Dzeko & Torres - 2015 in 10 Minutes · forum

meii18

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Joined October 2013

meii18 2016-04-11T19:33:56+00:00

Greetings WISPG_G and the collabers!

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'Marathon' looks useless being in tags since the difficulty name is Marathon
I don't think you need to have the epilepsy warning enabled since there are only movements of the collabers' names.You have to disable it because it looks kinda useless since it is just a SB name
The pictures with collabers' names have different size.Why don't you resize them at the same size?

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Marathon]

[WISPG_G]

00:14:740- Maybe add a note here? Feels weird to leave this noticeable beat unemphasized and also when the music is still going and also it gets intensified if you listen more carefully this beat and also the music.Same goes for:
00:18:490-
00:19:428-
00:21:771(6)- Feels weird to see it as a 1/1 slider (starting and ending on 1/2 ticks) because it ignores the stronger beat from 00:22:006- and also the slider snapped in that way seems that it does not follow the music really well as I can see.You can snap the slider by 1/2 slider (moving the tail backward to the 1/1 tick (white tick)) and then add a note on 00:22:240- so the beat from 00:22:006- will be emphasized plus the new rhythm will follow the music much better and more properly in my point of view
00:29:037(6,7)- I know that on (7)- the vocals are getting intensified but why did you make an big 1/2 jump? I think this jump is one random in my point of view so you have to lower the distance a bit but still to emphasize the intensified vocals
00:49:193(1)- You already have a NC on 00:48:725(1)- because for the reset of the instruments plus to make it readable since it is stacked under 00:48:256(5)-'s head but on this note, the NC is pretty useless so you have to remove it

Continue tomorrow...

WannaRock1

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Joined October 2015

WannaRock1 2016-04-12T10:15:07+00:00

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Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-04-13T00:49:54+00:00

Ahoi~ o/

Wisp

00:03:725 (1) - I don't think many people enjoy spinning for 6 seconds, how about splitting this up? You could use simplified versions of the following rhythm for this
00:11:225 (1,2) - hmmh, (2) starts on a rather weak beat, whereas all the strong ones before have less impact, because none are clickable. My suggestion is to split (1) up and move (2) on the last strong beat like this: http://puu.sh/og2ye.jpg ; same goes for 00:14:975 (1,2,3) -
And it's similar here: 00:12:865 (1,2) - , this would work better like this, I think: http://puu.sh/og7id.jpg ; same for 00:16:615 (1,2,3,4) -
00:14:740 - and 00:18:490 - I agree with Byby, there should be an object here. You can just add a circle
00:19:193 (5) - consider replacing this with a 1/2 slider to emphasize the on-going sound
00:22:943 (3,4) - feels a little weird that you skip the beat on the red tick, how about snapping the slider to 1/2 and adding another circle on the blue tick?
00:24:115 (1,2) - stack seems rather random, the sound on (2) is stronger than the one on (1), so spacing them would work better, I think
00:25:756 (5,6) - ctrl+g this rhythm to have the start of the stream clickable. It's the same as 00:18:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - so should be clickable
00:28:568 (5,6,7) - the flow is a little awkward, I didn't expect this kind of movement (might be just me, tho, I'm not sure). I'd prefer a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/og9bd.jpg
00:35:365 (1) - should be snapped to 1/2, because there's a sound there that shouldn't be skipped, while the 1/4 is silent; same for 00:39:115 (1) - and 00:41:225 (1) - and 00:42:865 (1) - and 00:46:615 (1) -
00:37:475 (1) - similar to ^, should be 1/1 slider instead of 5/4; same here 00:44:975 (1) -
00:38:412 (3) - weird that you ignore the sound on the red tick here, how about replacing this with three circles? Same for 00:45:912 (3) -
00:48:256 (5,1) - stack on sliderhead looks pretty random, why don't you just stack it below the slidertail instead? Players don't have to move either way, but if stacked below the tail it's less confusing
00:49:193 (1) - NC is unnecessary
00:49:662 (3,4) - can you move them a little closer? Jump feels a little exaggerated to me
00:51:068 (1,2,3,4,5) - strong beats are on (1,3,5) so it doesn't make sense to put the jumps on (2) and (4), imo. Consider re-arranging this to emphasize the strtonger beats more.
Also, why a repeat slider suddenly? The rhythm repeats, so there should be another four circles on head/reverse/tail and 00:52:709 -, imo.
01:01:850 (1,2,3) - kinda high spacing, imo. I'm not sure if it's clear to players that this is 1/4.. maybe just move them closer so the jump is not that extreme?
Also, 01:03:725 (1,2,3) - / 01:11:576 (2,3) - and several other should be spaced similar to ^ (or vice-versa), for consistency between patterns
01:07:826 (2,3) - sounds more like http://puu.sh/ogb2A.jpg to me, the 1/8 is too strong to completely ignore it
01:22:475 - starting here this section could use a silent sliderslide for 01:22:943 (3,4) - , I think, it's pretty quiet but dimnishes focus from the strong beats
01:24:818 (7,8,1) - (7,8) are stronger than (1), but they're stacked while (1) is spaced.. doesn't work that well, imo. Consider stacking (8) above (1) instead, or spacing all of them just like 01:28:568 (5,6,1) -
01:26:225 (3,1) - why change DS here?
01:28:100 (4,5) - mentioned this already, if you want to stack them, stack below the slidertail, but in this case I advice against that, the circle should be spaced regularly at a better visible place, imo.
01:30:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 01:32:318 (1,2,3,4) - spacing between these patterns for 1/4 is inconsistent, you should keep all of them spaced similar, imo, so better re-arrange the first pattern (the others match already)

freebird

02:16:381 (1) - imo this would work better as two circles or two 1/4 sliders to emphasize both on-going sounds that you emphasized similarly here 02:17:787 (5) -
02:35:600 (5) - missing NC? (should be on each downbeat, or am I wrong? Following pattern has NC on each, so I'm not sure. but you should make them consistent)
02:40:521 (4,1) - feels a little empty because vocals go on and there's another sound on the red tick, maybe move (4) to 02:40:756 - and add a circle at 02:40:521 - ?
02:41:459 (2,3,4) - what happened to the stack? xD
02:43:100 (7) - missing NC?
02:45:912 (1,2,3,4,1) - not sure aboout NCs here either; (1) doesn't need an NC even if there's different spacing, it's pretty obvious, but (2) is beginning of the next line, so should have NC.
02:48:725 (1,2) - copypasting one slider looks a little off, considering you've been using many creative sliders together previously, how about a different shape for the second slider? (maybe some kind of blanket for (1) or next object?)
02:58:100 (6) - reverse doesn't work well here because of the beat at 02:58:451 - ; consider removing the reverse and adding circles instead
03:08:412 (4) - and 03:10:287 (3,4) - same rhythm and simialr vocals, shouldn't they be consistent? I'd prefer if (3,4) were just one slider~~
03:45:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a litte confusing that this isn't like 03:37:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , cause it's the exact same rhythm
04:24:350 (1) - you've been sticking to vocals with NCs for this song, so better to remove it here, imo. (the jump is obvious)

