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2nd CTB Match , Korean vs Chinese - End

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Shana
KOREAN SONGS LIST WAS CHANGE PLZ RE CHACK - edit in 12/8


Hello , All Chinese CTB players

sorry for using this thread , but we'd like to hold a match between the Chinese CTB players and the Korean CTB players. We deeply hope Chinese CTB pros can accept it and participate in the match.


The time is Dec.11th GMT +8 19:30
12月11日 土 七時30分


Eatch Team change their team list = 12/06

Eatch Team change Their song list = 12/08

Chinese Won Again



Chinese Candidates List:hy1hy1hy,KanaRin,DarkSoul,Silver Flash,MiKuNa,joynama [ DarkSoul back up is husukar ]
Chinese Judge : Mikhe


Korean Team: Shana,Kuzino,GGplay[N],redarrow62,tmddlenkt,Mitsuki- [ Kuzino Back up is Berncastell ]
Korean Judge : Shino



Players:
Both Chinese Team and Korean Team should send 3 players for the match. For considering the web factor, each team can list at most 6 players, each combination for 3 out of the listed 6 players will be ok to start the round. That means if the listed players are A,B,C,D,E,F, then your team can take the first round by players A,B,C while the second round by players D,E,F. Each team also have to provide a judge. If there is no internet issue, its better not to change the judge.

Rules
1.The game mode is CTB, team mode is "Head to Head", win condition is score, each team has 3 players and 1 judge. The responsibilities of judges are listed below.
2.Each team has the right to choose 5 songs with specific mods(hd, dt, hr or any combination of these three). The song information(including song name, diff, mod and dl link) should be provided at least one day before the match. One team cannot choose one song twice, but if both team choose one song, the song will be proceeded twice.
3.The final result displayed by osu will be the exactly result, that means lag, quit, will not be considered at all.

Win Conditions
1.We will get a result after each match. The result shows Rank1 to Rank6 of the song. Rank1 will get 6 points, rank2 will get 5 points, and so on...The team get a higher summing up points wins the match of the song.(its impossible to be draw for one song, don't let me tell why)
2.No matter what the result is. We will finish the 10 rounds. If 5:5 appears, we will see the total summing up points, the team with higher total summing up points will win. If the total summing up points also the same, the match result will be draw.

Resonpibilities of Judges.
1.The judge should be with good internet conditions. This means the judge has few possiblities to lost connection.
2.The judge is not allowed playing during the match. If the judge plays, his rank won't be count at all.
3.The judge should take a snapshot(F12) after each song match. Calculate the sum up points and report the results. If the reports of the two judges are different, we should find out who is wrong.

I think it will be both exciting and excellent. And of course the friendship and participation will be the first, and second is enjoying the match. The result will be recorded, but it just stand for each player's excellent performance, not any more.

Please let me know if theres any problem, we are waiting for your response. Finally. good luck for the match, let's make it the best match ever.


Chinse songs list
Chinese Songs list

1. Beatmap: Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother
Diff: Kirby Mix
Mod: HD+HR
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42244

2. Beatmap: Sakakibara Yui - Koi no Honoo
Diff: ignore's Slider Madness
Mod: HD
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41886

3. Beatmap: Koyote - Spark
Diff: insane
Mod: HD
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34507

4. Beatmap: Nightcore - Pinball
Diff: Madness O_O
Mod: HD+HR
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37433

5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638

korean songs list
Korean songs list

1. Bermei.Inazawa & Urbatronic Chopsticks - Melody Bmin Style HR HID
2. Rex - Heart of Witch [MXStyle] Hidden
3. Lia - My Soul, Your Beats! http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16272 [Hard] Hidden
4. NicoNico Chorus, Megurine Luka - Just Be Friends [Hard] Hidden
5. Hatsune Miku - Yellow [Insane] HIDDEN DOBBLE TIME
joynama
Thats interesting. I will ask for other Chinese players for their opinions. We'll give u response as soon as possible. :3
karta454515
I can be a 炮灰 in this match
Kuzino
i expect this match :D
Ibuki Suika
:?

I'm such a noob right to charge the onlookers
AFK_old
I missed the first Match and I will have to miss this time too :(

Wish everyone can enjoy this ^ ^
ZHSteven
~I can provide the map being used~
seriously, I think this time we can got another group of chinese player joining in, That will be more fun~
hy1hy1hy

ZHSteven wrote:

~I can provide the map being used~
seriously, I think this time we can got another group of chinese player joining in, That will be more fun~
good idea
i recommend mountainbrother :)
joynama

hebi wrote:

I missed the first Match and I will have to miss this time too :(

Wish everyone can enjoy this ^ ^
何必老爷不是20号之前能参加的么。。

另外有意参加此次比赛的可以跟帖报名,也可以通过其他途径(例如论坛的private message或者QQ)告诉我们你的意向以方便最终列出我方阵容给韩国队,我也会主动询问各位神触的意向。

