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Yuki Hsu - Wo Shi Nv Sheng [CatchTheBeat]

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-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 10:45:51 AM

Artist: Yuki Hsu
Title: Wo Shi Nv Sheng
Tags: 徐怀钰 Xu Huai Yu Dyl-Byl
BPM: 85.1
Filesize: 1593kb
Play Time: 01:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Cup (1.13 stars, 78 notes)
  2. Dylan's Salad (1.61 stars, 112 notes)
  3. Platter (2.71 stars, 200 notes)
  4. Rain (3.92 stars, 235 notes)
Download: Yuki Hsu - Wo Shi Nv Sheng
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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OH-LEH OH-LEEEHH OH
Put this map in the graveyard for now, i feel like i need more experience before trying to rank Rain and Platter+ stuff. Thank you so much to everyone who modded it, i'll definitely revive this someday

Thank you
Inspiration taken from Hollow Wings' map

Thank you Dyl-Byl for making the Salad difficulty

Thank you Ascendance, Tyrell x2, CLSW, Examination, Dyl-Byl, pieguyn, Chara, koliron, Jusenkyo, JBHyperion, lidahapi, Electoz and BoberofDarkness x2 for modding.
Last edited by -rage , edited 31 times in total.
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
Can I make a difficulty. If so which mode? Which difficulty.
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage

dylanla12 wrote:

Can I make a difficulty. If so which mode? Which difficulty.
Salad. Between 1.50-2.25 stars perferably
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
ok.
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
i meant to say catch the beat diff lol.
and thanks
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
asdf
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
The salad is almost done.
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
It's all done. NOT!
Unfinished stuff
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62509
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
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WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:Wo Shi Nv Sheng
TitleUnicode:ÎÒÊÇÅ®Éú
Artist:Yuki Hsu
ArtistUnicode:Yuki Hsu
Creator:klonoa
Version:Dylan's Salad
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

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OverallDifficulty:5.4
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Good luck getting it ranked.
P.S. If there are any mistakes or mods, pls edit for me. Thank you.
Last edited by Qiyana , edited 2 times in total.
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
Well here it is. The real final one.
Finally finished
osu file format v14

[General]
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Countdown: 0
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BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Wo Shi Nv Sheng
TitleUnicode:ÎÒÊÇÅ®Éú
Artist:Yuki Hsu
ArtistUnicode:Yuki Hsu
Creator:klonoa
Version:Dylan's Salad
Source:
Tags:
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Like I said, good luck getting it ranked.
And edit just in case for mistakes
Last edited by Qiyana , edited 1 time in total.
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,252 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
Yo o/ I'll mod here after school tomorrow! Don't update without me :)
Yuii-
2,501 posts
Joined July 2013
Yuii-
The legendary quad post.
Qiyana
1,590 posts
Joined April 2014
Qiyana
I decided to mod.
Cup
00:01:875 (1) - Even though it's right, the offset sounds wrong. And add finish hitsound.
00:10:688 (4) - NC this.
00:15:271 (3) - The clap doesn't sound quite right. Doesn't match in the pattern.
00:18:091 (5,6,1) - Put the 6 farther from 5 and 1.
00:21:616 (1) - The spinner is unnesscary.
00:24:436 (1) - Add finish on the beginning.
00:30:077 (1,2,3,4) - The 2 and 4 circles are neccesary.
00:32:897 (5) - NC this and add finish on the beginning.
00:34:307 (6,7,8) - These circles don't sound right and match the earlier pattern of sliders.
00:41:358 (1) - Add finish on the beginning of the slider.
00:42:768 (2,3,4) - These don't go well and the placement should be different.
00:44:178 (5) - NC this.
00:46:998 (1) - Add finish on beginning and clap on the end.
00:52:639 (1,2,3) - Putting sliders this close at a time like that isn't okay.
00:55:459 (4) - NC this.
01:04:624 (2) - NC this.
01:06:739 (5) - NC this.
01:08:149 (6,1) - The reverse arrows don't match earlier patterns.
01:09:560 (1) - Add finish on the beginning.
01:18:020 (5) - NC this and add finish on the beginning.
01:20:841 (7) - NC and finish hitsound this.
01:22:251 (1) - Add finish on the end.
I'm not really in the mood to mod anything hard now so I guess this is bye.
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage

dylanla12 wrote:

