i have a question, what if the captain of the team won't be able to play? would the match still be played?
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As long as 3 members are able to make it, I see no reason why it wouldn't?Gemitaiz wrote:
i have a question, what if the captain of the team won't be able to play? would the match still be played?
oh alright then i was just wondering \owo/Scyan wrote:
As long as 3 members are able to make it, I see no reason why it wouldn't?Gemitaiz wrote:
i have a question, what if the captain of the team won't be able to play? would the match still be played?
Best of luck to all teams for weekend matches!
-Absolite (Member from NotEstellia)
(Saying this cuz I couldn't play any matches for my team last weekend LOL!)
-Absolite (Member from NotEstellia)
(Saying this cuz I couldn't play any matches for my team last weekend LOL!)
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These matches are canceled due to a team resigning from the tournament:
Nevi's harem - Sacred Baguette 11 am / 11:00 UTC
Nevi's harem - Senpai Reich 12 pm / 12:00 UTC
The teams who stay in the tournament will get a default win from these matches.
Nevi's harem - Sacred Baguette 11 am / 11:00 UTC
Nevi's harem - Senpai Reich 12 pm / 12:00 UTC
The teams who stay in the tournament will get a default win from these matches.
Is our match scheduled for 1PM going to be altered at all? Schedule still hasn't been updated with a new time. :p
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Working on it^^Scyan wrote:
Is our match scheduled for 1PM going to be altered at all? Schedule still hasn't been updated with a new time. :p
Edit: It's moved to 3 pm.
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These matches are canceled due to a team resigning from the tournament:
MastErbaters - ColonThree 1 pm / 13:00 UTC
Burning Lolis - ColonThree 3 pm / 15:00 UTC
Quake - ColonThree 4 pm / 16:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, teams who stay in the tournament will get a default win from these matches.
MastErbaters - ColonThree 1 pm / 13:00 UTC
Burning Lolis - ColonThree 3 pm / 15:00 UTC
Quake - ColonThree 4 pm / 16:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, teams who stay in the tournament will get a default win from these matches.
Our team made a promotional video, check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bKXTiXw2cc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bKXTiXw2cc
Looks good! Great work!
Snowwy wrote:
Our team made a promotional video, check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bKXTiXw2cc
Yo you guys still got spots open for staff ie. refs and commentators?
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All matches today will be delayed by an hour partly because of technical issues and partly because of referee issues. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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All help is welcome, I can add you as a ref to the staff.FoxAndVixen wrote:
Yo you guys still got spots open for staff ie. refs and commentators?
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This match is canceled due to a team resigning from the tournament:
[ Avenger ] - Senpai Reich 10 am / 10:00 UTC Deppy
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
[ Avenger ] - Senpai Reich 10 am / 10:00 UTC Deppy
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
If you still need a hand for Reffing then I would gladly join in to help just tell me! 
Is there anyway that the "We've Been AFK" teams matches for Sunday can get rescheduled? Or does the team captain have to ask...? It's probably too close to be able to do anything tho :/
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This match is canceled due to a team resigning from the tournament:
Special snowflakes - We've Been AFK 4 pm / 16:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
Special snowflakes - We've Been AFK 4 pm / 16:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
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This match is canceled due to a team resigning from the tournament:
Burning Lolis - Quake 2 pm / 14:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
Burning Lolis - Quake 2 pm / 14:00 UTC
This will be the same as with the other matches I posted earlier, team who stays in the tournament will get a default win from this match.
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Okay, so the Group Stage is over and these are the teams advancing into Round of 16:
- Group A
- Senpai Reich
- Sacred Baguette
Group B - Sliderbroke my life
- Jambon Beurre & Baguette
Group C - nice slider
- NotEstellia-
Group D - pls enjoy game
- Merp Rev2
Group E - PROpsy
- good shit
Group F - Burning Lolis
- MastErbaters
Group G - Broke a slider
- We've Been AFK
Group H - bigsugoioppai
- Pantsu Thieves
Would be nice if we (Broke a slider) could get our matches on a sundayTehron wrote:
Okay, so the Group Stage is over and these are the teams advancing into Round of 16:
- Group A
Round of 16 mappool will be announced shortly!