CircleChu

05:10:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - most important sounds are on (1,3,4,5) and it would be nice if they had more impact than (2), so I'd suggest to turn (1) into a 1/2 slider, you'll have (1) still clickable, but (2) moves more into the background which puts a lot more emphasis on (3,4)
05:25:639 - pretty strong sound that shouldn't be ignored, imo. Add a circle?
05:37:006 (4,5,6) - there's no sound on (5), but there's one at 05:37:357 - so this feels a little off. Might be better to move it there?
05:50:365 (1) - pretty strong sound on the blue tick, why did you ignore it here? Might work better if you replace the slider with circles
05:54:115 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - I expected something similar to 05:46:615 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - because it's the same rhythm, but some variety might not be bad~~ however, these circles 05:47:787 (1,2,3,4) - are a one-time-only-accurance and it feels a little weird to only play it once, I suggest you match this with all the other similar ryhthms or use it more often instead (I'd like to have them more often, they're fun >w<)

Dailycare

07:57:631 (6) - and 07:59:506 (6) - why do you switch to so many reverses here? The beat on the red tick is so strong, it feels a little weird to not click it, imo.. especially becauss the ones before were all clickable. Might be more interesting to make the pattern a little harder again and use four circles instead? Like you did in the beginning with 07:48:256 (5,6,7,8) -

Avishay

08:29:740 (3) - poor strong downbeat. :c Maybe this would work better if you use a 1/2 + reverse instead of (3,4)? You'd have at least some emphasis on the downbeat and still cover the vocals. Or you could make 08:30:092 - clickable, because that's were the vocals start, (4) is compared to that extremely weak.. > shorten slider to 1/2, remove (4) and add a 1/4 slider at 08:30:092 -
08:48:256 (7,8,9) - hmh. Rhythm doesn't change so why do you add (8)? :/
08:49:662 (8) - consider adding NC here, combo's getting pretty pretty long and looks random compared to the other short combos
Also is 08:49:428 (7) - inteded as it is? If you want to split this equally into 2/1 mapped with circles and 2/1 with sliders it should be two more circles(?)
09:25:287 (2,3) - I still don't know why.. :'C you could create a blanket with (2) sooo nicely..

That's all for now. öö

Ambu5h

153 posts

Joined February 2015

Ambu5h 2016-04-13T19:20:52+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
freebird
02:16:381 (1) - imo this would work better as two circles or two 1/4 sliders to emphasize both on-going sounds that you emphasized similarly here 02:17:787 (5) - ok
02:35:600 (5) - missing NC? (should be on each downbeat, or am I wrong? Following pattern has NC on each, so I'm not sure. but you should make them consistent) big fail by me, thanks
02:40:521 (4,1) - feels a little empty because vocals go on and there's another sound on the red tick, maybe move (4) to 02:40:756 - and add a circle at 02:40:521 - ? why not
02:41:459 (2,3,4) - what happened to the stack? xD i honestly didnt see issues here, but well, made here stack another one time, hope now everything's clear
02:43:100 (7) - missing NC? yes
02:45:912 (1,2,3,4,1) - not sure aboout NCs here either; (1) doesn't need an NC even if there's different spacing, it's pretty obvious, but (2) is beginning of the next line, so should have NC. im so bad with nc's
02:48:725 (1,2) - copypasting one slider looks a little off, considering you've been using many creative sliders together previously, how about a different shape for the second slider? (maybe some kind of blanket for (1) or next object?) i dunno really, as long as both of them emphasize the same sound i used copypaste here, but maybe i'll change the second one, i'm not sure
02:58:100 (6) - reverse doesn't work well here because of the beat at 02:58:451 - ; consider removing the reverse and adding circles instead why am i so deaf
03:08:412 (4) - and 03:10:287 (3,4) - same rhythm and simialr vocals, shouldn't they be consistent? I'd prefer if (3,4) were just one slider~~ as you say
03:45:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a litte confusing that this isn't like 03:37:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , cause it's the exact same rhythm actually yes, made them the same
04:24:350 (1) - you've been sticking to vocals with NCs for this song, so better to remove it here, imo. (the jump is obvious) but it has special finish hitsound and thats like the epic final for my part (LOL) so thats why nc

Big thanks again for mod, Squirrel! You can see things i just never thought about!

code: http://puu.sh/oh1iV/111105a5aa.osu

Cellina

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Joined March 2013

Cellina 2016-04-14T12:16:47+00:00

ar is too fast ;w; consider to reduce it (maybe 8.7?)

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

1,071 posts

Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2016-04-14T12:35:27+00:00

@squirrel
fixed :3

@the ash raichu
Uhh, I can understand somewhat, but I wonder why you thought these rhythms are unintuitive.. Whole rhythms are fine for me.. Anyway thanks for your opinion

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Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2016-04-14T16:51:45+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
Ahoi~ o/

Avishay
08:29:740 (3) - poor strong downbeat. :c Maybe this would work better if you use a 1/2 + reverse instead of (3,4)? You'd have at least some emphasis on the downbeat and still cover the vocals. Or you could make 08:30:092 - clickable, because that's were the vocals start, (4) is compared to that extremely weak.. > shorten slider to 1/2, remove (4) and add a 1/4 slider at 08:30:092 - I like that suggestion a lot, changed.
08:48:256 (7,8,9) - hmh. Rhythm doesn't change so why do you add (8)? :/ Because there is a 1/4 note? Listen closely.
08:49:662 (8) - consider adding NC here, combo's getting pretty pretty long and looks random compared to the other short combos Uhm sure.
Also is 08:49:428 (7) - inteded as it is? If you want to split this equally into 2/1 mapped with circles and 2/1 with sliders it should be two more circles(?) Oops fixed and redesigned.
09:25:287 (2,3) - I still don't know why.. :'C you could create a blanket with (2) sooo nicely.. I tried, I like nothing :<
That's all for now. öö

@Ash, it's a vocal play, it is stuttered to symbolize the vocals, as for the NCs, they are finee imo

Thanks both!

