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2nd CTB Match , Korean vs Chinese - End

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joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama
Mikhe u r welcome :3

Chinese Team Candidates:

Judge:
Mikhe

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama
Mech_Maid

It's shame that DarkSoul, ahfly, hebi, etc. cannot attent the match. We will make the decision for final 6 players from the list. If anyone else want to attend the match. Please let me know.

PS: Judge is the most pro?!
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Kuzino
Former osu!catch Champion: 2014
1,207 posts
Joined August 2009
Kuzino

joynama wrote:

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama
lol

chinese squad is powerful!!
karta454515
720 posts
Joined August 2008
karta454515

joynama wrote:

Mikhe u r welcome :3

Chinese Team Candidates:

Judge:
Mikhe

Candidates List:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
taq
Silver Flash
ZHSteven
ljqandylee
mengjian1998
karta454515
MiKuNa
joynama

It's shame that DarkSoul, ahfly, hebi, etc. cannot attent the match. We will make the decision for final 6 players from the list. If anyone else want to attend the match. Please let me know.

PS: Judge is the most pro?!

I have no self-confidence about this match,I am so weak now,but I will try if my mom says I can play PC on that day
Laune_old
20 posts
Joined January 2010
Laune_old
:roll: 我是来围观神触的，11号果断当观众。我这么沙包手提还坏了TAT
wang211926
28 posts
Joined October 2009
wang211926
:) hello I'm road man~
Hm..Can I watch the game> <?
Shana
748 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
Shana

wang211926 wrote:

:) hello I'm road man~
Hm..Can I watch the game> <?
sure you can :)
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Shana wrote:

[...] 3.The final result displayed by osu will be the exactly result, that means lag, quit, will not be considered at all.[...]
It means that if someone quit or fail he/she will get 0 points, correct or not??

#1--> 6 points
#2--> 5 points
#3--> 4 points
#4--> 3 points
#5--> 2 points
#6--> 1 point
Fail or Quit--> 0 points

¿Correct?
qwert962005
3 posts
Joined April 2009
qwert962005
This is a good game^^

Korean and Chinese players are so pro~

GO~GO!! Earnest completes this competition :)

besides...

I can watch the game XD
a3639508
2 posts
Joined April 2009
a3639508
我想我也只能當圍觀組的份兒了!!~各位神觸加油啊!!
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

mikhe wrote:

Shana wrote:

[...] 3.The final result displayed by osu will be the exactly result, that means lag, quit, will not be considered at all.[...]
It means that if someone quit or fail he/she will get 0 points, correct or not??

#1--> 6 points
#2--> 5 points
#3--> 4 points
#4--> 3 points
#5--> 2 points
#6--> 1 point
Fail or Quit--> 0 points

¿Correct?
That's good question!
In my opinion, no one hope he will lost connection during the match. If someone lost, he is already quite unlucky. I think we should give him the equivalent points as his final rank. That means, if the player lost connection and the result shows he is #6, we need to give him 1 point.
We have to unify our views on such situations. Do you agree with me, mikhe? and also the Korean Team? If you have different views on it, please tell us. We will discuss for a better solution.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

joynama wrote:

That's good question!
In my opinion, no one hope he will lost connection during the match. If someone lost, he is already quite unlucky. I think we should give him the equivalent points as his final rank. That means, if the player lost connection and the result shows he is #6, we need to give him 1 point.
We have to unify our views on such situations. Do you agree with me, mikhe? and also the Korean Team? If you have different views on it, please tell us. We will discuss for a better solution.
I have the same opinion joynama, but i was thinking if someone can do "like his/her connection fail" and he/she could get advantage... Is it possible??, maybe no, because if someone quit during the game (exit osu!), normally his score will be less than other players that continued... but exist some case where someone can have advantage??
Anyway, if someone truly lost the connection he/she should have the score corresponding with his/her score. And if someone fail a song i think he/she should have the score corresponding with his/her position.

Examples:
  1. You are #3 near to final of the song, and you fail because something, you will have #6 because no one failed. (1 point)
  2. You are #3 near to final of the song (and you know you will fail), then you exit to osu (because you want) and then your position will have #3, because your "connection fail". Is it fair??
I think it shows that i wanted to say.. someone can get advantage to this situation.
P.S: If you don't understand something i said, no problem, i will explain again ><!
Koube Shio
20 posts
Joined February 2010
Koube Shio
我只能路过了==
Houraisan-Kaguya
10 posts
Joined August 2009
Houraisan-Kaguya
啥时候搞了这种比赛的=A=
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
1,012 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven
@ mikhe:Good question!
normally I think we can consider lost connection as fail.
It is ture that that will be a litte unfair to those bad connection pros, but in my opinion, we are having an online match, provide a good connection is also an important part of the game~
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

mikhe wrote:

