Shiirn wrote:

Yes.

Shiirn wrote:

We're sitting here talking about it instead of your map being ranked.

Mysterious Ryan wrote:

Never really posted on the forums but just wanted to say That I'm sorry to hear the Map didn't meet the criteria.
I've been playing this map for quite a while even before it hit qualified status and I hope to see it ranked soon one day ♥

havkz wrote:

Almost 1000 favorites even before the map has been ranked, damn

havkz wrote:

Almost 1000 favorites even before the map has been ranked, damn

genderdoom wrote:

havkz wrote:

Almost 1000 favorites even before the map has been ranked, damn

it was ranked a week ago.

RIP

-Haru Sempai wrote:

best map, WAIT FOR RANKING

genderdoom wrote:

havkz wrote:

Almost 1000 favorites even before the map has been ranked, damn

it was ranked a week ago.

RIP

InternalLight wrote:

couldnt you read that it was temporary qualified?

Dovydas wrote:

this map needs to be ranked, especially the last difficulty, gl.

Dovydas wrote:

this map needs to be ranked, especially the last difficulty, gl.

Bara- wrote:

Dovydas wrote:

this map needs to be ranked, especially the last difficulty, gl.

It's one step closer now ^_^

2016-07-01 18:17 Chaoslitz: can you just tell what you have changed :v
2016-07-01 18:17 Fort: okay
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: im glad i put bookmark on 01:05:454
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: 01:05:454 -
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: i change parts there
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: until 01:13:091 -
2016-07-01 18:18 Chaoslitz: you did fix the highest diff only?
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: yep
2016-07-01 18:18 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: 03:16:364 - add notes to 03:25:091 -
2016-07-01 18:19 Chaoslitz: the hp is increased? 
2016-07-01 18:19 Fort: yup
2016-07-01 18:19 Fort: to 6
2016-07-01 18:20 Fort: i can pass with 83% acc
2016-07-01 18:20 Chaoslitz: let me try
2016-07-01 18:20 Fort: but drain not too brutal
2016-07-01 18:20 Chaoslitz: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/838211 Panda Eyes & Teminite - Immortal Flame (feat. Anna Yvette) [Everlasting Memory]]
2016-07-01 18:23 Fort: oh and yeah i fix some square pattern
2016-07-01 18:25 Chaoslitz: well actually i am worried that
2016-07-01 18:25 Fort: 02:06:545 -
2016-07-01 18:25 Fort: to 02:15:273 -
2016-07-01 18:25 Chaoslitz: if it is better to apply 03:16:364 - in all diffs
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: that just a 1/2 melody
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: like this
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: 01:36:383 -
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: in Highscore
2016-07-01 18:27 Fort: (and it's a preview time) lol
2016-07-01 18:27 Chaoslitz: but then you only fixed a diff .-.
2016-07-01 18:27 Chaoslitz: yea apply to all should be more safe
2016-07-01 18:28 Fort: lemme being a cool dude lol
2016-07-01 18:28 Chaoslitz: :<
2016-07-01 18:29 Fort: http://puu.sh/pMtOT/34b43a7a2a.png
2016-07-01 18:29 Chaoslitz: he didnt mention a specific diff lol
2016-07-01 18:29 Fort: he didn;t hear 1/2 melody there
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: and he said it is intense
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: what
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: im sure it's almost same like 03:25:091 --
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: ye i know
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: and im sure i map for melody on 03:33:818 -
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: i think he means
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: i think the 03:16:364 - is deserving for break time
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: you only mapped half of it from 03:16:364 to 03:33:818 - :/
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: and people doesn't have complain with that
2016-07-01 18:32 Fort: well at first time i was thinking about putting that break for last break until the end
2016-07-01 18:32 Chaoslitz: it is just weird if you only fixing one diff
2016-07-01 18:33 Chaoslitz: like it is more like to be a general issue :<
2016-07-01 18:33 Fort: well i put full drain for this diff
2016-07-01 18:34 Fort: but looks yeah, i'll fix for Extra and insane maybe cuz it's my diff
2016-07-01 18:35 Fort: well i don't see much problems for this break time are unrankable so yeah im kinda dissapointed about that one
2016-07-01 18:35 Chaoslitz: should be fine if you helping fixing rest of the diffs
2016-07-01 18:35 Chaoslitz: urhh i just want to prevent another dq :<
2016-07-01 18:36 Fort: dq because break time is a meme at all lmao, but yeah looks im gonna finish it in several minutes for 1/2 pattern
2016-07-01 18:36 Fort: so it needs rebuble?
2016-07-01 18:36 Chaoslitz: i dont think so
2016-07-01 18:37 Fort: oh okay then
2016-07-01 19:15 Fort: okay done
2016-07-01 19:15 Chaoslitz: ok owo
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: update?
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: ok updating
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: wati
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: ahh
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: .-.
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: ah
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: almost
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: :<
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: didn't updated yet
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/838211 Panda Eyes & Teminite - Immortal Flame (feat. Anna Yvette) [Everlasting Memory]]
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: 02:11:454 (1,2,3,4) - 
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: i think the spacing difference is too big
2016-07-01 19:18 Fort: how about this? http://puu.sh/pMvGI/c269af122e.jpg
2016-07-01 19:18 Chaoslitz: ye
2016-07-01 19:18 Chaoslitz: nice
2016-07-01 19:19 Fort: k done
2016-07-01 19:19 Chaoslitz: one more thing
2016-07-01 19:20 Chaoslitz: i dont think you need too many notes? 01:03:954 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3)  
2016-07-01 19:20 Chaoslitz: the pitch is lower in here >_>
2016-07-01 19:21 Fort: it is same like 01:11:591 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ?
2016-07-01 19:21 Chaoslitz: it has a higher pitch
2016-07-01 19:22 Fort: maybe i can nerf this 01:04:500 (2,4) -
2016-07-01 19:22 Fort: http://puu.sh/pMvPi/e1fa414469.jpg
2016-07-01 19:22 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-07-01 19:24 Fort: okay fixed
2016-07-01 19:24 Chaoslitz: ok update :3
2016-07-01 19:26 Fort: updated
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: need fixes?
2016-07-01 19:34 Chaoslitz: should be fine to qualify i think? :3
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: haha cool
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: but yeah i will be miss that last break part
2016-07-01 19:35 Fort: ;-;
2016-07-01 19:35 Chaoslitz: ;-;

