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Intone

Nathan Kiss wrote:

m4m we talked about in game :)

[Insane]
  1. 00:03:296 (1) - Make this slider a bit more curvier like 00:01:805 (1,4,)good catch. remade!
  2. 00:07:395 (1) - double reverse sliders very rarely play well. I think you'd be better off turning this into a small stream especially since it is an Insane. if you do like that then try kicksliders.oooh I love this idea. The beginnning is also really lackinng inn streams and the ending is really stream heavy. This could help balance it out! Thanks =)
  3. 00:17:830 (5,6) - Replace these with 1/1 slidersi like this here, I think it looks nice. If other modders brinng it up, I will change it
  4. 00:20:811 (1) - turn into 2 circles good idea, remapped this. and the slider following.
  5. 00:22:675 (7,8,9,10) - A square is very boring to play here imo. try a more creative pattern, also try not to go clockwise like you have for the majority of the patterns prior to itchanged to counterclockwise. Kept the square though. I might consider moving them farther away to emphasize the "end sound" beats here from the song...keeping ann eye on this because I think ccw might have an adverse affect on gameplay.
  6. 00:26:960 to 00:31:619 - keep finishes at 00:27:147, 00:27:892, 00:30:128 and 00:30:873 and delete the rest. The finishes drown out the songgood note. I'm working on relooking at all the finishes.
  7. 00:26:960 (1,2,3,4) - have these curved lessdone
  8. 00:28:451 (5) - Overlaps like these arent prettyfixed. Ended up making the ccw scheme farther away, I think it should stillbe OK though.
  9. 00:36:650 (3) - Delete. Also turn 00:37:023 (1) into a circle. Fun to play and follows the rhythm betterdeleted. Change (1) innto a stream.
  10. 00:40:749 (7,8) - reduce DScheckmark
  11. 00:48:575 (8) - delete thisdone
  12. 00:48:762 (1) - turn this into a streamdone
  13. 00:55:283 (1,3) - delete this 2 sliders and just map these parts to 1/2 noteschanged to stream
  14. 01:09:445 (2) - Turn into a 1/1 slider noticed this area was gennerally really messy and had beats out of place. I remade this area. I introduced a slider that is hopefully "delicious" lol...not really sure I like that slider there since it feels a little random, but we'll see what future modders say/suggest.
  15. 01:10:190 (5) - turn this into a 1/2 slidersee above^^
  16. 01:15:407 (3) - Turn into a 1/1 sliderleft as is. I like this pattern. Will reconsider if other modders bring it up again~
  17. 01:27:333 (12) - curve this lessdone

[final thoughts]
  1. I think you need to rework your NCs and hitsound patterns. Try to have your NCs 1 or 2 measures long to keep the consistant.I will look into this once I deem my map has been modded enough that the circle+slider placements are satisfactory enough. Right now I think the map is still in some need of modding.
  2. I recommend to put the kiai time from 01:02:923 to 01:26:774
will do!

Well thats all from me, I hope this mod was helpful, GL! I'm alot better at modding easier diffs so if you want me to mod your other diffs when youre finished pm me :)

I really love the sliders to streams ideas you gave me! And the notes that we deleted. I feel like the map feels a lot more interesting nnow. Thanks!!
Topic Starter
Intone
From Chupalika (for kudosu proof)

->>I edited out IRL names from the text.
<Hard>
21:49 Intone: PLSTEST SOMETHING AND TELL ME IF ITS CANCER
21:49 Intone: cuz like if it is then i dont wanna keep using the rhythm for the entire map
22:23 Chupalika: oh kay
22:26 Intone: ok pls tell me if the rhythm is too hard
22:26 Intone: for a 3.4* map
22:26 *Intone is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/872407 Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate]
22:26 Intone: <Hard> difficulty
22:27 Chupalika: :O
22:27 Chupalika: lol should I do a mod or something
22:27 Intone: sure
22:27 Chupalika: the rhythm is okay I think
22:28 Intone: even like the more...twerky ones?
22:28 Chupalika: idk what that means lol
22:29 Intone: specifically starting at
22:29 Intone: 00:33:296
22:29 Chupalika: oh yea that part is weird
22:29 Intone: should i just get rid of the single beats?
22:29 Intone: cuz otherwise I think the rhythm is kind of boring :/
22:30 Intone: so im not reeeeeeealllly sure what to do
22:30 Chupalika: oh well if you wanted to do that
22:30 Chupalika: I just think it was weird cause you only had that in one part of the map
22:31 Chupalika: so like suddenly a new rhythm
22:31 Chupalika: otherwise I think it's fine to keep the same "boring" rhythm
22:31 Chupalika: also that combo is so long
22:32 Intone: oh yeah
22:32 Intone: i finish mapping and then do the NCs haha
22:32 Intone: less to think about at a time...can you uhhh
22:32 Intone: i updated it to a different rhythm there
22:33 Intone: can u see if this one is better? if it is i will put it like everywhere it fits in the map so its not so random
22:33 Chupalika: oh man that one's even weirder LOL
22:33 Intone: I just felt like the one you just saw *sounds*/feels a little weird
22:33 Intone: really LOL
22:33 Intone: i thought it would fit better
22:33 Chupalika: oh try deleting 00:33:575 (24)
22:34 Chupalika: i think this works
22:34 Intone: i guess i wil just have to be boring :"(
22:34 Chupalika: D:
22:34 Intone: hmmm you're right
22:34 Intone: yes i like this
22:34 Intone: just the 24, and not 26
22:34 Intone: !!!!!!
22:35 Chupalika: :D
22:35 Intone: thx you solved my headache lol
22:36 Chupalika: oh okay
22:36 Chupalika: actually I have more to say though
22:36 Intone: ok
22:36 Intone: TELL ME ERYTHING
22:36 Intone: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:36 Chupalika: ???????????
22:37 Chupalika: is the snap distance change at 00:07:395 on purpose
22:38 Intone: for the 1 repeat slider?
22:38 Intone: yeah I changed it cuz I thought it looked nicer this way
22:38 Intone: and like, was easier for the player not to slider break here
22:38 Chupalika: until the stream
22:38 Intone: oh!
22:38 Intone: yes
22:38 Chupalika: oh yea
22:38 Intone: I think its .7
22:38 Chupalika: I guess that's okay
22:39 Intone: i think this makes it better looking
22:39 Chupalika: but uhh
22:39 Intone: otherwise too spaced
22:39 Chupalika: I think the other parts should be consistent
22:39 Intone: hmm
22:40 Intone: like where?
22:41 Chupalika: just a suggestion but 00:24:724 (2) on top of 1 and then maybe a repeat slider
22:41 Intone: because that phrase doesnt repeat itself until later i think
22:41 Chupalika: oh I mean
22:41 Chupalika: like, you put 00:07:768 (2) right next to the 1
22:41 Chupalika: to make it easier to not slider break
22:41 Chupalika: but the next 5 seconds are
22:41 Chupalika: also next to each other
22:41 Chupalika: I think you should make them 1.5 distance
22:42 Chupalika: basically saying 00:08:327 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) is a problem
22:43 Chupalika: also think 00:29:755 (16) is somewhat random
22:43 Chupalika: 00:35:345 (30,31,32) - inconsistent spacing!
22:44 Chupalika: 00:42:240 (51) - random too maybe
22:45 Chupalika: actually you might wanna fix the spacing in the entire part here 00:35:718 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37)
22:45 Intone: for the 00:24:724 like this? http://puu.sh/moSdI/c9b066d3fc.jpg
22:46 Intone: 00:07:768 http://puu.sh/moSg7/2cc9a2abb6.jpg
22:48 Chupalika: I was thinking more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4297951
22:49 Chupalika: i'm being summoned for dota
22:49 Chupalika: i'll talk to you laterr
22:50 Chupalika: also change offset to 1790
22:50 Chupalika: :D
22:52 Intone: DESPERATELY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE SPEED MOD LOL
22:52 Chupalika: LOL
22:52 Chupalika: I'm good arent I
22:52 Chupalika: xD
22:53 Intone: yeah haha
22:53 Intone: thats really weird..
22:53 Intone: about the offset
22:53 Intone: because 1790 sounds right for this version
22:53 Intone: but if I change my harder version to 1790, its definitely off...
22:53 Intone: is it supposed to work that way?
22:54 Chupalika: nah
22:54 Chupalika: :o
22:54 Intone: see if you change <insane> to 1790
22:54 Chupalika: actually 1790 sounds right for both
22:54 Intone: it is definitely off
22:54 Intone: hmm really?
22:54 Intone: ill try again
22:54 Chupalika: okay
22:54 Chupalika: cause I am just trying it now and it sounds good
22:55 Intone: oh oops you're right
22:55 Intone: I pressed J on everything and it moved it 1.00001 spaces instead of just .0001
22:55 Chupalika: ohh
22:55 Chupalika: I just did ctrl a and dragged on the timeline thing
23:15 Intone: updated map

