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Franz Liszt - La Campanella (8 Bit Remix)

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Bekko
Finally! someone made a beatmap with this awesome song!!!

YUS
Intone
Hello Mod4Mod! *Modding Complete*


Going to start with the highest difficulty. It seems your maps don't have a kiai time, I'll recommend 04:06:406!

Grand Etude
hmm I won't be able to test out how this plays out since I cannot play 7* maps. However I did try it out on half speed.
I noticed that notes that are overlapping are actually a little bit off everytime. On one hand it looks pretty, on one hand, somewhat messy. I would personally fully overlap everything, since there isn't really a *big* pattern you're trying to create here--there isn't really a purpose for the slightly off overlap--just fully overlap. It will enhance the play a lot I believe.

I recommend you make this AR 10.

00:16:908 (5) I'd recommend distance snapping these patterns. Do this for the other ones as well, this one just really jumped out to me.While La Campanella's piano piece is indeed like 1 whole note under every jump, doing that on Osu will cause confusion I think, since we don't really have a musicalnote:spacing dimension (I can explain what I mean if you don't understand! Just lmk).

00:19:008 (1,2) Consider making this a slider. I think it will play better.

OK As I'm looking at it further, I am kind of understanding what creative pattern you're trying to go for here (I think you're trying to imitate how the piano piece plays on the piano <WHICH IS SUPER COOL 8-) > but this ONLY works if you overlap the notes. Thinking back to what I said about 00:16:908 <NOTE> I think something like this would be OK if and ONLY if you overlap the notes instead of slightly overlap. Please consider :O Otherwise, jumps may feel awkward. You should do it anyway though.

02:15:155 streams sound off. Please recheck offset! Here are some specific examples: 02:13:308 (1,2,3,4,5); little bits of the stream following that (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) are off and on beat; this pattern repeats itself so there are probably other ones throughout the map.
OKKKKK about the streams: we discussed it in game, you said that 03:02:808 "there goes off 2 ms off". I changed beat snap divisor to 1/16 and remapped 02:13:308 (1,2,3,4,5). These now sound correct to me. I have linked my edit in the comment below this one--take a look and I'm sure you can figure it out!

02:57:408 don't let these (1) touch. Do what you did at 02:55:008

Just an idea, name Fabulous->Presto, Tough->Allegro, Average->Andante, Soft->Adagio 8-) 8-) 8-)

Fabulous
00:01:308 (1,2,3) put these on the upper right. like in the x: 4xx, y:6xx area. Will look better I think. Repeat for the other ones following this pattern.

00:17:208 (5) consider adding 2 notes before this--make this a triple slur. Follow the music for other examples of where to do this. I think you might be considering overmapping, but I don't think it will be overmapped--I think it will play better because it will follow the music.

00:22:608 (1) these too, same thing^

02:10:008 OMG THESE SLIDER SLOLOLOL. Consider making them into treble clefs, bass clefs, notes, etc!!!

02:30:910 this break is really annoying. If there's a break, consider the music there. The music here is really "ninny (?)" and not so much enjoyable to listen to for the whole duration, so I definitely think you should put something in this breka. Even if its jjust like 3 repeat sliders forming trills, it will be better than sitting there for a while listening to it.

04:02:917 (1,2,3). Try to go slightly higher everytime you go onto the next (1). This will follow phrasing better than a straight up pattern. Or maybe make it loop around like in freedom dive.

Tough
00:24:258 I think this jump is much too difficult for 3 star players. Consider making it overlap.
00:54:558 (2) this as well^
01:21:869 (2) ^
the break: same thing as the other difficulties.
02:57:408 (1,2,3) hmmm I think this is too difficult as well. Consider overlapping. It's a shame because it looks really nice, but for the intended audience of this map, it is definitely too hard.
In general: same thing as I stated all above^ check some of the difficulty parts. Random parts of it are too hard I believe. Overlap instead. I'll just list sections in the music where I see this happening: 03:11:366 scheme.

Average
01:22:450 (2) NC
01:29:363 (4) NC
01:36:408 (3) nc
01:36:008 (4) consider nc
02:08:508 (5) NC. remove NC on the 1 following it. The phrase actually starts on this note, not the one after.
03:16:006 (1) remove NC. this is part of the phrase.

Soft
incomplete, but the beginning works! XD
Patterns that repeat should also be changed if you decided to change something that I noted above--I didn't write out every single exact section where the issue is, just each pattern type that I see the issue, so wherever else you have the same pattern, change it there as well.


Awesome map idea, I definitely love it. In general, I think some parts of the Fabulous/GrandEtude are confusing (if you overlap, this might solve the problem). Double check the streams in GrandEtude. Tough has some parts that are too hard, overlapping could help.
Intone
Grand Etude edit
osu file format v14
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Alheak
Hi, M4M

[General]
  1. uncheck widescreen support
[Average]
  1. try to be careful with small overlaps like 00:04:908 (2,2) - , i'll try to report most of them but it never hurts to double-check yourself
  2. I am not sure if I understand your reasoning here for NCs, sometimes you use them to differenciate patterns like 00:36:708 (1,1,2,3) - or 00:10:008 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - , and sometimes not, like 00:07:308 (1,2,1) - or 00:40:308 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
    Be sure to be consistent here, either place a NC every two measures, or one for each pattern, or anything that follows some kind of logic i'd say
  3. 00:09:108 (1) - remove NC
  4. 00:10:908 (2,1) - small overlap
  5. 00:11:808 (3,3) - ^
  6. 00:13:608 (3,2) - you could do a blanket with those
  7. 03:26:806 (3) - I suggest placing it on x:377 y:117 so it's easier to see for the player
[Tough]
  1. 00:34:308 (1) - while original and well thought, I am pretty sure it is unfortunately unrankable: << Every slider must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end >>
  2. 00:52:608 (1) - 00:56:208 (1) - I don't think they look good, it seems like something happened to them but i am not sure what
  3. 01:40:008 (1,2,3,1) - avoid the overlap by placing those objects like this:
  4. 02:09:708 (4) - like earlier, it probably is unrankable: << Slider anchors/nodes must not be used to manipulate slider speeds >>
  5. 02:13:308 (1) - ^
  6. 02:17:508 (3) - what about placing it at x:256 y263
  7. 02:38:058 (2) - why not stack it under 02:37:458 (1) - ?
[Fabulous]
  1. like Average, I don't think most of those NCs are justified, try to change some of them
  2. 00:25:008 (3,1) - place them so (3)'s end fits perfectly on top of (1)'s body
  3. 00:25:908 (3,1) - ^
  4. 00:31:308 (3,1) - ^
  5. 01:19:908 (3,1) - ^
  6. 01:21:708 (3,1) - ^
  7. 01:55:608 (5,6) - ^
  8. 02:48:258 (1,2) - i don't think this reduced DS is justified here, either stack or use the same as before
  9. 03:48:406 (1) - try to prevent it from overlaping itself
  10. 03:58:306 (1,1) - like earlier with the slider end and body
  11. 04:18:106 (1,2,3) - stack on top of 04:17:506 (5) -
[Grand Etude]
  1. The correct way to write this diff's name would be "Grande Etude", with the "e" at the end of "grand". "Etude" is a feminine noun so you have to make the adjective "grand" agree accordingly
  2. 03:54:106 (1,2,3,4) - why not doubles like the others?
  3. 03:55:906 (3,4) - this should be on a new stack for consistency
quite refreshing to see this kind of style again, good luck!
Bonsai
E X C E L L E N T


