,2,3,4) - as well. it doesn't sound consistent because you're missing a set (the set here should be 4 times, not 3 times) and it feels a bit cut off as a result
01:10:323 (1,2,3,4) - i'd use the same shape for all these sliders and same rotation for these sliders. it just comes across as random as it is right now: (1) is the only slider with a different shape, (3) is a 21 degree rotation of (2), and (4) is a 33 degree rotation of (3), why are these numbers so random? same suggestion can be applied to 01:21:358 (1,2,3,4) -
01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - 01:24:116 (1,2,1,2) - tbh i can see what you're going for with the second and fourth kiai time having 1/4 sliders here instead of the jumps you used in the first and third kiai, but this makes it a little more unpredictable. i sort of expected jumps here like the first kiai. this part should be consistent for all kiais in my opinion, e.g. 1/4s or jumps, not both.
01:27:910 (7) - i think the stack here kills the momentum you created with the jumps here; it kills the flow. same with 01:49:979 (7) -

[Dynamix]

00:05:496 (3) - 00:08:254 (1) - shouldn't really be 3/4 sliders imo. these are similar to 00:11:013 (1) - and 00:13:772 (1) -, so how come these ones are 3/4 sliders?
00:31:358 (4) - 1/4 repeat slider doesn't feel nice here since there's no beat at 00:31:444. a 1/2 slider would work better here
00:45:323 (4) - i wouldn't have a 1/2 stack like this here; kills the momentum/flow imo.
01:28:082 (4) - maybe Ctrl + G the direction here.. the movement from (3) --> (4) --> (1) feels more nice because the distances are less extreme
yeah i'm not good with slider-jump heavy maps

hope this helps!

lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-04-15T18:32:43+00:00

hmmmm...

[General]

the correct BPM is 87, so you better double up the SVs on each diff. it's just a slow beat based on my feelings

[Dynamix]

hitsound issues
the hitsound placement is kinda wrong at 00:05:151 - part. recheck them again. ex. 00:05:151 (1) - clap | 00:05:496 (3) - whistle head | 00:05:841 (4) - whistle tail, not head | 00:06:530 (6) - clap and so on
00:20:668 (1) - not really recommend to use a normal hitsounds. remove finish and whistle, then set it back to drum hitsound and leave it there. it will be good enough. also, mute the tail by using 5% volume on that tail
00:21:358 (3,4,5,6) - overmap on that blue tick. i didn't hear any notes on that blue tick. use a note instead
00:22:047 - on this part, i only heard whistle and clap only on each 2/1 ticks (white tick one). might wanna recheck this
00:34:979 (4,5) - due to (5)'s downbeat, i suggest you make it away from (4) rather than making it closer
00:44:116 - the correct hitsound should be like this for example: 00:44:461 (2) - clap, not whistle | 00:44:806 (3) - whistle, not clap, but the tail end does | 00:45:496 (1) - whistle | 00:45:841 (2) - clap | 00:46:185 (3,6) - whistle ((6)'s head) | 00:46:358 (4,6) - clao ((6)'s tail)
01:05:496 (1) - use soft hitsound instead + remove whistle
01:14:461 (3,4,5) - yo, since you changed the slider speed on these sliders, use NC on those sliders after the slider speed change
01:36:530 (1,2,3) - ^

[Insane]

hitsound issues. the examples are available like in Dynamix'
00:20:668 (1) - mute the tail with a 5% volume soft hitsound
00:44:116 (1) - remove clap
00:46:875 (1) - remove clap and finish since there's no downbeat sound here
00:49:634 (1) - ^
00:52:392 (1) - ^
00:59:634 (3,4,5) - not even a neat triangle here. use Ctrl + Shift + F for a better neat triangle
01:05:841 (1,2) - remove clap since it's just a vocal voice only
01:50:323 (1) - you don't need a normal hitsound sampleset here. just use Sampleset: Auto and Additions: Normal will do. also, remove clap

[Lyric]

same like Dynamix', that is a hitsound issue. i provided the example there
00:37:910 (5,6,7,8,1) - i prefer a constant DS spacing here
01:00:668 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - i don't know... but it looks kinda boring to have a same slider placement here. try something different like using a 1/2 slider + 2 notes
01:14:375 (7) - remove this note since there's no note here
01:25:496 - i heard a note here. add 1 note
01:47:565 - ^

GL!

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2016-04-17T03:14:43+00:00

From my queue.
Where is Normal?
[Kencho's Advanced]
00:20:668 (1) - A single hitcirlce is enough.

[lsahi]
00:07:392 (5) - It's a little weird that you put downbeats on slider-ends. Better to make them clickable.
00:16:530 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Do not fill up this part with plain 1/2s. It's hard to interpret what you are folllowing.
00:21:703 (5) - It should end at 00:21:875. There's an audible beat.
00:22:737 (4) - Better to make the slider-end clickable. There's an apparent vocal.
00:31:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Agian, plain 1/2s are quite boring.
00:44:116 (1) - Not a fan of 3/4s rhythms you've placed in this part. No music supports it. Worse, you literally ignored the 1/2 beats, that's terrible.

Kiai is even easier than other parts of the map. It's not a nice idea.

[Lyric's]
00:11:530 (2,3,4,5) - It's not a wise choice for rhythm. Just keep consistent with 00:12:910 (7,8) - . Also the flow at 00:12:047 (4,5,6) - is somewhat weird.

[Insane]
Needs more work on spacing control. Current jumps are pretty random.
00:05:496 (1,2) - They are too close.
00:07:910 (1) - 00:10:668 (1) - These sudden SV changes play quite confusing.
01:47:910 (1,2,3,4) - Pretty hard to read due to the stacks.

Good Luck!

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-04-17T03:20:51+00:00

Modded via in-game.