- Senpai Reich
- Sacred Baguette
Group B- Sliderbroke my life
- Jambon Beurre & Baguette
Group C- nice slider
- NotEstellia-
Group D- pls enjoy game
- Merp Rev2
Group E- PROpsy
- good shit
Group F- Burning Lolis
- MastErbaters
Group G- Broke a slider
- We've Been AFK
Group H- bigsugoioppai
- Pantsu Thieves
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Okay, thank you for being quick ^^B0aty wrote:
Would be nice if we (Broke a slider) could get our matches on a sundayTehron wrote:
Okay, so the Group Stage is over and these are the teams advancing into Round of 16:
- Group A
Round of 16 mappool will be announced shortly!
- Senpai Reich
- Sacred Baguette
Group B- Sliderbroke my life
- Jambon Beurre & Baguette
Group C- nice slider
- NotEstellia-
Group D- pls enjoy game
- Merp Rev2
Group E- PROpsy
- good shit
Group F- Burning Lolis
- MastErbaters
Group G- Broke a slider
- We've Been AFK
Group H- bigsugoioppai
- Pantsu Thieves
Edit: I'll announce schedules today because had time to do them now
Waiting for mappack to upload so I can announce the mappool at the same time.I would appreciate it if my team, bigsugoioppai's matches, weren't held in the mornings. I have morning classes for 5 days straight on weekdays and I would prefer to play in the afternoons and actually get to sleep in during the weekend before the games start. The group stage matches were kind of brutal for me so I hope you'll be able to accommodate that. Our timezone is UTC -5 (Eastern Standard Time).
Thanks
Thanks
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The Round of 16 mappool and schedules are now released!
Check on the main post for individual maps and links if you don't want to download the map pack!
Round of 16 Map Pack
Round of 16 Schedules
Check on the main post for individual maps and links if you don't want to download the map pack!
Round of 16 Map Pack
Round of 16 Schedules
Hi! I was wondering if our game (Burning Lolis vs. bigsugoioppai) could be played saturday at 5PM UTC?
We would really appreciate it if our North American player, dgap, could play with us at a reasonable time for her. Thanks
We would really appreciate it if our North American player, dgap, could play with us at a reasonable time for her. Thanks
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I'll ask the captain of bigsugoioppai.Snowwy wrote:
Hi! I was wondering if our game (Burning Lolis vs. bigsugoioppai) could be played saturday at 5PM UTC?
We would really appreciate it if our North American player, dgap, could play with us at a reasonable time for her. Thanks
The map Chihara Minori - Kyoukai no Kanata for nomod is unavailable for download
help
Edit: map here
1yr
help
Edit: map here
1yr
Alright guys, so Chihara Minori - Kyoukai no Kanata isn't available for download.
Here is Bloodcat link: https://bloodcat.com/osu/s/129077
Here is Bloodcat link: https://bloodcat.com/osu/s/129077
Kyoukai no Kanata's link cannot be fixed because it has violated DMCA. Other people looking to download the map should refer to the bloodcat link or download the mappack uploaded by tournament staff.Nuime wrote:
I hope for the link in the Round of 16 to be fixed ;w;
looking at ro16....
do you guys not understand how seeding works and why it exists or are you just stupid
do you guys not understand how seeding works and why it exists or are you just stupid
Some of these ro16 matches look pretty uneven, some high vs low seed, for example our team is: 10k, 16k, 17k, 19k, and 19k. Whereas the team we're playing vs is essentially a team of 6 10-11k players
If you passed the group stage, I think you're very good for a Low Seed !B0aty wrote:
Some of these ro16 matches look pretty uneven, some high vs low seed, for example our team is: 10k, 16k, 17k, 19k, and 19k. Whereas the team we're playing vs is essentially a team of 6 10-11k players
My team is also a Low Seed, but we beat a High Seed during the Group Stage. So it's possible :3
We didn't lose a single map in group stage, but I'm slightly worried about the ro16.Hanae wrote:
If you passed the group stage, I think you're very good for a Low Seed !B0aty wrote:
Some of these ro16 matches look pretty uneven, some high vs low seed, for example our team is: 10k, 16k, 17k, 19k, and 19k. Whereas the team we're playing vs is essentially a team of 6 10-11k players
My team is also a Low Seed, but we beat a High Seed during the Group Stage. So it's possible :3
Luckily my teammates are amazing, I'm very fortunate to have met the people I did. I'm sure they'll do fine, I guess it just boils down to the fact that I don't think I can personally compete at this level.