Hiya, from #modreqs :D

Grand Etude
  1. as mentioned ^ 'Grande Étude' would probably be better
  2. The thing with this soft-finish is that it's 'pulsating' in intervals of about 340ms while 1/1 at 200bpm is 300ms which causes the second 'pulse' to be quite close to the music and sound off, dunno if anyone else notices that but I'd kinda prefer if it didn't pulsate : \ can be ignored I guess ^^
  3. 00:13:158 (1,2,3) - Uh (1,2) are the same tone while (2,3) are octaves so I don't really understand the stack here, and I'd also space 00:13:008 (3,1) more
  4. 00:26:958 (6,7,8,1) - In afaik all of the other patterns like this in the diff you consistently change pattern on the downbeat, not changing at (7) and instead at (1) feels very random as it is the same musical pattern until 00:27:708 (3)
  5. 00:42:408 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:43:308 (1,2,3,4,1) - Those are definitely not straight lines lol
  6. 01:01:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,) - In the music and with your combos 01:01:908 (1,2) is standing out from the previous combo, but that isn't emphasized in gameplay at all since all of this plays just like one (very ugly) circle, there's no real change of direction or anything - How about somethingthis?
  7. 01:04:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - I really miss a jump at between 01:04:458 (4,5) and 01:04:758 (6,1) while I don't really understand the jump between 01:04:908 (1,2) as that's basically the same as 01:04:008 (1,2)
  8. 01:20:058 (6,2,4,6,2,4,6) - I don't really understand why they are spaced so unevenly, 01:20:958 (6) being above 01:20:658 (4) -, you didn't do that before
  9. 01:28:908 (1,2,3,4) - Is it that uneven on purpose? If so, why? It's four times the same tone, so I'd increase (1,2,3) to the same as the following ones, 01:35:808 (1,2,3,4) is spaced evenly too
  10. 01:48:108 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) and all similar sections are extreemely hard to play - If I weren't very bad at streaming I could probably do pretty good on this map, but I asked a #600 for a testplay on this and they could do almost none of these extreme clickable-1/4s-jumps. iirc there are no other clickable 1/4-jumps than in these sections in the whole map, you generally emphasized notes by making the previous note a slider and then jump, like starting from 01:28:908 you made the jumps between for example 01:29:408 and 01:29:508 easy by mapping a slider before the jump, not a circle, and furthermore it's only 1/3. These sections are 1/4 and the hardest parts in the whole map for no apparent reason
  11. 01:59:358 (2,3) - This is way harder than the equivalent patterns, consider ctrl-g'ing (2) so there's no unnecessary sliderbreaks here
  12. 02:11:448 (15,16) - Those two very special notes in the song get zero emphasis at all and it's rather counter-intuitive to play one more note at the end, how about making these a slider? That would help playability and emphasis
  13. You should definitely ask someone competent about the timing of these streams starting from 02:09:708 because the timing is obviously inconstant and I'm pretty sure it's not formally correct to make some of those 250bpm, dunno if those can snap to something else - While I'm very good at timing I have no clue or experience how this problem is best solve, so please ask someone! There's one more note in the song than there are mapped between 02:15:408 and 02:16:008, and even two more notes between 02:17:208 and 02:17:808
  14. 02:17:748 (10,1) - Oh ok here's another 1/4-jump, I highly suggest making 02:17:688 (9,10) a slider too (like all the previous times) or just not making a jump there, it doesn't fit to the rest of the difficulty at all imo
  15. 02:39:558 (2,1) - This is also unreasonably high spaced compared to all the others here
  16. 02:43:608 (6,6,6,6) - Since the rhythm is really hard to predict maybe raise the SV for these sliders a bit so it's more clear that they are not 1/4s?
  17. 03:16:006 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't understand why you didn't choose the downbeats as turning-points - What you might've went for is that notes like 03:16:456 (4,1,2) are going down instead of up, but imo that does in no way justify ignoring the downbeats as they even have the low notes from the left hand, doesn't feel good at all
  18. 03:19:906 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I know pentagon-pattern but maybe you could find a way to resemble that in 03:20:506 (1,2,1,2) there is no change of pitch? (same for the following equivalent patterns ofc)
  19. 03:29:506 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This still being stacked despite not being pairs in the song feels off, you didn't stack 03:33:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) either so that's also inconsistent. Also, about this whole chain from here until 03:39:406 -: You always set the downbeat as turning-point, so like 03:34:756 (6,1,2) - 03:35:656 (6,1,2) - 03:36:556 (6,1,2) - 03:37:456 (6,1,2) - 03:38:356 (6,1,2) -, but the only exception is the very first time at 03:33:856 (6,1,2) where it's one note earlier, I don't see the reason for that. Both ways are fine, but they shouldn't be mixed up like that imo
  20. 03:43:306 (1,2,1,2,1) - Since the last (1) is exactly the same as the first two (1)s I don't see why it's not at (430|132) anymore to follow the pattern.
  21. You should stack 03:52:006 (1,2,3,4) since you stacked all the other same-pitch-notes at 03:54:106 (1,2,3,4) - 03:55:606 (1,2,3,4) - 03:58:306 (1,2,3,4) - 03:59:206 (1,2,3,4) and 04:00:106 (1,2,3,4)
  22. 04:06:406 - It's really weird that you don't NC according to the time signature from here on, feels very unmusical, and putting the downbeat on a slidertail at 04:10:606 (1) and 04:14:206 (1) feels just as bad, and you didn't do it anywhere else, especially 04:07:006 (3,4) so that seems really random
  23. 04:23:506 (2) - Why not NC?
  24. 04:24:406 (1) - The sound actually ends one 1/8 earlier at 04:26:018
phew, I wanted to mod the whole set but this took quite a lot of time already, sorry :c This diff is really great though, I really love it (except for those diff-spikes x.x) and except for these things I'm impressed how well you put this style off :D Good luck!

I totally forgot that you even offered m4m, if you want you could have a look at Easy and Hard of this small set, but you don't have to at all since you probably have a lot of mods to do now, I would've modded this without M4M anways ^^
VelperK
nice to see you again, louis
Grrum
Hi. Here from my queue. Hope this helps!

[General]

For the spread of the mapset, the gap in the difficulty between Tough and Fabulous is very questionable. I'm no BN, but I don't approve of this.