Log

21:34 sahuang: hi:) it's fine
21:35 sahuang: just wanna some help/advice for my map cuz idk how to continue to work on it lol
21:35 Gero: sure thing
21:35 Gero: could you np it?
21:35 sahuang: ye
21:35 *sahuang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/952007 Knife Party - Give It Up]
21:36 Gero: oh nice
21:36 Gero: dling
21:36 sahuang: xD
21:43 Gero: looks nice~
21:43 sahuang: yup
21:46 Gero: I just see something weird at your difficulty
21:46 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/916824 Knife Party - Give It Up [Insane]]
21:46 sahuang: 00:05:841 - i accidentally deleted sth
21:47 Gero: yeah I was about to say something at that part...
21:47 sahuang: ye
21:47 sahuang: maybe when i'm dealing with SB i deleted it lol
21:48 Gero: overall the mapset is good
21:49 sahuang: so what's the major issues atm?
21:49 Gero: for now I think those 1/8 ends at the Dynamix's difficulty are the main problem because there no sounds at 1/8
21:50 Gero: I mean 01:13:082 (3,4,5,6) -  this is really good but 01:14:030 - this 1/8 sounds is quite weird in my opinion, how about adding some lines at all sliders like this with a 10% of volume?
21:52 sahuang: ye
21:52 Gero: is not an unrankable issue but could be improved to avoid that kind of sounds that obviously doesn't fits with the song
21:52 sahuang: true,i will tell him about this
21:53 Gero: 00:20:668 (1) - this was way too much, I see the point of this change of speed but it's quite hard to guess that there are a 2x velocity so I'd like to decrease it a bit, something like 1.80 would be alright
21:54 sahuang: umm...maybe a little bit too fast
21:55 Gero: 00:21:358 (3,4,5,6,1) - this definitely it's overmapped, a rework pattern will be the best.
21:55 Gero: 00:31:272 (3) - same as above
21:55 sahuang: btw is 1/8 slider like these unrankable?
21:55 sahuang: cuz bpm is 87
21:56 sahuang: if i use bpm*2 and sv/2 is it ok?
21:56 Gero: it's not unrankeable but the density of that pattern makes no sense with the density of the song at that part
21:56 Gero: kiai and other parts works well but this not at all
21:57 sahuang: i see..
21:57 Gero: that's all for the last difficulty, I see no much issues here
21:57 sahuang: yeah
21:58 sahuang: ye
21:58 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/916824 Knife Party - Give It Up [Insane]]
21:59 Gero: 00:51:875 (4,5,6) - I just have one thing that is annoying me a little bit, how about to decrease the distance snap between the notes, the cursor movement is kinda forced at here 
22:00 sahuang: yes,might be good to even stack them
22:00 Gero: 01:14:375 - hey there's a sound, are you sure don't you wanna map it? or is it intentional?
22:00 Gero: 01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - really nice, I like it
22:01 Gero: 01:36:444 - same as above about the note
22:01 sahuang: will be hard to add a note so i just skipped it lol
22:01 Gero: alright, it's okay then
22:01 Gero: it's not that difficult but up to you anyways xD
22:01 sahuang: but i will consider this to see if it looks better
22:01 sahuang: :o
22:02 Gero: Lyric's Hyper looks clean
22:02 sahuang: yeah
22:03 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/927521 Knife Party - Give It Up [lsahi's Hard]]
22:03 Gero: 00:37:220 (5,1) - antijumps in hard difficulties is not the best choice, I think he/she could make it consistent
22:04 sahuang: ye
22:04 sahuang: will tell him
22:04 Gero: 00:47:565 (3) - I don't even know what he/she is following here, 1/4 it's better
22:05 Gero: and also the New Combo patterns are inconsistent as well
22:05 sahuang: ye
22:05 sahuang: should recheck NC i guess
22:05 Gero: 01:03:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - this pattern looks like insane+
22:06 sahuang: too many reverse sliders?xD
22:06 Gero: is not just that, the way how was mapped is quite difficult to read for Hard players 
22:07 sahuang: ye
22:07 Gero: and also the spam of 1/2 before that makes it so dense and obviously it looks like Insane
22:07 Gero: instead he/she mapped the kiai less dense than non-kiai parts
22:07 Gero: so yeah it's so weird 
22:07 sahuang: i see it
22:08 sahuang: maybe a reason is that the kiai part's variety of beats is even less than the non-kiai part
22:09 Gero: yeah maybe is because that but the spam of 1/4 is not that good for hards
22:09 sahuang: true
22:10 Gero: Kencho's Advanced looks really great
22:10 sahuang: yes~~quite a nice mapper
22:11 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/924941 Knife Party - Give It Up [Easy]]
22:11 Gero: 00:31:013 (2) - the head of the slider is touching the HP bar, I think you could move it down a couple of grids to avoid it
22:12 sahuang: ohh yes i didn;t notice that
22:13 Gero: 01:06:185 - quite weird that the strong beat of the song were ignored just because the rule about after one spin, want I suggest is deleting the slider and make something like a slider art
22:13 Gero: and mapping 01:06:185 -  this beat
22:14 sahuang: ye,i was think about it
22:14 sahuang: but the gap rule
22:14 sahuang: maybe slider art will be better
22:14 sahuang: what i was thinking was to end spinner 01:04:806 -
22:14 Gero: that's all what I can suggest, overall your mapset looks almost ready for a nomination
22:15 Gero: yeah you could move the spinner there
22:15 Gero: but it sounds a bit weird, don't you think that?
22:15 sahuang: yes!!!!that's what i thought
22:15 Gero: that's why I suggested replacing it by a slider
22:15 sahuang: yeah
22:16 sahuang: i see
22:17 Gero: and btw would be nice if you reply those mods in your thread before calling a BN, you know to avoid a double work xD
22:17 sahuang: yeah,replied almost all of them xD
22:18 sahuang: i will fix your suggestion as well :D
22:18 Gero: best of luck with this for now, I'll post my mod in the thread if you don't mind~
22:19 sahuang: but you know it's hard to find BN check and bubble stuff lol
22:19 sahuang: yea
22:19 sahuang: sure
22:19 sahuang: thanks a lot

Marked with a star icon for now, I think you could improve it a little bit more before getting this mapset Nominated.

