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Mami Kawada - u/n [Taiko]

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-Tenshi-
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Joined March 2012
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Hi~

[Kantan]
  1. 00:06:859 (7,8,9) - Change to k d k, her voice is higher on 7 and 9, so k would fit more imo.
  2. 00:10:772 (12) - Try d here, imo it follow more the vocals.
  3. 00:14:685 (16,18) - Ctrl + G, highest pitch is on 16.
  4. 00:25:772 (28) - Having a k here would be better to follow the vocals.
  5. 00:38:815 (41) - Change to d for a better emphasis of this sound here 00:39:468 (42) -
  6. 00:49:250 (3) - k to follow the vocals.
  7. 01:00:337 (14) - ^.
  8. 01:04:250 (18,20) - Ctrl + G, do the same pattern as here 00:38:163 (40,41,42) - since it's the same sound.
  9. 01:23:815 (43) - k is better here.
  10. 01:25:120 (44,45) - Ctrl + G? i think it's better.
  11. 01:30:989 (52) - k.
  12. 01:36:859 (59) - ^.

[Futsuu]
  • All the following suggestion are changes to follow more the vocals
    1. 00:02:783 (4) - k.
    2. 00:03:598 (5) - d.
    3. 00:05:391 (9) - k.
    4. 00:06:859 (13) - ^.
    5. 00:07:511 (14) - d.
    6. 00:08:652 (17) - Move this note here 00:08:815 (17) - and change it to k.
    7. 00:10:772 (21,22,23) - Even if i understand why you did this, i suggest you to do something like this:
    8. 00:16:315 (33) - move this note here 00:16:152 (33) - and 00:16:641 (34) - here 00:16:478 (34) -
    9. 00:22:185 (46) - Move it here 00:22:022 (46) -
    10. 00:28:055 (60) - d.
    11. 00:51:859 (15) - ^.
    12. 00:58:381 (33,34) - Ctrl + G.
    13. 01:17:620 (87) - d and move 01:17:946 (88) - here 01:17:783 (88) -
    14. 01:23:489 (104) - k.
    15. 01:27:728 (116,117) - Ctrl + G.

    [Muzukashii]
    1. You forgot to uncheck widescreen support.
    2. 00:04:902 (11) - Move it here 00:04:739 (11) - ?
    3. 00:10:772 (30,31,32) - Same as futsuu, i suggest this to follow the vocals:
    4. 00:13:544 (41) - add a k here?
    5. add a d here 00:21:533 (66) - and move 00:22:185 (68) - here 00:22:022 (68) -
    6. 00:41:261 (143) - k here.
    7. 01:28:788 (186) - move it here 01:28:625 (185) -

    [Oni]
    1. 00:13:218 (41) - Sounds better with a d imo.
    2. 00:40:038 (89,90) - Ctrl + G.
    3. 00:51:044 (152) - d.
    4. 00:55:690 (178,179) - Ctrl + G.
    5. 01:09:141 (264) - d to constrat with 01:09:305 (265) - because 265 is a higher pitch. ( You did it here 01:11:424 (278,279,280,281) -and it's pretty much the same sound imo. )
    6. 01:21:696 (28) - d.

    I love shakugan no shana, i hope it's gonna get ranked, good luck~
qoot8123
1,500 posts
Joined March 2011
qoot8123
@-Tenshi-

everything is fixed expect 01:21:696 (28) -and 00:13:218 - i want to emphasize the vocal here.

thanks for good mod! :)

oni
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:u/n (Short Ver.)
Artist:Kawada Mami
ArtistUnicode:川田まみ
Creator:-Sh1n1-
Version:qoot8123's Oni
Source:灼眼のシャナⅢ-FINAL-
Tags:shakugan no shana III Insert Song qoot8123
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-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
-Sh1n1-
updated

I'll reply to the mod asap, thanks charlotte for star *-*/
Gemu-
1,015 posts
Joined October 2010
Gemu-
HOLA BAKA-SHINI :333!!! HE VUELTO! :D!!!

Me habías dicho que te moddeara un map, bueno aquí está :33

d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

[ Kantan]

01:34:250 (56) - Lo único que puedo decir es que le agregues in finish allí ya que la voz se entona fuerte y si escuchas bien se escucha como un finish.