只要对自己有信心的都可以报名,参与第一,尽管每场只能上3个,但我们最终安排会让所有人都至少上场一轮,没有人会怪谁发挥的不好,认真对待就行。我到时会列出有参加意向的人员列表,最终从中选拔出6人,当然这不是我一个人决定的,会综合斯蒂文、大可、小H、梦见、何必等等神触的意见。

PS: 由于比赛需要裁判一名,希望有网络较好的有意者能够报名裁判。
Ibuki Suika
joy爷加油^o^/
taq
I wanna participate as well. But im too weak now. hope u can enjoy this match :)
ZHSteven

hy1hy1hy wrote:

ZHSteven wrote:

~I can provide the map being used~
seriously, I think this time we can got another group of chinese player joining in, That will be more fun~
good idea
i recommend mountainbrother :)
.........
he is in singapore, not in china~
wmfchris

Kuzino wrote:

i expect this match :D

and I play much worse than before in CTB orz
Lillian0410
路過的小沙包替各位神觸加油!!
Silver Flash
加油^o^
Selee
SF不考虑下么?...

希望大可能来啊 www
karta454515
Da ja jia yo
mikhe
Can i be judge?, 11-12 December are saturday and sunday, and i think i can connect in the morning (in my country GTM+0).
And i'm nearly sure that my connection is good now ^^
joynama
Mikhe u r welcome :3

Chinese Team Candidates:

Judge:
Mikhe

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama
Mech_Maid

It's shame that DarkSoul, ahfly, hebi, etc. cannot attent the match. We will make the decision for final 6 players from the list. If anyone else want to attend the match. Please let me know.

PS: Judge is the most pro?!
Kuzino

joynama wrote:

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama
lol

chinese squad is powerful!!
karta454515

joynama wrote:

Mikhe u r welcome :3

Chinese Team Candidates:

Judge:
Mikhe

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama

It's shame that DarkSoul, ahfly, hebi, etc. cannot attent the match. We will make the decision for final 6 players from the list. If anyone else want to attend the match. Please let me know.

PS: Judge is the most pro?!

I have no self-confidence about this match,I am so weak now,but I will try if my mom says I can play PC on that day
Laune_old
:roll: 我是来围观神触的,11号果断当观众。我这么沙包手提还坏了TAT
wang211926
:) hello I'm road man~
Hm..Can I watch the game> <?
Topic Starter
Shana

wang211926 wrote:

:) hello I'm road man~
Hm..Can I watch the game> <?
sure you can :)
mikhe

Shana wrote:

[...] 3.The final result displayed by osu will be the exactly result, that means lag, quit, will not be considered at all.[...]
It means that if someone quit or fail he/she will get 0 points, correct or not??

#1--> 6 points
#2--> 5 points
#3--> 4 points
#4--> 3 points
#5--> 2 points
#6--> 1 point
Fail or Quit--> 0 points

¿Correct?
qwert962005
This is a good game^^

Korean and Chinese players are so pro~

GO~GO!! Earnest completes this competition :)

besides...

I can watch the game XD
a3639508
我想我也只能當圍觀組的份兒了!!~各位神觸加油啊!!
joynama

mikhe wrote:

Shana wrote:

[...] 3.The final result displayed by osu will be the exactly result, that means lag, quit, will not be considered at all.[...]
It means that if someone quit or fail he/she will get 0 points, correct or not??

#1--> 6 points
#2--> 5 points
#3--> 4 points
#4--> 3 points
#5--> 2 points
#6--> 1 point
Fail or Quit--> 0 points

¿Correct?
That's good question!
In my opinion, no one hope he will lost connection during the match. If someone lost, he is already quite unlucky. I think we should give him the equivalent points as his final rank. That means, if the player lost connection and the result shows he is #6, we need to give him 1 point.
We have to unify our views on such situations. Do you agree with me, mikhe? and also the Korean Team? If you have different views on it, please tell us. We will discuss for a better solution.
mikhe

joynama wrote:

That's good question!
In my opinion, no one hope he will lost connection during the match. If someone lost, he is already quite unlucky. I think we should give him the equivalent points as his final rank. That means, if the player lost connection and the result shows he is #6, we need to give him 1 point.
We have to unify our views on such situations. Do you agree with me, mikhe? and also the Korean Team? If you have different views on it, please tell us. We will discuss for a better solution.
I have the same opinion joynama, but i was thinking if someone can do "like his/her connection fail" and he/she could get advantage... Is it possible??, maybe no, because if someone quit during the game (exit osu!), normally his score will be less than other players that continued... but exist some case where someone can have advantage??
Anyway, if someone truly lost the connection he/she should have the score corresponding with his/her score. And if someone fail a song i think he/she should have the score corresponding with his/her position.