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KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-04-14T19:28:55+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
Ahoi~ o/

Wisp
00:03:725 (1) - I don't think many people enjoy spinning for 6 seconds, how about splitting this up? You could use simplified versions of the following rhythm for this Mapped something else
00:11:225 (1,2) - hmmh, (2) starts on a rather weak beat, whereas all the strong ones before have less impact, because none are clickable. My suggestion is to split (1) up and move (2) on the last strong beat like this: http://puu.sh/og2ye.jpg ; same goes for 00:14:975 (1,2,3) - Ok
And it's similar here: 00:12:865 (1,2) - , this would work better like this, I think: http://puu.sh/og7id.jpg ; same for 00:16:615 (1,2,3,4) - Ok [2]
00:14:740 - and 00:18:490 - I agree with Byby, there should be an object here. You can just add a circle Ok [3]
00:19:193 (5) - consider replacing this with a 1/2 slider to emphasize the on-going sound Ok [...]
00:22:943 (3,4) - feels a little weird that you skip the beat on the red tick, how about snapping the slider to 1/2 and adding another circle on the blue tick? Yes
00:24:115 (1,2) - stack seems rather random, the sound on (2) is stronger than the one on (1), so spacing them would work better, I think Changed
00:25:756 (5,6) - ctrl+g this rhythm to have the start of the stream clickable. It's the same as 00:18:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - so should be clickable To-to-to-to-to
00:28:568 (5,6,7) - the flow is a little awkward, I didn't expect this kind of movement (might be just me, tho, I'm not sure). I'd prefer a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/og9bd.jpg Nice flow
00:35:365 (1) - should be snapped to 1/2, because there's a sound there that shouldn't be skipped, while the 1/4 is silent; same for 00:39:115 (1) - and 00:41:225 (1) - and 00:42:865 (1) - and 00:46:615 (1) - Fine
00:37:475 (1) - similar to ^, should be 1/1 slider instead of 5/4; same here 00:44:975 (1) - ^
00:38:412 (3) - weird that you ignore the sound on the red tick here, how about replacing this with three circles? Same for 00:45:912 (3) - Um, ok
00:48:256 (5,1) - stack on sliderhead looks pretty random, why don't you just stack it below the slidertail instead? Players don't have to move either way, but if stacked below the tail it's less confusing Ok, i guess
00:49:193 (1) - NC is unnecessary Um, ok
00:49:662 (3,4) - can you move them a little closer? Jump feels a little exaggerated to me Changed
00:51:068 (1,2,3,4,5) - strong beats are on (1,3,5) so it doesn't make sense to put the jumps on (2) and (4), imo. Consider re-arranging this to emphasize the strtonger beats more. Changed
Also, why a repeat slider suddenly? The rhythm repeats, so there should be another four circles on head/reverse/tail and 00:52:709 -, imo. Idk
01:01:850 (1,2,3) - kinda high spacing, imo. I'm not sure if it's clear to players that this is 1/4.. maybe just move them closer so the jump is not that extreme? Fixed
Also, 01:03:725 (1,2,3) - / 01:11:576 (2,3) - and several other should be spaced similar to ^ (or vice-versa), for consistency between patterns Fixed i guess
01:07:826 (2,3) - sounds more like http://puu.sh/ogb2A.jpg to me, the 1/8 is too strong to completely ignore it Fine
01:22:475 - starting here this section could use a silent sliderslide for 01:22:943 (3,4) - , I think, it's pretty quiet but dimnishes focus from the strong beats Well
01:24:818 (7,8,1) - (7,8) are stronger than (1), but they're stacked while (1) is spaced.. doesn't work that well, imo. Consider stacking (8) above (1) instead, or spacing all of them just like 01:28:568 (5,6,1) - Fixed
01:26:225 (3,1) - why change DS here? Ops missed
01:28:100 (4,5) - mentioned this already, if you want to stack them, stack below the slidertail, but in this case I advice against that, the circle should be spaced regularly at a better visible place, imo. Yep
01:30:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 01:32:318 (1,2,3,4) - spacing between these patterns for 1/4 is inconsistent, you should keep all of them spaced similar, imo, so better re-arrange the first pattern (the others match already) I am not sure looks fine for me.
That's all for now. öö

Thx again

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2016-04-22T05:29:35+00:00

I was asked to have a look at FCL's parts.

[Collab]

04:28:920 (4) - тут лучше на основной бас смотреть и его мапать, давай уберем (4), т.к. триплет там играется слабовато.
04:44:037 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - не сказал бы, что выглядит аккуратно. Может что-то попроще в визуальном плане попробуешь? Это закруглдение в конце грустно смотрится, выпрямим его?
04:46:264 (4,5,6) - а давай раздвинем серклы, для большей читабельности? не критично, но визуально приятнее будет.
04:48:725 (1,2) - такой стак сложно будет сходу прочитать, анстакни, пожалуйста. 05:06:068 (2,1) - аналогично
04:57:279 - бит куда-то выпал. Может хотя бы реверсом слайдеора выделить? +05:01:029 - аналогично
05:31:850 (1) - из-за вокалов на красном тике слайдер звучит неприятно. Давай укоротим его? 05:33:725 (1) - аналогично
05:48:725 (1,2,3,4) - ♥
05:59:037 (6,7) - уменьши или увеличь спейсинг, можно прочитать как 1/4.
06:18:725 (1,2,3) - не знаю, мне такой джамп не нравится. Вроде как он работает и играется, но визуально выглядит слабо. Да и раньше подобного не было. 06:22:475 (1,2) - аналогично

Shoga

232 posts

Joined January 2015

Shoga 2016-04-22T06:04:45+00:00

Mod

00:03:021 - add a spinner there
00:09:115 (3,1) - U miss the sound here that some thing like these 00:11:225 (1,2) -
00:26:225 (6) - NC here?
00:48:256 (5) - Increase SV by a bit here to emphasize the beat there since it is louder
04:25:756 (1,2,3) - U might wanna put this in the middle of the screen or some where futher to 04:26:225 (1) for better visual feel and for the better transition to FCL part?
04:40:756 (5) - feel like u should space that slider abit futher out to fit with the follow sliders
04:54:350 (1,2,3,4,5) - Space these out a bit so the it is ezier to read?
Stupid suggestion: U Might wanna to add the song track in the sb.

queue if u want some mods

Ayy gl all~

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2016-04-22T09:51:10+00:00

Bakari wrote:
I was asked to have a look at FCL's parts.