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-04-17T15:56:59+00:00

from queue

[Dynamix]

00:07:910 (5) - 00:08:254 (1) - 00:10:668 (5) - 00:20:841 - etc. should silence or atleast lower volume of slider ends like this, because it's kinda overmap. overall it's strange how you use 70 volume for whole song in stronger and weaker parts

can't really say much here except that it's very antiflow and spacing is really weird, because you have as no jump on strong sounds and 00:34:634 (2,4) - as jumps as weak sounds, just an example. good diff still

[Insane]

00:05:841 - missing note, you follow the vocals after that are same sound you didn't map here

00:14:980 (6) - unsnapped

00:22:047 (1) - would be much cooler if you gave some emphasis to this note like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/IgChnJV.png

01:21:358 (1,2,3,4) - just make one and copy it, now it looks kinda dumb for me, the DS doesn't matter as long as it's correctly aligned

01:25:496 (1) - 01:47:565 (1) - don't think it's rankable to have clickable objects muted, increase the volume to like 20-30 atleast

01:38:254 (2) - slider end unsnapped

01:50:323 (1) - move a bit further from the slider, just looks too close right now

[Lyric]

most of your blankets are off, some are too blatant so just saying

01:47:392 (6,7) - trippl?

gl

Harubi Lira

147 posts

Joined May 2012

Harubi Lira 2016-04-19T06:32:32+00:00

Doormat

[lsahi]

00:18:772 (3) - tbh a repeat slider doesn't really work because the emphasis on 00:18:944 should be clickable. do something similarly to what you did at 00:17:392 (3,4) -fixed
00:23:427 (5) - downbeat should be clickable; all the other downbeats in the verse are, why isn't this one?
00:59:116 (4,5,1) - i'd move this to the left a bit to blanket 00:58:599 (3) - because right now it just looks kind of eughfixed
01:31:703 (2,3,4) - move all of this so that the (4) stacks with 01:31:013 (1) - for nicer aestheticsfixed

Regraz

[lsahi]
00:07:392 (5) - It's a little weird that you put downbeats on slider-ends. Better to make them clickable.all fixed
00:16:530 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Do not fill up this part with plain 1/2s. It's hard to interpret what you are folllowing.fixed
00:21:703 (5) - It should end at 00:21:875. There's an audible beat.fixed
00:22:737 (4) - Better to make the slider-end clickable. There's an apparent vocal.fixed
00:31:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Agian, plain 1/2s are quite boring.recomposed
00:44:116 (1) - Not a fan of 3/4s rhythms you've placed in this part. No music supports it. Worse, you literally ignored the 1/2 beats, that's terrible.

Kiai is even easier than other parts of the map. It's not a nice idea.composing

Good Luck!

Gero

22:03 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/927521 Knife Party - Give It Up [lsahi's Hard]]
22:03 Gero: 00:37:220 (5,1) - antijumps in hard difficulties is not the best choice, I think he/she could make it consistentfixed
22:04 sahuang: ye
22:04 sahuang: will tell him
22:04 Gero: 00:47:565 (3) - I don't even know what he/she is following here, 1/4 it's betterfixed the part
22:05 Gero: and also the New Combo patterns are inconsistent as wellfixed
22:05 sahuang: ye
22:05 sahuang: should recheck NC i guess
22:05 Gero: 01:03:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - this pattern looks like insane+
22:06 sahuang: too many reverse sliders?xD
22:06 Gero: is not just that, the way how was mapped is quite difficult to read for Hard players
22:07 sahuang: ye
22:07 Gero: and also the spam of 1/2 before that makes it so dense and obviously it looks like Insane
22:07 Gero: instead he/she mapped the kiai less dense than non-kiai parts
22:07 Gero: so yeah it's so weird
22:07 sahuang: i see it
22:08 sahuang: maybe a reason is that the kiai part's variety of beats is even less than the non-kiai part
22:09 Gero: yeah maybe is because that but the spam of 1/4 is not that good for hards
22:09 sahuang: true

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Lyric

293 posts

Joined September 2013

Lyric 2016-04-20T12:38:24+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[Lyric]
00:20:668 (1,2) - mm maybe you should switch the NCs here >>>OKay, fixed
00:39:461 - shouldn't ignore the beat here imo. maybe make t00:39:289 (2) - into a 1/2 slider? >>>you are right
00:43:945 (8,1) - blanket here could be better; make the (1) less curvy by a bit >>>Okay
not bad

lit120 wrote:
[Lyric]
same like Dynamix', that is a hitsound issue. i provided the example there >>>yes
00:37:910 (5,6,7,8,1) - i prefer a constant DS spacing here >>>unconstant according to Pereira006's mod
01:00:668 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - i don't know... but it looks kinda boring to have a same slider placement here. try something different like using a 1/2 slider + 2 notes >>>i keep this
01:14:375 (7) - remove this note since there's no note here >>>no, there's a note
01:25:496 - i heard a note here. add 1 note >>>this may cause here overmapped, nothing here imo
01:47:565 - ^

Regraz wrote:
[Lyric's]
00:11:530 (2,3,4,5) - It's not a wise choice for rhythm. Just keep consistent with 00:12:910 (7,8) - . Also the flow at 00:12:047 (4,5,6) - is somewhat weird.
>>>00:12:047 (4) - 这里明显音要重一些，和后面那个不一样，我认为不适合用滑条尾带过这里。这样做也可以避免图给人一种无聊地来回拉滑条的感觉。flow已改。

Strategas wrote:
[Lyric]

most of your blankets are off, some are too blatant so just saying >>>fixed

01:47:392 (6,7) - trippl? >>>no thanks

UPDATE

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sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-21T07:10:07+00:00

lsahi and Lyric's updated

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-21T12:07:01+00:00

Doormat wrote:
m4m here sorry for being late!
[Easy]
changed all except (3.4) stuff,i think click is fine here

[Insane]
no change part:
00:44:116 (1) - for such kind i can see it's fine now
00:59:289 (1,2,3,4) - keep for now
for the kick slider i just wanna make it unpredictable so yeah

hope this helps!

lit120 wrote:
hmmmm...

[General]
the correct BPM is 87

[Insane]
hitsound issues. the examples are available like in Dynamix' for hitsounds i follow a rule based on a circular of 16 beats,should be fine
00:20:668 (1) - mute the tail with a 5% volume soft hitsound
00:44:116 (1) - remove clap
00:46:875 (1) - remove clap and finish since there's no downbeat sound here
00:49:634 (1) - ^
00:52:392 (1) - ^
00:59:634 (3,4,5) - not even a neat triangle here. use Ctrl + Shift + F for a better neat triangle
01:05:841 (1,2) - remove clap since it's just a vocal voice only
01:50:323 (1) - you don't need a normal hitsound sampleset here. just use Sampleset: Auto and Additions: Normal will do. also, remove clap
changed some hitsound,but the rest i think it's fine,anw as long as the hitsounds fit the song
GL!