[ Futsuu]

Excelente OwO

[ Muzukashii]

Shini se te olvidó quitar el Widescreen Support owo

Excelente OwO

[ qoot8123's Oni]

Excelent! :3

Muchas felicidades a los dos! de verdad que los felicito por este map *-* son muy buenos mappers :33
-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
-Sh1n1-
Thanks to Tenshi and baka-game rock for mods, I applied the most suggestions, let's revive this map :3
_kumakichi
43 posts
Joined June 2016
_kumakichi
hi

excellent map
but since "mods are really needed", I would be picky and raise some random suggestions here...
sorry for the short mod

futsuu
in general it is fine
but some beats in intro may be too hard to catch considering this being a futsuu
it might be more comfortable for futsuu players if patterns similar to that in kantan are used instead
00:01:968 (2) - del
00:02:294 (3) - d->k
00:02:946 (3) - k->d
00:05:391 (8) - move to 00:05:555 -
00:05:881 (9) - del
00:14:033 (26) - move to 00:13:544 -
00:14:359 (27) - del
00:15:337 (28) - d->k
00:16:968 (32) - del
00:22:185 (42) - move to 00:22:022 - , d->k
(above is an attempt to reduce difficulty)
muzu
in general this map is cool, but somehow not that "surprising" (?) as the patterns are quite repetitive
therefore I would suggest some changes in the 2nd chorus from 01:29:033 -
01:29:033 (188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197) - d k ddkd dk d k -> d k k kdk k ddk (as the background favours k on all 1/4 beats)
01:33:516 - add d (as this phase is at the peak (?) of the vocal)
01:39:631 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241) -

oni
a bit easy but cool
01:01:397 - add k. as i observed you left 4 1/2 beat in the beginning of previous patterns (01:08:815 (263,264,265,266) - these are good as supported by bg)
01:40:120 (152,153) - kkd->ddd. so as to emphasise the previous 2 ks. another suggestion is to replace this whole phase with that in muzu to unify the maps

this mod is short but it took me hours to find sth to write...
good luck
[ Erika ]
253 posts
Joined November 2014
[ Erika ]
Hi~ form my queue

[Kantan]
00:10:772 (12) - k
00:22:185 (25) - k
00:29:033 (32) - k
00:51:859 (6,7) - d k
01:32:946 (55) - k

[Futsuu]
00:22:185 (46) - k
00:29:033 (63) - k
00:48:598 (6,7,8) - k k d
00:52:511 (17) - k
01:32:946 (131,132) - k k

[Muzukashii]
00:06:859 (18) - k
00:22:185 (64) - k
00:49:250 (9,10) - k d
00:57:728 (45) - k
01:00:337 (56,57) - k d
01:32:946 (204) - k

[qoot8123's Oni]
00:09:468 (28) - k

Good one, Gambateh!
CSLM
1,058 posts
Joined May 2013
CSLM
YOU DIDN'T CALL ME!!!! D:
/me cries a lot
-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
-Sh1n1-
uwu it's an old map ;w; I'll call you on my next Taiko project <3
xtrem3x
1,781 posts
Joined July 2009
xtrem3x
Random Mods (Just Oni as requested)


General:

don = d
kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


Oni

  • 00:13:218 - Change this note to d .. if you follow vocal is more correct take focus in vocal tones than BG sound.

    00:14:685 (43,44) - possible ctrl+g ?

    00:29:033 - Add finish in this note .. have a discret cymbal sound combined with high vocal.

    00:33:843 - add d note here .. this drum roll feels incomplete.

    00:52:511 - Add finish in this note ... same as 00:29:033-
    00:55:120 - Same here but this is Questionable...
    01:05:555 - Same here ^
    01:10:772 - Same ^

    01:17:212 (10,11) - possible ctrl+g why in 01:17:294- sounds more "hollow"

    01:40:120 - better dkk k (?)
qoot8123
1,500 posts
Joined March 2011
qoot8123
@_kumakichi

01:01:397 - consider the vocal's articulation is very clear, so i want to use 1/2 to emphasis them

thanks for mod~ :)

@[ Erika ]