Examples:
  1. You are #3 near to final of the song, and you fail because something, you will have #6 because no one failed. (1 point)
  2. You are #3 near to final of the song (and you know you will fail), then you exit to osu (because you want) and then your position will have #3, because your "connection fail". Is it fair??
I think it shows that i wanted to say.. someone can get advantage to this situation.
P.S: If you don't understand something i said, no problem, i will explain again ><!
Yes, it is a problem, for we cannot judge whether he/she is truly lost connection. But I think both our Chinese side and the Korean side will not do such fake lost. Its meaningless for the match, even if this finally exact lead to winning. For our Chinese side, we will consider you are truly lost when you get a "quit" status, that's all. We want to win, very much, and, with our real skill.

Mikhe, you are really a responsible judge, thank you very much~ I believe you can handle all issues with a definatly impartial voice :3
Mech_Maid
10 posts
Joined February 2009
Mech_Maid
just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
Shana
748 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
Shana

Mech_Maid wrote:

just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
maybe i think rematch just that time , but it possibly impossible cuz eatch team songs are different and some time use mods too :)
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

Mech_Maid wrote:

just one more question... Shana said it's impossible to draw a song... and I can understand it is nearly impossible. But just in case if two players got same score, how to deal with it? Determining that with alphabet order?
I know what shana means. It is really impossible to be draw when players get different points(sum 1 to 6 gets 21 which is an odd number). And it is barely possilble that 2 players get the same score in the match. If the situation happens, I suggest that we can follow one of the resolution listed below:

1. Just let the round be draw.
2. Compare other two team member's total score, the higher win.(the total score also can be draw????)
3. Round rematching.

And the following list is the final list of our Chinease Team:
hy1hy1hy
KanaRin
husukar
Silver Flash
MiKuNa
joynama
Mech_Maid
10 posts
Joined February 2009
Mech_Maid
I thought the list would include steven, mengjian or karta, this is really a surprise to me.

Good luck to the Chinese squad!
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama
We need to update our list, DarkSoul can attend the match now! But considering his poor internet, we need a backup for him. So changes is to add DarkSoul to the list and Silver Flash is his backup.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

joynama wrote:

We need to update our list, DarkSoul can attend the match now! But considering his poor internet, we need a backup for him. So changes is to add DarkSoul to the list and Silver Flash is his backup.
=/... i wish no problem in the match about it...

P.s: Nice, with darksoul, Chineasse are level up.
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
ばか!!!!!!

Please update it, "husukar is Darksoul's backup", and also please update the song lists of both teams :3
hy1hy1hy
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
72 posts
Joined January 2010
hy1hy1hy

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
and shana is oo baka lol
Shana
748 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
Shana

hy1hy1hy wrote:

Shana wrote:

[DarkSoul is husukar]
and shana is oo baka lol
/me slap hy1
Shana
748 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
Shana
Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638
Kuzino
Former osu!catch Champion: 2014
1,207 posts
Joined August 2009
Kuzino

Shana wrote:

Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Kuzino wrote:

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
Funnier then. :twisted:
AFK_old
12 posts
Joined June 2009
AFK_old
When I toggle the spoilerbox

The first song i see

1. Beatmap: Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother
Diff: Kirby Mix
Mod: HD+HR

~!@#$%^&*(

It must be chosen by Darksoul right?
Ibuki Suika
1,254 posts
Joined March 2010
Ibuki Suika

hebi wrote:

When I toggle the spoilerbox

The first song i see

1. Beatmap: Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother
Diff: Kirby Mix
Mod: HD+HR

~!@#$%^&*(

It must be chosen by Darksoul right?
这么蛋疼除了大可我想就剩光叔了X_X


擦,看了下两个列表,中国的list真是足够反人类啊X_X
taq
43 posts
Joined July 2009
taq
一群神触 时代的眼泪路过
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

Kuzino wrote:

Shana wrote:

Would you change one Songs in Chinese songs list?



5. Beatmap: Galdeira - Almagest(for ctb)
Diff: ctb
Mod: No mod
Link: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/79638

that song is very hard D:

we can't do that....
I have already sent shana PM to state the issue. In my opinion, we need to accept all songs chosen by another team, right? Since when we receive the list chosen by your team, some of our members also have the thought such as why there is such easy song in the list, this may leads to less interesting, etc.. But we also deeply believe you have the right and have your reason to put the song in the list, no matter how it can be adverse for our team, it's the match! Or you will be happy that we don't go all out for the match? If we do so, that is to be the exactly desecration of the match.
But, at the end, if you do want us to change the song list, you can decide the song list for us. We won't take any excuses for the match, we will accept all chanllenge. And

Korean players are always nice and best friends for us.
Shino
1,319 posts
Joined April 2010
Shino
Sorry, but could you accept the 'backup' judge?
I already said to Shana "I will take the judge gladly" a few days ago, but I didn't except my grandfather's birthday was today.
So I have to participate the party, and I don't know when I can come back to osu!.
Again, sorry. If you accept this request, I'll notice 'who is the backup judge' as soon as possible.
Koube Shio
20 posts
Joined February 2010
Koube Shio
神触加油~
MisakaMikoto
383 posts
Joined July 2010
MisakaMikoto
神触们 加油 :)
Shana
748 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
Shana
chinese Vs Korean CTB Match Result..