changed everything except 00:35:000 area, if others bring this up as an issue I will rethink it
Kagetsu
from #modreqs

[Insane]
  1. perhaps set preview point here 01:02:908 - ? since it's the interesting part of the song, also try to add kiai time near that part
  2. combos are kinda long in some places (for example this 00:07:379 (1) - ) maybe adding NC here 00:07:752 - and here 00:09:243 - could fix it. as a general guide... try to make shorter combos
  3. spacing is also random across all the map.. try to have the same space between the objects, it will make your beatmap to be more organized (for example... distance between this 2 00:07:752 (1,2) - should be the same as this 00:08:125 (2,3) - you can see distance between two objects simply clicking in one and then go to the right upper corner of the screen.
  4. 00:28:622 - try to make the strong downbeat as a clickable object, it works better
  5. this stream is overmapped... take care about overmapping D:
  6. 01:02:907 (7) - add new combo
  7. 01:08:870 (13,1) - swap new combo
they're just general advices, try to appy all over the map.
yeah... short mod but i got to go
Good luck!
(sry about my english lol)
Topic Starter
Intone

Kagetsu wrote:

from #modreqs

[Insane]
  1. perhaps set preview point here 01:02:908 - ? since it's the interesting part of the song, also try to add kiai time near that partwill add kiai time here once i figure out how lol
  2. combos are kinda long in some places (for example this 00:07:379 (1) - ) maybe adding NC here 00:07:752 - and here 00:09:243 - could fix it. as a general guide... try to make shorter combosNC added at 00:09:243, but I left the others as is.
  3. spacing is also random across all the map.. try to have the same space between the objects, it will make your beatmap to be more organized (for example... distance between this 2 00:07:752 (1,2) - should be the same as this 00:08:125 (2,3) - you can see distance between two objects simply clicking in one and then go to the right upper corner of the screen.done. Went over ALL distances in the beatmap resnapping everything :o
  4. 00:28:622 - try to make the strong downbeat as a clickable object, it works betterdone this is much better. Added a circle in between and moved everything down 1/4 beat.
  5. this stream is overmapped... take care about overmapping D:hmm several people said this. I will look into it, and try to come up with something new instead of a few of the streams.
  6. 01:02:907 (7) - add new combodone
  7. 01:08:870 (13,1) - swap new combodone
they're just general advices, try to appy all over the map.
yeah... short mod but i got to go
Good luck!
(sry about my english lol)
Thanks a lot for the mod! I will contemplate the deathstream ;)
Chupalika
2016-01-08 21:49 Intone: BRANDON
2016-01-08 21:50 Intone: PLSTEST SOMETHING AND TELL ME IF ITS CANCER
2016-01-08 21:50 Intone: cuz like if it is then i dont wanna keep using the rhythm for the entire map
2016-01-08 22:23 Chupalika: oh kay
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: ok pls tell me if the rhythm is too hard
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: for a 3.4* map
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/872407 Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate]
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: <Hard> difficulty
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: :O
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: lol should I do a mod or something
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: the rhythm is okay I think
2016-01-08 22:27 Intone: sure
2016-01-08 22:28 Intone: even like the more...twerky ones?
2016-01-08 22:28 Chupalika: idk what that means lol
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: specifically starting at
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: 00:33:296
2016-01-08 22:29 Chupalika: oh yea that part is weird
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: should i just get rid of the single beats?
2016-01-08 22:30 Intone: cuz otherwise I think the rhythm is kind of boring :/
2016-01-08 22:30 Intone: so im not reeeeeeealllly sure what to do
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: oh well if you wanted to do that
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: I just think it was weird cause you only had that in one part of the map
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: so like suddenly a new rhythm
2016-01-08 22:31 Chupalika: otherwise I think it's fine to keep the same "boring" rhythm
2016-01-08 22:31 Chupalika: also that combo is so long
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: oh yeah
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: i finish mapping and then do the NCs haha
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: less to think about at a time...can you uhhh
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: i updated it to a different rhythm there
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: can u see if this one is better? if it is i will put it like everywhere it fits in the map so its not so random
2016-01-08 22:33 Chupalika: oh man that one's even weirder LOL
2016-01-08 22:33 I just felt like the one you just saw *sounds*/feels a little weird
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: really LOL
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: i thought it would fit better
2016-01-08 22:33 Chupalika: oh try deleting 00:33:575 (24)
2016-01-08 22:34 Chupalika: i think this works
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: i guess i wil just have to be boring :"(
2016-01-08 22:34 Chupalika: D:
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: hmmm you're right
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: yes i like this
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: just the 24, and not 26
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: !!!!!!
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: :D
2016-01-08 22:35 Intone: thx brendon you solved my headache lol
2016-01-08 22:35 Intone: want some kudosu
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: ehh
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: what do I post
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: LOL
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: osu text->chat
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: chat->text on the forums
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: oh okay
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: actually I have more to say though
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: ok
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: TELL ME ERYTHING
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: ???????????
2016-01-08 22:37 Chupalika: is the snap distance change at 00:07:395 on purpose
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: for the 1 repeat slider?
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: yeah I changed it cuz I thought it looked nicer this way
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: and like, was easier for the player not to slider break here
2016-01-08 22:38 Chupalika: until the stream
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: oh!
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: yes
2016-01-08 22:38 Chupalika: oh yea
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: I think its .7
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: I guess that's okay
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: but uhh
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: i think this makes it better looking
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: otherwise too spaced
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: I think the other parts should be consistent
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: hmm
2016-01-08 22:40 Intone: like where?
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: just a suggestion but 00:24:724 (2) on top of 1 and then maybe a repeat slider
2016-01-08 22:41 Intone: because that phrase doesnt repeat itself until later i think
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: oh I mean
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: like, you put 00:07:768 (2) right next to the 1
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: to make it easier to not slider break
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: but the next 5 seconds are
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: also next to each other
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: I think you should make them 1.5 distance
2016-01-08 22:42 Chupalika: basically saying 00:08:327 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) is a problem
2016-01-08 22:43 Chupalika: also think 00:29:755 (16) is somewhat random
2016-01-08 22:43 Chupalika: 00:35:345 (30,31,32) - inconsistent spacing!
2016-01-08 22:44 Chupalika: 00:42:240 (51) - random too maybe
2016-01-08 22:45 Chupalika: actually you might wanna fix the spacing in the entire part here 00:35:718 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37)
2016-01-08 22:46 Intone: for the 00:24:724 like this? http://puu.sh/moSdI/c9b066d3fc.jpg
2016-01-08 22:47 Intone: 00:07:768 http://puu.sh/moSg7/2cc9a2abb6.jpg
2016-01-08 22:48 Chupalika: I was thinking more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4297951
2016-01-08 22:49 Chupalika: i'm being summoned for dota
2016-01-08 22:49 Chupalika: i'll talk to you laterr
2016-01-08 22:50 Chupalika: also change offset to 1790
2016-01-08 22:50 Chupalika: :D
2016-01-08 22:52 Intone: DESPERATELY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE SPEED MOD LOL
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: LOL
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: I'm good arent I
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: xD
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: yeah haha
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: thats really weird..
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: about the offset
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: because 1790 sounds right for this version
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: but if I change my harder version to 1790, its definitely off...
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: is it supposed to work that way?
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: nah
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: :o
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: actually 1790 sounds right for both
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: see if you change <insane> to 1790
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: it is definitely off
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: hmm really?
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: ill try again
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: okay
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: cause I am just trying it now and it sounds good
2016-01-08 22:55 Intone: oh oops you're right
2016-01-08 22:55 Intone: I pressed J on everything and it moved it 1.00001 spaces instead of just .0001
2016-01-08 22:55 Chupalika: ohh
2016-01-08 22:55 Chupalika: I just did ctrl a and dragged on the timeline thing
2016-01-08 23:15 Intone: updated map
2016-01-08 23:18 Intone: ok just comment on the thread pls thx
ima try to be more in depth
<b>Hard</b>
00:02:721 (3,4,5) - you could position these so that 5 is stacked on 3, and also make 5 an inverse of 4 (ctrl C, H, J), so it looks nice! https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298755
00:03:839 (5,6) - spacing issue
00:12:225 (6,1) - spacing issue still here too, maybe something like this would work https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298771
00:13:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing here too, 2.3x, 2x, 1.5x ???
00:24:522 (1,2) - stack 2 on 1
00:30:858 (1,2,3) - spacing!
00:31:603 (3,4,5) - !!! bring 4 closer to 3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298782
00:34:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - lots of weird spacing here, take a look at these and see if you like it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298794 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298799
00:39:615 (10,1) - 1 is too close to 10 (spacing)
00:44:460 (6) - random new rhythm!
00:45:392 (9,1) - 1 is too close to 9 (spacing)
00:52:845 (4,5,6,7) - weird spacing? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298809
01:16:138 (6,1) - 1 is too close to 6 (spacing)
01:25:454 (6,7,8) - whoa... well the slider could be shaped a little better, and I think you should ctrl G it... and it didn't end the map properly, fix that somehow too
here's a suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298856 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298862
make an inherited point at 01:25:454 and adjust slider speed appropriately