00:09:468 (28) - I know your point about this suggestion, you may feel the vocal and instrument's pitch is higher, but in my opinion, vocal's articulation is very strong on 00:08:815 (26,27) - ,but 00:09:468 (28) - isn't. and compare with the former paragraph on 00:05:881 (16,17,18,19,20) - the vocal's pitch on 00:06:859 (20) - is much higher than 00:09:468 (28) - ,so that is why I use d here


thanks for mod! :)

@xtrem3x

01:40:120 - changed to ddd d as _kumakichi addressed

00:13:218 - consider the vocal's articulation, it is similar with 00:13:544 (42) - ,also the pitch doesn't have obvious difference, so I want to keep k

00:29:033 - ,00:33:843 - ,00:52:511 - ,00:55:120 - ,01:05:555 - ,01:10:772 - I add finisher alternative ,00:55:120 - 01:05:555 -and 01:10:772 - may cause inconsistent with former finisher usage.

thanks for mod! :)

and I changed the patterns a bit by myself

Oni
osu file format v14

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-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
-Sh1n1-

_kumakichi wrote:

hi

excellent map
but since "mods are really needed", I would be picky and raise some random suggestions here...
sorry for the short mod

futsuu
in general it is fine
but some beats in intro may be too hard to catch considering this being a futsuu
it might be more comfortable for futsuu players if patterns similar to that in kantan are used instead I'm not sure tbhm I always care about spread and the current one looks fine
00:01:968 (2) - del I got the point, but as I said beforem I don't want to make a similar pattern as Kantan cause it will affect my spread
00:02:294 (3) - d->k too much k in a row
00:02:946 (3) - k->d I'm keeping consistency with 00:14:033 (28) -
00:05:391 (8) - move to 00:05:555 - why? I where following vocal all the time.
00:05:881 (9) - del Spread with Kantan ;w;
00:14:033 (26) - move to 00:13:544 - vocal one more time
00:14:359 (27) - del not necessary due spread
00:15:337 (28) - d->k why not? it will mark the difference between 00:14:685 (30,31,32) - and sounds good, nice catch, fixed
00:16:968 (32) - del Spread again
00:22:185 (42) - move to 00:22:022 - , d->k nope, high vocal pitch
(above is an attempt to reduce difficulty)
muzu
in general this map is cool, but somehow not that "surprising" (?) as the patterns are quite repetitive
therefore I would suggest some changes in the 2nd chorus from 01:29:033 -
01:29:033 (188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197) - d k ddkd dk d k -> d k k kdk k ddk (as the background favours k on all 1/4 beats) wow, sounds much better tbh, fixed
01:33:516 - add d (as this phase is at the peak (?) of the vocal) I'm emphasizing only drums with triplets, the diff will be overdone if I start to follow vocal with triplets
01:39:631 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241) - O.o what? I'll understand like if you love that pattern loool <3

this mod is short but it took me hours to find sth to write...
good luck
Thank you very much

[ Erika ] wrote:

Hi~ from my queue

[Kantan]
00:10:772 (12) - k Yeah I need to be agree with you cause dkd were too repetitive and your suggestion give me variation, fixed
00:22:185 (25) - k mmm this is very hard tbh, cause if I change to k, there will be too much k in a row on lower diffs, then if I keep as d, people will say that I'm not consistent with 00:21:207 (24) -, so, to avoid this kind of problems, I'll say that I'm following vocal to add variation on the pattern, thanks to point out
00:29:033 (32) - k cymbal sound pls, it deserve finish
00:51:859 (6,7) - d k first of all 00:52:511 - deserve finish and to add a good prelude to the next finisher I'll keep as a k the first note mentioned
01:32:946 (55) - k vocal sounds more as a d imo

[Futsuu]
00:22:185 (46) - k refer to kantan to avoid long answers
00:29:033 (63) - k cymbal sound, I'm not agree with you sorry
00:48:598 (6,7,8) - k k d no sorry 'cause 00:48:272 (5,6) - are too different, I'm following drums with k
00:52:511 (17) - k ohh cymbal once again
01:32:946 (131,132) - k k yeah, agreed with 132, fixed

[Muzukashii]
00:06:859 (18) - k nice catch, I didn't notice about it xd, fixed
00:22:185 (64) - k refer to Kantan
00:49:250 (9,10) - k d nope, first vocal and then drums
00:57:728 (45) - k cymbal is too obvious
01:00:337 (56,57) - k d same as 00:49:250 (9,10) -
01:32:946 (204) - k ohh I missed this drum sound uwu, thanks, fixed