I decided to mod.
Cup
00:01:875 (1) - Even though it's right, the offset sounds wrong. And add finish hitsound. no finish to beginning of combos. any other suggestions similiar to this will be ignored
00:10:688 (4) - NC this. doesn;t need to
00:15:271 (3) - The clap doesn't sound quite right. Doesn't match in the pattern. i like it how it is, if someone else mentions it then i'll change it.
00:18:091 (5,6,1) - Put the 6 farther from 5 and 1. Alright
00:21:616 (1) - The spinner is unnesscary. i like it D:
00:24:436 (1) - Add finish on the beginning.
00:30:077 (1,2,3,4) - The 2 and 4 circles are neccesary. neccesary of what?
00:32:897 (5) - NC this and add finish on the beginning. Added NC, but no finish.
00:34:307 (6,7,8) - These circles don't sound right and match the earlier pattern of sliders. they don't need to? unless someone else points this out, i won;t change it
00:41:358 (1) - Add finish on the beginning of the slider.
00:42:768 (2,3,4) - These don't go well and the placement should be different. pretty vague explanation lol. i'll come up with something maybe
00:44:178 (5) - NC this.
00:46:998 (1) - Add finish on beginning and clap on the end.
00:52:639 (1,2,3) - Putting sliders this close at a time like that isn't okay. keeping this unless someone else suggests it.
00:55:459 (4) - NC this. ok
01:04:624 (2) - NC this. ok
01:06:739 (5) - NC this. doesn't need to
01:08:149 (6,1) - The reverse arrows don't match earlier patterns. doesn't need to?
01:09:560 (1) - Add finish on the beginning.
01:18:020 (5) - NC this and add finish on the beginning. NC, but no finish
01:20:841 (7) - NC and finish hitsound this. i'll let the last combo finish, lol
01:22:251 (1) - Add finish on the end alright.
I'm not really in the mode to mod anything hard now so I guess this is bye.
Thanks for your mod!
Tyrell
425 posts
Joined July 2014
Tyrell
This is a m4m mod.

General
  1. I still feel like the timing is weird since this was taken from a set ranked a while ago but oh well

Cup
Opening thoughts: Really easy, plays simple despite the timeline being a bit weird and inconsistent imo.
  1. 00:31:487 (3,4) - Would recommend moving this further to the right, where it is now seems awkward and not enough movement
  2. 00:42:768 (2,3,4) - this needs movement. maybe something like 00:34:307 (2,3,4) -
  3. 00:35:717 (1,1) - also let it be noted that the break here could possibly be filled
  4. 00:46:998 (1,3) - angle these sliders because keeping them vertical is dull
  5. 00:53:344 (2) - Ctrl+h and move to x:368 for a more suiting pattern than the one before. Seemed too tedious and awkward
  6. 00:55:459 (4) - Ctrl+g for more movement but you may wanna move 00:57:574 (5,6) - a bit closer
  7. 01:06:739 (1) - NC here
  8. 01:09:560 (1) - Ctrl+h and move to x:352 for a better suitting flow for a cup
  9. 01:12:380 (1) - spinner doesn't fit, should just keep mapping like normal
  10. 01:21:546 (4) - Ctrl+h for a better finish.
Song Setup Recommendations:Kinda late and hard to fix now, but don't use such a high SV for a cup next time. It doesn't fit although it should be fine here

Closing Thoughts: Good and simple cup. About as simple as it gets.

Salad
Opening thoughts: This salad is quite easy and simple. It isn't bad just a bit dull but it fits the mood of the song i guess.
  1. 00:25:846 (4) - would replace this with a 1/2 slider and have a small dash to a circle instead of a repeat here. Vocals call for a dash
  2. 00:43:120 (5) - I feel this should be broken into 2 hitcircles and have a dash because of the vocal emphasis.
  3. 00:54:048 (3) - this should be a hit circle and have it dash to the vocal instead of a slider covering it all
Song Setup Recommendations: none really
Closing Thoughts: I feel like this diff is too consistent in distancing. Little jumps needed dash and some jumps didn't fit the actual emphasis of the music despite being heavy vocal cue. I would make the jumps fit the vocals since it's the main thing in this song.