(at this point I got sidetracked and started editing the map a lot and forgetting to log it here)

I think you could use a lot of work on the aesthetics though. For the regular curved sliders, just one tick in the middle is good enough (for a total of three ticks). For the angular sliders, the red dot right in the middle is what you should aim to do most of the time. For the fancy sliders, try symmetrcalizing the dots, it will help make them look better.
Speaking of symmetricism, try to incorporate more of those in your maps too. CTRL CHJ -ing things helps a lot.
And of course, after perfecting your fancy sliders, you can copy and paste them into other parts of your map (for example, you use that W slider a lot)
There are other things to consider like rhythm and flow but you can worry about that later I think

Okay so I ended up editing the map so much I decided to save my own version and put it up here
Topic Starter
Intone
above

Chupalika wrote:

2016-01-08 21:49 Intone: BRANDON
2016-01-08 21:50 Intone: PLSTEST SOMETHING AND TELL ME IF ITS CANCER
2016-01-08 21:50 Intone: cuz like if it is then i dont wanna keep using the rhythm for the entire map
2016-01-08 22:23 Chupalika: oh kay
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: ok pls tell me if the rhythm is too hard
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: for a 3.4* map
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/872407 Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate]
2016-01-08 22:26 Intone: <Hard> difficulty
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: :O
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: lol should I do a mod or something
2016-01-08 22:27 Chupalika: the rhythm is okay I think
2016-01-08 22:27 Intone: sure
2016-01-08 22:28 Intone: even like the more...twerky ones?
2016-01-08 22:28 Chupalika: idk what that means lol
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: specifically starting at
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: 00:33:296
2016-01-08 22:29 Chupalika: oh yea that part is weird
2016-01-08 22:29 Intone: should i just get rid of the single beats?
2016-01-08 22:30 Intone: cuz otherwise I think the rhythm is kind of boring :/
2016-01-08 22:30 Intone: so im not reeeeeeealllly sure what to do
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: oh well if you wanted to do that
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: I just think it was weird cause you only had that in one part of the map
2016-01-08 22:30 Chupalika: so like suddenly a new rhythm
2016-01-08 22:31 Chupalika: otherwise I think it's fine to keep the same "boring" rhythm
2016-01-08 22:31 Chupalika: also that combo is so long
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: oh yeah
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: i finish mapping and then do the NCs haha
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: less to think about at a time...can you uhhh
2016-01-08 22:32 Intone: i updated it to a different rhythm there
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: can u see if this one is better? if it is i will put it like everywhere it fits in the map so its not so random
2016-01-08 22:33 Chupalika: oh man that one's even weirder LOL
2016-01-08 22:33 I just felt like the one you just saw *sounds*/feels a little weird
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: really LOL
2016-01-08 22:33 Intone: i thought it would fit better
2016-01-08 22:33 Chupalika: oh try deleting 00:33:575 (24)
2016-01-08 22:34 Chupalika: i think this works
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: i guess i wil just have to be boring :"(
2016-01-08 22:34 Chupalika: D:
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: hmmm you're right
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: yes i like this
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: just the 24, and not 26
2016-01-08 22:34 Intone: !!!!!!
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: :D
2016-01-08 22:35 Intone: thx brendon you solved my headache lol
2016-01-08 22:35 Intone: want some kudosu
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: ehh
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: what do I post
2016-01-08 22:35 Chupalika: LOL
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: osu text->chat
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: chat->text on the forums
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: oh okay
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: actually I have more to say though
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: ok
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: TELL ME ERYTHING
2016-01-08 22:36 Intone: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-08 22:36 Chupalika: ???????????
2016-01-08 22:37 Chupalika: is the snap distance change at 00:07:395 on purpose
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: for the 1 repeat slider?
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: yeah I changed it cuz I thought it looked nicer this way
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: and like, was easier for the player not to slider break here
2016-01-08 22:38 Chupalika: until the stream
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: oh!
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: yes
2016-01-08 22:38 Chupalika: oh yea
2016-01-08 22:38 Intone: I think its .7
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: I guess that's okay
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: but uhh
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: i think this makes it better looking
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: otherwise too spaced
2016-01-08 22:39 Chupalika: I think the other parts should be consistent
2016-01-08 22:39 Intone: hmm
2016-01-08 22:40 Intone: like where?
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: just a suggestion but 00:24:724 (2) on top of 1 and then maybe a repeat slider
2016-01-08 22:41 Intone: because that phrase doesnt repeat itself until later i think
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: oh I mean
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: like, you put 00:07:768 (2) right next to the 1
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: to make it easier to not slider break
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: but the next 5 seconds are
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: also next to each other
2016-01-08 22:41 Chupalika: I think you should make them 1.5 distance
2016-01-08 22:42 Chupalika: basically saying 00:08:327 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) is a problem
2016-01-08 22:43 Chupalika: also think 00:29:755 (16) is somewhat random
2016-01-08 22:43 Chupalika: 00:35:345 (30,31,32) - inconsistent spacing!
2016-01-08 22:44 Chupalika: 00:42:240 (51) - random too maybe