Good one, Gambateh!
Thank you very much Erika

Also thanks for the reply qoot senpai :3 time to rank it!
Aloda
osu! Alumni
444 posts
Joined November 2011
Aloda
Hi. Random mod :D

Kantan
Compare your intro to the 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 section. The intro is filled with 2/1 while 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 is almost entirely 4/1 with the exception of two patterns. These should be reversed. Having the intro as 4/1 creates a nice effect as it transitions into the next section where, as the music gains more intensity, the harder 2/1 patterns are introduced. As it is, the flow of the map is very strange. Also, if you're mapping to the vocals, then you should move 00:22:185 (25) to 00:22:022.

I think the finishers you've used at 00:29:033 (32) - 00:52:511 (7) and 00:55:120 (9) feel very out of place. I can hear that there is a sound at these places but I don't think that it justifies using finishers like this. Consider removing them.

Like I said above, the 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 section should be mapped to be more dense than it is. Music wise, this section is more intense than the previous section yet you've mapped it with mostly 4/1, so the two sections don't transition well.

Futsuu
Like in the Kantan, I think you should reevaluate the intro. Decide whether you're going to map to the vocals or the guitar and stick to it. A lot of this section is very unintuitive because it's unclear what you're mapping to. Also, I think it would be fine for you to use a bit of 1/2 in this section, particularly if you choose to map to the vocals, just don't go overboard. Think about how it will flow into the next section and try to make the transition as natural as possible.

In the 00:23:815 - 00:34:250 you seem to be switching between mapping the drums and the vocals a lot. I would strongly suggest changing this to follow only the drums, since it has a nice and simple beat that's strong and intuitive to play, though if you want to follow the vocals more closely instead that's fine too, but I don't think that changing between them like this works well.

The following section at 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 has a similar issue. You've mapped to the vocals up until 00:37:185 where you've switched to mapping the drums for the rest of the section. I suggest changing the start so that the whole section is mapped to follow the drums.

This same pattern continues throughout the map. It's very jarring and awkward to play. You need to make sure you're consistent about what you're mapping to throughout the diff.

Muzukashii
The intro's pretty good in this diff, but I think that 00:17:946 should look like this
since you're mapping to the guitar.

This diff is much the same as the Futsuu. You have a weird mix of mapping the vocals and the drums which is very strange to play. I strongly suggest going through and changing your map so that you're consistently mapping to the drums or to the vocals and not both.
Sorry if I came off as a bit harsh :? I think that if you can fix these structural issues then you'll have a pretty good map :D Good luck!
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Joined May 2011
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here is the M4M as agreed.

[General]

Do you have any official source to support the use of "(Short Ver.)" in the song title ?

  • [Kantan]