[Collab]
04:28:920 (4) - тут лучше на основной бас смотреть и его мапать, давай уберем (4), т.к. триплет там играется слабовато. а я отчетливый бас там слышу, почему бы и не замапать. Посмотрю что другие скажут
04:44:037 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - не сказал бы, что выглядит аккуратно. Может что-то попроще в визуальном плане попробуешь? Это закруглдение в конце грустно смотрится, выпрямим его? неправда, но я выпрямил
04:46:264 (4,5,6) - а давай раздвинем серклы, для большей читабельности? не критично, но визуально приятнее будет. ну давай
04:48:725 (1,2) - такой стак сложно будет сходу прочитать, анстакни, пожалуйста. 05:06:068 (2,1) - аналогично там похожие звуки стаки были бы ок. Тем не менее я анстакнул но с меньшим спейсингом
04:57:279 - бит куда-то выпал. Может хотя бы реверсом слайдеора выделить? +05:01:029 - аналогично а я то думал, что тут не так
05:31:850 (1) - из-за вокалов на красном тике слайдер звучит неприятно. Давай укоротим его? 05:33:725 (1) - аналогично все верно, укоротил до 1/2, но при этом добавил ноту на синий тик, т.к. там есть сильный звук
05:48:725 (1,2,3,4) - ♥ thanks mr. monstrata for giving me that idea
05:59:037 (6,7) - уменьши или увеличь спейсинг, можно прочитать как 1/4. уменьшил
06:18:725 (1,2,3) - не знаю, мне такой джамп не нравится. Вроде как он работает и играется, но визуально выглядит слабо. Да и раньше подобного не было. 06:22:475 (1,2) - аналогично на самом деле я их использую на протяжении всего этого киая, так что все вполне последовательно

Спасибо!
@Shoga applied your second suggestion, ty
http://puu.sh/orwji/318804e1e6.osu

Ambu5h

153 posts

Joined February 2015

Ambu5h 2016-04-22T12:13:11+00:00

Shoga wrote:
[*]04:25:756 (1,2,3) - U might wanna put this in the middle of the screen or some where futher to 04:26:225 (1) for better visual feel and for the better transition to FCL part? dont wanna move that triple, but removed nc from 04:25:756 (1) - so i hope noone will fail this moment

Thanks, Shoga

Deadmadeon

148 posts

Joined October 2014

Deadmadeon 2016-04-23T02:42:07+00:00

Hi, here is my mod wich is only composed by a suggestion to make more constant with difficulty

Suggestion

02:17:553 (4) - Ctrl + g

LoL It's the only

KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-04-23T03:58:30+00:00

Deadmadeon wrote:
Hi, here is my mod wich is only composed by a suggestion to make more constant with difficulty

Suggestion
02:17:553 (4) - Ctrl + g

LoL It's the only

LOL, best mod ever
P.S. Thx for Star =)

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-04-23T11:39:36+00:00

So.. we deleted a useless green line and everything else looks good to me. Here's bubble #1! (\^w^/)

BoatKrab

740 posts

Joined September 2012

BoatKrab 2016-04-23T16:02:25+00:00

Wooo ~ Great one!
GL with it! xD

KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-04-23T16:27:50+00:00

BoatKrab wrote:
Wooo ~ Great one!
GL with it! xD

Thx xD

Shoga

232 posts

Joined January 2015

Shoga 2016-04-24T06:19:48+00:00

ayyy, nice nice m8~
gg wp

BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2016-04-30T02:55:00+00:00

Pretty good. Bubble #2~

KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-04-30T05:27:49+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
Pretty good. Bubble #2~

Wow! That was unexpected xD
Thx! \:D/

CircleChu

190 posts

Joined May 2012

CircleChu 2016-04-30T09:41:42+00:00

BeatofIke, thanks xD

Tony

1,510 posts

Joined July 2010

Tony 2016-04-30T10:08:05+00:00

(ノ･ω･)ノ

too bad I can't

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2016-04-30T15:54:30+00:00

As requested.

I'll be modding in English, so everyone is free to discuss and read the chhanges, which is the best way to handle things at pre-qualification stage.

[General]

If only you could actually update the tags with the names and titles of works which were mixed in within the compilation.

[Marathon]

WISPG_G

00:36:303 (3,5) - minor - tiny overlap here won't spoil the overall impression, but it won't hurt to have it fixed.
01:03:256 (1,1,2,3) - the uneven spacing usage looks rather untidy and makes the reading of the rhythm here rather difficult.
01:25:990 (2) - overmapping. Would recommend remove it as it feels overdone and doesn't go too well.
01:29:037 (1) - similar with the suggestion above, there is nothing on the beat where the slider starts. I'd prefer having the slider started 1/2 later.

freebird42

02:38:412 - with the vocals popping up here, the slider you have started at 02:38:178 (3) - feels quite off the track.
02:39:701 (2,3,4,5) - do not use the same spacing for 1/2 and 1/4 patterns. This is extremely confusing and does not make much sense with the song.
03:18:959 (1,2,3) - 03:20:834 (2) - not exactly happy with these sliders finishing on stronger beats. Taking into consideration the fact that they feel relatively off the bass I would offer this
03:29:975 (1) - this is definitely 1/4 and not 1/6. Assuming that you were trying to emphasise the pitch I would advise doing that via hiitsounding.
03:53:412 - 03:53:881 - the previous notechains like 03:52:475 (1,2) - were mapped, but the two at 03:53:412 - 03:53:881 -are left out. May I ask you why?
03:58:920 (4) - feels really weak with the vocals, I would prefer to have it removed, to be honest.
Note: 04:12:982 (6) - same.

FCL

04:48:607 (8,1,2) - the uneven spacing here suggests weird snapping, that would confuse players and make gameplay unpleasant. Please, use even spacing values.
Note: 05:06:068 (2,1) - same.

Dailycare

06:43:543 - 06:51:825 - this could use a break. Insert it here for the sake of not breaking HP Drain.
06:50:483 (1) - if you want to follow vocals, snap it 1/4 earlier. If you want to follow vocals and drums snap it 1/4 later. Having it as it is does not make much sense with the song, though.
07:06:068 (2,3) - try to ctrl+G those and tell me if you like the outcome in terms of rhythm. Should go better with the vocals. If you do - fdon't forget to fix the spacing!
07:14:506 (5) - sounds a lot more like 1/8 or 1/4 to me. Give it a run in slower playback, it diesn't feel like 1/6.
07:43:100 (1,2,3,4) - readability here should be improved. This pattern can be misread as 1/4 one.
08:03:725 (1,2,3) - and 08:05:600 (1,2,3,4) - do not go well with the actual beat. Try to stress the music the way it goes, by either using kick sliders or doubles. example
Note: same issue haunts similar patterns, be sure to look into it! For example, 08:09:350 (1,2,3,4).