Good luck in your upcoming matches!
pls enjoy game , main reasons for all tournaments please have fun...B0aty wrote:
We didn't lose a single map in group stage, but I'm slightly worried about the ro16.
Luckily my teammates are amazing, I'm very fortunate to have met the people I did. I'm sure they'll do fine, I guess it just boils down to the fact that I don't think I can personally compete at this level.
Good luck in your upcoming matches!
Some slight issues with the scheduling of the upcoming game, is it possible to reschedule to 11am sunday/move to saturday?
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The ro16 matches are based on the amount of points the teams scored in the Group Stage (which reflects the team's performance better than the actual seed given before group stage imo) and this is why there are low seeded teams going against high seeded.captin1 wrote:
looking at ro16....
do you guys not understand how seeding works and why it exists or are you just stupid
Edit:
Nuime wrote:
The map Chihara Minori - Kyoukai no Kanata for nomod is unavailable for download ;-;
help
Edit: I've gotten the map now from here
I hope for the link in the Round of 16 to be fixed ;w;
Added the Bloodcat link to the main post and thank you Bacon for providing the link before I got to it ^^ Didn't realize the beatmap wasn't available for download anymore.Bacon wrote:
Alright guys, so Chihara Minori - Kyoukai no Kanata isn't available for download.
Here is Bloodcat link: https://bloodcat.com/osu/s/129077
so
why do you force ppl in #25k-#10k to read AR10 consistently in a tournament for fun?
And your response to captin clearly shows that you didn't get the point of his comment lol
why do you force ppl in #25k-#10k to read AR10 consistently in a tournament for fun?
And your response to captin clearly shows that you didn't get the point of his comment lol
I think you might be missing the point here. o:Tehron wrote:
The ro16 matches are based on the amount of points the teams scored in the Group Stage (which reflects the team's performance better than the actual seed given before group stage imo) and this is why there are low seeded teams going against high seeded.captin1 wrote:
looking at ro16....
do you guys not understand how seeding works and why it exists or are you just stupid
Seeding for single elimination after round robin/group stages should reset and be based on the team record during group stages. If we go by your criteria on seeding for the Ro16 brackets, you guarantee that your tournament loses half of their best performing Group Stage teams by putting all the first seeded teams who made it out of the group stages against each other, and the second seeded teams against each other.
Give the above, this means that the team "pls enjoy game", who went an astounding 3-0/3-0/3-0 in their matches faces the other team who also went undefeated with the same record in all the maps they played, "Broke a slider", will face off each other in the Round of 16, right after getting out of Group Stages? The current method doesn't make any sense to me for the following reasons:
- The two best performing teams in the tournament so far (Group Stages) will NEVER get to face each other in the finals.
- Half of the 1st place teams from the Group Stages are guaranteed eliminated from the tournament after Ro16, without needing to play out a match to know that.
- Given that half of the 1st place teams from the Group Stages are eliminated after Ro16, the 2nd seeds from Groups get an "easier" chance to get into the Quarterfinals when the 1st place teams eliminate themselves from the tournament.
- This method does not reward winning, or else that would mean if I want an easy way to get into Quarterfinals, I would just match fix and guarantee myself into a second seed so I can face another second seed and get into the Quarterfinals.
- Provided with the above points, the narrative of the finals would be less entertaining because you've guaranteed that there will be a 50/50 split between 1st and 2nd seeded teams in the Quarterfinals, and being closer to the finals, there's more on the line than being in Round of 16 but you've already eliminated half of the other 1st seeded teams from contention, so the fact that the 2nd seeds got to the Quarterfinals without beating a 1st seed doesn't improve the narrative. People are going to say "oh, they just got an easy way into the finals". In addition, at least one of the best performing team in the tournament who went 3-0 without losing a single map has been eliminated and "pls enjoy game" and "Broke a slider" would never meet in the finals.
- Having the 1st seeded team out of group stages facing a 2nd seed team that cannot be in the same group as the 1st seed.
- No two teams from the same group are allowed on the same bracket.
- The two best 1st seeded teams should be on separate brackets to guarantee that there is potential to meet in the finals.