    Consider OD3 ? 2 would be too lenient imo.
    Base SV could be 1.4 as the song bpm is not very high.
  1. 00:04:902 (5,6) - swapping these notes to k d would fit the vocal well.
  2. 00:24:468 - add k and 00:25:446 - add d for a better spread with Futsuu ?
  3. 00:28:381 (31) - moving this note to 00:27:076 - would result in a better flow if you apply ^
  4. 00:29:685 - 00:30:011 and 00:30:989 - add k for the same reason as 00:24:468 - ?
  5. 00:34:902 - 00:37:511 and 00:37:837 - same as ^
  6. 00:39:468 (42) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  7. 00:41:424 - add d , then 00:42:728 and 00:43:707 - add k for the spread's sake again ?
  8. 00:47:946 - add k and 00:48:924 - add d ? Same as 00:24:468 -
  9. 00:51:859 (6) - same as 00:28:381 (31) -
  10. 00:53:163 - 00:54:468 and 00:54:794 - similar to 00:29:685 - , you may add k at these spots.
  11. 00:57:076 - add d and 00:57:402 - add k ? Futsuu uses 1/2 notes, so it would be much better to add some 1/1 notes here.
  12. 01:02:294 and 01:02:620 - same as 00:29:685 -
  13. 01:02:946 (17) - same as 00:39:468 (42) -
  14. 01:06:207 - add d, then 01:07:185 and 01:07:511 - add k ? Muzukashii is quite hard here, so you should increase note density.
  15. 01:08:163 (22) - maybe add finish as you did in Futsuu ?
  16. 01:10:120 and 01:10:446 - add d to reduce the gap with Futsuu ?
  17. From 01:15:337 to 01:16:641 - try dkd k instead of k kd for a smoother flow ?
  18. 01:17:946 (50) - move to 01:19:250 - to increase note density in the kiai ?
  19. 01:22:185 - you may add k here again for the spread.
  20. 01:27:402 - 01:32:620 - 01:34:902 and 01:35:228 - same as ^
  21. 01:29:359 and 01:29:685 - k and d could be added respectively to improve the spread with Futsuu.
  22. 01:30:337 (68,69) - consider swapping these notes to k d as you did at the first kiai ?
  23. 01:33:598 (74,75) - maybe d k as you did at 01:23:163 - ?
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, you may try OD4 here.
  1. 00:08:815 (17) - maybe k to accompany the relatively high-pitched vocal ?
  2. 00:28:055 (60) - move to 00:27:728 - so that the break would sound more natural.
  3. 00:30:663 - you may add k here to connect the pattern.
  4. 00:38:489 (89) - move to 00:38:163 - and change to d ? Same reason as 00:28:055 (60) -
  5. 00:39:468 (93) - same as Kantan
  6. 00:42:728 (102) - move to 00:42:076 - , then change 00:42:402 (102) - to k to follow the break pattern at 00:40:120 - ?
  7. 00:51:533 (14) - move to 00:51:207 - and change to d ? Same as 00:28:055 (60) -
  8. 00:51:859 (15) - k would be better for consistency if you apply ^
  9. 00:54:141 - same as 00:30:663 -
  10. 01:02:946 (46) - same as Kantan
  11. 01:04:902 and 01:05:555 - add d, then delete 01:05:881 (53) - ? The note density is too similar to Kantan.
  12. 01:06:859 and 01:07:022 - add d, then 01:07:674 - add k ? The difficulty gap with Muzukashii is too wide here.
  13. 01:12:402 (71,72,73,74,75) - kkk k d instead of k d kkk ? This would sound cooler to play and more consistent with the notes in this session.
  14. 01:17:131 (86) - move to 01:17:294 - , then add d at 01:17:783 - to reduce the gap with Muzukashii ?
  15. 01:19:576 (92) - consider moving this note to 01:19:739 - to follow the vocal ?
  16. 01:21:533 (97) - maybe k here for snare consistency ?
  17. 01:25:120 (109) - move to 01:25:283 - and add k at 01:25:446 - to enhance pattern variety ?
  18. 01:27:402 (115,116,117,118) - try k ddd instead of ddk d ? This would fit the drums well.
  19. 01:28:707 - add d here for a better spread with Muzukashii ?
  20. 01:36:370 - same as ^
  21. 01:38:489 and 01:38:978 - you may add k at these spots to balance the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:07:511 (19) - d would fit the drop in vocal pitch well.
  2. 00:34:087 (108) - this note could be deleted to reduce the gap with Futsuu.
  3. 01:02:946 (67) - same as Kantan
  4. 01:03:272 (68) and 01:03:761 (70) - these notes could be deleted for a 2/1 break. Currently the pattern chain is rather long from 00:53:163 to 01:40:446 -
  5. 01:23:326 (161) - I think k would accompany the vocal nicely.
  • [qoot8123's Oni]
  1. 00:47:131 (126) - maybe k to fit the cymbal sound there ?
  2. 01:25:120 (50) - consider moving this note to 01:25:283 - to follow the break pattern at 01:19:902 and 01:21:859 - ?
You should pay more attention to the difficulty spread... :o
Just call me back after fixing the issues mentioned above.
-Sh1n1-
3,402 posts
Joined September 2012
Topic Starter
-Sh1n1-

Aloda wrote:

Hi. Random mod :D

Kantan
Compare your intro to the 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 section. The intro is filled with 2/1 while 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 is almost entirely 4/1 with the exception of two patterns. These should be reversed. Having the intro as 4/1 creates a nice effect as it transitions into the next section where, as the music gains more intensity, the harder 2/1 patterns are introduced. As it is, the flow of the map is very strange. Also, if you're mapping to the vocals, then you should move 00:22:185 (25) to 00:22:022. Agreed about structure, I did some changes with Nardo's mod and looks better tbh, about 00:22:185 (25), instrument is more prominent, my mapping style is not based on instrumental or vocal only, I like to add a second purpose on each note, that means, if I decide to put k there should be drums and vocal should acompanny it very well.