Regraz wrote:
From my queue.
Where is Normal?
Well,actually imo the gap between easy and advanced(which i will change to normal in a minute) is not big enough to be unrankable. As you can see although in Kencho's Normal there are some 1/4 sliders,the rhythm is simple and it's not that hard to hit. In easy there is only few intervals and
Easy (1.49 stars, 108 notes)
Kencho's Advanced (2.17 stars, 183 notes)
The note difference isn't that much as much as i can tell/
I added some difficulties to Easy and made it harder btw,so i think no need for another diff or sth

[Insane]
Needs more work on spacing control. Current jumps are pretty random.
00:05:496 (1,2) - They are too close. well...in the first part every two sliders like these have similar distance so i dont think they are really close tbh
as u can see 00:05:496 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the distance is somehow similar,if not the same

00:07:910 (1) - 00:10:668 (1) - These sudden SV changes play quite confusing. removed
01:47:910 (1,2,3,4) - Pretty hard to read due to the stacks.
for 01:26:358 (3) - and 01:48:427 (3) - i make 2 triangles,which will be fine
Good Luck!

Last edited by sahuang 2016-04-22T13:49:53+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-21T12:13:46+00:00

Strategas wrote:
from queue

[Insane]

00:05:841 - missing note, you follow the vocals after that are same sound you didn't map here
accidentally deleted
00:14:980 (6) - unsnapped
oh yes fxxk
00:22:047 (1) - would be much cooler if you gave some emphasis to this note like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/IgChnJV.png
will be hard to change the rest so keep lol(anw sb can put some emphasis on here lol
01:21:358 (1,2,3,4) - just make one and copy it, now it looks kinda dumb for me, the DS doesn't matter as long as it's correctly aligned
you are right.both changed
01:25:496 (1) - 01:47:565 (1) - don't think it's rankable to have clickable objects muted, increase the volume to like 20-30 atleast

01:38:254 (2) - slider end unsnapped
20% ,yes,should be 0.75x
01:50:323 (1) - move a bit further from the slider, just looks too close right now
sure thing

gl

thx

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-21T12:39:40+00:00

Kencho's and Dynamix's and mine fixed

Now waiting for BN!!!

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-04-24T01:38:16+00:00

Kencho's Normal
00:08:254 (1) - This is a mistake right? extend to the red tick

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-24T01:42:11+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Kencho's Normal
00:08:254 (1) - This is a mistake right? extend to the red tick

Yes you are right

thx

updated

pw384

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pw384 2016-04-24T01:45:26+00:00

nb，我也好想做刀党啊（

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-04-24T02:25:35+00:00

384059043 wrote:
nb，我也好想做刀党啊（

xDDD

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2016-04-24T02:26:51+00:00

Hello as asked
Sugestion,

Storyboard

00:22:047 - until 00:44:116 - your pulse effect is rather odd, the main pulse image is mainly on center of playfield, yet the main bg is moving to the right side of the playfield, it makes the effect on both images not sync, as you can see on the pulse around this timestamp 00:24:806 - and so on until 00:44:116 -

Dynamix

00:07:910 (5) - 00:10:668 (5) - Add nc? to make the slow slider more readable
00:12:392 (1,3) - A complete stacking should be avoid to make gameplay less confusing. So my sugestion is try to move (3) somewhere else which make the pattern more readable
00:13:082 (3) - About the rhythm choice, I think it would be great if we click the beat on 00:13:427 - . So a rhythm like this http://puu.sh/otqQr/6e57f520e5.jpg can improve the playability of the map
00:20:668 (1) - On its tail, you can use soft sampleset to silence the slider end http://puu.sh/otrnx/08010692a4.png
01:38:944 (6,7) - Try to have a little more spacing on them, like you did on 01:27:910 (3,4) - ? literally they have same music so it would be nice if they more consistent

Insane

00:20:668 (1) - On its tail, you can use soft sampleset to silence the slider end http://puu.sh/otrnx/08010692a4.png
01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - 01:24:116 (1,2,1,2) - 01:40:668 (1,2,1,2) - and 01:46:185 (1,2,1,2) - Your rhythm choice is not consistent with 01:07:565 (1,2,3,4) - 01:13:082 (1,2,3,4) - 01:29:634 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:35:151 (1,2,3,4) - , yet they have same music on that part. To make it less confusing at least they should be same imo

Isahi

00:06:875 (4,5) - Too far, not sure why put a jump there, yet on same rhythm here 00:09:634 (4,5) - and 00:12:392 (5,6) - you use regular ds
01:03:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - That part overmapped as for a lower Hard the rhythm should be less dense than Hyper, so my sugestion try to use more simple or easier rhythm on that part

Good luck

sahuang

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Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-04-24T11:49:30+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Hello as asked
Sugestion,

Storyboard
00:22:047 - until 00:44:116 - your pulse effect is rather odd, the main pulse image is mainly on center of playfield, yet the main bg is moving to the right side of the playfield, it makes the effect on both images not sync, as you can see on the pulse around this timestamp 00:24:806 - and so on until 00:44:116 -

Storyboard will be fixed by the creater

Insane
00:20:668 (1) - On its tail, you can use soft sampleset to silence the slider end http://puu.sh/otrnx/08010692a4.png
fixed
01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - 01:24:116 (1,2,1,2) - 01:40:668 (1,2,1,2) - and 01:46:185 (1,2,1,2) - Your rhythm choice is not consistent with 01:07:565 (1,2,3,4) - 01:13:082 (1,2,3,4) - 01:29:634 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:35:151 (1,2,3,4) - , yet they have same music on that part. To make it less confusing at least they should be same imo
i have to say that this is made on purpose. As you can see,each kiai(all together 4 kiai) has 2 such kind of music,so there are 8 altogether.If i make them the same it will be boring to play ofc,so i use 4 short sliders and 4 jumps patterns.
Also,there is actually a rule here: for the first and third kiai i use small jumps and for the second and fourth kiai i use sliders. So kiai(1+2)=kiai(3+4) in terms of pattern, which seems alright to me.

Good luck

Thanks a lot

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2016-04-24T12:14:01+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Storyboard
00:22:047 - until 00:44:116 - your pulse effect is rather odd, the main pulse image is mainly on center of playfield, yet the main bg is moving to the right side of the playfield, it makes the effect on both images not sync, as you can see on the pulse around this timestamp 00:24:806 - and so on until 00:44:116 -
Indeed, I shall fix this.

Updated. The pulse effects, movement and vector scales, are now synchronized with the background, both off kiai and on kiai.
(The colors and particles deviate slightly as a result of random variables)
http://puu.sh/otQAu/730cec2425.osb

yf_bmp

Elite Storyboarder II / Elite Mapper

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Joined December 2011

yf_bmp 2016-04-25T15:30:49+00:00

short sb mod mainly about reducing the burden on low-end machine

[Storyboard]

00:00:668 - from here, please notice that those particle.png are still available after they are out of screen.

