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LemonCthulhu
So I received some good advice on the last question I had, so I figured I'd ask about something else that's been giving me trouble. I'm sure most of this issue can be summed up by my inexperience, but I can't seem to play maps any higher than 200 BPM with any real accuracy. I can keep up for maybe 3-5 notes in a row, but slowly start to lag behind until I'm not hitting them at all. This is probably one of those "just play more" kind of problems, but I figured I'd ask to see if anyone has some good tips on how to improve tapping speed and stamina.

Thanks again!
Deva

LemonCthulhu wrote:

just play more
Yuudachi-kun
Pray to the low bpm gods
Trauter

LemonCthulhu wrote:

"just play more"
>Rank around 100k
>Wants to play 200 bpm
>NO
There is no real point in playing that fast maps on your rank but if you really wanna do them you need to play 180-195 bpm streamy maps until your hand will be exhausted
Yuudachi-kun
Below 220 is low bpm
Trauter
Well yea, but not for everyone
Barusamikosu
IMO
0-149: low
150-229: medium
230+: high

More brackets could probably be created between that, like "medium-low" "high-medium" etc.
(I picked 230 because around that point a player has to specialize in speed beyond standard DT maps, Rog, etc.)
Yuudachi-kun
Below 170: Non existat
170-189: Very extremely slow
190-219 Relaxingly slow
220-249: Medium
250-269 Fast
270-299: Very fast
300+: Sanic
Barusamikosu

Khelly wrote:

300+: Sanic
BPM 3000: Sanic
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/130054 :!:
-Makishima S-
0-129 = low
130-169 = medium
170-210 = high
211+ = RSI is looking for you, impossible, don't try at home without consulting with proper specialist
Nabel_old_1

Khelly wrote:

Below 170: Non existat
170-189: Very extremely slow
190-219 Relaxingly slow
220-249: Medium
250-269 Fast
270-299: Very fast
300+: Sanic
can't even do medium speed :'( feels bad
Saphirshroom

Nabel wrote:

Khelly wrote:

Below 170: Non existat
170-189: Very extremely slow
190-219 Relaxingly slow
220-249: Medium
250-269 Fast
270-299: Very fast
300+: Sanic
can't even do medium speed :'( feels bad
I like to take a look at Khelly's posts and then subtract 50 from every number that has something to do with BPM to adjust them to my standards.
-Makishima S-

Nabel wrote:

Khelly wrote:

Below 170: Non existat
170-189: Very extremely slow
190-219 Relaxingly slow
220-249: Medium
250-269 Fast
270-299: Very fast
300+: Sanic
can't even do medium speed :'( feels bad
I cannot even comment this stupid ranges... i am speachless. Facepalm + kappa doesn't even express my face when i see this.
Don't even look at this.

Nobody anymore support slower bpm players, rip Osu turning into whack-a-mole reaction based game. Peppy pls rename.
N0thingSpecial

[Taiga] wrote:

I cannot even comment this stupid ranges... i am speachless. Facepalm + kappa doesn't even express my face when i see this.
Don't even look at this.
In case you haven't notice this is cookiezi's range
-Makishima S-
In case you haven't notice this is cookiezi's range
Source? Becouse afaik:

--> dismiss all request over 250 bpm

Cookiezi barely touch anything above 250 so this is kinda weird.
N0thingSpecial

[Taiga] wrote:

Source? Becouse afaik:

--> dismiss all request over 250 bpm

Cookiezi barely touch anything above 250 so this is kinda weird.
I'm just fanboying ;-; no need to be that serious

(well in a ask.fm page he did say something along the lines of "240 for longers ones, 280 seems like the limit for shorter ones. Since I'm better at stamina rather than speed, so I can't really go that high. I feel like it's based on luck as well "

I mean deconstruction star has some 1/8 notes mini streams in it which makes it something near 300 bpm)
-Makishima S-
Cookiezi doesn't have ask.fm.
If you find any named shigetora or cookiezi it's fake and there was notice on reddit about that.

Additionaly there is no link to anything related with ask in his profile / stream / informations provided by eLy.
I wouldn't trust this at all.
N0thingSpecial

[Taiga] wrote:

Cookiezi doesn't have ask.fm.
If you find any named shigetora or cookiezi it's fake and there was notice on reddit about that.

Additionaly there is no link to anything related with ask in his profile / stream / informations provided by eLy.
I wouldn't trust this at all.
At least trust his replay of destruction star replay? *runs away taiga asserts too much dominance*
Yuudachi-kun
You should really be looking at players like Hvick, Rafis, Axarious, and Kynan if you want to think about speed.

You can safely ignore Taiga, though. He's a bad player whose opinions about speed are useless seeing as he's incapable of playing that way.