I think the finishers you've used at 00:29:033 (32) - 00:52:511 (7) and 00:55:120 (9) feel very out of place. I can hear that there is a sound at these places but I don't think that it justifies using finishers like this. Consider removing them. more than agree tbh, I feel this diff overloaded with finishers

Like I said above, the 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 section should be mapped to be more dense than it is. Music wise, this section is more intense than the previous section yet you've mapped it with mostly 4/1, so the two sections don't transition well. yep, it was fixed with Nardo's mod

Futsuu
Like in the Kantan, I think you should reevaluate the intro. Decide whether you're going to map to the vocals or the guitar and stick to it. A lot of this section is very unintuitive because it's unclear what you're mapping to. Also, I think it would be fine for you to use a bit of 1/2 in this section, particularly if you choose to map to the vocals, just don't go overboard. Think about how it will flow into the next section and try to make the transition as natural as possible. hopefully is fine now

In the 00:23:815 - 00:34:250 you seem to be switching between mapping the drums and the vocals a lot. I would strongly suggest changing this to follow only the drums, since it has a nice and simple beat that's strong and intuitive to play, though if you want to follow the vocals more closely instead that's fine too, but I don't think that changing between them like this works well. mmm not agree, as I said about my mapping style I like to give second purpose to my notes.

The following section at 00:34:250 - 00:44:685 has a similar issue. You've mapped to the vocals up until 00:37:185 where you've switched to mapping the drums for the rest of the section. I suggest changing the start so that the whole section is mapped to follow the drums.

This same pattern continues throughout the map. It's very jarring and awkward to play. You need to make sure you're consistent about what you're mapping to throughout the diff. okie

Muzukashii
The intro's pretty good in this diff, but I think that 00:17:946 should look like this
since you're mapping to the guitar. but it will break my consistency, also guitar isn't prominent with the firsts 3 notes

This diff is much the same as the Futsuu. You have a weird mix of mapping the vocals and the drums which is very strange to play. I strongly suggest going through and changing your map so that you're consistently mapping to the drums or to the vocals and not both. Okie, I'll try to improve my mapping style uwu
Sorry if I came off as a bit harsh :? I think that if you can fix these structural issues then you'll have a pretty good map :D Good luck!
hey no problem, thank you very much for your opinions, it helped me a lot and I'm sure that I'll make a better map next time with your suggestions

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the M4M as agreed. Hi

[General]

Do you have any official source to support the use of "(Short Ver.)" in the song title ? Nope, I put it because there was an old std map ranked with such name, but I found the correct metadata and everything should be ok now

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:39:468 (42) - I think you may have missed the finish here? re-worked finishers uwu
  2. 00:51:859 (6) - same as 00:28:381 (31) - same as above
  3. 01:02:946 (17) - same as 00:39:468 (42) - finishers orz
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, you may try OD4 here. what do you think about 3.5? same OD as Muzukashii is a bit weird, also for for a better spread.
  1. 00:39:468 (93) - same as Kantan well literally you are right, but I decided to add finishers only at the beginning of new sections cause u know that there are lots of cymbal sounds and I don't want to enphasize everything. I hope you are agree with my decision
  2. 01:02:946 (46) - same as Kantan re-worked some finishers as I told u before, I hope you are agree
  3. 01:38:489 and 01:38:978 - you may add k at these spots to balance the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii. Agreed with the first one, but the second note sounds better at 01:38:815 - imo
You should pay more attention to the difficulty spread... :o uwu Okie desu
Just call me back after fixing the issues mentioned above.
Okie, I'll call u but first I'll mod your map uwu

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@Nardo

00:47:131 (126) - because the vocal's pitch is deeper ,so i only use kat on 00:46:641 (123,125) - to emphasize lighter vocal.