2016-01-08 22:45 Chupalika: actually you might wanna fix the spacing in the entire part here 00:35:718 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37)
2016-01-08 22:46 Intone: for the 00:24:724 like this? http://puu.sh/moSdI/c9b066d3fc.jpg
2016-01-08 22:47 Intone: 00:07:768 http://puu.sh/moSg7/2cc9a2abb6.jpg
2016-01-08 22:48 Chupalika: I was thinking more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4297951
2016-01-08 22:49 Chupalika: i'm being summoned for dota
2016-01-08 22:49 Chupalika: i'll talk to you laterr
2016-01-08 22:50 Chupalika: also change offset to 1790
2016-01-08 22:50 Chupalika: :D
2016-01-08 22:52 Intone: DESPERATELY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE SPEED MOD LOL
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: LOL
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: I'm good arent I
2016-01-08 22:52 Chupalika: xD
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: yeah haha
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: thats really weird..
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: about the offset
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: because 1790 sounds right for this version
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: but if I change my harder version to 1790, its definitely off...
2016-01-08 22:53 Intone: is it supposed to work that way?
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: nah
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: :o
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: actually 1790 sounds right for both
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: see if you change <insane> to 1790
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: it is definitely off
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: hmm really?
2016-01-08 22:54 Intone: ill try again
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: okay
2016-01-08 22:54 Chupalika: cause I am just trying it now and it sounds good
2016-01-08 22:55 Intone: oh oops you're right
2016-01-08 22:55 Intone: I pressed J on everything and it moved it 1.00001 spaces instead of just .0001
2016-01-08 22:55 Chupalika: ohh
2016-01-08 22:55 Chupalika: I just did ctrl a and dragged on the timeline thing
2016-01-08 23:15 Intone: updated map
2016-01-08 23:18 Intone: ok just comment on the thread pls thx
ima try to be more in depth
<b>Hard</b>
00:02:721 (3,4,5) - you could position these so that 5 is stacked on 3, and also make 5 an inverse of 4 (ctrl C, H, J), so it looks nice! https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298755
00:03:839 (5,6) - spacing issue
00:12:225 (6,1) - spacing issue still here too, maybe something like this would work https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298771
00:13:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing here too, 2.3x, 2x, 1.5x ???
00:24:522 (1,2) - stack 2 on 1
00:30:858 (1,2,3) - spacing!
00:31:603 (3,4,5) - !!! bring 4 closer to 3 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298782
00:34:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - lots of weird spacing here, take a look at these and see if you like it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298794 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298799
00:39:615 (10,1) - 1 is too close to 10 (spacing)
00:44:460 (6) - random new rhythm!
00:45:392 (9,1) - 1 is too close to 9 (spacing)
00:52:845 (4,5,6,7) - weird spacing? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298809
01:16:138 (6,1) - 1 is too close to 6 (spacing)
01:25:454 (6,7,8) - whoa... well the slider could be shaped a little better, and I think you should ctrl G it... and it didn't end the map properly, fix that somehow too
here's a suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298856 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4298862
make an inherited point at 01:25:454 and adjust slider speed appropriately

(at this point I got sidetracked and started editing the map a lot and forgetting to log it here)

I think you could use a lot of work on the aesthetics though. For the regular curved sliders, just one tick in the middle is good enough (for a total of three ticks). For the angular sliders, the red dot right in the middle is what you should aim to do most of the time. For the fancy sliders, try symmetrcalizing the dots, it will help make them look better.
Speaking of symmetricism, try to incorporate more of those in your maps too. CTRL CHJ -ing things helps a lot.
And of course, after perfecting your fancy sliders, you can copy and paste them into other parts of your map (for example, you use that W slider a lot)
There are other things to consider like rhythm and flow but you can worry about that later I think

Okay so I ended up editing the map so much I decided to save my own version and put it up here
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!!! we talked in game and decided to just replace my hard mode with your edited mode--as I agree with all your changes!!! Thanks for all le helps!!

Will take this into account and look innto <innsane>~~then seek further modding
Topic Starter
Intone
moved to pending section--


:) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;) :) :D ;)

major edit: insane changed to 4.5 circle size.

Will look into beatmap sounds tonight.
LostRedX
Mods
Hard


00:40:454 - Add a circle right here to make it into a triple.

00:46:230 - Make this into a triple as well.

00:51:262 (7) - Remove the clap hitsound.

01:07:659 - Add a circle to make another triple.

Insane


00:10:920 (2) - ctrl+g

00:28:622 (6,7,8,9) - ctrl+g

00:30:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ctrl+g

00:33:839 (4) - Make this a straight down slider.

00:39:336 (2) - ctrl+g

00:42:597 (1) - Turn this sideways.

00:43:715 (5) - Curve the slider outwards.

00:47:628 (4) - ctrl+g

00:50:609 (8) - Move this to the same spot as 00:50:796 (9)

00:51:168 (10) - New Combo

00:54:709 (1,2,3) - Move these closer together, the jumps don't need to be that far apart.

00:55:827 (9) - New Combo

00:58:016 - Add a circle to this stream.

01:10:547 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g

01:21:914 (10) - Move this down 5 grid spaces.

Good Map, Hope it gets ranked :D
Topic Starter
Intone

LostRedX wrote:

Mods
Hard


00:40:454 - Add a circle right here to make it into a triple.cool, changed. I had left it as a double because I was worried triples might be too hard for a 3.4-.5 map, but yeah, the rhythm sounds weird here. Will look at other spots and just make them triples too.

00:46:230 - Make this into a triple as well.above^ :)

00:51:262 (7) - Remove the clap hitsound.leaving everything here--the sounds are going to be completely reworked in both maps, any sounds that are here now were sounds I randomly put in while creating the map, to try to test out sound schemes

01:07:659 - Add a circle to make another triple.done :)

Insane


00:10:920 (2) - ctrl+gdone!