1. Remove the break after kiai part
2. Increased to HP6 for Everlasting Memory and nerfed a pattern 01:04:364 (1,2,3,4,5)

Chaoslitz wrote:

log

2016-07-01 18:17 Chaoslitz: can you just tell what you have changed :v
2016-07-01 18:17 Fort: okay
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: im glad i put bookmark on 01:05:454
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: 01:05:454 -
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: i change parts there
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: until 01:13:091 -
2016-07-01 18:18 Chaoslitz: you did fix the highest diff only?
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: yep
2016-07-01 18:18 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-07-01 18:18 Fort: 03:16:364 - add notes to 03:25:091 -
2016-07-01 18:19 Chaoslitz: the hp is increased? 
2016-07-01 18:19 Fort: yup
2016-07-01 18:19 Fort: to 6
2016-07-01 18:20 Fort: i can pass with 83% acc
2016-07-01 18:20 Chaoslitz: let me try
2016-07-01 18:20 Fort: but drain not too brutal
2016-07-01 18:20 Chaoslitz: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/838211 Panda Eyes & Teminite - Immortal Flame (feat. Anna Yvette) [Everlasting Memory]]
2016-07-01 18:23 Fort: oh and yeah i fix some square pattern
2016-07-01 18:25 Chaoslitz: well actually i am worried that
2016-07-01 18:25 Fort: 02:06:545 -
2016-07-01 18:25 Fort: to 02:15:273 -
2016-07-01 18:25 Chaoslitz: if it is better to apply 03:16:364 - in all diffs
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: that just a 1/2 melody
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: like this
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: 01:36:383 -
2016-07-01 18:26 Fort: in Highscore
2016-07-01 18:27 Fort: (and it's a preview time) lol
2016-07-01 18:27 Chaoslitz: but then you only fixed a diff .-.
2016-07-01 18:27 Chaoslitz: yea apply to all should be more safe
2016-07-01 18:28 Fort: lemme being a cool dude lol
2016-07-01 18:28 Chaoslitz: :<
2016-07-01 18:29 Fort: http://puu.sh/pMtOT/34b43a7a2a.png
2016-07-01 18:29 Chaoslitz: he didnt mention a specific diff lol
2016-07-01 18:29 Fort: he didn;t hear 1/2 melody there
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: and he said it is intense
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: what
2016-07-01 18:30 Fort: im sure it's almost same like 03:25:091 --
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: ye i know
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: and im sure i map for melody on 03:33:818 -
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: i think he means
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: i think the 03:16:364 - is deserving for break time
2016-07-01 18:31 Chaoslitz: you only mapped half of it from 03:16:364 to 03:33:818 - :/
2016-07-01 18:31 Fort: and people doesn't have complain with that
2016-07-01 18:32 Fort: well at first time i was thinking about putting that break for last break until the end
2016-07-01 18:32 Chaoslitz: it is just weird if you only fixing one diff
2016-07-01 18:33 Chaoslitz: like it is more like to be a general issue :<
2016-07-01 18:33 Fort: well i put full drain for this diff
2016-07-01 18:34 Fort: but looks yeah, i'll fix for Extra and insane maybe cuz it's my diff
2016-07-01 18:35 Fort: well i don't see much problems for this break time are unrankable so yeah im kinda dissapointed about that one
2016-07-01 18:35 Chaoslitz: should be fine if you helping fixing rest of the diffs
2016-07-01 18:35 Chaoslitz: urhh i just want to prevent another dq :<
2016-07-01 18:36 Fort: dq because break time is a meme at all lmao, but yeah looks im gonna finish it in several minutes for 1/2 pattern
2016-07-01 18:36 Fort: so it needs rebuble?
2016-07-01 18:36 Chaoslitz: i dont think so
2016-07-01 18:37 Fort: oh okay then
2016-07-01 19:15 Fort: okay done
2016-07-01 19:15 Chaoslitz: ok owo
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: update?
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: ok updating
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: wati
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: ahh
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: .-.
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: ah
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: almost
2016-07-01 19:16 Chaoslitz: :<
2016-07-01 19:16 Fort: didn't updated yet
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/838211 Panda Eyes & Teminite - Immortal Flame (feat. Anna Yvette) [Everlasting Memory]]
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: 02:11:454 (1,2,3,4) - 
2016-07-01 19:17 Chaoslitz: i think the spacing difference is too big
2016-07-01 19:18 Fort: how about this? http://puu.sh/pMvGI/c269af122e.jpg
2016-07-01 19:18 Chaoslitz: ye
2016-07-01 19:18 Chaoslitz: nice
2016-07-01 19:19 Fort: k done
2016-07-01 19:19 Chaoslitz: one more thing
2016-07-01 19:20 Chaoslitz: i dont think you need too many notes? 01:03:954 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3)  
2016-07-01 19:20 Chaoslitz: the pitch is lower in here >_>
2016-07-01 19:21 Fort: it is same like 01:11:591 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ?
2016-07-01 19:21 Chaoslitz: it has a higher pitch
2016-07-01 19:22 Fort: maybe i can nerf this 01:04:500 (2,4) -
2016-07-01 19:22 Fort: http://puu.sh/pMvPi/e1fa414469.jpg
2016-07-01 19:22 Chaoslitz: ok
2016-07-01 19:24 Fort: okay fixed
2016-07-01 19:24 Chaoslitz: ok update :3
2016-07-01 19:26 Fort: updated
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: need fixes?
2016-07-01 19:34 Chaoslitz: should be fine to qualify i think? :3
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: haha cool
2016-07-01 19:34 Fort: but yeah i will be miss that last break part
2016-07-01 19:35 Fort: ;-;
2016-07-01 19:35 Chaoslitz: ;-;