Avishay

08:29:740 (3) - minor - the shape of the slider does not seem to be having any comnnection with the music. I would suggest a simple slider, though it might be just a personal preference.
08:36:537 (1,2,3) - either place an NC to highlight a spacing change or put them all with the same spacing, this should fix the readability of the pattern slightly.

I won't run around pointing fingers and blaming anybody specifically, but I believe that this set could use more work before going into the Qualified section. Both rhythmically and in terms of appearance the map appears to be somewhat raw in my eyes. With this being said, I neither pop the bubble nor pushing the map forward.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

1,071 posts

Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2016-05-01T09:29:33+00:00

Bakari wrote:
[Marathon]
Dailycare
06:43:543 - 06:51:825 - this could use a break. Insert it here for the sake of not breaking HP Drain.
06:50:483 (1) - if you want to follow vocals, snap it 1/4 earlier. If you want to follow vocals and drums snap it 1/4 later. Having it as it is does not make much sense with the song, though. // uh, didn't fix it. current rhythm is better for me xd
07:06:068 (2,3) - try to ctrl+G those and tell me if you like the outcome in terms of rhythm. Should go better with the vocals. If you do - fdon't forget to fix the spacing! // ctrl+g'ed rhythm is better than current one yea.. but i think changing slider to circles would be better than either tbh xd
07:14:506 (5) - sounds a lot more like 1/8 or 1/4 to me. Give it a run in slower playback, it diesn't feel like 1/6.
07:43:100 (1,2,3,4) - readability here should be improved. This pattern can be misread as 1/4 one.
08:03:725 (1,2,3) - and 08:05:600 (1,2,3,4) - do not go well with the actual beat. Try to stress the music the way it goes, by either using kick sliders or doubles. example
Note: same issue haunts similar patterns, be sure to look into it! For example, 08:09:350 (1,2,3,4).

Thanks for mod >w</

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Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2016-05-01T10:24:53+00:00

Bakari wrote:
As requested.

Avishay
08:29:740 (3) - minor - the shape of the slider does not seem to be having any comnnection with the music. I would suggest a simple slider, though it might be just a personal preference. At first, it was identical to 08:30:443 (5) -, but the rhythm was changed, so I tried to keep the overall shape of the slider with 08:29:740 (3,4) -. Hopefully it makes the slightly weird shape more reasonable.
08:36:537 (1,2,3) - either place an NC to highlight a spacing change or put them all with the same spacing, this should fix the readability of the pattern slightly. Doesn't really seem like a huge problem, but sure, I don't mind.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!

Thanks.

@wisp - 08:37:475 (3) - NC on here AND 08:33:959 (6) - move this to x248 y312, I want to increase the spacing a bit here.

Ambu5h

153 posts

Joined February 2015

Ambu5h 2016-05-03T22:24:32+00:00

Bakari wrote:
freebird42
02:38:412 - with the vocals popping up here, the slider you have started at 02:38:178 (3) - feels quite off the track. its fine
02:39:701 (2,3,4,5) - do not use the same spacing for 1/2 and 1/4 patterns. This is extremely confusing and does not make much sense with the song. fixed
03:18:959 (1,2,3) - 03:20:834 (2) - not exactly happy with these sliders finishing on stronger beats. Taking into consideration the fact that they feel relatively off the bass I would offer this yes
03:29:975 (1) - this is definitely 1/4 and not 1/6. Assuming that you were trying to emphasise the pitch I would advise doing that via hiitsounding. as you say
03:53:412 - 03:53:881 - the previous notechains like 03:52:475 (1,2) - were mapped, but the two at 03:53:412 - 03:53:881 -are left out. May I ask you why? fixed
03:58:920 (4) - feels really weak with the vocals, I would prefer to have it removed, to be honest. yes
Note: 04:12:982 (6) - same. no

Thank you, Bakari

С тайминг секциями http://puu.sh/oFhUF/14a52097db.osu

Nyukai

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Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2016-05-04T17:21:49+00:00

Oh, I just noticed someone mapped this! Nice :3

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-05-05T23:52:45+00:00

Yup, rechecking again as a lot of parts were changed.
Probably nitpicking a bit more in first two parts because they were changed the most. ><

Wisp

00:07:240 (3,1) - compared to previous patterns flow here is a little weird. Would be better if you move (1) further up, like 348|2 (yay square pattern)
00:10:990 - yes, this again. xD I still believe this should be mapped for a better transition, because the rhythm of all the previous patterns before repeats at 00:10:287 (4) - so this should look like http://puu.sh/oHE2q.jpg
If you change the rhythm or not, 00:10:287 (4) - should have NC anyway, because all other patterns have NC there
00:40:990 (6,1) - compared to similar parts this jump seems exaggerated, maybe you can re-arrange this so they're a little closer? example: http://puu.sh/oHEm0.jpg (triangle pattern for (4,5,6) and (6) stacked below (3)'s tail
00:50:600 (1,2,3,4) - the song intensifies, would be nice if players had to move a little more here. example: http://puu.sh/oHFur.jpg (You wouldn't even have to adjust following pattern)
00:54:350 (1,2,3,4) - similar to ^. Since this is placed differently it's a little harder to change, but you could create a really nice pattern with prev objects, screens: http://puu.sh/oHFLv.jpg | http://puu.sh/oHFMz.jpg | http://puu.sh/oHFNL.jpg ; you'd have to place 00:56:225 (1,2) - differently if you change this, tho
01:22:475 (1,2) - after some more testplays I think this would work better as a slider. It's just easier after the spinner to adjust to the speed if you click a slider
01:28:100 (4) - use copypaste/rotated version of 01:27:397 (2) - ? Looks better, imo
01:29:975 (3,1,2) - eh, were they moved closer? Looks pretty cluttered now. s: Also overlap with 01:31:264 (4,5) - looks weird. I think the whole pattern would become better readable if you avoid the random overlaps.
02:08:412 (3,4,1) - overlap of (3,1) is visible while playing, maybe you can just switch the sliders around so (3) is somewhere different. example: http://puu.sh/oHGka.jpg