01:25:120 (50) - i know your point, but I consider the vocal's emphasis or ventilation , it is more like 01:23:815 (42,43) - ,also the vocal's wind up is slightly different compare with 01:20:065 (18,19) - so I want to keep this one ><.

thanks for mod! :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
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A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Tags: Remove "・" from "尾崎武士・中沢伴行" and use space instead

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:43:707 - add k for a better spread with Futsuu again ?
-Sh1n1-
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Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Tags: Remove "・" from "尾崎武士・中沢伴行" and use space instead ok

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:43:707 - add k for a better spread with Futsuu again ? that's true, fixed
Thanks for recheck Nardo senpai :3
Nardoxyribonucleic
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The set looks better with a more appropriate spread now. Patterns are generally consistent and there are enough breaks in lower difficulties.

Bubbled~
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Thank you Nardo senpai >.<
snowball112
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Heya,

Kantan
  1. I think you could move 00:25:446 (29,30) - forward by 1/1 so you have d dkd from 00:25:120 - , I think this would be nice for both instrument and vocal. Similar with 00:48:924 (4,5) .
  2. I think you could shorten 00:44:685 (1) - this spinner by 1/1 just to give a bit more space before the next section for beginners.
  3. It would probably be better to remove 01:20:555 - and 01:30:989 - to give a break before the change in spacing at 01:21:207 for example. This would also work well for the next point:
  4. Change 01:19:902 - to d and add a k on 01:19:576 - . 01:19:902 - sounds poor as k because the guitar is lower and the strong vocal is on 01:19:576 - and 01:19:739. Similar at 01:29:685 - .

Futsuu
  1. 00:01:968 - remove. This otherwise implies that there should be a note on 00:02:620.
  2. 00:18:272 - remove.
  3. Move 00:33:435 - to 00:32:783 - and change to d, and 00:56:913 - to 00:56:261 - as well for consistency with the way you mapped before.

The other diffs look fine imo.
I also think that the kiai gap does not fit well in this song, a single long kiai would be better.

You may call me back~
-Sh1n1-
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snowball112 wrote:

Heya,

Kantan
  1. I think you could move 00:25:446 (29,30) - forward by 1/1 so you have d dkd from 00:25:120 - , I think this would be nice for both instrument and vocal. Similar with 00:48:924 (4,5) . Ohh, nice catch, fixed
  2. I think you could shorten 00:44:685 (1) - this spinner by 1/1 just to give a bit more space before the next section for beginners. ok, fixed
  3. It would probably be better to remove 01:20:555 - and 01:30:989 - to give a break before the change in spacing at 01:21:207 for example. This would also work well for the next point: I got it, but after apply it, the SR up and I prefer to keep my current pattern to keep a proper Icon on page (Is important to me) also vocal is prominent at 01:20:555 - and deserve note imo
  4. Change 01:19:902 - to d and add a k on 01:19:576 - . 01:19:902 - sounds poor as k because the guitar is lower and the strong vocal is on 01:19:576 - and 01:19:739. Similar at 01:29:685 - . same as above, I don't want to increase the SR cause everyting have a good spread, hope you understand uwu

Futsuu
  1. 00:01:968 - remove. This otherwise implies that there should be a note on 00:02:620. but it have a really good spread right now, also I'm following vocal here
  2. 00:18:272 - remove. consistency with my previous reply
  3. Move 00:33:435 - to 00:32:783 - and change to d, and 00:56:913 - to 00:56:261 - as well for consistency with the way you mapped before. But drums are prominent here uwu, I really want to keep uwu

The other diffs look fine imo.
I also think that the kiai gap does not fit well in this song, a single long kiai would be better. from 01:28:381 - to 01:29:033 - feels like the intensity decrease a bit, so kiai's break it's fine imo

You may call me back~
Thanks for your mod <3
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Qualified~
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congrats!
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yay, Thank you guys~~ ♥
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hello~ congratz :)
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Deux en un <3
gz~ :D
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OMG! *O* Congrats Baka :33! :oops:
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Thank u very much guys~ *o*/
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omg this bg lol


it's cool if u wanna use my bg but at least tell me lol i would be more than happy to make another one for you too o/
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uwu sorry, I took the first shana's BG I found in osu, also I liked it so much and I didn't think twice :'( I'll put your name is description, Thanks for this awesome BG
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