[Fabulous]

00:13:158 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) – This section is quite intense and I don't think it should be this intense. The spacing is a tad high. I think you should let the increased rhythm be the bigger focus of the intensity, so consider scaling down the spacing a bit. But I think I could get behind this if you deleted 00:13:308 (6) – and make (5) a ½ slider. Starting the ½ rhythm on (1) does a lot better job explaining the increase in intensity to the player by putting the focus on the melody as the melody starts to take over.

01:50:808 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – Try spacing this out more. I tried using .40x spacing, but that seemed a little high, so try .30x spacing. The idea is that the bigger spacing will make it more clear that this is ½ rhythm and not ¼ rhythm. Even though the current spacing preserves time-distance equality, the actual difference in spacing between ½ and ¼ isn't the most noticeable, so really forcing the player to consider them as different with the notably different spacing will make your intention come off clearer.
01:46:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – Apply here as well.
01:54:258 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – and anywhere else

02:53:508 (3,1) – Why did you abandon the stream introduction for these notes? Currently, it doesn't make sense for you to give the player a taste of this flavor of rhythm at 02:50:808 (1,2,3,4,5) - and then deny them of it. Either get rid of the ¼ rhythm at 02:50:808 (1,2,3,4,5) –, etc or commit to it by making 02:53:508 (3,1) – , etc into the same ¼ type rhythm.

03:01:008 (1,1) – I'm not a fan of this SV change (or high SV's in general). The rhythm is going with the harmony, so it's hard to pay attention to the pitch change in the melody. At the very least get more opinions on this.

03:16:306 (3) – This long slider doesn't feel nice since it skips the note at 03:16:606 - . Try this rhythm with a jump into 03:16:906 (1) - : http://puu.sh/r9Nxu/eee66a267b.jpg
03:17:206 (3) – etc

03:32:506 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 03:33:706 (5,6) – Consider deleting each (6) circle and making each (5) circle into a ½ slider. Currently, the pattern has drained a lot of stamina that 03:36:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – etc can feel pretty intense despite not feeling all that intense in the music. Allowing sliders to act as moments of rest might be able to alleviate this issue as well as provide relative emphasis to important downbeats/notes like 03:34:906 (1) -

03:44:806 (2) – You've set up a strong repetition before this, and it's hard for me not to follow the repetition in the flow which makes this note feel a little awkward. I don't think I have a great solution for this since continuing the flow at 03:44:506 (1,2) – makes 03:44:806 (2,1) – be the awkward guy that breaks the flow. Maybe something like this can work since the flow into (2) breaks the repetition enough to get me out of the loop to move on to the new flow without being too different: http://puu.sh/r9NZf/0db87a620f.jpg

04:17:806 (1,1) – This DS feels low. Compare to 04:16:006 (1,1) – which did a nice job of separating the notes, making the short DS of 04:17:506 (5,1) – highlight the (1) note. I want to show a picture, but I can't get it to fit, so here is the code for you to consider:
Code
177,147,258106,5,0,0:0:0:0:
177,147,258256,1,0,0:0:0:0:
177,147,258406,1,0,0:0:0:0:
227,215,258706,5,4,0:0:0:0:
181,303,259006,5,0,0:0:0:0:
181,303,259156,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,303,259306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,248,259606,5,4,0:0:0:0:
268,354,259906,5,0,0:0:0:0:
268,354,260056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,354,260206,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,254,260506,5,4,0:0:0:0:

04:24:406 (1) – Try making this be a circle and putting the start of the spinner at 04:24:481 (1) – since a click here will help

[Tough]

00:19:908 (1,2) – Having a smaller DS conveys the ½ rhythm better imo: http://puu.sh/r9OFY/b56b01df4e.jpg

00:34:308 (1) – Try doing something more like this to make the slider path more visible: http://puu.sh/r9Oqy/b54ae500a2.jpg

00:54:558 (2) – What's the intention behind having a circle here? The long slider of (1) really calms this section down, so having a note here is a real aggressive transition between low intensity and high intensity. Ending (1) at 00:54:108 – might help this transition, or making the ½ have small DS like the suggestion at 00:19:908 (1,2) – . Or just consider deleting this note.
00:58:158 (2) - ^

02:37:458 (1,2) – This small DS doesn't play well to me.

I got lazy and gave up here. Good luck!
Kyu96
M4M

In general this is a very well mapped, so I can not see many things.
Also considering this map has, as you said, new techniques, - so please
consider the things I mention 'suggestions' and not 'mistakes' :)
I couldn't find much, but this is what I got:

[Grand Etude]
  1. 01:11:358 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Can you explain the spacing change here? Look at this picture please : http://i.imgur.com/lHdzmdY.jpg
    At the first notes have a small spacing and then the spacing increases. However the sound is exactly the same during these horizontal jumps.
    So I don't see the reason to increase the spacing.
    by the way, I am sure you know it but these jumps, and also the previous ones are insanely hard to hit.
  2. 02:09:708 (3) - Hm, why not making this a short stream, then it would match with this 02:10:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - ?
    Oh I just saw you did the same thing a bit later where you always switch between stream and slider, then this might be fine.
  3. 02:13:308 (1,1,1) - Not really necessary but you might want to make them having the same shape?
  4. 02:57:108 (1,1) - Hmm, whats the reason for this overlap when you didn't overlap sliders before? :o
    But if you decide to overlap them, you might also wann overlap these 02:59:508 (1,1) - to keep it consistent.
  5. 03:02:974 (2,3,4,5,6) - Eventually move this pattern a tiny little bit up so that the distance between 03:02:808 (1,2) - and 03:03:308 (6,1) - is the same?
  6. 03:07:156 (2,4,6,2,4,6,2,4,6) - The last two note here is a bit weird placed: http://i.imgur.com/aNOWZcV.jpg You might wanna position it the same way you did with the others, linear?

And lastly I noticed you haven't set any kiai-times? Was that on purpouse? If not you should set some :')
Pretty interessting and also very difficult map ( to play and to mod ^^), - good luck on ranking.
Hopefully at least on of the points I mentioned helped you!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

-Ku wrote:

[Grand Etude]

01:11:358 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Can you explain the spacing change here? Look at this picture please : http://i.imgur.com/lHdzmdY.jpg
At the first notes have a small spacing and then the spacing increases. However the sound is exactly the same during these horizontal jumps.
So I don't see the reason to increase the spacing.
Fixed.

02:09:708 (3) - Hm, why not making this a short stream, then it would match with this 02:10:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - ?
Oh I just saw you did the same thing a bit later where you always switch between stream and slider, then this might be fine.
In previous version this part had most streams, but i had to change them into sliders since streams before 1/5 streams are out and go on broken rhythm. They must be 1/6. So i had no choice but to replace them with sliders.

02:57:108 (1,1) - Hmm, whats the reason for this overlap when you didn't overlap sliders before? :o
Fixed.