Platter
Opening thoughts: Feels a bit forced. Some of this seems a bit overpatterned and has awkward flow. Overall I would recommend fixing the patterns to play for a more simple flow instead of the constant left right flow you got now. That is my main dislike with this diff
  1. 00:03:285 (1,2,3,4) - the movements here ar really awkward. Not hard but awkward, make it flow easier with simple left to right but have dashes accent the music emphasis
  2. 00:04:695 (1,2,3) - these shouldn't be standstill, add movement and a dash to the last note or something interesting
  3. 00:06:105 (5) - Hyper or at least dash into this please.
  4. 00:06:986 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole section just seems tedious, really try to find the rhythm of the song rather than what seems to be random note placement.
  5. The timeline used for this diff just really feels awkward and not suited to match the vocal emphasis and such for proper dashing. I would highly recommend taking a second look at this timeline and trying to use sliders and circles in a way that gives you the ability to dash to emphasized notes and such better than this one. This one seems to follow a very little movement left right shimmy pattern through a good majority of the song. Also a lot of the distancing is quite awkward to play. It's not large enough to feel like a proper dash but not small enough to feel like a proper walk. I would find a good overall distancing to use and stick to it so the jumps and overall flow of the map feels more consistent than it is now. It is playable but it's awkward and isn't enjoyable. Also 1.9 SV is too high for a platter and I feel it gives the sliders the awkward feel I can't get over. I normally use low SV like 1.5 or 1.6 for platter since it fits and gives sliders a nice glide to them for easy flow. I know the BPM is low but that also means the SV and overall movement should be kinda slow on the sliders in my opinion. The weird anti flow on patterns such as 00:38:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - create unnecessary difficulty and don;t feel like platter patterns but watered down Rain patterns. Anti flow patterns such as these should be kept to minimum and only used one every once in a while so it isn't just overall pointlessly difficult and weird. 01:04:095 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - patterns such as these are just way too hard for Platter despite the SR saying it's easy. They are tedious and quite frankly overdone. Keep it simple and don't use high spacing unless a dash is intended. Don't use decently high spacing consistently like 01:08:502 (6,7,8,9,10,11) -
Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: Not trying to be rude or disrespectful but this diff needs quite a bit of work, and should be checked over thoroughly starting with the timeline. Timeline seems a bit heavy for little reason at times with 1/2 sliders everywhere when this is a platter and shouldn't call for such heavy noting on a mild song for the most part. After that take into account spacing and try to keep a steady easily walkable flow aside from obvious dashes on emphasis such as vocals.

Rain
Opening thoughts:Very similar situation to the Platter. This is way too hard and overpatterned. The spacing for almost everything is too high and is that of an Overdose despite the SR saying it's close to a rain SR. The patterns are pretty okay for the most part but the spacing on a lot of things is too high and creates a very tight play and little room for error which it shouldn't be so high for a rain. I personally think this rain doesn't fit the spread of the song as well. Too hard. Should just leave it a cup to platter set imo. Though if you want to have a rain, make it easier. way easier. Use less hypers and more dashing where it seems fit. use way smaller spacing but keep the movement high. Also 2.24 is crazy high SV and isn't needed at all. Reduce this to 1.8 or so.
[list:1337]Song Setup Recommendations: Reduse AR and OD to 9, no need for 9.3. Most rains use ar9 or lower.
Closing Thoughts: This needs a lot of work as well. I would go through the patterns and reduce the spacing quite a bit and keep in mind the flow when hypers are thrown. You must give the player decent room for error on hypers and jumps on tricky patterns on rains.

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set. :)
-rage
425 posts
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Topic Starter
-rage
no reply = fixed

Tyrell wrote:

This is a m4m mod.

