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Hula
Well, this might be the world's most unbalanced map. The kiai has a ridiculous density of rhythms that are both hard to read and play, yet the start is totally undermapped in rhythm and mostly in patterns, it's just not what you would expect.

Also the patterns are mostly awkward and don't add emphasis. Think about how the cursor snaps.

edit: where are the hitsounds, cos i can't hear any on 100 music 80 hitsounds.



Come on guys, put some effort in here.
Topic Starter
09kami

Irreversible wrote:

Hi there

There are some things in the Extra diff which I'd like to point out before this goes to qualified.

[Extra]

00:08:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These notes are completely inaudible and do not provide enough feedback. Please find a louder hitsounding for them. fixed√
00:09:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ fixed√
00:22:783 (5) - NC mistake fixed√
00:21:479 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Your NCing here is inconsistent. From how I see it, you build the NC like this: 00:11:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , 00:12:348 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:13:653 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , then special case: 00:14:957 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . But 00:21:479 (1) - from here on, it's inconsistent. Please fix that. fixed√
00:39:740 (1) - Why the stack? You never used such a low spacing for this kind of sound, and it disturbs the movement massively. fixed√ Change position to 00:39:087 (1) -
00:50:011 (9,1) - Again. fixed√ Change position to 00:49:359 (4) -
Well, I do see some patterns in this part but the emphasis is rather poor and should be tidied up first.
01:04:848 (1) - Why the low spacing? You just kill movement again, and it does not feel intuitive. fixed√ Change position to 01:05:174 (2) -
01:07:131 (1) - Don't stack that, if you simply move it further away this will play way better. Also, from my experience people will most likely rage over this. fixed√
01:24:087 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - I do get the idea you wanted to do here, but you've used such a high spacing all the time this just seems unreadable, you should try lowering the spacing overall, and then go at it again, but everything looks so undistinguishable, that needs some work imo. fixed√
01:36:357 (1,2) - I suggest moving this further away because people most likely won't notice this properly. fixed√
01:39:495 (2,1) - So low spacing... fixed√
01:46:262 (7,1) - Swap NC to emphasize the stanza peorperly fixed√
01:48:136 (3) - Now that just really feels out of place, the spacing is way too low and a rule of thumb is never to start a 1/4 slider on a blue tick unless 100% indicated. This is most likely a free FC break for people, so i suggest that you try to build another rhythm here. fixed√
01:48:951 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why no NC? you've done that b4 fixed√
01:54:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the emphasis on that one again, is so weird. you go slow, then super high, and then really slow again, where's the reference to the song? fixed√

Well, from my point of view this is nowhere near a good quality state, so please look over the stuff I've mentioned properly and improve the map as good as you can. Some more people should post after my mod, so that might help you too. Feel free to explain your thoughts and maybe we can find a compromise, or I can help you more in detail.

Good luck !
Thank you guy! mabey i can't express my thoughts.my English is poor :cry: . but i want people to enjoy this song
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Yuii-
@Hula: You are supposed to go 80/100!!! Not 100/80 boooooy
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[EX]

00:33:218 (1) - 这种地方试试看把2和4往下摆 http://puu.sh/olA39/2b6131752c.jpg

00:39:576 (5) - 感觉还是00:39:087 (1,2) - 00:39:413 (4,5) - 等间距

01:12:919 (8,1,2) - 这地方拐角有点太生硬

01:13:653 (1) - 滑条的速度感觉有点太快而且感觉不如放转盘

01:18:381 - break拉到这里没啥意义,可以提前到 01:18:218 - 这里

01:22:294 - 同上,提前到 01:22:131 - 这里

01:31:913 (1) - 你牛逼啊

01:35:011 (1) - 其实这种地方放串挺好的

。。。。。。。。。
Topic Starter
09kami

T-Mac wrote:

[EX]

00:33:218 (1) - 这种地方试试看把2和4往下摆 http://puu.sh/olA39/2b6131752c.jpg fixed√

00:39:576 (5) - 感觉还是00:39:087 (1,2) - 00:39:413 (4,5) - 等间距 fixed√

01:12:919 (8,1,2) - 这地方拐角有点太生硬 fixed√

01:13:653 (1) - 滑条的速度感觉有点太快而且感觉不如放转盘 开始是放的转盘 感觉没有达到想要的效果才换的现在的滑条

01:18:381 - break拉到这里没啥意义,可以提前到 01:18:218 - 这里 这里不打算改 其实我不知道怎么改break...

01:22:294 - 同上,提前到 01:22:131 - 这里 同上

01:31:913 (1) - 你牛逼啊 /RUN

01:35:011 (1) - 其实这种地方放串挺好的 这个地方也是串改变成的滑条 放串的话 难度和主难度就差0.1星了

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Topic Starter
09kami





JJburstOwO
01:13:653 (1) - 酒神啊这个好丑啊为什么不拉个形状= =
01:43:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 这段音乐是明显四个一组,这样很怪的
01:45:120 (2) - 拆成两个滑条
01:47:892 (2) - 折返
01:50:826 (5) - NC
01:51:153 (1) - cancel NC
01:51:642 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里按照节奏应该把这两组提前到5的位置,我建议重摆一下
01:52:294 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 同理这个应该提早到3的位置,8个note用NC拆成两组
01:52:946 (2,3) - 仔细听 2尾巴和3中间才是应该按压的位置,建议1折返,3不要折返
02:04:604 (2,4) - 改成滑条干他娘的塞爆

大兄弟 我只能帮你到这了!