03:07:156 (2,4,6,2,4,6,2,4,6) - The last two note here is a bit weird placed: http://i.imgur.com/aNOWZcV.jpg You might wanna position it the same way you did with the others, linear?
Fixed.


And lastly I noticed you haven't set any kiai-times? Was that on purpouse? If not you should set some :')
Pretty interessting and also very difficult map ( to play and to mod ^^), - good luck on ranking.
Hopefully at least on of the points I mentioned helped you!
I don't like kiai, thats the reason. Thanks for modding!
Varqaaa
Is this back??? Lovely map, and unforgiving too
Net0
Hey from #modreq.

[General]
  1. Tags A believe you can put a few tags to link this map to similar piano/classic music out there.
  2. It seems there's an unsed hitsound "soft-hitnormal3.wav"
  3. "Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
    soft-hitnormal2.wav
    soft-hitnormal3.wav"
    I've checked and couldn't really see when you have used them.
  4. Timing is not consistent. I did some search to find where was the problem and I could find TWO timing points with wrong offset. It was in "Soft" difficulty.

    Soft
    15. Offset: 182.806ms BPM: 180,00
    16. Offset: 183.389ms BPM: 183,00

    This offsets are 2MS earlier than the respective ones in all other difficulites
    Avarage
    14. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: 180,00
    15. Offset: 183.391ms BPM: 183,00

    Tough
    14. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: 180,00
    15. Offset: 183.391ms BPM: 183,00

    Fabulous
    42. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: 180,00
    43. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: Inherited (1,5x)

    Grand Etude
    42. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: 180,00
    43. Offset: 182.808ms BPM: Inherited (1,5x)



[Soft]
    1. Unsnapped slider end 03:01:008 (3) -
    2. This pattern here could be all overlapped or not overlapped. Right now 01:15:708 (1,2) - 01:16:608 (2,3) - 01:17:508 (3,4) - are overlapped but 01:14:808 (1,1) - are not. Another suggestion could be that you make this 01:14:808 (1,1,1) - all not overlapped but equally spaced looking like a triple.
    3. Suggestion: Try to blend this sliders 02:57:408 (1,3) - . Or at least make the slider head of 02:57:408 (1) - fitting into the body of slider 03:01:008 (3) -
    4. This mapping fits and it's good. But the distance is really big here 02:13:308 (1,1) - . It's 0,5x bigger. Are you sure about it?
    5. Same as above, distance is bigger than 1,3x 03:14:206 (1,2) - it's 1,53x. Could probably nerf it a bit into 1,4x?
    6. ^ 04:13:606 (4) -
[Average]
  1. Small overlap 00:04:908 (2,2) - . Space it just a liiiiitle bit. Like from y:256 to y: 261. Make sure to keep symmetry with this 00:04:008 (1) -
  2. Blanket fix 00:23:508 (3,1) - . Small stuff http://puu.sh/rctOx.jpg
  3. Spacing is 0,89x 01:46:908 (1,1) - You might want to buff this a little bit.

Hopefully this can help you. I don't really feel confident enough in my modding skills to mod other difficulites of this set. It's a great mapset and really deserves the rank. Best of luck o/
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Fixed timing issues in Soft and some minor stuff in Advanced. Thanks
Fenza
From modding q
I don't really know about this being classical...
Grand Etude
00:27:108 (7) - i feel like this should get a lot more emphasis than it does because of the strong beat
00:36:708 (1,1,1,1) - these sliders should get some whistles on the sliderheads since the pithces here are so high
00:40:308 (1,1,1,1) - ^
00:43:908 (1,1,1,1) - ^
00:47:208 (3) - this needs more emphasis https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6106192 you can have the pattern like this (only example)
00:47:508 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - every single 4 here should be a 1/4 kickslider, because you used kicksliders for these sounds earlier in the map, it would follow the song better and give the 5's the emphasis that they deserve
01:00:408 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this low spacing doesn't really fit the map, it's too easy for a 7 star diff and how strong the beats are.
01:04:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^
01:48:408 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this is really awkward and hard to read imo, i couldn't understand what was going on until i took a closer look in the editor.
01:52:008 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - ^
01:55:608 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
but these patterns do give the map a nice touch because of how different they are so i can understand wanting to keep them, do make them a bit easier to read though please ;)
02:00:558 (2,3,4) - spacing out this from 02:00:408 (1) - makes it a whole lot easier to read and play.
02:09:708 (3) - this slider is kinda cool but just continuing the 1/4 is better imo
02:13:308 (1) - ^
02:15:108 (1) - ^
02:16:908 (1) - ^
03:02:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - idk about these jumpstreams, they seem forced for difficulty
this is a very different map
sorry i didn't mod any other but listening to this song for any longer would make me insane.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

Fenza wrote:

00:36:708 (1,1,1,1) - these sliders should get some whistles on the sliderheads since the pithces here are so high
00:40:308 (1,1,1,1) - ^
00:43:908 (1,1,1,1) - ^
added whistles.
IwanWenChoong
Grand Etude

Bring near a bit this circles with another
03:03:391 (1) until 03:03:308 (6)
03:03:882 (1) until 03:03:800 (5)
03:04:123 (4) until 03:04:043 (3)
03:04:365 (7) until 03:04:284 (6)
03:04:526 (9) until 03:04:606 (1)
It's very hard to do the stream with circles so separate


Suggestion:
02:09:708 (3)
02:13:308 (1)
02:15:108 (1)
02:16:908 (1)
Convert this sliders in stream circles


Between this circles
00:47:058 and 00:47:208
00:47:958 and 00:48:108
00:48:858 and 00:49:008

Add a new circle in the middle
they represent the bass sound
Lama Poluna
m4m, hey

Grand Etude


  • 00:04:008 (1,2,3) - Ctrl+H?
    00:08:808 (5) - http://puu.sh/rfrD8.jpg? (5) на (5)
    00:13:008 (3) - x273 y360. 00:12:708 (1,2) - Это станет параллельна 00:13:158 (1,2) - этому.
    00:14:208 (5) - x440 y76, неровно.
    00:16:908 (5) - x310 y128.
    00:19:008 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rfs05.jpg. Я думаю их нужно расположить так, потому что выглядит аккуратней.
    00:31:308 (5) - x201 y278, неровно.
    00:35:508 (1) - http://puu.sh/rfs77.jpg, я бы поставил его на линию 00:34:308 (1,1,1,1) - , так как игрок не знает что музыка кончится, то он пойдет именно в это место курсором что бы нажать.
    00:58:308 (1,2,1,2) - Вроде тоже не параллельно.
    01:34:108 (2) - Тут ненужный свисток на основе слайдера.
    Кстате, я бы заменил звук слайдера когда он катится на пустой звук.
    02:22:608 (1,2) - Эти два слишком близко к 02:22:308 (4) - стоят, если смотреть на дргуие (1,2).
    03:00:708 (1,2) - Почему тут ты поставил 2 слайдера вместо 03:00:408 (1,2,3) - ?
    03:03:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Я боюсь, что это слишком сложно, но я не знаю.
    03:05:806 (5) - x491 y257, потому что будет легче играться. Провести курсором по направлению слайдера и сразу на ноту.
    03:12:406 (1,3,5) - http://puu.sh/rfsAW.jpg, может сделать нечто такое?
    03:16:006 (1,2,3,4) - Может сделать ее ровной? Смотрится не аккуратно, будто ты ноты на просто так поставил.
    04:10:006 (3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/rfsID.jpg, можно поставить их так, выглядит аккуратно, еще и с 04:10:606 (1) - будет образовывать ромб и спейсинг чуть больше к (1), все по логике.
    04:13:756 (4) - x207 y241, разве не такая задумка была?