freebird

02:20:600 (1) - imo the shape doesn't really match with the other ones.. they're so nicely curved and then you have this angular here in the middle. Consider changing it up? example: http://puu.sh/oHGz3.jpg
02:53:412 (3,4,1) - are they missing hitsounds?
03:03:490 (9,1) - I think NC should be on (9) instead, because you have the other "oh" NC'ed here 03:05:600 (1) -
03:41:693 (4,5) - should be spaced like 03:41:225 (1,2,3) - , no?
03:47:318 (2,3,4) - smimilar here, spacing should be balanced :b
04:01:615 (6,1,2) - try to avoid the overlap of (6,2), please, you can just rotate the slider a bit
--- that's all the minor issues, there's just one more problematic thing (imo) and that's the very inconsistent spacing of some 1/2s and some 1/4s.
It's not always clear when something's snapped to 1/2 and when to 1/4. In the beginning of your part you introduce the 1/4s between sliders stacked above the second sliderhead (02:19:076 (2,3,4,5) - etc) and that plays perfectly fine, but then you decide to place 1/2s at a very similar distance.
The first one is here 03:07:240 (4,1) - (actually not THAT much of a problem, because of the NC) but , you also have patterns like 03:33:725 (1,2) - 03:34:428 (3,4) - and then 03:55:990 (6,1) - 03:56:928 (2,3) - etc that aren't differentiable from 04:02:670 (3,4) - 04:04:428 (2,3) - and 04:07:240 (4,5,1) -
I think you should pay some more attention to make 1/2s and 1/4s differentiable from each other. Especially the last pattern mentioned (04:06:303 (2,3,4,5,1) - ) and 04:19:428 (2,3,4,5,1) - are really confusing

FCL

05:55:287 (5,6) - and 05:59:037 (6,7) - not really a problem, cause it's read- and playable, but why? o.o A bit surprising, since you didn't use a similar stack anywhere else except these two..
Ye, otherwise perfectly fine for me. ovob

Dailycare - still perfectly fine!

Avishay

09:18:725 (3,4,5) - You might want to clean this > http://puu.sh/oHHXV.jpg < up a little, just manually stack them? c:
> (4) to 173|186 and (5) to 179| 192 (Idk why I didn't mention this sooner orz)

Ambu5h

153 posts

Joined February 2015

Ambu5h 2016-05-06T19:58:28+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
freebird
02:20:600 (1) - imo the shape doesn't really match with the other ones.. they're so nicely curved and then you have this angular here in the middle. Consider changing it up? example: http://puu.sh/oHGz3.jpg ok, changed curve but didnt move this slider, because i want to keep the spacing that i have
02:53:412 (3,4,1) - are they missing hitsounds? yes
03:03:490 (9,1) - I think NC should be on (9) instead, because you have the other "oh" NC'ed here 03:05:600 (1) - fair enough
03:41:693 (4,5) - should be spaced like 03:41:225 (1,2,3) - , no? well, the sounds are a bit different, so thats why i changed spacing and hitsounds
03:47:318 (2,3,4) - smimilar here, spacing should be balanced :b yes, good catch
04:01:615 (6,1,2) - try to avoid the overlap of (6,2), please, you can just rotate the slider a bit ok
--- that's all the minor issues, there's just one more problematic thing (imo) and that's the very inconsistent spacing of some 1/2s and some 1/4s.
It's not always clear when something's snapped to 1/2 and when to 1/4. In the beginning of your part you introduce the 1/4s between sliders stacked above the second sliderhead (02:19:076 (2,3,4,5) - etc) and that plays perfectly fine, but then you decide to place 1/2s at a very similar distance.
The first one is here 03:07:240 (4,1) - (actually not THAT much of a problem, because of the NC) but , you also have patterns like 03:33:725 (1,2) - 03:34:428 (3,4) - and then 03:55:990 (6,1) - 03:56:928 (2,3) - etc that aren't differentiable from 04:02:670 (3,4) - 04:04:428 (2,3) - and 04:07:240 (4,5,1) -
I think you should pay some more attention to make 1/2s and 1/4s differentiable from each other. Especially the last pattern mentioned (04:06:303 (2,3,4,5,1) - ) and 04:19:428 (2,3,4,5,1) - are really confusing all fixed

Thank you very much for third mod!

http://puu.sh/oIF5W/49b3753c05.osu

KappaPraise

316 posts

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Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-05-07T05:19:15+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
Yup, rechecking again as a lot of parts were changed.
Probably nitpicking a bit more in first two parts because they were changed the most. >< >_<

Wisp
00:07:240 (3,1) - compared to previous patterns flow here is a little weird. Would be better if you move (1) further up, like 348|2 (yay square pattern)
00:10:990 - yes, this again. xD I still believe this should be mapped for a better transition, because the rhythm of all the previous patterns before repeats at 00:10:287 (4) - so this should look like http://puu.sh/oHE2q.jpg Yay I hate squares \:D/ anyway fixed patterns and added there another circle
If you change the rhythm or not, 00:10:287 (4) - should have NC anyway, because all other patterns have NC there Yep
00:40:990 (6,1) - compared to similar parts this jump seems exaggerated, maybe you can re-arrange this so they're a little closer? example: http://puu.sh/oHEm0.jpg (triangle pattern for (4,5,6) and (6) stacked below (3)'s tail Fixed, but in another way to avoid overlap here 00:39:584 (2,5) - also ctrl+g this one 00:41:225 (1) -
00:50:600 (1,2,3,4) - the song intensifies, would be nice if players had to move a little more here. example: http://puu.sh/oHFur.jpg (You wouldn't even have to adjust following pattern) + thx for pattern
00:54:350 (1,2,3,4) - similar to ^. Since this is placed differently it's a little harder to change, but you could create a really nice pattern with prev objects, screens: http://puu.sh/oHFLv.jpg | http://puu.sh/oHFMz.jpg | http://puu.sh/oHFNL.jpg ; you'd have to place 00:56:225 (1,2) - differently if you change this, tho ^
01:22:475 (1,2) - after some more testplays I think this would work better as a slider. It's just easier after the spinner to adjust to the speed if you click a slider I knew it))
01:28:100 (4) - use copypaste/rotated version of 01:27:397 (2) - ? Looks better, imo Yep
01:29:975 (3,1,2) - eh, were they moved closer? Looks pretty cluttered now. s: Also overlap with 01:31:264 (4,5) - looks weird. I think the whole pattern would become better readable if you avoid the random overlaps. Oh, well tried move a bit ferther and added NC here 01:31:264 (1) -
02:08:412 (3,4,1) - overlap of (3,1) is visible while playing, maybe you can just switch the sliders around so (3) is somewhere different. example: http://puu.sh/oHGka.jpg fixed

Thx again \o

KappaPraise

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Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-05-07T05:21:41+00:00

The 100 post YAY! \:D/

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

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Shmiklak 2016-05-07T16:38:01+00:00

лол

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-05-08T15:42:43+00:00

Alright, set looks totally fine to me. Take your bubble back! :3

BeatofIke

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Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2016-05-13T06:10:13+00:00

Re-bubble #2~

KappaPraise

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KappaPraise 2016-05-13T06:14:43+00:00

Re-hype >w</

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-05-15T04:13:47+00:00

Hellow! Modding upon your request.