6 : 4


We lose..

But we will win!! Wait chinese!! waaaaaaaa
Curisu
2,241 posts
Joined January 2010
Curisu

Shana wrote:

chinese Vs Korean CTB Match Result..


6 : 4


We lose..

But we will win!! Wait chinese!! waaaaaaaa
Rofl :D
Mech_Maid
10 posts
Joined February 2009
Mech_Maid
this result is really close and this match is very good I think.

Well done all players
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Shana wrote:

6 : 4
That Not correct, sorry i said wait to recount..5 : 5.

Well, oficial result now, [Exit] can see this and say if is wrong or not.
I post image round by round to do public the result and to prove that all is ok (nothing strange).

1st Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

2nd Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

3rd Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

4th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

5th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

6th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

7th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

8th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

9th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

10th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

Table of Counter (thanks so much ZHSteven!! ^^)
SPOILER


My final report is..
Chinisse : Korean <==Rounds==> 5 : 5 <==Score==> 110 : 100

Chinisse won 2nd Match!

Download: record.xls
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[Exit]
312 posts
Joined February 2009
[Exit]
wawa

hey, I think we lose T_T

Look at the 1st match.

We ranked 1,4,6 it means 6+3+1=10

That means yours 11.

... Well, plz re-check :)

-----------------------------

I feel honored to referee for this match :)

Not only Korean CTB users, but also China CTB users are good at CTB
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

[Exit] wrote:

Look at the 1st match.

We ranked 1,4,6 it means 6+3+1=10
All good, recheck my post please, look final spoilerbox! ;D

1st Round was Melody and the image shows ==> 6+3+1=10

Thank you :3
[Exit]
312 posts
Joined February 2009
[Exit]
I can't see any spoiler box !

could not loading
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
1,012 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven

mikhe wrote:

Shana wrote:

6 : 4
........somthing,.....
My final report is..
Chinisse : Korean <==Rounds==> 5 : 5 <==Score==> 110 : 100

Chinisse won 2nd Match!
hey~ your image all broken= = maybe fixed it? i want to see the 8th round record~~~
Edit: every thing fixed now~~
thank you ~mikhe~
For anyone who wants to see the details of the game, here is my final conter~
Download: record.xls
edit: one sc...
SPOILER
Last edited by ZHSteven , edited 5 times in total.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

[Exit] wrote:

I can't see any spoiler box !

could not loading

ZHSteven wrote:

hey~ your image all broken= = maybe fixed it? i want to see the 8th round record~~~
It's true... wait i see what happen.. D:
Oke, all good now :D, thanks about this bug ><
[Exit]
312 posts
Joined February 2009
[Exit]
Phew :) all over

Thank you for your effort mikhe~
hy1hy1hy
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
72 posts
Joined January 2010
hy1hy1hy

mikhe wrote:

Shana wrote:

6 : 4
That Not correct, sorry i said wait to recount..5 : 5.

Well, oficial result now, [Exit] can see this and say if is wrong or not.
I post image round by round to do public the result and to prove that all is ok (nothing strange).

1st Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

2nd Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

3rd Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

4th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

5th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

6th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

7th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

8th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

9th Round (Korean won)
SPOILER

10th Round (Chinisse won)
SPOILER

Table of Counter (thanks so much ZHSteven!! ^^)
SPOILER


My final report is..
Chinisse : Korean <==Rounds==> 5 : 5 <==Score==> 110 : 100

Chinisse won 2nd Match!
great job, judges, and steven :)
Faust
osu! Alumni
4,785 posts
Joined January 2009
Faust
Chinisse!!
qinche
257 posts
Joined December 2009
qinche
congraz to all of u, well done :D
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,848 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
A closer match :D I really do wish we could have this for osu! standard too

Congrats, and well done all of you :3
xy5909
0 posts
Joined May 2009
xy5909
Only have a look...
gdeath
1,598 posts
Joined May 2009
gdeath
I'd like to know which team get the final victory for the 1st competition?
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
1,012 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven

Shana wrote:

Chinese Won Again
That means Chinese win first match...
First match result
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