Just like I can't talk about acc x^ddddd
M a t t y

Khelly wrote:

You should really be looking at players like Hvick, Rafis, Axarious, and Kynan if you want to think about speed.
You can safely ignore Taiga, though. He's a bad player whose opinions about speed are useless seeing as he's incapable of playing that way.
[spoiler]Just like I can't talk about acc x^ddddd[/spoiler]


While i completely respect your opinion and think that these would probably be reasonable values for burst streams for regular players, basing speed off the fastest players just doesn't make a lot of sense.
However i do not agree with the point that [Taiga] made either that osu! is becoming a game of whack a mole when it comes to fast maps quite similar to the point that azer has been making . While i fully understand that slow maps are equally as good and important as any others, i don't think fast maps, DT maps and "Tv Size" maps should be thrown aside as bad maps by those who solely believe that "there's no rhythm involved" or "it's just an easy way to get pp that doesn't take skill."
The vast majority of the osu! community play the game for fun and for a lot of people playing high bpm and seeing how fast they can go is fun, for example, i struggle reading ar9, i often over-read ar10, and i do see this as a massive problem, but it has very little to do with the maps i play, i have been over-reading notes since i first started playing the game, but it doesn't mean i'm not following the rhythm.
It's ironic that you made the point of faster maps being like whack-a-mole, when the way i see it they more accurately follow the rhythm of the song than slower maps, which are usually based on the melody of the song.

Sorry for the rant, TL;DR The bpm of a map shouldn't affect the quality

Aaaand back on the original topic of improving Bpm;

In my opinion, the best way to improve your tapping and streaming speed is to play streamy maps and gradually build up your speed and stamina
My recommendations would be:

Rugran - d.m.c [Insane] https://osu.ppy.sh/b/161787
Hatsune miku - Mythologia's end [Mytho108ia] https://osu.ppy.sh/s/48979
xi - freedom dive [FOUR DIMENSIONS] https://osu.ppy.sh/s/39804
(playing maps on DT also helps a lot)

If you can pass freedom dive you'll be good enough to improve by yourself

also, just for my 50 cents on stream speed
Deathstreams:
[<150] - singletap/alternate
[150 - 164] - slow
[165-174] - medium slow
[175-199] - medium
[200-219] - medium high
[220-260] - high
[265-300] - ridiculously high
[300<] - Kynan pls

Burst streams
[<150] - ...not really a burst stream
[150 - 164] - the reason i cant play remote control
[165-174] - slow
[175-199] - medium slow
[200-219] - medium
[220-260] - medium high
[265-300] - high
[300<] - this will murder your stamina

Singletapping
[<150] - very relaxing
[150 - 164] - relaxing
[165 - 179] - medium bpm (often jump maps)
[180 - 209] - medium-high
[210 - 240] - considerably high
[240 - 260] - high
[270<] - Very high/alternate
Yuudachi-kun
Freedom Dive Four Dimensions DT Relax is pretty fun

M a t t y wrote:

Khelly wrote:

You should really be looking at players like Hvick, Rafis, Axarious, and Kynan if you want to think about speed.
You can safely ignore Taiga, though. He's a bad player whose opinions about speed are useless seeing as he's incapable of playing that way.
Just like I can't talk about acc x^ddddd
While i completely respect your opinion and think that these would probably be reasonable values for burst streams for regular players, basing speed off the fastest players just doesn't make a lot of sense.
I was talking about map bpm in general - not specific types of streams.
M a t t y

Khelly wrote:

Freedom Dive Four Dimensions DT Relax is pretty fun

M a t t y wrote:

Khelly wrote:

You should really be looking at players like Hvick, Rafis, Axarious, and Kynan if you want to think about speed.
You can safely ignore Taiga, though. He's a bad player whose opinions about speed are useless seeing as he's incapable of playing that way.
[spoiler]Just like I can't talk about acc x^ddddd[/spoiler]

While i completely respect your opinion and think that these would probably be reasonable values for burst streams for regular players, basing speed off the fastest players just doesn't make a lot of sense.

I was talking about map bpm in general - not specific types of streams.


Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding :P. It's just the way the thread was going it was suggesting deathstreams XD. My bad.
-Makishima S-
You can safely ignore Taiga, though. He's a bad player whose opinions about speed are useless seeing as he's incapable of playing that way.
At least i maintain higer global acc than you mr. "pr0" with completly fishy ceratin pp income.
Not being able to play high bpm doesnt make someone bad. At this point you made yourself look like a retard. Ty for doing job for me.

While i fully understand that slow maps are equally as good and important as any others, i don't think fast maps, DT maps and "Tv Size" maps should be thrown aside as bad maps by those who solely believe that "there's no rhythm involved" or "it's just an easy way to get pp that doesn't take skill."
The point is - Azer point same as mine is that newbies and people completly not capable of playing high AR and high BPM are forcing this and developing whack-a-mole reaction based gameplay which is bad. Someone with 2k pp is already retrying tons of times AR9.6 220 bpm and this leads to destroy this player ability to play main AR which is 9, he is incapable of reading it, playing it etc. Something below ceratin BPM is impossible for him to play. This people simply react on circles, they don't play rhythm game which leads to "farming accuracy".

The vast majority of the osu! community play the game for fun and for a lot of people playing high bpm and seeing how fast they can go is fun
I agree, everyone have right to have fun and as far as he have it, it's all fine.

It's ironic that you made the point of faster maps being like whack-a-mole, when the way i see it they more accurately follow the rhythm of the song than slower maps, which are usually based on the melody of the song.
Forgive me missunderstanding, it's my fault, i didn't specified point - whack-a-mole about reading maps, not playing a rhythm game but reacting on circles itself.
From small example, one of my "internet friends" who briong me back to osu long time ago is actualy complaining to me that he cannot play AR9, that it's too slow for him, he cannot gain any pp becouse everything is too slow, yet he cannot properly acc any faster map. That's the point of it.
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