Wisp

00:14:740 (7,1) - Distance between these should be higher as well as you did here 00:10:990 (3,1) - . As it is now the emphasis goes on (7) will mislead the current motion that was supposed to be emphasized here. Hence, it would flow good if you short the distance between these 00:14:506 (6,7) - to fix this.
00:21:772 (6) - I really liked how this slider floes but the rhythm feels like it was stopped because the main beat was hold as a slider-tick presented with this slider. Moreover, ending the slider on the red tick would make much sense because neither vocals nor instruments have a sound there. It would be way better if you used 2 circles on 1/2 to fill out the rhythm on this part.
00:23:295 (4) - Overmapped. There's no slight sound here at the blue tick to place a circle because it doesn't match the song well. Consider to remove it to simply the rhythm and follow the current structures mapped over this segment. What about using a 1/1 slider here to hold nicely the wave sound of the instruments here? Please, try it.
00:26:225 (1,2,3,4,5) - I was just curious why the DS used here is higher when the stream of the beginning used a sensible DS for the patterning. I do believe lowering the DS over that pattern as it was done here 00:18:725 (1,2,3,4) - would fit awesomely the mapset.
00:26:928 (6,7,8) - This section feels somehow odd to the gameplay because the motion is simplified into sliders and one circle which this clearly claims for more emphasis. I suggest you to try remaking the whole section with circles as a star pattern to give players the idea the strong beats resides here 00:27:865 (4) - as you were following vocals at that spot. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try! ; )
00:37:240 (5,1) - The blanket looks good but it doesn't help at all to have a short DS when the downbeats supports rather higher spacing as you were mapping just before. I do believe placing (5) here 311|189 would improve significantly the transition of these objects here.
00:44:740 (6,1) - While the timeline says the slider is the strong beat, in rhythmical therms, they don't flow good. It would be way better if you did ctrl + G here to improve nicely the rhythm of this section.
00:48:725 (6) - If this beat is as strong as to be emphasized with a finish plus a clap, why is it hidden? It would make more sense if it were visible to allow players identify strong beats have more emphasis as well as it was done with the others. Consider applying the same over the following cases 00:52:475 (5) -
01:03:725 (1,2,3) - This flow is really forced in therms how players will react to this transition. The linear movement that creates the placement from (1) to (3) would flow nicer if you tried this rhythm to make a lovely motion among these notes. Like this.
01:07:006 (2) - Just a suggestion but a 1/2 slider doesn't give the proper emphasis this sections aims due it ended like an offbeat. It would be better if you used two circles instead to fix this.
01:28:100 (4,5,6) - This pattern was really confusing because the hidden hitcircle doesn't make sense here when song aims for visible patterns due the piano waves which sound here. Try unstacking this 01:28:568 (5) - and place it here 408|136.
01:28:803 (6,1) - I do believe these would play better if you tried doing Ctrl + G over these since the main wave beat resides here.

freebird42

02:18:608 (6) - Overmapped. There's no slight sound here to emphasize with a circle. While I do see what you pretended to do here with the triplet, this ends just unfitting with the segment. Hence, removing it would make a more readable pattern in therms of rhythms.
02:23:178 (2) - Would you mind removing the whistle here? The way I see things, this just sounds inappropriate according to how the whistle is managed over this segment.
02:37:475 (1,2) - This pattern creates an awkward motion due the spacing used to highlight this part. I'm not sure that placing them as far as they are would allow players to recognize the circle is snapped to the white tick, is a good idea. What about shortening the spacing between those two objects? I do believe using 0.50x - 0.80x of Distance Snap would definitely improve how players will approach this pattern Try it! Consider applying over the following cases 02:42:631 (6,1) - 03:00:912 (3,4) - 03:08:412 (3,4) - 03:09:350 (1,2) - 03:10:287 (3,4) -
02:38:178 (3,4) - Here occurs the opposite. How about increasing the DS between these two? I see what you tried to do here with the stack but honestly saying, the spacing here doesn't really highlight the rhythm-placement because this would play better if you used a higher spacing between these objects. What do you think? o:
02:40:053 (3) - I'm not sure that I agree with the rhythm choice you decided to map here. The reverse feel rather misleading to the actual vocals because the strong beat sounds here 02:40:756 - Therefore, there's no slight sound yo highlight over the slider's end 02:40:990 - due it ends being off as is. Hence, I think you should remove the reverse to emphasize nicer the rhythm and follow intuitively the vocals here.
04:09:115 (4,1) - Increase the spacing here for consistency as well as you did with the previous patterns.

DailyCare

06:52:943 (2) - NC
07:36:537 (6,8) - Claps here, please.
07:46:381 (5,6,1) - Variation is important, but honestly the flow here is really awkward. While I do recognize what you intended to do here, this just ends leading into an uncomfortable motion to players. I do believe putting them as you've been doing it would make a more pleasant pattern as you already know how to do.
From this section, I think these objects 08:04:662 (4) - 08:06:537 (4) - 08:08:412 (4) - 08:10:287 (4) - should be with New Combo to emphasize better the vocals here. While I know you're following DS here, I think it would be way better if you highlighted them with NC to recognize the vocal change here.

Avishay

09:49:662 (4,1,2) - Umm... Is this NC pattern intentional? Because this looks somewhat disorganizing.

That should be all. Poke me back at your earliest convenience to do the recheck.

KappaPraise

316 posts

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Topic Starter

KappaPraise 2016-06-14T06:42:05+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow! Modding upon your request.