Usually the more particles exsit, the more lags will be caused.
So just turn "F" to "0" after they are off-screen.
00:44:116 - same as above.
00:44:116 - 01:06:185 - BG.png (Line 7) is totally unnecessary here. Hide it or delete it.

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

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Naxess 2016-04-25T16:04:47+00:00

yf_bmp wrote:
[Storyboard]
00:00:668 - from here, please notice that those particle.png are still available after they are out of screen.

Usually the more particles exsit, the more lags will be caused.
So just turn "F" to "0" after they are off-screen.
I didn't realize, thanks for pointing it out.
00:44:116 - same as above.
00:44:116 - 01:06:185 - BG.png (Line 7) is totally unnecessary here. Hide it or delete it.
Don't know how the line system works, but yes, I shall see to it that this is fixed.

~~Updated.~~
EDIT: I accidentally removed some stuff, give me a moment

EDIT2:
Updated.
Background image is now hidden, particles are optimized and overall SB Load is greatly reduced.
http://puu.sh/oxG07/44e8a5a648.osb

Last edited by Naxess 2016-04-27T14:42:42+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

sahuang

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Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-04-26T09:16:28+00:00

Dynamix's fixed as requested by him.
lsahi's updated

All finished and waiting for nomination

Last edited by sahuang 2016-05-02T21:56:57+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Harubi Lira

147 posts

Joined May 2012

Harubi Lira 2016-04-26T09:16:58+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Isahi
00:06:875 (4,5) - Too far, not sure why put a jump there, yet on same rhythm here 00:09:634 (4,5) - and 00:12:392 (5,6) - you use regular dsI just tried to make a blanket and maybe it seems not as good as I thought
01:03:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - That part overmapped as for a lower Hard the rhythm should be less dense than Hyper, so my sugestion try to use more simple or easier rhythm on that partfixed
thx

code

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324,329,54634,1,8,0:0:0:0:
245,318,54806,1,2,0:0:0:0:
245,318,54979,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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138,335,56444,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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476,223,57565,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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Vert

424 posts

Joined October 2013

Vert 2016-05-11T10:42:44+00:00

no kd

01:28:254 (1,1,2,1) - 这几个滑条建议重新扭一下，有点蠢

可以，比我第一次看强不少

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-05-12T08:34:17+00:00

Vert wrote:
no kd

01:28:254 (1,1,2,1) - 这几个滑条建议重新扭一下，有点蠢

可以，比我第一次看强不少

ok,thx

I need u Gero <3

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-06-24T02:41:50+00:00

Changes/Fixes

Resnapped some green lines in the last difficulty.
Added green lines at Hard.
Changed some patterns at Insane.
Changed the volume to hear the end of the sliders in Hard/Extra.

Log

2016-06-23 20:18 Gero: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/952007 Knife Party - Give It Up [Dynamix's Insane]]
2016-06-23 20:18 Gero: check the snaplines, some of them are unsnapped
2016-06-23 20:19 sahuang: oh
2016-06-23 20:19 Gero: almost all
2016-06-23 20:19 Gero: btw
2016-06-23 20:19 sahuang: yeah,i see
2016-06-23 20:19 Gero: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/927521 Knife Party - Give It Up [lsahi's Hard]]
2016-06-23 20:20 Gero: 01:06:789 - on Isahi's Hard, I would like to do the same thing I suggested in the last difficulty, about silence the end of this kind of sliders and rhythms
2016-06-23 20:20 Gero: it's kinda annoying to hear that sound when there's nothing, you know
2016-06-23 20:20 Gero: 01:11:703 (1) - all of them
2016-06-23 20:20 sahuang: i see
2016-06-23 20:20 sahuang: yeah
2016-06-23 20:20 sahuang: that's true
2016-06-23 20:20 sahuang: 10%will be nice i think
2016-06-23 20:21 Gero: use 10 in both difficulties then
2016-06-23 20:21 sahuang: sure
2016-06-23 20:22 Gero: that's all, call me back once you fixed it
2016-06-23 20:22 Gero: it wont be that hard tbh
2016-06-23 20:22 sahuang: sure
2016-06-23 20:22 sahuang: i will ask them for permission so it's a quick fix lol
2016-06-23 20:22 Gero: sure
2016-06-23 21:13 sahuang: uploaded lol
2016-06-23 21:14 sahuang: snapped all and made volume 15%
2016-06-23 21:14 Gero: alright
2016-06-23 21:14 sahuang: and for Insane i also rearranged some patterns so it looks better
2016-06-23 21:14 Gero: which patterns did you changed?
2016-06-23 21:15 sahuang: just some jumps
2016-06-23 21:15 sahuang: like
2016-06-23 21:15 sahuang: 00:21:358 (3,4,5,6) -
2016-06-23 21:16 sahuang: 00:28:944 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2016-06-23 21:16 sahuang: and things like 01:20:668 (1,2,3,4) -  etc.
2016-06-23 21:17 sahuang: not adding stuff,just change shape lol
2016-06-23 21:17 Gero: okay

~ Bubbled ~

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-06-24T02:42:49+00:00

Thanks Gero!

Edit: after next mod i will add 'Naxess' to tags since he created the storyboard.

pw384

2,287 posts

Joined January 2012

pw384 2016-06-24T12:25:04+00:00

nb

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-07-01T23:11:37+00:00

Heey~~ from my queue uvu

General - clear!
I just don't understand the hitsound pattern in most of the diffs, they seem pretty inconsistent? Would be nice if someone could explain them.. o:

Easy
00:30:323 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you could re-arrange this slightly so (2) doesn't overlap with the default HP bar!