Я пишу мод на самую сложную диффу, так как в других я особо ничего предложить не смогу.
Вообще, мне кажется, это очень веселая диффа для игры, мне понравилась :з
Удачи.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
thanks for modding
Shmiklak
м4м
осу меня тролит. одну кудосу за этот шедевр ;w;



[Основное]
  1. А этот фон как то связан с треком? Или с его Source? Если нет то помоему лучше поставить что то типо пианино или что то в этом роде. Например вот это http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/qkmzqDgz
  2. В теги можно запихнуть такие вещи как classical music piano, ну и еще что нибудь



[Grand Etude]
  1. Довольное фашистское предложение, однако тут у тебя шло все вправо 00:00:408 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - тут все влево 00:02:208 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - , а тут 00:04:008 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - все в одну сторону. Предложение такое: Так как 00:00:408 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - стаки шли вправо то вот этих 00:04:308 (2,3) - надо также повернуть направо. Дальше так же можно оставить.
  2. 00:36:708 (1,1,1,1) - зачем ты так скорость менять начал? Я не чувствую любого усиления в музыке, то есть не думаю что ускорения требуются.
    Аналогично для других подобных штук во всех диффах.
  3. вот это чудо и вот это 00:42:408 (1,2,3,4,1) - кривые. Я понял что ты хотел их прямыми как тут 00:41:508 (2,3,4,5,1) - но с поворотм, но возникает вопрос. Почему ты просто не скопировал его и не повернул? Итог довольно заметная кривизна в стримчиках. Исправь.
  4. 01:09:558 (1) - этот нк чувствуется лишним. Везде до этого был заюзан нк через три объекта, а этот через 2, да и по музыке я бы лучше тут впихнул нк 01:09:708 (2) - чем было сделано тобой.
  5. вот этот оверлап 01:17:358 (6,2) - кажется для меня так себе. Давай избавимся от него о3о
  6. если смотреть по тому как было сделанно до этого то тут должен быть нк 02:00:108 (2) -
  7. использование длинного слайдера тут 02:09:708 (3) - не совсем оправдывает музыку. начиная с 02:10:008 - долгий звук кончается и начинается 1/х спам в музыке ("х" потому что я хз какой там снаппинг. не пойму чет.)
    также и тут 02:13:308 (1) - 02:15:108 (1) - и т.п.
  8. 02:17:808 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - тут я предлагаю уменьшать дс так как музыка ослабевает, при том что тут 02:23:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - на усилениях музыки усиление дс было.
  9. 02:23:058 - и 02:23:133 - я бы выделил нотами ибо тут звук отличается от того что было раньше и просто кик слайдер стремно.
    Ничего больше по этой диффе не вижу



[Fabulous]
  1. 00:36:708 (1,1,1,1) - даже в эксперте они были ближе друг к другу. бтв опять же не вижу причин на смену св
    аналогично ко всем таким моментам
  2. предлагаю сделать тут 02:04:908 (1) - 1/4 реверс слайдер, лучше следует музыке.
  3. 02:17:808 (1) - вот этот самооверлап http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/6h5GqPSe выглядит херово. исправь пожалуйста
    Ничего больше по этой диффе не вижу



[Tough]
  1. я считаю тут 00:20:658 (2) - должен быть НК так как звучание сильно сменилось.
  2. как мы знаем по рц движение мяча по слайдеру должно быть логичным и понятным при игре. я очень сомневаюсь что вот это 00:34:308 (1) - можно сыграть нормально с первой или даже второй попытки. Движение совсем не логичное и не понятное. Короче говоря анранк
  3. 02:09:708 (4) - Использование большого количества красных точек для того что бы замедлить какой то участок слайдера также карается анранком. Иначе говоря бурай слайдеры анранкабельны.
    аналогично к другим бурай слайдерам например 02:13:308 (1) -
  4. 02:17:808 (1) - Самооверлап смотрится не красиво. Исправь пожалуйста.
  5. 03:21:106 (5) - тут бы я нк поставил. звучание другое сильно.
  6. а тут 03:24:106 (1) - я бы убрал нк по той же причине и добавил на 03:24:706 (2) -
    Ничего больше по этой диффе не вижу



[Average]
  1. 00:07:308 (1) - почему он находится на 1.1 дс когда все остальное находится на 1.0 друг от друга? это не совсем верно. подвинь на 1.0 дс.
  2. 01:36:408 (3) - здесь нужно нк, опять же по звучанию музыки если ориентироваться.
    Ничего больше по этой диффе не вижу



[Soft]

  • Абсолютно нечего сказать по этой диффе. Хорошая работа!
Удачи! о3о
LMT
Hi, from #modreqs!
  • [Grand Etude]
  1. 03:59:206 (1,2,3,4) - There's a change in tone here, maybe a new visual pattern instead?
  2. 00:19:308 (1,2,3,4) - I think the gap in pitch between this and 00:19:908 (1,2,3,4) - this is equal so they should have the same spacing scaling, might be a good idea to copy paste it and shrink the whole pattern by x0.50 .
  3. 03:03:800 (5,1) - This is quite a huge anti-flow, that's a big jump too (which is fine if there wasn't such a huge anti-flow), maybe that's a bit overdone. How about ctrl+g each of the sets?
    [Fabulous]
  4. 00:37:008 (2,3,4) - Not sure about what the actual rule is but I've been told to NC the slider if it changes velocity. It might be the case here as well.
  5. 00:40:008 (5) - The structure you've built from the previous notes (00:39:108 (5) - and 00:38:208 (5) - ) has a mapped note on the red tick (00:40:158 - here) so I think it makes sense to map this a 1/2 slider. If you think that's a fair point then don't forget to change 00:43:608 (5) - too.
  6. 01:28:908 (1,2,3,4,5) - the change from 1/2 to 1/3 rhythm isn't obvious to the player here so does https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6162943 this makes sense to you?
    [Tough]
  7. 00:20:658 (2) - starting sliders on red ticks is a bit off-putting for players at this level so maybe something like this might be better? http://i.imgur.com/dk4gAzf.jpg .
  8. 01:48:558 (2,3,4,5) - I think the white ticks are stronger than the red ticks so personally I would shift all of these to the white tick and add a circle on the red tick and stack it on what is now 2 . https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6163045 just in case my wording confuses you.
  9. 01:52:158 (2,3,4) - same here too.
This is so good :D , classical mapping for a classical piece! How fitting.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