1. Remove the break after kiai part
2. Increased to HP6 for Everlasting Memory and nerfed a pattern 01:04:364 (1,2,3,4,5)

Qualified

Shiirn wrote:

It's certainly not as intense, but going from the hardest part of the map to the easiest just because the main rhythm changes from occasionally dipping into 1/4 into a non-consistent 1/2 pattern is completely bonkers. The background 1/4 rolling is still going exactly the same from the kiai, which is used quite extensively to have high spacing and energetic movements during the chorus even when the main beat isn't in 1/4. Completely ignoring the fact that every other layer is the same as it was before is just lazy mapping.

Note that I fully approve of having an easier section between the kiai and the second kiai that isn't even a kiai but it's not as energetic as the chorus so whatever don't kiai it, my problem is that it's too easy. It's almost as if you were told "this can't be a break because stuff actually happens" and just to spite modders some random notes were lazily shat out in an hour. At least your diff follows the 1/2 rhythm accurately, Aleycks, the rest of your map aside. Fort's is literally a random 3* 1/2 interlude.



tl;dr yeah you mapped it as requested but fort's results are insulting

Yuii- wrote:

Learn how to be a good mapper instead of making shit stuff.

Wosh, I should learn to do that, damn, mapping in osssss is so hard!

Shiirn wrote:

I never implied that the map should be DQ'd due to the crazy 03:01:909 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - jumps. They're whatever. Mapper spirit, etc etc.

Maybe if you could read my post, I was explaining how the section after the kiai doesn't even follow the rhythm that you're supposedly mapping to make it so much easier than the kiai before it and the chorus after it. Maybe some 1/4 will be nice, but largely you should be having actual rhythms with actual sliders starting on red ticks to fit the rhythm. Because you do that in the rest of the map - you follow the rhythm quite well, spacing aside - and it's incredibly weird that you suddenly abandon it for a section you were "forced" to map. Hence why I said it's "insulting" - you're only hurting yourself when you intentionally don't put your full effort into your maps.

I'm not actively trying to DQ this map, I'm just complaining and if there are enough complaints it will get DQ'd, but you have an army of fans who know fuck all about mapping and due to recent changes in the ranking system, suddenly their opinions are more valuable than actual mapper's.

Shiirn wrote:

Let's keep the personal insults to a minimum.


Fort is a talented mapper who only hurts himself by not putting his full effort into his maps anymore. He's tempted by laziness and addicted to the praise of random players who know absolutely nothing about this game or about mapping. That has no relevance to his actual mapping abilities, which are generally quite good when he's not trying to do something stupid.


It's largely irrelevant to consider "most popular maps" as "best maps" - the PP system saw to that. Bigger numbers with less effort = more popularity, and nobody embodies this rule quite as effectively as Fort.

Fort wrote:

you should learn how to being good mapper instead of making the map is shitty