General
  1. I still feel like the timing is weird since this was taken from a set ranked a while ago but oh well

Cup
Opening thoughts: Really easy, plays simple despite the timeline being a bit weird and inconsistent imo.
  1. 00:31:487 (3,4) - Would recommend moving this further to the right, where it is now seems awkward and not enough movement
  2. 00:42:768 (2,3,4) - this needs movement. maybe something like 00:34:307 (2,3,4) -
  3. 00:35:717 (1,1) - also let it be noted that the break here could possibly be filled i feel like a break here is necessary, also since this part is like more slow and it's background noises, and then it picks up again. the breaks feels good there. If someone else mentions it, i will fill it.
  4. 00:46:998 (1,3) - angle these sliders because keeping them vertical is dull
  5. 00:53:344 (2) - Ctrl+h and move to x:368 for a more suiting pattern than the one before. Seemed too tedious and awkward
  6. 00:55:459 (4) - Ctrl+g for more movement but you may wanna move 00:57:574 (5,6) - a bit closer i don't know if you meant to put 5 and 6 closer to each other, or to the (4). I just both moved them closer to the (4) but the distances from eachother is no change.
  7. 01:06:739 (1) - NC here
  8. 01:09:560 (1) - Ctrl+h and move to x:352 for a better suitting flow for a cup
  9. 01:12:380 (1) - spinner doesn't fit, should just keep mapping like normal
  10. 01:21:546 (4) - Ctrl+h for a better finish.
Song Setup Recommendations:Kinda late and hard to fix now, but don't use such a high SV for a cup next time. It doesn't fit although it should be fine here I honestly don't remember setting a High SV for this diff ;w;

Closing Thoughts: Good and simple cup. About as simple as it gets.

Salad
Opening thoughts: This salad is quite easy and simple. It isn't bad just a bit dull but it fits the mood of the song i guess. well it's an easy-ish difficulty, so yes, it is dull.
  1. 00:25:846 (4) - would replace this with a 1/2 slider and have a small dash to a circle instead of a repeat here. Vocals call for a dash
  2. 00:43:120 (5) - I feel this should be broken into 2 hitcircles and have a dash because of the vocal emphasis.
  3. 00:54:048 (3) - this should be a hit circle and have it dash to the vocal instead of a slider covering it all
Song Setup Recommendations: none really
Closing Thoughts: I feel like this diff is too consistent in distancing. Little jumps needed dash and some jumps didn't fit the actual emphasis of the music despite being heavy vocal cue. I would make the jumps fit the vocals since it's the main thing in this song. Will keep in mind for futher editing/mods

Platter
Opening thoughts: Feels a bit forced. Some of this seems a bit overpatterned and has awkward flow. Overall I would recommend fixing the patterns to play for a more simple flow instead of the constant left right flow you got now. That is my main dislike with this diff
  1. 00:03:285 (1,2,3,4) - the movements here ar really awkward. Not hard but awkward, make it flow easier with simple left to right but have dashes accent the music emphasis
  2. 00:04:695 (1,2,3) - these shouldn't be standstill, add movement and a dash to the last note or something interesting ...i'll think about it. I put this in this diff and on the rain diff. Also, i ((totally didn't copy this from the standard mapset)) loved the idea of having just the stacked notes on the LALALALALA. Maybe with further modding i'll change it, or change it on my own.
  3. 00:06:105 (5) - Hyper or at least dash into this please.
  4. 00:06:986 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole section just seems tedious, really try to find the rhythm of the song rather than what seems to be random note placement. Tedious? probobly not in my opinion. Trying to find the rhythm? I suppose i could come up with something else.
  5. The timeline used for this diff just really feels awkward and not suited to match the vocal emphasis and such for proper dashing. I would highly recommend taking a second look at this timeline and trying to use sliders and circles in a way that gives you the ability to dash to emphasized notes and such better than this one. This one seems to follow a very little movement left right shimmy pattern through a good majority of the song. that was kind-of the point in this diff. i just wanted to try something different and somewhat gimmicky to play. But i can see what you're trying to say, maybe i put too much into it and not much thoughts.
    Also a lot of the distancing is quite awkward to play. It's not large enough to feel like a proper dash but not small enough to feel like a proper walk. 8-) totally not a professional answer i know, but i personally like this way. Maybe i'll change it over-time or i'll come up with something that's not so awkward
    I would find a good overall distancing to use and stick to it so the jumps and overall flow of the map feels more consistent than it is now. It is playable but it's awkward and isn't enjoyable. Also 1.9 SV is too high for a platter and I feel it gives the sliders the awkward feel I can't get over.uhmm i tried to give it a 1.5 SV and the sliders don't change? So, i don't see the problem here, the sliders are a good distance that's not too far to dash it.
    I normally use low SV like 1.5 or 1.6 for platter since it fits and gives sliders a nice glide to them for easy flow. I know the BPM is low but that also means the SV and overall movement should be kinda slow on the sliders in my opinion. The weird anti flow on patterns such as 00:38:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - create unnecessary difficulty and don;t feel like platter patterns but watered down Rain patterns.ok i'll give it to you on that one, will change it
    Anti flow patterns such as these should be kept to minimum and only used one every once in a while so it isn't just overall pointlessly difficult and weird. 01:04:095 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - patterns such as these are just way too hard for Platter despite the SR saying it's easy. They are tedious and quite frankly overdone. Keep it simple and don't use high spacing unless a dash is intended. Don't use decently high spacing consistently like 01:08:502 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - i'll try to come up with something :P
Song Setup Recommendations: none wut
Closing Thoughts: Not trying to be rude or disrespectful but this diff needs quite a bit of work, and should be checked over thoroughly starting with the timeline. Timeline seems a bit heavy for little reason at times with 1/2 sliders everywhere when this is a platter and shouldn't call for such heavy noting on a mild song for the most part. After that take into account spacing and try to keep a steady easily walkable flow aside from obvious dashes on emphasis such as vocals.