LMT1996 wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs!
  • [Grand Etude]
  1. 03:03:800 (5,1) - This is quite a huge anti-flow, that's a big jump too (which is fine if there wasn't such a huge anti-flow), maybe that's a bit overdone. How about ctrl+g each of the sets? I'll think about it, thanks for pointing out

    [Fabulous]
  2. 00:37:008 (2,3,4) - Not sure about what the actual rule is but I've been told to NC the slider if it changes velocity. It might be the case here as well. fixed
  3. 00:40:008 (5) - The structure you've built from the previous notes (00:39:108 (5) - and 00:38:208 (5) - ) has a mapped note on the red tick (00:40:158 - here) so I think it makes sense to map this a 1/2 slider. If you think that's a fair point then don't forget to change 00:43:608 (5) - too. fixed

    [Tough]
  4. 01:48:558 (2,3,4,5) - I think the white ticks are stronger than the red ticks so personally I would shift all of these to the white tick and add a circle on the red tick and stack it on what is now 2 . https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6163045 just in case my wording confuses you.
  5. 01:52:158 (2,3,4) - same here too.
    Hmm, actually you're right. I'll remake this entire section, thanks for pointing out
This is so good :D , classical mapping for a classical piece! How fitting.
Thanks a lot ~
Darcsol
The mod went faster than I thought. Anyway,

M4M request

[General]
  1. The song is a remix of the original La campanella by Franz Liszt. Unfortunately I can't find who did it. If you know who remixed it, please edit the title.
  2. Because of what I said above, the source is technically misleading. Move it to tags.
  3. Add Étude No. 3 in G-sharp minor to tags
  4. Consider moving the preview point to a more interesting spot. I recommend 01:29:508 .
  5. (Optional) The colors on the notes should reflect the BG. Seeing a very green and deep blue notes in front of a moody BG is jarring.

[Soft]
It's interesting that the two easiest diffs have the most spinners on the map. Consider removing some and map them over.
  1. 01:40:908 (1) - The spinner should end at 01:46:233
  2. 01:58:008 (2) - New combo?
I'm not sure what your patterns are in the combos. Please check them over.

[Average]
Like I said above, consider removing some spinners and map them over.
  1. 00:43:908 (5) - New combo?
  2. 01:18:408 (4) - ^
  3. 01:29:208 (4) - ^
  4. 03:19:906 (2) - ^
  5. 03:27:106 (4) - ^
Again about your combos. Please check them over.

[Tough]
Nothing wrong. Needs polish though.

[Fabulous]
Again, nothing wrong. My favorite diff of the map. Some polishing required.

[Grand Etude]
Sadly it's too hard for me to play. Looks good though.

Not much to find. Good map
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

Darcsol wrote:

The mod went faster than I thought. Anyway,

M4M request

[General]
  1. The song is a remix of the original La campanella by Franz Liszt. Unfortunately I can't find who did it. If you know who remixed it, please edit the title. That's a secret for me too. But, only sound samples were used, there are no additional stuff in music, that's why i named it exactly like that.
  2. Add Étude No. 3 in G-sharp minor to tags added
  3. (Optional) The colors on the notes should reflect the BG. Seeing a very green and deep blue notes in front of a moody BG is jarring. will fix this later

[Soft]
I
  1. 01:40:908 (1) - The spinner should end at 01:46:233 fixed
  2. 01:58:008 (2) - New combo? added

Not much to find. Good map
thanks
Hollow Delta
From #modreqs doing M4M.
aiMod stuff first:
SPOILER
The mapset has tag conflict issues. Sorry I can't specify which ones, but I'd take the diff with the most amount of tags, and paste it into the other diffs.

Grand Etude
SPOILER
00:00:408 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These notes have the same spacing as 00:01:308 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - yet the first pair has higher pitch. Their's a lot you can do here, so I won't tell you what pattern to do, but let it be something with a little more spacing so it fits the map better.
00:20:208 (3,4) - So far it looks like you've been mapping by distance. So why not space these out more since they're higher pitch?
00:46:458 (2,3,4) - Since these have higher pitch than 00:45:558 (2,3,4) - You should space them out more.
01:10:608 (8) - These stacks are getting a little crowded, why not NC?
01:17:508 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are being overlapped by the previous slider, can you fix this by moving this whole group up slightly? You know what, now that I think about it, you do it again in the next pattern, so I can't tell if it's a gimmick, or if it was by accident. So it's up to you whether you fix this or not.
02:05:508 (1) - I can see that you're coming in from 02:05:208 (2) - Which makes sense, but if 1 could be a little more angled to the left, it'd look better flowing into the next pattern.
03:49:456 (8) - A little crowded, so why not NC?

Fabulous
SPOILER
00:16:008 (2) - I can see why you kept this straight, but I can also see opportunities to give this more shape. You can curve it into 00:16:308 (1) - so their's a sense of direction in flow, you could also curve it into 00:15:408 (1) - For a blanket. Either option would look cool.
01:29:308 (5) - I'd NC this since it starts on a 1/3 tick, which could through a player off guard sometimes.
02:28:758 - I know it's close to a break, but going from reverse sliders to just mapping the beat is lame, so I'd make it more challenging by mapping 1/2 instead of 1/1.
04:02:806 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personal suggestion, but I'd space out the notes as the pitch increases. :)

Tough
SPOILER
00:10:008 (1) - This slider has the same pitch / exaggeration as 00:09:108 (1) - yet it has a shape that says 'I'M SPECIAL.' Make this a curved slider at the exact same degree as the other one So it matches the song better.
00:58:908 (1) - Very boring. I'd change it to a 1/1 slider, circle, 1/1 slider.
01:40:908 (1) - Can you make the second ring of this slider blanket 01:40:608 (3) - ?
02:13:308 (1) - The reverse arrow on one of the ends is diagonal, I'd fix this by adding a red-point right after the white one so it's straight.
02:48:258 (1) - I almost didn't notice the bumps even in the editor, make these more noticeable somehow?

Average
SPOILER
I'm really sorry, I couldn't find much about this diff. It seems solid.
03:53:806 (3) - Why does this one have an anchor point, it's the same intensity as the other sliders.
03:56:506 (6) - Since you have a rhythm change, why not NC?

Soft
SPOILER
02:46:458 (1,2,3) - I know it seems lazy pointing out so little mods in these last two diffs, but I'm 90% sure obvious overlaps like these aren't allowed. I'd reformat them in a straight line vertically.

Mapset's very good, so it was very hard to mod, hopefully I at least helped with something. Have a good night.
Shurelia
louis are you for real!?