Kencho's Normal
01:00:668 (1,1) - you need at least two beats of recovery time in Normal diffs, please end the spinner earlier.
Otherwise a really nice diff, I just wish you would clean up the stacks. >:
There are quite a few of them that overlap with previous objects,.. if you want to see how your stacks look while playing enable View > Stacking.
Here's a short list, should make it a bit easier for you to fix them, if you want to. (just stack them manually?)
00:11:013 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/pMKth.jpg (not that much of an issue)
00:16:530 (1,2,3) -
00:31:530 (4,1,2,3) - not that bad, but because of two stacks pretty confusing o:
00:36:530 (3,4,1,2,3) -
00:39:289 (2,3,1) -
00:42:565 (4,1,2,3) -
00:59:289 (1,2,3) -
01:38:599 (2,3,1) -
01:40:668 (1,2,3) -

lsahi's Hard
00:06:358 (3) - and 00:09:116 (3) - can't say I really agree with them, because you leave the sounds at 00:06:185 - and 00:08:944 - blank, while they're just as strong as the others.. I mean, ya, it's just the intro, but the rhythm would still be super simple even if you add circles there? (which would be my suggestion to keep the pace steady, but up to you)
00:11:358 - and 00:14:116 - are similar to ^
00:17:910 (1) - consider removing NC to keep it consistent with previous NCs, not really needed.
00:20:668 (1) - same here, but since music changes, it'd be fine to keep this, I think
00:23:427 (6) - heavily overlaps with default HP bar, try to avoid that please o:
01:01:358 (1) - and 01:02:737 (1) - NCs are unnecessray again, imo. Remove?
01:16:530 (3) - would be nice if the sliderend was clickable instead, because of the vocal. It says "give" right there, so would be nice if this was similar to 01:05:496 (1,2,3) -
01:26:530 (3) - and 01:27:910 (4) - imo would be better to replace them with two circles, there's no important sound on the 1/8 so having the reverse there doesn't match well, I think. Also on (4) there are the vocals again and they should be clickable, imo.
01:29:979 (2,3,4) - move the whole stack a few pixels further down to avoid the overlap with previous slider. (only visible while playing)
01:37:737 (1,2) - move NC to (2) instead of (1) to have this consistent with 01:15:151 (2,3,1,2) -
also consider removing NCs on 00:37:565 (1) - and 00:40:323 (1) - , you have the same kind of stack here 01:08:944 (1,2,1) - and here 01:42:047 (1,2) - and all of them should be consistent, imo.
Hmh, tbh I don't really agree with some sliders ending on 1/8 beats.. They're not even present in Hyper and only few of them in Insane and Extra, using them in Hard doesn't work well for the spread, imo.. but might just be me.

Lyric's Hyper
Hmmh, plays very nice, I just found the claps starting here 00:22:392 - really weird. Consider replacing them with a custom hitsound? They also become inconsistent after the next pattern, so you might wanna re-check them.. //after looking through all diffs I noticed that this doesn't only apply to this diff, but still. xD
01:42:737 (3,4,5,6) - I'm not too sure about this pattern, because (3,4) looks very similar to (5,6) distance-wise, but the snap is different, so would be nice if the jump from (3,4) was removed, even if it's just small.

Insane
00:10:668 (1) - 00:13:427 (1) - 00:16:185 (1) - 00:18:944 (1) - any reasons for NCs here? Looks a bit confusing to me. Idk, I'd expect them to be different from the other sliders, but they aren't.. 00:20:668 (1) - IS different, so that's okay, but the others?
01:06:185 (1) - would be nice if you could increase spacing here slightly, because it should have more impact than 01:05:841 (1,2) - I think.
01:07:565 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:29:634 (1,2,3,4) - are so different from 01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - 01:40:668 (1,2,1,2) - ..why? Variety is nice, but the impact of the patterns is so different, while the music is the same.. doesn't make sense to me. >:
01:10:323 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:358 (1,2,3,4) - 01:32:392 (1,2,3,4) - 01:43:427 (1,2,3,4) - consider changing all of those (1)s to something different maybe.. the sound on (2,3,4)s is clearly seperate from (1)s, so it would be nice if that could match with the visuals.
01:25:496 (1) - 01:47:565 (1) - they feel very off, because the sliderhead starts at nothing.. I mean there's a break and it has a huuuge impact, but there is no on-going sound, so following a slider doesn't make any sense, especially not if there is a different sound starting in the middle of the slider (01:25:668 - and 01:47:737 - ) which shouldn't be completely ignored, imo..

Dynamix's Extra
Are you sure it's x's and not x'?
00:10:668 (1) - why do you ignore the sound at 00:10:841 - ? 00:05:496 (1) - and 00:07:910 (1) - don't have any sound on the 1/2 so they're fine, but here is one and covering it up by the slidertrack doesn't match well, imo. :c
00:13:599 - shouldn't here be another circle? There is a sound and the pace doesn't change so it feels a little weird to have a gap here. Especially since you kind of mapped the previous similar sound with ^
and then here 00:18:944 (5) - you could've used another extended slider because there is no other beat and an on-going sound, but here you decide to not follow that.. looking at all of that together seems a bit contradicting. D:
00:20:668 (1) - music slows down, so why do you increase SV? Feels off, imo, because so much movement doesn't go well with a slow-down in the music. And it gets quieter, too. Also, in comparison to this, 00:21:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - doesn't work to well, because the movement is close to the same as 00:20:668 (1) - while it should have a bit more impact, I think.. because it's leading to 00:22:047 (1) -
00:29:634 (1) - if you're following the vocals with the sliders, then this should be a 1/4 slider, too, no?
00:31:013 (2,3) - migth be just me, but they feel too close considereing the high spacing between (1,2)
00:34:461 (1,2,3) - spacing feels weird here, because the strong sounds are on (1,3), but the jump is from (1,2).. reduce spacing between (1,2) and increase between (2,3)?
00:38:944 (2,3,4) - even considering slider leniency I think (3) is a bit too far from (2).. or rather it's not differentiable that (2,3) are 1/8 apart and (2,3) 1/4, because they look the same. Would be better to make this clear, similar to 00:40:668 (3,4,5) - for example
00:54:634 (4,5,6) - should be euqally spaced, imo, cause sound is the same on all circles.
01:05:496 (1) - sound ends on the 1/4, not the 1/8, would match better to snap it like that, imo
01:47:220 (2) - heavily overlaps with HP bar, consider moving it somewehre else?
01:50:323 (5) - should have NC for consistency with previous patterns
yah, didn't say much about the Kiai parts, because it feels very exaggerated. The speed is somewhat fine, but the inconcistent 1/8 usage, especially when you ignore other, stronger sounds that way, feels off. (to me!)

Hm, so I really like the song and there are things in each diff that are mapped well and play nice, but the set as a whole doesn't look ready to me tbh. It's not bad, the Insane for example is nice, it lacks just some consistency here and there; similar in the Extra just with the 1/8 usage and some SV changes. So (imo!!) the set could be polished a little more. There's nothing unrankable, but there is still room for improvement. (Not only what I pointed out could be slightly better, also the visuals with some messy looking overlaps, some jumps could be better balanced etc)

> I won't push this foward in the current state, because of the reasons stated above. Feel free (any of the mappers!) to ask me if you have any questions because of the mod or if you want to talk about this in detail.
Good luck for now!