00:28:622 (6,7,8,9) - ctrl+gdone!

00:30:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ctrl+gleft as is. I like the difficulty here. If other modders bring it up I will reconsider it!

00:33:839 (4) - Make this a straight down slider.done

00:39:336 (2) - ctrl+ginstead, I decided to make the slider point down left, and moved (3,4) around a little.

00:42:597 (1) - Turn this sideways.left as is, I think it needs to point this way for flow.

00:43:715 (5) - Curve the slider outwards.done

00:47:628 (4) - ctrl+ginstead, I rotated the end of the slider a little bit upwards

00:50:609 (8) - Move this to the same spot as 00:50:796 (9) cool, done!

00:51:168 (10) - New Combodone

00:54:709 (1,2,3) - Move these closer together, the jumps don't need to be that far apart.moved, and moved the ones after it too.

00:55:827 (9) - New Comboleft as is.

00:58:016 - Add a circle to this stream.left as is. The other streams are also 5's so I don't want to do a group of 6 suddenly.

01:10:547 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g[color=#FF000000]did to 2+4. should be good now[/color]

01:21:914 (10) - Move this down 5 grid spaces.hmm redid the snapping here to follow an earlier example of this flow scheme.

Good Map, Hope it gets ranked :D
thanks!!!! :)
Poi Panda
Hi! :D

General
  1. You need to add the source to the Hard difficulty.
  2. You need to add a preview point and keep this consistent over all difficulties.
  3. The background image is too big, it must be smaller than 1024x768 pixels for 4:3 or 1366x768 pixels for 16:9.
  4. If you're going to try and rank this, you need an easy/normal difficulty.
    I would recommend reading the ranking criteria

Hard
  1. 00:12:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This whole stream feels out of place, I would recommend changing to some singletaps/sliders to be consistent with the mapping style before this.
  2. 00:33:653 (7,8,9) - This plays really strangely, I'm not even sure if the 8 is necessary.
  3. 00:36:448 (7,1) - The 1 being directly below the 7 doesn't make rhythmical sense, as it makes me read it as 2 singletaps like the ones at 00:29:740 I would recommend moving the 1 from under the 7.
  4. 00:50:796 (6,7,8) - Plays really strangely like 00:33:653 (7,8,9)
  5. 01:04:212 (6) - This being a reverse slider feels out of place, I would recommend making a second slider or a single note instead.
  6. 01:25:454 (1) - I don't like this slider, it lasts for too long, I would consider making it a spinner or deleting it and mapping it differently.

Insane
  1. 00:37:380 (6) - Consider moving to (484, 308) for better flow from the burst.
  2. 00:39:243 (1,2) -This really doesn't play well. I'd say just delete the 1 and make the slider longer.
  3. 00:41:665 (2,3) - Awkward to read with the 3 under the reverse slider, consider moving.
  4. 00:41:479 (1,2,3,4,5) - In this part, it seems like you have no idea what you're mapping to. It seems mapped to the vocals and then to the beat. Take a look at this again.
  5. 00:48:746 (1,2,3,4,5) - This doesn't seem to fit the music at all, and seems out of place even if it does.
  6. 00:50:237 (7) - NC
  7. 00:51:541 (11,12,13,14,15) - Overmapped, I don't think a stream fits at all.
  8. 00:52:286 (1,2) - What are these 2 notes even mapped to?
  9. 01:02:907 (1) - Remove NC
  10. 01:13:156 (9,10) - Why are these 2 notes so close when there is quite a lot of time between them? It makes it really awkward to time.
  11. 01:13:715 (10) - NC
  12. 01:14:833 (1) - Remove NC
  13. 01:15:205 (2) - NC
  14. 01:21:355 (7,8,9) - This doesn't seem to play right but I can't quite put my finger on the issue, I think the 8 should be a slider that finishes where the 9 is currently, but I'm not 100% sure, have a test around with this part.
  15. 01:27:317 (11,12,1) - These 2 notes before the spinner don't make sense, either remove the 2 notes and extend the spinner or delete the spinner and map something there.

Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps! I can always take a look when this is updated, just let me know if you want me to!

Good luck :D
Topic Starter
Intone

PoisonPanda wrote:

Hi! :D

General
  1. You need to add the source to the Hard difficulty.done
  2. You need to add a preview point and keep this consistent over all difficulties.done
  3. The background image is too big, it must be smaller than 1024x768 pixels for 4:3 or 1366x768 pixels for 16:9.done
  4. If you're going to try and rank this, you need an easy/normal difficulty.ok ;-; 2.2*
    I would recommend reading the ranking criteria

Hard
  1. 00:12:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This whole stream feels out of place, I would recommend changing to some singletaps/sliders to be consistent with the mapping style before this.hmm ok, changed to repeat sliders. Let me know how it feels now.
  2. 00:33:653 (7,8,9) - This plays really strangely, I'm not even sure if the 8 is necessary.i think we need it to follow the melody. Leaving this as is
  3. 00:36:448 (7,1) - The 1 being directly below the 7 doesn't make rhythmical sense, as it makes me read it as 2 singletaps like the ones at 00:29:740 I would recommend moving the 1 from under the 7.fixed
  4. 00:50:796 (6,7,8) - Plays really strangely like 00:33:653 (7,8,9)hmm I'm leaving this because I like the color it brings to the map. If other modders bring it up I'll rethink it.
  5. 01:04:212 (6) - This being a reverse slider feels out of place, I would recommend making a second slider or a single note instead.leaving this, I think its needed to follow the music. Maybe a different slider though? will consider.
  6. 01:25:454 (1) - I don't like this slider, it lasts for too long, I would consider making it a spinner or deleting it and mapping it differently.to be honest a spinner would work but this slider is just a creative expression. It's a upa

Insane
  1. 00:37:380 (6) - Consider moving to (484, 308) for better flow from the burst.done
  2. 00:39:243 (1,2) -This really doesn't play well. I'd say just delete the 1 and make the slider longer.changed to a triple.
  3. 00:41:665 (2,3) - Awkward to read with the 3 under the reverse slider, consider moving.hmm moved a few things around (in the CW triangle).
  4. 00:41:479 (1,2,3,4,5) - In this part, it seems like you have no idea what you're mapping to. It seems mapped to the vocals and then to the beat. Take a look at this again.leaving it as is. I think this will be fine once I add in sounds--the sounds could help with clarity.
  5. 00:48:746 (1,2,3,4,5) - This doesn't seem to fit the music at all, and seems out of place even if it does.leaving as is. I think the pattern fits here, if other mods bring it up I'll reconsider.
  6. 00:50:237 (7) - NCdone. also removed NC on the note following it.
  7. 00:51:541 (11,12,13,14,15) - Overmapped, I don't think a stream fits at all.leaving as is. I think the pattern fits here, if other mods bring it up I'll reconsider.
  8. 00:52:286 (1,2) - What are these 2 notes even mapped to?leaving as is. I think the pattern fits here, if other mods bring it up I'll reconsider. The beat in the background is kind of quiet but it might work out. You brought up a lot of these triples+pentas that you disliked--when I put them in, I thought it would be useful to bring up the difficulty level since the ending has a lot of penta streams. I'm going to ask around and see what some other people say.
  9. 01:02:907 (1) - Remove NCleaving it since it actually fits the melody, though I agree it might look a little weird because of the stream--I changed this to NC because a modder recommended it.
  10. 01:13:156 (9,10) - Why are these 2 notes so close when there is quite a lot of time between them? It makes it really awkward to time. stacked all 3 on top. I think this should work
  11. 01:13:715 (10) - NCdone
  12. 01:14:833 (1) - Remove NCI think its needed because the beat of the next phrase actually starts at this note, not at (2)
  13. 01:15:205 (2) - NCabove^actually I changed my mind and went ahead and did it. Let's see how this goes--I think it could be ok, meanwhile not doing it will make the pattern right before it look very awk
  14. 01:21:355 (7,8,9) - This doesn't seem to play right but I can't quite put my finger on the issue, I think the 8 should be a slider that finishes where the 9 is currently, but I'm not 100% sure, have a test around with this part.okkkk I changed the positioning..I think it was the distance that's the issue. It's a little better but it still feels a little wrong to me. I'm going to ask around for suggestions.
  15. 01:27:317 (11,12,1) - These 2 notes before the spinner don't make sense, either remove the 2 notes and extend the spinner or delete the spinner and map something there.i think its fine. If not the spinner then I'm bringing in the Upa from <Hard> :3...I'll think of something, and we'll let future modders decide if they like it.

Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps! I can always take a look when this is updated, just let me know if you want me to!

Good luck :D
Thanks for the follow up mod :D
Topic Starter
Intone
beatmap sounds have been updated! :)
Topic Starter
Intone
[Chupalika's Insane] has been finished and uploaded! 8-)
Shyotamaze
Hi, from #modreqs

General
  1. The mp3 sounds bad compared to other ranked mapsets
  2. Combo colours in the highest diff but not in the Insane
  3. The DS and flow in the Insane is weird you should try to make jumps only when necessary like in the highest difficulty
Insane
  1. 00:02:535 (4) - Weird flow
  2. 00:03:280 (1) - Feels a bit random and doesn't really flow well with 00:03:653 (2,3) - you should try to place it somewhere else
  3. 00:05:889 (6,1) - Blanket
  4. 00:06:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Feels a bit random too and kind of hard to aim just after that slider
  5. 00:07:752 (5) - Curve it a bit better
  6. 00:22:845 (7) - Better overlap
  7. 00:48:746 (1,2,3) - Weird spacing
  8. 01:00:299 (4) - Weird flow
Chupalika's Insane
  1. 00:04:026 (1,2,3,4) - Too much squares, it gets hard to aim at this point :(
  2. 00:52:473 (1,2) - Better blanket
  3. 00:55:268 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:58:249 (1,2) - ^
  5. 00:58:994 (3,4) - ^ (omg so nazi)
  6. 01:02:162 (1) - I know why you put that here but it can be pretty confusing to read so maybe you should try something else
The highest diff is pretty nice :)
Good luck!
Chupalika
00:04:026 (1,2,3,4) - Too much squares, it gets hard to aim at this point :(
Well, can't really do anything about this now, and it's okay squares are fun
00:52:473 (1,2) - Better blanket
00:55:268 (1,2) - ^
00:58:249 (1,2) - ^
00:58:994 (3,4) - ^ (omg so nazi)
All of those blankets look fine to me, if you can help me fix them, that'd be cool :)
01:02:162 (1) - I know why you put that here but it can be pretty confusing to read so maybe you should try something else
Actually I was hesitant about this too, but when I asked my friends to testplay, they all played this fine. If I get too many complaints though I'll change it
Topic Starter
Intone

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs

General
  1. The mp3 sounds bad compared to other ranked mapsetsmp3 was changed.
  2. Combo colours in the highest diff but not in the Insane
  3. The DS and flow in the Insane is weird you should try to make jumps only when necessary like in the highest difficulty
Insane
  1. 00:02:535 (4) - Weird flow
  2. 00:03:280 (1) - Feels a bit random and doesn't really flow well with 00:03:653 (2,3) - you should try to place it somewhere else
  3. 00:05:889 (6,1) - Blanket
  4. 00:06:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Feels a bit random too and kind of hard to aim just after that slider
  5. 00:07:752 (5) - Curve it a bit better
  6. 00:22:845 (7) - Better overlap
  7. 00:48:746 (1,2,3) - Weird spacing
  8. 01:00:299 (4) - Weird flow
I decided to basically rewrite <insane> thanks for the mod!
Topic Starter
Intone
[Insane]

Rewrite complete. There are still a few parts of the current remodel that I don't particularly like--will look into them tomorrow.

Circle size changed to 4.

That end slider is more because IDK what to do than anything else haha, will 90% just toss and redo outro.
Topic Starter
Intone
[Normal]

readjusted like, everything. God help me if I ever ever ever have to look at another map that's under 3*. My brain is about to melt.
Kei
  • General
  1. Change the artist name. Use the japanese form instead: いとうかなこ

  2. Some tags are unnecesary. Remove "hacking to the gate stein's gate steins gate". All these words are already on the Source and Song Title. You should add "Chupalika" to tags since he's the one who mapped that guest difficulty. Also, you better remove "best girl" as well since it's kinda off topic. :P

  3. Timing points and audio preview time differ from each difficulty. Fix this!

  4. Why does Chupalika's difficulty have such a weird name? Why not using a standard difficulty name to describe it? or even a creative one. "dvjalekjrsdw" sounds too random.
  • [Chupalika's dvjalekjrsdw]
  1. 00:01:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All this intro sounds loud for me. I suggest you to reduce the hitsound volume a bit.
  2. 00:15:713 (8) - This slider shape is ugly to be honest. Improve the blanket pattern by polishing the curve of this.
  3. 00:17:949 (7,8) - This part flows poorly in my opinion. I suggest you to try something else here. I tried changing it by myself and got this. Maybe you like it. This is just an example though, I think you can come up with something better
  4. 00:19:813 (1) - Sloppy blanket again. Improve this one too. Use grid level 4 for better blankets and sliders.
  5. 00:20:372 (2) - Replace this circle with a slider that ends at 00:20:744? that empty space sounds too monotonous and unfitting. Better keep following the vocals like this.
  6. 00:23:167 (3) - This whistle sounds redundant, so I suggest you to remove it.
  7. 00:23:912 (2) - Same thing here with the hitfinish.
  8. 00:27:080 (7) - Terrible flow here due to this slider curve facing down. Make it go upwards like this so it flows with 00:26:893 (6).
  9. 00:27:639 (8) - And this one like this.
  10. 00:28:757 (1,2,3,4) - Stacks like these don't really fit the music at all and feel awkward to play imo. I suggest you to unstack.
  11. 00:32:297 (3) - Replace with a slider to follow the vocals again?
  12. 00:36:955 (1,2) - This feels forced and doesn't play good imo since 00:37:142 (2) is facing that way. The jump doesn't really fit the music at all neither so I think it'd be nice if you move 00:36:955 (1) to 00:37:142 (2) place and stack it, like you did at 00:48:881 (1,2).
  13. 00:41:427 (3,4,5) - More poor flow :( try to place sliders in a way that their shape follows up the other notes. The only quick solution I can think of for this part is moving (4) and placing it like this.
  14. 00:43:104 (10) - The combo is too long here. To follow the vocals change I suggest you to add NC here and remove the one at 00:43:477 (1).
  15. 00:43:477 (1) - Same problem with curves not following up previous patterns and ruining the flow. This would require a rework if you want to improve the flow since tilting up this slider curve would mess up your entire pattern.
  16. 00:50:372 (3,4) - This spacing irregularity doesn't feel right.
  17. 00:54:844 (9) - NC here and remove NC of 00:55:403 (1) to shorten the combo.
  18. 01:02:297 (1) - This slider is off. Listen carefully to it. It isn't following any sound at all. This stream is fully 1/4, not 1/8.