Glad to have you back!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

Shurelia wrote:

louis are you for real!?

Glad to have you back!
Yea :D
vipto
Spread is completely fucked, this set needs two more diffs between Fabulous and Grand Etude as it stands now.

I really dont understand why noone has mentioned this yet.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

viptwo wrote:

Spread is completely fucked, this set needs two more diffs between Fabulous and Grand Etude as it stands now.
I really dont understand why noone has mentioned this yet.
I'd answer your question politely, but since your way to show personal opinion sucks, i don't really want.
vipto

Louis Cyphre wrote:

viptwo wrote:

Spread is completely fucked, this set needs two more diffs between Fabulous and Grand Etude as it stands now.
I really dont understand why noone has mentioned this yet.
I'd answer your question politely, but since your way to show personal opinion sucks, i don't really want.
Personal opinion? I don't think it's a personal opinion to mention that the spread this set has is lackluster.
7ambda

viptwo wrote:

Spread is completely fucked, this set needs two more diffs between Fabulous and Grand Etude as it stands now.
Routing had a 2.04* gap, and that got ranked. Sure, it's not a great spread, but it's not unrankable.
Stjpa

F1r3tar wrote:

viptwo wrote:

Spread is completely fucked, this set needs two more diffs between Fabulous and Grand Etude as it stands now.
Routing had a 2.04* gap, and that got ranked. Sure, it's not a great spread, but it's not unrankable.
Stop comparing maps.

In Routing it was possible since the only difference between Extra and Comfort (or whatever the last diff is called) was spacing. And in this case there are huge differences in spacing, density etc. So yeah, not really rankable.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Stop comparing maps.

In Routing it was possible since the only difference between Extra and Comfort (or whatever the last diff is called) was spacing. And in this case there are huge differences in spacing, density etc. So yeah, not really rankable.
Huge difference/density between what exact difficulties? Grand Etude and Fabulous? If those two, then yea, i totally agree. The gap between them is great, but a bold however:

Grand Etude difficulty has about 95% proximity to the way it should be implemented. This difficulty was named Grand Etude not because i love the name so i set it. No. It was named like this because i've done a port from piano composition. To understand what kind of piano piece is this follow these links: wiki, Synthesia play, Yundi Li's play. And this difficulty is considered as EXTRA and not Extreme and there are great difference between these names. I hope i don't need to tell what kind exactly. So what i wanted to say: this mapset contains 4 standard usual difficulties and an Extra difficulty. I've already a map with such unusual set.

I really don't want to make an Extreme or something similar to 6*, that would be just wrong, just not correct. It's not like i'm lazy or so. The problem is that i'd had to map Extreme away of music proximity by using different ways of feeling the rhythm (like E N H I). So i want to keep everything as it is now. Thanks for attention.
vipto

Louis Cyphre wrote:

Stop comparing maps.

In Routing it was possible since the only difference between Extra and Comfort (or whatever the last diff is called) was spacing. And in this case there are huge differences in spacing, density etc. So yeah, not really rankable.
Huge difference/density between what exact difficulties? Grand Etude and Fabulous? If those two, then yea, i totally agree. The gap between them is great, but a bold however:

Grand Etude difficulty has about 95% proximity to the way it should be implemented. This difficulty was named Grand Etude not because i love the name so i set it. No. It was named like this because i've done a port from piano composition. To understand what kind of piano piece is this follow these links: wiki, Synthesia play, Yundi Li's play. And this difficulty is considered as EXTRA and not Extreme and there are great difference between these names. I hope i don't need to tell what kind exactly. So what i wanted to say: this mapset contains 4 standard usual difficulties and an Extra difficulty. I've already a map with such unusual set.

I really don't want to make an Extreme or something similar to 6*, that would be just wrong, just not correct. It's not like i'm lazy or so. The problem is that i'd had to map Extreme away of music proximity by using different ways of feeling the rhythm (like E N H I). So i want to keep everything as it is now. Thanks for attention.
I mean it's up to you if you want to leave it as it is but dont expect it to be ranked then.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

viptwo wrote:

I mean it's up to you if you want to leave it as it is but dont expect it to be ranked then.
Yea, thanks a lot. I'll call you back mister president.


EDIT:
discussed via IRC with Irreversible and Doyak. Back to WIP, i'll add 1 difficulty between Tough and Fabulous, and 1 difficulty between Fabulous and Grand Etude.
ErunamoJAZZ
[Tough]
  1. 01:00:408 (1,2) - 01:04:008 (2,1) - Im not sure what was you following here, but, I want to do a suggestion, I think it feels better
  2. 01:40:908 (1,1) - I felt this spacing a bit.. annoying... since 01:40:908 (1) - was too long, my mind got used to the slider velocity, so this spacing was like.. very away.
  3. 02:09:708 (4) - 02:13:308 (1) - I like those n.n
  4. I not understood the rhythms you chose in 03:28:906 (1,2,1) -
  5. nazi blankets in 00:04:008 (1,1) - :P
[Average]
Nice, my unique complain is about the overlap in 03:08:806 (4,2) - , I feel this will look a bit mess.

[Soft]
  1. 02:50:208 (1,2,1) - is not flow a bit strange for a low diff like this?
  2. 04:13:606 (4,1) - 03:44:956 (1,2,1) - Spacing is very different.
[Fabulous]
  1. That was really cool. I like this diff a lot, but I cant pass it xDDD
  2. I tried it like 20 times, but I failed after 03:28:756 - EVER, and died in 03:34:006 - each time u.u
  3. 01:09:858 (2,1) - pls, dont stack those >_< That was really difficult to read.
[]

I cant pass grand etude, so, sorry u.u
ugg, sad you need to add more difficults bc system :(

Good luck!!, I love your maps too much!
Joe Castle
do you smell that?

is mapping drama
DaxMasterix
Will you keep this chiptune remix above the original? I cannot find another source than Youtube
The spread is absoluty ok now
One of the most impresive maps in years IMO
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre

DaxMasterix wrote:

Will you keep this chiptune remix above the original? I cannot find another source than Youtube
I can't find any other correct versions. This is exactly the original version of La Campanella which includes all notes one by one. I can't call this a remix. And i've my doubts about that video. I've found this mp3 randomly on russian social network.