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-07-01T23:21:36+00:00

[Dymanix' Exrtra]

00:05:496 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Considering that this is some kind of build up part to the first verse, I think this is slightly too fast and too jumpy as it would give a really cool effect to the player. It would be really cool if you could tone that down a little, keeping in mind that there are more spots where this emphasis would fit better.

I also don't quite get why you've silenced 00:05:496 (1,2) - and 00:08:254 (1,2) - only, but not the rest of these sounds. There are also weird antijumps, for example 00:13:082 (3,4) - , or 00:16:358 (5,1) - where you probably are better off with more spacing. 00:20:668 (1) - This however is cool. Anyway, I can only advise that you look over the first part again, as it seems way too heavy and slightly too random imo.

00:55:151 (1,2,3) - Stuff like this looks really confusing imo, I was not sure whether this is 3/4 or 1/2, because the sliders are coming in different sizes. You should reconsider this and place it slightly different to make it more obvious.

Would be nice if you could consider some of these things, if you have questions please ask them! gl

Lyric

293 posts

Joined September 2013

Lyric 2016-07-02T12:41:20+00:00

Squichu wrote:
Lyric's Hyper
Hmmh, plays very nice, I just found the claps starting here 00:22:392 - really weird. Consider replacing them with a custom hitsound? They also become inconsistent after the next pattern, so you might wanna re-check them.. //after looking through all diffs I noticed that this doesn't only apply to this diff, but still. xD
sounds not bad 'n i just want keep this :]
01:42:737 (3,4,5,6) - I'm not too sure about this pattern, because (3,4) looks very similar to (5,6) distance-wise, but the snap is different, so would be nice if the jump from (3,4) was removed, even if it's just small.
OK, I fixed this weird patten!

thanks for your mod!

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-02T13:10:24+00:00

Squichu wrote:
Heey~~ from my queue uvu

General - clear!
I just don't understand the hitsound pattern in most of the diffs, they seem pretty inconsistent? Would be nice if someone could explain them.. o:
Easy is copied from Insane, the hitsounds have a rhythm:
if u look at white and red lines in 1/2, 8 in a row: finish clap empty clap soft-whistle+finish soft-whistle+clap soft-whistle soft-whistle+clap (non-kiai)
in kiai i also follow the rhythm and it surely goes well imo
Also true in Dynamix's and Kencho's cuz all used the same system but made several minor changes according to their own taste.

Easy
00:30:323 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you could re-arrange this slightly so (2) doesn't overlap with the default HP bar!
sure,fixed

Insane
00:10:668 (1) - 00:13:427 (1) - 00:16:185 (1) - 00:18:944 (1) - any reasons for NCs here? Looks a bit confusing to me. Idk, I'd expect them to be different from the other sliders, but they aren't.. 00:20:668 (1) - IS different, so that's okay, but the others?
>>in fact the NCs are indeed unnecessary here so i removed. tbh i used 0.8x sv here b4 cuz sound is a little bit different, but Gero and others said sound here is the same and i think that's true. so removed.
01:06:185 (1) - would be nice if you could increase spacing here slightly, because it should have more impact than 01:05:841 (1,2) - I think. yes
01:07:565 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:29:634 (1,2,3,4) - are so different from 01:18:599 (1,2,1,2) - 01:40:668 (1,2,1,2) - ..why? Variety is nice, but the impact of the patterns is so different, while the music is the same.. doesn't make sense to me. >:
ok,i will explain this owo i think i explained b4 in this thread lol
i have to say that this is made on purpose. As you can see,each kiai(all together 4 kiai) has 2 such kind of music,so there are 8 altogether.If i make them the same it will be boring to play ofc,so i use 4 short sliders and 4 jumps patterns.
Also,there is actually a rule here: for the first and third kiai i use small jumps and for the second and fourth kiai i use sliders. So kiai(1+2)=kiai(3+4) in terms of pattern, which seems alright to me.

01:10:323 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:358 (1,2,3,4) - 01:32:392 (1,2,3,4) - 01:43:427 (1,2,3,4) - consider changing all of those (1)s to something different maybe.. the sound on (2,3,4)s is clearly seperate from (1)s, so it would be nice if that could match with the visuals.
hmm i dont think so. tho 1 and 234 have some difference, i just consider them as four 1/4 rhythms and i think it's good if i just use 4 identical sliders. when players play this they won't be misled and the pattern is symmetrical
besides u can have a look at the ranked version of this song by Shadren. in 01:10:309 (1,2,3,4) - etc. he used 4 sliders as i did so imo this is fine

01:25:496 (1) - 01:47:565 (1) - they feel very off, because the sliderhead starts at nothing.. I mean there's a break and it has a huuuge impact, but there is no on-going sound, so following a slider doesn't make any sense, especially not if there is a different sound starting in the middle of the slider (01:25:668 - and 01:47:737 - ) which shouldn't be completely ignored, imo..
well,there is indeed sound 01:25:496 - and 01:47:565 - . 01:47:565 - for example, because theres sound 01:47:910 - ,it would be nice if i emphasise the difference between 01:47:220 (2,1) - and use different sv,NC here plays well. about the sound 01:47:737 - i think it's ok to ignore.
what i can do now is to change 01:25:496 (1) - end to 01:25:668 - . idk if you want this change, i keep it for now and tell me if it deserves a change

The consistency in Insane imo is not that bad o.o 4 kiais follow same system and overall i use identical patterns.

Hm, so I really like the song and there are things in each diff that are mapped well and play nice, but the set as a whole doesn't look ready to me tbh. It's not bad, the Insane for example is nice, it lacks just some consistency here and there; similar in the Extra just with the 1/8 usage and some SV changes. So (imo!!) the set could be polished a little more. There's nothing unrankable, but there is still room for improvement. (Not only what I pointed out could be slightly better, also the visuals with some messy looking overlaps, some jumps could be better balanced etc)

> I won't push this foward in the current state, because of the reasons stated above. Feel free (any of the mappers!) to ask me if you have any questions because of the mod or if you want to talk about this in detail.
Good luck for now!

Well, carefully considered your ideas and made the diffs clearer. I guess the consistency is improved now and idk, the hitsounds seem good to me,Gero and some other testplayers. Waiting for all gders to fix the problem and let's see if we can push this forward!!!