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This is the kind of feedback I was expecting if someone was to comment on the Ro16 match ups and not what I got from captin1 and Okoratu.Giralda wrote:
I think you might be missing the point here. o:Tehron wrote:
The ro16 matches are based on the amount of points the teams scored in the Group Stage (which reflects the team's performance better than the actual seed given before group stage imo) and this is why there are low seeded teams going against high seeded.
Seeding for single elimination after round robin/group stages should reset and be based on the team record during group stages. If we go by your criteria on seeding for the Ro16 brackets, you guarantee that your tournament loses half of their best performing Group Stage teams by putting all the first seeded teams who made it out of the group stages against each other, and the second seeded teams against each other.
Give the above, this means that the team "pls enjoy game", who went an astounding 3-0/3-0/3-0 in their matches faces the other team who also went undefeated with the same record in all the maps they played, "Broke a slider", will face off each other in the Round of 16, right after getting out of Group Stages? The current method doesn't make any sense to me for the following reasons:OWC and osu! All-stars, as well as all other competitive sport and video game tournaments would seed a Round of 16 out of Group Stages by:
- The two best performing teams in the tournament so far (Group Stages) will NEVER get to face each other in the finals.
- Half of the 1st place teams from the Group Stages are guaranteed eliminated from the tournament after Ro16, without needing to play out a match to know that.
- Given that half of the 1st place teams from the Group Stages are eliminated after Ro16, the 2nd seeds from Groups get an "easier" chance to get into the Quarterfinals when the 1st place teams eliminate themselves from the tournament.
- This method does not reward winning, or else that would mean if I want an easy way to get into Quarterfinals, I would just match fix and guarantee myself into a second seed so I can face another second seed and get into the Quarterfinals.
- Provided with the above points, the narrative of the finals would be less entertaining because you've guaranteed that there will be a 50/50 split between 1st and 2nd seeded teams in the Quarterfinals, and being closer to the finals, there's more on the line than being in Round of 16 but you've already eliminated half of the other 1st seeded teams from contention, so the fact that the 2nd seeds got to the Quarterfinals without beating a 1st seed doesn't improve the narrative. People are going to say "oh, they just got an easy way into the finals". In addition, at least one of the best performing team in the tournament who went 3-0 without losing a single map has been eliminated and "pls enjoy game" and "Broke a slider" would never meet in the finals.
I would like to propose the above criteria for the new seeding, with respect to the amount of points the teams earned in group stages. The seeding done to set the groups should not have any merit in the seeding for Round of 16.
- Having the 1st seeded team out of group stages facing a 2nd seed team that cannot be in the same group as the 1st seed.
- No two teams from the same group are allowed on the same bracket.
- The two best 1st seeded teams should be on separate brackets to guarantee that there is potential to meet in the finals.
I humbly thank you Giralda for giving this amount of constructive feedback! And to be honest I know the Ro16 match ups aren't the best and these sort of things are bound to happen since this is my first time hosting a tournament. Not saying I'm not at fault here but just pointing this out there.
I agree with Giralda and will rework the matches accordingly, this meaning there will be new schedules shortly after I finish with the Ro16 match ups. I also noted that you mentioned seeding to be reset after group stages and for Ro16 and onward it should be based on the team record during group stages. You also noted seedings in how other tournaments/competetive sport and video game tournaments would seed a Round of 16. I'm assuming you mean the new seedings in this latter part and not the Group Stage seedings, just putting this out there to clarify it for myself and perhaps for anyone else hosting a tournament.
Thank you Tehron for your understanding, but please don't hold it against captin and Oko. They were trying to help and I was the one who mentioned the problem to both of them originally. I hope you could pardon them for that.
For clarification, I do mean seeding in this latter part (Bracket stages) and not Group Stage seedings.
Just to make sure we're on the same page, the seeding order you used to organize the groups for Group Stage (High Seeded, Mid Seeded, Low Seeded, Unseeded) should have no affect in determining team matchups in Round of 16.
Hope that clarifies everything!
For clarification, I do mean seeding in this latter part (Bracket stages) and not Group Stage seedings.
Just to make sure we're on the same page, the seeding order you used to organize the groups for Group Stage (High Seeded, Mid Seeded, Low Seeded, Unseeded) should have no affect in determining team matchups in Round of 16.
Hope that clarifies everything!