One of the most impresive maps in years IMO
Thanks ;)
_Meep_
magnifeeshent
01:09:558 (1,2,3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281823 <-- do this, since the music is going higher and higher and it fits the music mroe,have 6 be below the slider start of 5th slider.
01:13:308 (1,1) - I think there's come opportunity for you to start making some patterns here,since the sounds between the start and end of the slider are pretty distinct and aren't similar,so you can maybe add in a red bezier to make the slider look more wanky? Like in the shape of an upside down L
01:57:108 (1,2,3,4,1) - It's a bit hard to see that it's a quintiple, because the 1 is so far away,and that if hidden were to be turned on,its nearly impossible to sightread this. Same goes for 01:58:008 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,1) -
02:09:708 (1,1) - I think this is too far apart
03:20:956 - Why empty?. should be the same as 03:24:106 (1,2,3,4) -

[Intense]
03:06:256 (1,1,1) - I think these can be shaped into the earlier sliders like 01:47:208 (1) -
01:02:208 (4) - curve this up(suggestion)
01:02:508 (1,2,1,2,3) - I feel like this should go up than go down,because the music gets higher and higher
03:32:506 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Ctrl+H Ctrl+J

I seriously can't find much in this symmetrical hell but fun to play map, but yea, I really can't find much,I won't say much about aesthetics as I'm not too good at pointing them out. The flow is good(at some parts) and the jumps are doable for the various difficulties
CircleChu
NO ENTRY FOR GENERAL PUBLIC
Warning! Russian mod incoming.
Софт.
00:07:308 (1,2,3,1,2) - Как на счёт такого ритма :arrow: http://puu.sh/rCR6Z/16d14ceb03.jpg
01:37:308 (2) - музыка явно пытается сказать, что здесь нужно тыкнуть новое комбо, но нужно будет менять предыдущие объекты. думаю, ты сможешь что-то придумать :3
01:40:945 - вот сюда можно бы было передвинуть спинер и втулить перед ним кружок на 01:40:908 -
01:58:908 (2,1) - может стакнуть бы это? затем передвинь 02:00:708 (4) - на х502 у192
03:21:406 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Как по мне, то вся эта секция звучит очень странно. Думаю лучше бы вставить 03:16:006 (2) - таких слайдеров 03:21:706 - сюда и 03:25:306 - сюда.
03:52:006 (1,3) - вот это подравнять бы
03:59:206 (2) - а сюды комбо)
04:23:506 (3) - и сюда тоже можно
Авараже
00:06:408 (2,1) - не суть, но бланкет можно подравнять
01:55:308 (3) - сюда бы еще комбо
02:59:208 (3) - тут тоже бланкет сравить можно)
02:54:708 (3) - на самом деле не уверен, стоит ли это вообще упоминать, но подвинь на 1 У вверх XD
03:01:008 (5) - может комбо сюда? о
03:19:906 (2) - как по мне, тут лучше звучит репит слайдер на 1/1
03:23:506 (4) - ну и тут.
03:27:106 (4) - ._.
03:28:306 (1) - тут подвинь конец слайдера на Х8 У197, ровнее смотрится.
03:31:006 (4) - теперь я уже даже сомневаюсь, но сам бы точно вставил репит..)
03:55:606 (5,1) - вот тут комбо местами свапнуть бы
04:07:006 - тут явно не хватает кружка
Тоугх
00:19:908 (1) - тут ритм сбивает с толку, попробуй так :arrow: http://puu.sh/rCTsI/574b654b08.jpg
01:40:008 (1,2,3) - может унстакнуть это? звук немного другой, можно не сразу понять)
02:09:708 (4) - а сюды и комбо вставить льзя
02:57:408 (1,2) - может стоит таки заменить на слайдер?
03:13:456 (1) - а тут можно развернуть, что бы читалось лучше, с помощью ctrl g
03:45:256 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - а здесь классно бы было постепенно уменьшать спейсинг
03:50:806 (1) - тут комбо, что бы читабельнее было)
03:57:406 (4) - и тут
Интенсе
02:28:908 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - может убавить немного громкости
02:51:408 (2) - тут свисток поправь :р
03:01:008 - я бы точно сюда кружок втулил
03:43:906 (1,2,3,4) - смена ритма трудно читается, вот так смотрелось бы лучше :arrow: http://puu.sh/rCTsI/574b654b08.jpg
03:44:956 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - вот тут тоже можно убавлять спейсинг, на твое усмотрение
03:51:706 (3) - я сюда комбо еще
Фебьюлоус
01:21:708 (3) - вот тут свисток поправь)
02:28:908 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - и тут можно было бы звук убавить
02:35:658 (1) - сюда хлопок хорошо заходит
03:21:106 (2) - и тут свисток поправить бы
03:24:706 (6) - или эти свистки были так задуманы?
03:24:106 (5) - вот сюда бы комбо, что бы было похоже на 03:20:506 (1) - это
03:27:706 (5) - комбо? о
03:28:306 (6) - свисток? :с
03:38:506 (1) - сюда хлопок
Магнифисент
00:07:158 (6,7) - почему у тебя тут разный спейсинг? о
01:09:108 (1) - свисток поправь)
01:11:358 (2) - этот хлопок кажется лишним
01:18:108 (3) - тут тоже свисток поправь
02:23:208 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - вот эта секция смотрится реально не аккуратно, было бы хорошо поправить :р
03:29:506 (1) - а здесь хлопок нужен?
03:44:956 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - я бы наоборот уменьшал спейсинг между кружками
Гранде Етюде
прости, я не знаю как модить совершенное :P
Генерал стафф
Повырубай Widescreen Support, у тебя же нет сториборда)
Можешь теги подобавлять, типу - 8 bit, piano, classical, lucifer и т.д, что бы игрокам легче было найти мапу)
P.S: I love you.
tatemae
[SINGLETAP TRAINING]
00:33:408 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - мне почему-то кажется это нужно поменять с этим 00:34:608 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) звук в конце становится тоньше, да и идет к завершению парта, поэтому я и думаю, что спейсинг должен уменьшаться, но эт все крайне субъективно, лол.
01:47:508 (5,6,7,8) - я думаю, тут спейсинг должен меняться имо, чтобы детальнее отразить музыку
01:51:108 (5,6,7,8) - ^)
01:54:708 (5,6,7,8) - тоже, в общем во всех похожих моментах
02:25:308 (1,2) - сомневаюсь в эстетичности эти оверлапов, что ты хотел этим показать?
02:48:408 (1,2,3) - добавить спейсинга?
03:04:123 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - звук изменился, стал более грубым(я плохо описываю звуки, сорь), но спейсинг остался тот же, просто думаю, что стоит его уменьшить или наоборот увеличить. Но лучше уменьшить как тут у тебя 03:36:706 (1) -

[Magnificent]
00:34:908 (5,6,7,8,9) - тоже, что и в хай диффе, как-то нужно выделить тонкость звука
01:48:108 (1,2,3,4) - еще бы больше закруглить стрим, 01:46:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - чтобы он был продолжением круга
Блин, гораздо лучше хай диффы выглядит :c

[Fabulous]
00:37:908 (1,2,3,4,5) - под таким углом не очень смотрится, как тут, к примеру 00:39:708 (1,2,3,4,5) -
01:09:858 (2,3,1,2) - как насчет приближать их к друг дружке, вместо того, чтобы стакать
01:54:708 (5,6,7,8) - ну про это я в хай диффе говорил
02:13:308 (1) - фак, лучшая чаcть

Остальные диффы для меня ок.
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