Harubi Lira

147 posts

Joined May 2012

Harubi Lira 2016-07-02T14:50:46+00:00

Squichu

Heey~~ from my queue uvu

lsahi's Hard
00:06:358 (3) - and 00:09:116 (3) - can't say I really agree with them, because you leave the sounds at 00:06:185 - and 00:08:944 - blank, while they're just as strong as the others.. I mean, ya, it's just the intro, but the rhythm would still be super simple even if you add circles there? (which would be my suggestion to keep the pace steady, but up to you)
00:11:358 - and 00:14:116 - are similar to ^Here I only follow the strong drum, and after 00:11:013 (1) - a track of bass appears and I add it in my track too. I think even though it lost some certain point, I'd like the way.
00:17:910 (1) - consider removing NC to keep it consistent with previous NCs, not really needed.fixed
00:20:668 (1) - same here, but since music changes, it'd be fine to keep this, I thinkI keep it here
00:23:427 (6) - heavily overlaps with default HP bar, try to avoid that please o:Oops fixed
01:01:358 (1) - and 01:02:737 (1) - NCs are unnecessray again, imo. Remove?fixed
01:16:530 (3) - would be nice if the sliderend was clickable instead, because of the vocal. It says "give" right there, so would be nice if this was similar to 01:05:496 (1,2,3) -I'd tried my best to make it easy as well as follow the rhythm, I did that in 01:05:496 (1,2,3) because the slider before the tap is long enouth that players could prepare for the following tap. However, this pattern seems harder in the same way/
01:26:530 (3) - and 01:27:910 (4) - imo would be better to replace them with two circles, there's no important sound on the 1/8 so having the reverse there doesn't match well, I think. Also on (4) there are the vocals again and they should be clickable, imo.acceptable and fixed
01:29:979 (2,3,4) - move the whole stack a few pixels further down to avoid the overlap with previous slider. (only visible while playing)fixed
01:37:737 (1,2) - move NC to (2) instead of (1) to have this consistent with 01:15:151 (2,3,1,2) -
also consider removing NCs on 00:37:565 (1) - and 00:40:323 (1) - , you have the same kind of stack here 01:08:944 (1,2,1) - and here 01:42:047 (1,2) - and all of them should be consistent, imo.fixed except the last 2 because I think an NC follows the strong drums from the music.
Hmh, tbh I don't really agree with some sliders ending on 1/8 beats.. They're not even present in Hyper and only few of them in Insane and Extra, using them in Hard doesn't work well for the spread, imo.. but might just be me.Just like I've said above I think where I've placed a 1/8 pattern, I'll give enough time for players.

Thanks

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Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Haganenno 2016-07-02T22:29:52+00:00

[Easy]
01:00:668 (1) - extend spinner to here.

[Isahi's Hard]
00:06:185 - undermapped
00:08:944 - same
00:11:358 - same
00:14:116 - guess

[Insane]
00:38:082 (4) - Considering this hitcircle is a bit unexpected considering the blank space one pattern before, this hitcircle should be placed to be seen easier.

[Dynamix's Extra]
00:18:944 (5) - make it a slider that lasts to 00:19:203 -
01:18:599 (3,4,5,6) - lineair slider placement kills the momentum
01:25:668 (2) - feels bad
01:47:737 (2) - same

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-03T01:12:48+00:00

no change to Easy and Insane.

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-07-03T11:43:25+00:00

Squichu

Squichu wrote:
Kencho's Normal
01:00:668 (1,1) - you need at least two beats of recovery time in Normal diffs, please end the spinner earlier. Yea I know Normal diffs need at least two beats of recovery time, but this song is 87BPM, so it just need one beats in Normal diffs and it is enough.
Otherwise a really nice diff, I just wish you would clean up the stacks. >:
There are quite a few of them that overlap with previous objects,.. if you want to see how your stacks look while playing enable View > Stacking.
Here's a short list, should make it a bit easier for you to fix them, if you want to. (just stack them manually?) It is hard to fix, so I using CS3.4 then fixed overlap problem.
00:11:013 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/pMKth.jpg (not that much of an issue)
00:16:530 (1,2,3) -
00:31:530 (4,1,2,3) - not that bad, but because of two stacks pretty confusing o:
00:36:530 (3,4,1,2,3) -
00:39:289 (2,3,1) -
00:42:565 (4,1,2,3) -
00:59:289 (1,2,3) -
01:38:599 (2,3,1) -
01:40:668 (1,2,3) -

Kencho's Normal

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65841
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Give It Up
TitleUnicode:Give It Up
Artist:Knife Party
ArtistUnicode:Knife Party
Creator:sahuang
Version:Kencho's Normal
Source:
Tags:cut short drumstep dubstep abandon ship earstorm kencho lsahi lyric dynamix
BeatmapID:941950
BeatmapSetID:424397

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.4
OverallDifficulty:4.5
ApproachRate:5.5
SliderMultiplier:2.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,44316,54026
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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sahuang

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sahuang 2016-07-05T07:51:49+00:00

all updated and removed dynamix's diff on his request

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-07-06T21:40:48+00:00

rechecking--

General - still clear!

Easy
01:08:599 (4,1) - yah, well, blanket could be fixed with next update
01:15:841 (2,1) - would be nice if you could move 1's tail further from 2, so beginners won't confuse it with the sliderhead
01:29:634 (3) - consider making this consistent with 01:07:565 (3) - from first Kiai?
dunno how I missed these things earlier

Kencho's Normal
pretty lazy fix huh xD
00:39:806 (3,1) - still overlapping, tho. same for 00:59:806 (2,3) - and 01:38:599 (2,3,1) -
and about 01:00:668 (1,1) - no matter the bpm, the next hitobject becomes visible while the spinner is still active, which is really confusing for target players, that's why it should be avoided.

lsahi's Hard
Was the diff updated correctly? Cause I can't see any changes (even the parts that should've changed according to the reply)....?

Lyric's Hyper lookd good to me!

Insane
01:07:565 (1,2,3,4) - etc. I still don't really agree with the inconsistencies, but that's up to you ofc. What I think would be a nice addition is if these jumps had more impact than jumps like 01:09:634 (1,2,3,4) - ; they're very similar but the first pattern sounds much louder (to me at least), so if the spacing could be increased a bit that would fit slightly better, imo.

Well, as I said, I still think the set could be improved further before it gets qualified. Even if all of the suggestions above were applied, there's more that could be worked on, especially the visuals (imo).

Harubi Lira

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Harubi Lira 2016-07-07T12:35:23+00:00

I'm sorry that something goes wrong and I failed to upload my diff and just leave there without a check by myself.

Waiting sahuang for upload

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