Examples:
  1. You are #3 near to final of the song, and you fail because something, you will have #6 because no one failed. (1 point)
  2. You are #3 near to final of the song (and you know you will fail), then you exit to osu (because you want) and then your position will have #3, because your "connection fail". Is it fair??
I think it shows that i wanted to say.. someone can get advantage to this situation.
P.S: If you don't understand something i said, no problem, i will explain again ><!
Koube Shio
我只能路过了==
Houraisan-Kaguya
啥时候搞了这种比赛的=A=
ZHSteven
@ mikhe:Good question!
normally I think we can consider lost connection as fail.
It is ture that that will be a litte unfair to those bad connection pros, but in my opinion, we are having an online match, provide a good connection is also an important part of the game~
joynama

mikhe wrote:

Examples:
  1. You are #3 near to final of the song, and you fail because something, you will have #6 because no one failed. (1 point)
  2. You are #3 near to final of the song (and you know you will fail), then you exit to osu (because you want) and then your position will have #3, because your "connection fail". Is it fair??
I think it shows that i wanted to say.. someone can get advantage to this situation.
P.S: If you don't understand something i said, no problem, i will explain again ><!
Yes, it is a problem, for we cannot judge whether he/she is truly lost connection. But I think both our Chinese side and the Korean side will not do such fake lost. Its meaningless for the match, even if this finally exact lead to winning. For our Chinese side, we will consider you are truly lost when you get a "quit" status, that's all. We want to win, very much, and, with our real skill.

Mikhe, you are really a responsible judge, thank you very much~ I believe you can handle all issues with a definatly impartial voice :3
Mech_Maid
just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
Topic Starter
Shana

Mech_Maid wrote:

just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
maybe i think rematch just that time , but it possibly impossible cuz eatch team songs are different and some time use mods too :)
joynama

Mech_Maid wrote:

just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
I know what shana means. It is really impossible to be draw when players get different points(sum 1 to 6 gets 21 which is an odd number). And it is barely possilble that 2 players get the same score in the match. If the situation happens, I suggest that we can follow one of the resolution listed below:

1. Just let the round be draw.
2. Compare other two team member's total score, the higher win.(the total score also can be draw????)
3. Round rematching.

And the following list is the final list of our Chinease Team:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
Silver Flash
MiKuNa
joynama
Mech_Maid
I thought the list would include steven, mengjian or karta, this is really a surprise to me.

Good luck to the Chinese squad!
joynama
We need to update our list, DarkSoul can attend the match now! But considering his poor internet, we need a backup for him. So changes is to add DarkSoul to the list and Silver Flash is his backup.
mikhe

joynama wrote:

We need to update our list, DarkSoul can attend the match now! But considering his poor internet, we need a backup for him. So changes is to add DarkSoul to the list and Silver Flash is his backup.
=/... i wish no problem in the match about it...

P.s: Nice, with darksoul, Chineasse are level up.
joynama

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
ばか!!!!!!

Please update it, "husukar is Darksoul's backup", and also please update the song lists of both teams :3
hy1hy1hy

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
and shana is oo baka lol
Topic Starter
Shana

hy1hy1hy wrote:

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
and shana is oo baka lol
/me slap hy1
Topic Starter
Shana
Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638
Kuzino

Shana wrote:

Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
mikhe

Kuzino wrote:

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
Funnier then. :twisted:
AFK_old
When I toggle the spoilerbox

The first song i see

1. Beatmap: Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother
Diff: Kirby Mix
Mod: HD+HR

~!@#$%^&*(

It must be chosen by Darksoul right?
Ibuki Suika

hebi wrote:

When I toggle the spoilerbox

The first song i see

1. Beatmap: Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother
Diff: Kirby Mix
Mod: HD+HR

~!@#$%^&*(

It must be chosen by Darksoul right?
这么蛋疼除了大可我想就剩光叔了X_X


擦,看了下两个列表,中国的list真是足够反人类啊X_X
taq
一群神触 时代的眼泪路过
joynama

Kuzino wrote:

Shana wrote:

Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
I have already sent shana PM to state the issue. In my opinion, we need to accept all songs chosen by another team, right? Since when we receive the list chosen by your team, some of our members also have the thought such as why there is such easy song in the list, this may leads to less interesting, etc.. But we also deeply believe you have the right and have your reason to put the song in the list, no matter how it can be adverse for our team, it's the match! Or you will be happy that we don't go all out for the match? If we do so, that is to be the exactly desecration of the match.
But, at the end, if you do want us to change the song list, you can decide the song list for us. We won't take any excuses for the match, we will accept all chanllenge. And

Korean players are always nice and best friends for us.
Shino
Sorry, but could you accept the 'backup' judge?
I already said to Shana "I will take the judge gladly" a few days ago, but I didn't except my grandfather's birthday was today.
So I have to participate the party, and I don't know when I can come back to osu!.
Again, sorry. If you accept this request, I'll notice 'who is the backup judge' as soon as possible.
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