话说我可以要kud吗
Topic Starter
09kami

JJburstOwO wrote:

01:13:653 (1) - 酒神啊这个好丑啊为什么不拉个形状= = 这其实是把抽象派镰刀
01:43:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 这段音乐是明显四个一组,这样很怪的 前面这段是6个一组的01:43:000 (1,1) - 听这两个音的就可以知道
01:45:120 (2) - 拆成两个滑条 我重新改了下这段 fixed√
01:47:892 (2) - 折返 fixed√
01:50:826 (5) - NC fixed√
01:51:153 (1) - cancel NC fixed√
01:51:642 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里按照节奏应该把这两组提前到5的位置,我建议重摆一下 唔 这段我判断不用改
01:52:294 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 同理这个应该提早到3的位置,8个note用NC拆成两组 同上
01:52:946 (2,3) - 仔细听 2尾巴和3中间才是应该按压的位置,建议1折返,3不要折返 这里也不打算改
02:04:604 (2,4) - 改成滑条干他娘的塞爆 干他娘的塞爆

大兄弟 我只能帮你到这了! 谢大哥指点迷津

话说我可以要kud吗
不可以!
JJburstOwO
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0,272,124522,6,0,P|28:292|64:304,1,67.5000025749208,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,307,124685,2,0,P|115:310|152:302,1,67.5000025749208
335,331,124848,2,0,P|355:303|367:267,1,67.5000025749208,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,250,125011,2,0,P|373:215|365:178,1,67.5000025749208
177,53,125174,6,0,P|156:81|145:117,1,67.5000025749208,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
142,134,125337,2,0,P|138:168|146:205,1,67.5000025749208
512,112,125500,2,0,P|484:92|448:80,1,67.5000025749208,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
431,77,125663,2,0,P|396:73|359:81,1,67.5000025749208
256,192,125827,5,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,126316,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,260,126805,2,0,L|256:192,1,67.5000025749208,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,20,127131,5,8,0:0:0:0:
56,20,127621,1,8,0:0:0:0:
60,88,128110,2,0,L|56:20,1,67.5000025749208,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,236,128435,5,4,0:2:0:0:
408,236,128924,1,8,0:0:0:0:
474,228,129413,2,0,P|441:236|408:236,1,67.5000025749208,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,200,129658,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,129740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
Irreversible
Heey, I've checked the extra and you really made a good progress, it already looks a lot better. Sometimes, I can still see some issues with pattern consistency, but not as major as before anymore.

Maybe get some more good mods, and then ask BNs again! :)
Topic Starter
09kami

Irreversible wrote:

Heey, I've checked the extra and you really made a good progress, it already looks a lot better. Sometimes, I can still see some issues with pattern consistency, but not as major as before anymore.

Maybe get some more good mods, and then ask BNs again! :)
Thank you!!!
Sharlo
Hi mod for Extra here.

[Extra]
00:05:827 (1,2,3,4) - Makes me confused. Why you follow the drum 00:06:642 (4) - here and miss 00:06:153 - this one?
00:07:131 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:10:392 (5) - Reversing is no need here if you miss these sounds like 00:10:799 - 00:10:881 - 00:10:962 - . I don't recommend there is a note on 00:10:718 (6) -
00:14:957 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - idk why you made high spacing before and low spacing here. As for me, the music is the same strength for both.
00:16:261 (1,2,1,2) - I prefer that bodies not so curved as a weird flow which make this style looks like obsolete ones.
00:18:055 (4,1) - blanket better plz
00:18:544 (2) - Ctrl+G?
00:22:131 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, spacing is too low while comparing to the previous one
00:39:576 (5,1,2) - I don't like you use a similar spacing to make a different rhythm (1/2 and 1/1), change one please. It makes players unreadable.
00:52:783 (1) - ...... I never feel there is any issuses should be reduced here
00:53:435 - ??? Why blank. It doesn't like a Extra diff.
01:12:919 (8) - Wrong Finish?? Should be 01:13:000 (1) - ?
01:31:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Excuse me?
Topic Starter
09kami

Sharlo wrote:

Hi mod for Extra here.

[Extra]
00:05:827 (1,2,3,4) - Makes me confused. Why you follow the drum 00:06:642 (4) - here and miss 00:06:153 - this one? just piano but fixed√
00:07:131 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:10:392 (5) - Reversing is no need here if you miss these sounds like 00:10:799 - 00:10:881 - 00:10:962 - . I don't recommend there is a note on 00:10:718 (6) - fixed√
00:14:957 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - idk why you made high spacing before and low spacing here. As for me, the music is the same strength for both. no.这里的节奏和前面4方跳的地方比起来 音调要低一些
00:16:261 (1,2,1,2) - I prefer that bodies not so curved as a weird flow which make this style looks like obsolete ones. no.i think this good
00:18:055 (4,1) - blanket better plz fixed√
00:18:544 (2) - Ctrl+G? fixed√
00:22:131 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, spacing is too low while comparing to the previous one no?just fun
00:39:576 (5,1,2) - I don't like you use a similar spacing to make a different rhythm (1/2 and 1/1), change one please. It makes players unreadable. fixed√
00:52:783 (1) - ...... I never feel there is any issuses should be reduced here no
00:53:435 - ??? Why blank. It doesn't like a Extra diff. for piano
01:12:919 (8) - Wrong Finish?? Should be 01:13:000 (1) - ? fixed√
01:31:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Excuse me? /RUN I think ok! pls
谢偶像的摸
Rizia
discuss with mapper, reduce ar to 9.2
map looks fine
rebubbled
smallboat
Confirm the Extra diff quality fine, too. So let it requalified again. Requalified
caren_sk
congratz!!!

nice mapping .
Avena
*sigh*
lLinutionHD

lLinutionHD
dqs01733
ultimate mapper jjb
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