Stephen Fry, Stephen Hawking, and, erm...
Most influential people who don't remain public don't remain public until after their dead.Ph0X wrote:
Name me 3 people who are still alive that are known for their thinking.
Hmm, yes and no. I think the point of my teacher was that in todays society, thinkers don't become popular anymore. Kids like justin bieber do. Stephan Fry is a pretty good one actually, but I'm sure half my class wouldn't even know him.strager wrote:
Most influential people who don't remain public don't remain public until after their dead.Ph0X wrote:
Name me 3 people who are still alive that are known for their thinking.
Take Hitler for example. He wasn't that famous until after his party took over Germany killed a gatrillion and a quarter Jewfags.
I know that. I think the phenomenon comes from the fact that popularity is becoming very disproportionate. The second derivative of Bieber's popularity is greater than that of Hawking's by an amount larger than it would have been, say, 100 years ago.Ph0X wrote:
Hmm, yes and no. I think the point of my teacher was that in todays society, thinkers don't become popular anymore. Kids like justin bieber do. Stephan Fry is a pretty good one actually, but I'm sure half my class wouldn't even know him.
I'm sure he didn't create fractals, as I'm sure you know the golden ratio was discovered well before Mandelbrot's time. I'm also sure he didn't create chaos theory (but that doesn't mean he wasn't involved in its development).Ph0X wrote:
But yea, again, back to your thing strager, I'd argue that all these big thinkers won't become popular after their death either. Look at Mandelbrot who died a month ago. He created Fractals and Chaos theory, yet, not a single person in my class knew him.
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Also, like you said, the population is growing, but the % of actual educated people is decreasing.
Who?Jarby wrote:
Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard.
Now what?
Do explain.iMuffin wrote:
Isn't this question impossible to answer?
Yeah, even I don't know a single one of those.Jarby wrote:
Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard.
Now what?
because if a lot of people need to know said person then it is unreachable as not a lot of people know scientists and great thinkers. They just know who's "hot" and who's "not"strager wrote:
Do explain.iMuffin wrote:
Isn't this question impossible to answer?
Muffin.
What's that have to do with the original challenge?iMuffin wrote:
because if a lot of people need to know said person then it is unreachable as not a lot of people know scientists and great thinkers. They just know who's "hot" and who's "not"
OP wrote:
Name me 3 people who are still alive that are known for their thinking.
good pointstrager wrote:
What's that have to do with the original challenge?OP wrote:
Name me 3 people who are still alive that are known for their thinking.
People did bring up Bill Gates and Steve Jobs in class, and although it's a nice try, none of them is actually known for their thinking. Actually, we could even argue that Hawkins is known for being crippled and not for his science.Wojjan wrote:
The original challenge is incredibly vague though. People that are 'known' for their 'thinking' could mean bill gates because he though of running Microsoft, and could easily disqualify John Howard because he is not known in the slums of India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkerPokebis wrote:
How can you be known for thinking if nobody can read your thoughts? People can only interpret you based on actions rather than your thoughts. This is kind of silly and, frankly, it isn't something I'd be worried about because if somebody just thinks and doesn't do anything else what does it matter for me? If they write about their thoughts then they'd be known as a theorist, psychologist, or something of that affect. Point is for you to think for yourself, nothing else really matters. Also keep in mind others can't think for you.