    This difficulty has plenty of flow issues that can be addressed by reworking. Some parts are too jumpy and feel kinda overdone in my opinion, but the main problem here is the flow.
  • [Insane]
  1. The hitsounds are too loud in this difficulty as well! please consider reducing the volume a bit.
  2. 00:09:378 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - All this intro part is kinda awkward and feels too "boxy" due to so many straight sliders. Consider reworking aesthetically this part.
  3. 00:15:527 (7) - This circle doesn't flow well here. I'd rather place it somewhere around here.
  4. 00:15:713 (8,9,1) - This overlap is very messy, ugly and doesn't feel right ;_; I suggest you to try some other pattern here instead of this.
  5. 00:19:067 (9,10,11) - Same here.
  6. 00:23:353 (4) - I think that square jump patterns play awful. I'd rather place this circle at 00:22:794 (1) place to make the pattern a triangle instead of a square one.
  7. 00:23:726 (1) - Too loud hitfinishes >< remove the first and second hitfinish. Leave only hitfinish at the end of the slider.
  8. 00:25:775 (1) - Stacks like this one break the flow and don't really fit with the music at all so consider unstacking.
  9. 00:29:502 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Too many straight sliders again that don't really flow at all ;___;
  10. 00:37:514 (5) - Ugly slider. Use only 1 point to make it curved, if you use 2 like this it looks ugly.
  11. 00:37:887 (6,7,8,9) - Bad flow again. I'd recommend you to rework this.
  12. 00:59:129 (5) - This slider end is not following any sound. Make it end at 00:59:688 to fix this.

    I'll stop pointing out stuff here. Most of issues are all over the difficulty and you better take a look at it and improve it considering what I said above. :o
  • [Hard]
  1. 00:05:651 (2,3) - This part can flow much better if you rotate 00:05:837 (3) a bit, like this.
  2. 00:08:446 (3,4,5) - I honestly dislike a lot patterns like this one, I'd rework it all, but if you like it that way then the only thing I can think of to improve a bit this is moving 00:08:446 (3) over here for a blanket and slightly better flow.
  3. 00:10:868 (2) - This would flow much better if you change this slider's curve.
  4. 00:13:104 (7,8) - I haaaaate whistles ;__; please don't use them like this. Sounds really loud and unfitting. Remove some or better, use another hitsound instead. I think whistles don't fit this song (this also applies to other diffs in which you also used whistles)
  5. 00:20:372 (5) - Replace this circle with a slider? that empty space again is weird.
  6. 00:21:862 (5,6) - Replace both circles with a single slider? much better in my opinion.
  7. 00:25:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Claps like these sound too loud as well and don't fit at all neither. :cry: I think you should get a custom drum hitsound or else, because claps sound too loud for this song imo. Maybe you can keep claps on the kiai though.
  8. 00:34:254 (8) - This note isn't following anything plus it's very unexpected so I suggest you to remove it.
  9. 00:40:589 (2) - Same here.
  10. 00:41:055 (4,5,6) - Very poor flow here as well. Try this instead?
  11. 00:46:552 (3) - Remove this note as well? there are more triplets and 1/4 notes like this one so remove them by yourself if you agree!
  12. 00:53:167 (5,6) - Replace with a slider?
  13. 01:03:042 (1) - Add hitfinish here to emphasize the chorus.
  14. 01:14:968 (1) - Hitfinish here as well?
  15. 01:25:589 (1) - This slider shouldn't start here. Move it to 01:25:775 so it follows correctly the music.


    Similar problems as Insane difficulty. Please take a look at them considering what I've pointed out and rework patterns with bad flow.

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:01:924 (1) - These claps are too loud and unfitting. Remove them and add a hitfinish at the beginning of this slider instead.
  2. 00:08:633 (2) - Don't stack notes like this in a normal difficulty if possible. This is even worse considering the fact that you don't have an Easy diff in your mapset. You need an Easy difficulty to improve the spread and to avoid reworking this difficulty in order to make it easier.
  3. 00:14:781 (3,4,5) - Too many stacks. Unstack this and rework the pattern. Beginners get easily misleaded by tricky patterns like this one. You made a lot of patterns like this one so I'll just point this one out and leave it all up to you. :)
  4. 00:21:862 (8,9,10) - That empty space after these notes is weird. Try another rhythm that covers up that empty space.

    This difficulty has a lot of stacks, which makes the map look scrambled, play awkward and mislead beginners. You will have to consider reworking this difficulty entirely. I don't think it will be good to keep this difficulty like this. You can stack some circles at times, but you overused it way too much. :(

    _____________

That's all, sorry again for making you wait. :<

Sorry if I sound harsh or if it's too much, I just wanted to help as much as I could. I hope you find my mod useful.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Intone
Thanks for the reply Kei :) Going to be busy with move in for a day or two, I'll reply to you definitely by Monday night!

I'll also let Chupalika know that you modded his map :D
Chupalika
Sorry, this will be a quick run through cause I gotta go somewhere soon, I'll edit and change things as I become free

Kei wrote:

  • General
  1. Why does Chupalika's difficulty have such a weird name? Why not using a standard difficulty name to describe it? or even a creative one. "dvjalekjrsdw" sounds too random.
    Why do you not appreciate my innovative difficulty name? :(
  • [Chupalika's dvjalekjrsdw]
  1. 00:01:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All this intro sounds loud for me. I suggest you to reduce the hitsound volume a bit.
    I mapped this on my laptop and for some reason things sound different than on my desktop, so I didn't notice it. Changed!
  2. 00:15:713 (8) - This slider shape is ugly to be honest. Improve the blanket pattern by polishing the curve of this.
    Okay, I try on all my blankets, if they dissatisfy you, feel free to help me out, cause idk how to improve it :<
  3. 00:17:949 (7,8) - This part flows poorly in my opinion. I suggest you to try something else here. I tried changing it by myself and got this. Maybe you like it. This is just an example though, I think you can come up with something better
    I like it the way it is now, but I will think about this
  4. 00:19:813 (1) - Sloppy blanket again. Improve this one too. Use grid level 4 for better blankets and sliders.
    I USE GRID 4!!!
  5. 00:20:372 (2) - Replace this circle with a slider that ends at 00:20:744? that empty space sounds too monotonous and unfitting. Better keep following the vocals like this.
    I would like to have some empty space in my maps, too many hitsounds in a row especially when it doesn't have to be there feels repetitive to me :(
  6. 00:23:167 (3) - This whistle sounds redundant, so I suggest you to remove it.
    okay
  7. 00:23:912 (2) - Same thing here with the hitfinish.
    okay
  8. 00:27:080 (7) - Terrible flow here due to this slider curve facing down. Make it go upwards like this so it flows with 00:26:893 (6).
  9. 00:27:639 (8) - And this one like this.
    When I play this part in both situations, I actually like it the way it is now, sorry D:
  10. 00:28:757 (1,2,3,4) - Stacks like these don't really fit the music at all and feel awkward to play imo. I suggest you to unstack.
    Will think about this
  11. 00:32:297 (3) - Replace with a slider to follow the vocals again?
    nah
  12. 00:36:955 (1,2) - This feels forced and doesn't play good imo since 00:37:142 (2) is facing that way. The jump doesn't really fit the music at all neither so I think it'd be nice if you move 00:36:955 (1) to 00:37:142 (2) place and stack it, like you did at 00:48:881 (1,2).
    not forced, and it fits the music!?!?
  13. 00:41:427 (3,4,5) - More poor flow :( try to place sliders in a way that their shape follows up the other notes. The only quick solution I can think of for this part is moving (4) and placing it like this.
    Seems fine to me, but will think about it
  14. 00:43:104 (10) - The combo is too long here. To follow the vocals change I suggest you to add NC here and remove the one at 00:43:477 (1).
    I NCed the 6
  15. 00:43:477 (1) - Same problem with curves not following up previous patterns and ruining the flow. This would require a rework if you want to improve the flow since tilting up this slider curve would mess up your entire pattern.
    Same response :P
  16. 00:50:372 (3,4) - This spacing irregularity doesn't feel right.
    I'm not sure what to do here yet, but thanks for pointing it out
  17. 00:54:844 (9) - NC here and remove NC of 00:55:403 (1) to shorten the combo.
    NCed the 6
  18. 01:02:297 (1) - This slider is off. Listen carefully to it. It isn't following any sound at all. This stream is fully 1/4, not 1/8.
    plssss, no you listen carefully :<

    This difficulty has plenty of flow issues that can be addressed by reworking. Some parts are too jumpy and feel kinda overdone in my opinion, but the main problem here is the flow.

    So about the flow: I like good flows like the ones you suggested and I try to incorporate them around my maps. But the thing is I would also like some unconventional flow that is still easy to read and play, makes the map more interesting. So, around the map I kinda choose if I want a smooth flow or angle change or whatever. I testplay and decide on whichever one is more fun :)

    So as I said, I'm in a rush, I'll take a look at some of the flow suggestions later, I just fixed some minor things for now and rejected some stuff I feel strongly about.
    And sorry if you don't like fun jumps, many other people do, including me!
Poi Panda
Hi! :D

General
  1. Make the preview time consistent on each difficulty.
  2. Make the tags consistent on each difficulty.

Normal
  1. 00:07:887 (1,2,1,2) - The reverse sliders under the end of the 1's seem to play really awkwardly to me, plus this is a normal diff so don't overmap, consider changing.
  2. 00:11:986 (4) - Move to (300,316) to fit the linear flow, or change the notes before it to be less linear.
  3. 00:15:154 (5,6) - Make the 5 a reverse slider that reverses at 00:15:341 and making 6 a full slider to 00:16:086. I feel this fits better.
  4. 00:17:949 (5) - This is too long, I would recommend making it a reverse slider that reverses at 00:18:322
  5. 00:20:931 (5) - NC
  6. 00:22:794 - Add a note here.
  7. 00:34:720 - Add a note here.
  8. 00:39:192 - Add a note here and NC it.
  9. 00:41:987 (3) - This slider should start at 00:42:173 and add a note where the slider currently is.
  10. 00:48:136 - Add a note here.
  11. 00:49:254 (3) - This slider completely breaks the flow but I can't put my finger on how.
  12. 00:55:030 (1,2) - The spacing here plays awkwardly.
    Overall I would recommend changing this diff, the stacked notes/sliders play really awkwardly in general. Also I would slightly decrease the AR.

Hard
  1. 00:36:396 (6) - NC and space slightly further from the 5
  2. 00:50:931 (6,7,8) - I don't think the note between the sliders is necessary.
  3. 00:53:167 (5,6) - I feel a note is necessary on the white tick between these.
  4. 01:25:216 (1,2,1) - Something is wrong here but I don't know what, take a look at it.

Insane
  1. 00:18:695 (8) - NC
  2. 00:36:024 (4,1,2) - This plays awkwardly because the 4 ends on the big white tick I think, see if you can change it to play better.
  3. 00:59:129 (5) - End this at 00:59:688
  4. 01:25:589 (7) - Weird slider, maybe change.
    This difficulty is really badly spaced, it feels like the distance for the same time between the notes increases and decreases all the time, may just be a personal issue though.

Chuplika's dvjalekjrsdw

  • I don't think I can find anything wrong with this difficulty.
    Please change the difficulty name. It's too random and not creative at all.

Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps!

Good luck :D
Topic Starter
Intone

PoisonPanda wrote:

Hi! :D

General
  1. Make the preview time consistent on each difficulty.
  2. Make the tags consistent on each difficulty.

Normal
  1. 00:07:887 (1,2,1,2) - The reverse sliders under the end of the 1's seem to play really awkwardly to me, plus this is a normal diff so don't overmap, consider changing.
  2. 00:11:986 (4) - Move to (300,316) to fit the linear flow, or change the notes before it to be less linear.
  3. 00:15:154 (5,6) - Make the 5 a reverse slider that reverses at 00:15:341 and making 6 a full slider to 00:16:086. I feel this fits better.
  4. 00:17:949 (5) - This is too long, I would recommend making it a reverse slider that reverses at 00:18:322
  5. 00:20:931 (5) - NC
  6. 00:22:794 - Add a note here.
  7. 00:34:720 - Add a note here.
  8. 00:39:192 - Add a note here and NC it.
  9. 00:41:987 (3) - This slider should start at 00:42:173 and add a note where the slider currently is.
  10. 00:48:136 - Add a note here.
  11. 00:49:254 (3) - This slider completely breaks the flow but I can't put my finger on how.
  12. 00:55:030 (1,2) - The spacing here plays awkwardly.
    Overall I would recommend changing this diff, the stacked notes/sliders play really awkwardly in general. Also I would slightly decrease the AR.

Hard
  1. 00:36:396 (6) - NC and space slightly further from the 5
  2. 00:50:931 (6,7,8) - I don't think the note between the sliders is necessary.
  3. 00:53:167 (5,6) - I feel a note is necessary on the white tick between these.
  4. 01:25:216 (1,2,1) - Something is wrong here but I don't know what, take a look at it.

Insane
  1. 00:18:695 (8) - NC
  2. 00:36:024 (4,1,2) - This plays awkwardly because the 4 ends on the big white tick I think, see if you can change it to play better.
  3. 00:59:129 (5) - End this at 00:59:688
  4. 01:25:589 (7) - Weird slider, maybe change.
    This difficulty is really badly spaced, it feels like the distance for the same time between the notes increases and decreases all the time, may just be a personal issue though.

Chuplika's dvjalekjrsdw

  • I don't think I can find anything wrong with this difficulty.
    Please change the difficulty name. It's too random and not creative at all.

Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps!

Good luck :D
Thanks for the mod :D and your dedicated following of this mapset :O

Map is on hold for maybe a monthish. I think insane needs *another* complete remap...
Also school started again and blade+soul is out so i've been busy with that XD
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