00:14:740 (7,1) - Distance between these should be higher as well as you did here 00:10:990 (3,1) - . As it is now the emphasis goes on (7) will mislead the current motion that was supposed to be emphasized here. Hence, it would flow good if you short the distance between these 00:14:506 (6,7) - to fix this. fixed spacing
00:21:772 (6) - I really liked how this slider floes but the rhythm feels like it was stopped because the main beat was hold as a slider-tick presented with this slider. Moreover, ending the slider on the red tick would make much sense because neither vocals nor instruments have a sound there. It would be way better if you used 2 circles on 1/2 to fill out the rhythm on this part. ok
00:23:295 (4) - Overmapped. There's no slight sound here at the blue tick to place a circle because it doesn't match the song well. Consider to remove it to simply the rhythm and follow the current structures mapped over this segment. What about using a 1/1 slider here to hold nicely the wave sound of the instruments here? Please, try it. Okay, I made same rhythm like in begin, it exactly fits here too
00:26:225 (1,2,3,4,5) - I was just curious why the DS used here is higher when the stream of the beginning used a sensible DS for the patterning. I do believe lowering the DS over that pattern as it was done here 00:18:725 (1,2,3,4) - would fit awesomely the mapset. In begin I made less DS, because with same spacing like here it looks stretched to fill the screen, imo that looks weird, anyway both parts playable)
00:26:928 (6,7,8) - This section feels somehow odd to the gameplay because the motion is simplified into sliders and one circle which this clearly claims for more emphasis. I suggest you to try remaking the whole section with circles as a star pattern to give players the idea the strong beats resides here 00:27:865 (4) - as you were following vocals at that spot. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try! ; ) Ok, I'll try
00:37:240 (5,1) - The blanket looks good but it doesn't help at all to have a short DS when the downbeats supports rather higher spacing as you were mapping just before. I do believe placing (5) here 311|189 would improve significantly the transition of these objects here. Nice
00:44:740 (6,1) - While the timeline says the slider is the strong beat, in rhythmical therms, they don't flow good. It would be way better if you did ctrl + G here to improve nicely the rhythm of this section. Ok
00:48:725 (6) - If this beat is as strong as to be emphasized with a finish plus a clap, why is it hidden? It would make more sense if it were visible to allow players identify strong beats have more emphasis as well as it was done with the others. Consider applying the same over the following cases 00:52:475 (5) - You are right
01:03:725 (1,2,3) - This flow is really forced in therms how players will react to this transition. The linear movement that creates the placement from (1) to (3) would flow nicer if you tried this rhythm to make a lovely motion among these notes. Like this. Ye, ye
01:07:006 (2) - Just a suggestion but a 1/2 slider doesn't give the proper emphasis this sections aims due it ended like an offbeat. It would be better if you used two circles instead to fix this. I clearly hear there long sound and 1/2 slider fits here perfect
01:28:100 (4,5,6) - This pattern was really confusing because the hidden hitcircle doesn't make sense here when song aims for visible patterns due the piano waves which sound here. Try unstacking this 01:28:568 (5) - and place it here 408|136. Made something different
01:28:803 (6,1) - I do believe these would play better if you tried doing Ctrl + G over these since the main wave beat resides here. You are right!
That should be all. Poke me back at your earliest convenience to do the recheck. I'll call you soon Kappa

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

1,071 posts

Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2016-06-14T08:29:10+00:00

@Happy88
I fixed all, thanks to check it xD

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Ambu5h

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Ambu5h 2016-06-14T12:53:39+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
02:18:608 (6) - Overmapped. There's no slight sound here to emphasize with a circle. While I do see what you pretended to do here with the triplet, this ends just unfitting with the segment. Hence, removing it would make a more readable pattern in therms of rhythms. ok
02:23:178 (2) - Would you mind removing the whistle here? The way I see things, this just sounds inappropriate according to how the whistle is managed over this segment. listened to this moment many times and i really think that there are no problems with hitsounds, sorry
02:37:475 (1,2) - This pattern creates an awkward motion due the spacing used to highlight this part. I'm not sure that placing them as far as they are would allow players to recognize the circle is snapped to the white tick, is a good idea. What about shortening the spacing between those two objects? I do believe using 0.50x - 0.80x of Distance Snap would definitely improve how players will approach this pattern Try it! Consider applying over the following cases 02:42:631 (6,1) - 03:00:912 (3,4) - 03:08:412 (3,4) - 03:09:350 (1,2) - 03:10:287 (3,4) - i do believe that players should orient by rhythm of the song and not only by spacing, but well, i applied all except this 03:00:912 (3,4) - 03:08:412 (3,4) - 03:09:350 (1,2) - 03:10:287 (3,4) - because this moments are easy, i dunno how can player miss or sliderbreak here
02:38:178 (3,4) - Here occurs the opposite. How about increasing the DS between these two? I see what you tried to do here with the stack but honestly saying, the spacing here doesn't really highlight the rhythm-placement because this would play better if you used a higher spacing between these objects. What do you think? o: im not sure what do you mean, there's no stack here 02:38:178 (3,4) if you mean this stack 02:38:881 (4,1) - than i should say that i'm highly confident about this one, and dont wanna change it
02:40:053 (3) - I'm not sure that I agree with the rhythm choice you decided to map here. The reverse feel rather misleading to the actual vocals because the strong beat sounds here 02:40:756 - Therefore, there's no slight sound yo highlight over the slider's end 02:40:990 - due it ends being off as is. Hence, I think you should remove the reverse to emphasize nicer the rhythm and follow intuitively the vocals here. i dont map vocals here (well at least i try not to do that). i need this 1/1 reversal slider to avoid long confusing pauses between objects. before remapping this part i used to emphasize vocals and i had long slider art here i think, but then i decided to remap this part and create my own rhythm based on instrumentals, though sometimes objects can follow vocals, so yeah
04:09:115 (4,1) - Increase the spacing here for consistency as well as you did with the previous patterns. increased a bit

Thank you HappyRocket88!

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HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-06-15T03:59:18+00:00

freebird42 wrote:
02:40:053 (3) - I'm not sure that I agree with the rhythm choice you decided to map here. The reverse feel rather misleading to the actual vocals because the strong beat sounds here 02:40:756 - Therefore, there's no slight sound yo highlight over the slider's end 02:40:990 - due it ends being off as is. Hence, I think you should remove the reverse to emphasize nicer the rhythm and follow intuitively the vocals here. i dont map vocals here (well at least i try not to do that). i need this 1/1 reversal slider to avoid long confusing pauses between objects. before remapping this part i used to emphasize vocals and i had long slider art here i think, but then i decided to remap this part and create my own rhythm based on instrumentals, though sometimes objects can follow vocals, so yeah

The reason I said that is because following that instrument you said you had been mapping it isn't as strong as the instruments that came out here 02:48:256 - I even had a discussion with WISPG_G about it and I do understand your point of not leaving long pause among notes, however, in this case, the slider-tail just doesn't fit at all due the rhythm transits awkwardly here. The piano sound of that spot is just weaker than doesn't lead players to understand the rhythm choice you deiced to create here. Therefore, removing the reverse and adding a note here 02:48:256 - would follow instruments as well as how vocals become prominent at this pattern.

@Wisp 09:49:897 (1) - Remove NC here and add NC here 09:50:600 (3) - o: If vocals were than strong then, the New Combo should emphasize them properly and not place it over an unfitting red-tick.

That should be all. I'd like to see freebird's reasoning in case he still wants to keep his pattern as is. Call me back once he has replied!

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