Rain
Opening thoughts:Very similar situation to the Platter. This is way too hard and overpatterned. The spacing for almost everything is too high and is that of an Overdose despite the SR saying it's close to a rain SR. The patterns are pretty okay for the most part but the spacing on a lot of things is too high and creates a very tight play and little room for error which it shouldn't be so high for a rain. I personally think this rain doesn't fit the spread of the song as well. Too hard. Should just leave it a cup to platter set imo. I do not agree with this. If i didn't do the Rain difficulty, there would be no set of this song. This diff is what sparked my idea of trying to complete a set of my own. And i'm keeping it. I'm willing to do major changes to this (if there would be enough mods for it). But i don't want to make it really "easier" or remove it.
Though if you want to have a rain, make it easier. way easier. Use less hypers and more dashing where it seems fit. use way smaller spacing but keep the movement high. Why make a Rain difficulty easier? There's plenty of really difficlt ranked Rain diffs out there. and just because mine has a lot of jumps and such, it should made to be easier? i don't agree with this. I would be willing to do some changes, but what's the fun of having no fun jumps in a Rain.
Also 2.24 is crazy high SV and isn't needed at all. Reduce this to 1.8 or so. True on that, i don't know what i was thinking, and i kinda don't want to ruin the whole diff so i'll keep it for now ;w;
[list:1337]Song Setup Recommendations: Reduse AR and OD to 9, no need for 9.3. Most rains use ar9 or lower.
Closing Thoughts: This needs a lot of work as well. I would go through the patterns and reduce the spacing quite a bit and keep in mind the flow when hypers are thrown. You must give the player decent room for error on hypers and jumps on tricky patterns on rains.
Since you didn't really point out anything in this diff, i won't change anything. Maybe i'll make changes of my own soon, or wait for further modding

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set. :)
Thanks for modding
CLSW
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CLSW
[Rain]
00:02:756 (5,6) - This HDash seems really meaningless for me, the part isn't needed with the difficulty increase.(Since the atmosphere of background music isn't enough) I highly recommend to avoid to use just an ordinary jump.
00:03:814 (4,5) - ^
00:36:951 (4,5) - Pixel jump isn't recommended to use for all modern CtB specific diffs, please decrease the distance or add HDash on (4).
00:37:480 (6,7) - ^
00:44:178 (1,2) - ^
00:57:574 (5,6) - ^
01:03:038 (1,2) - ^, totally unexpected one.

Overall this difficulty is kinda solid, but not more, not less.
Only I can see is repetitive left and right movements and it looks like kinda lack of pattern usages in my sight. This won't effect on your rank progress, but I hope you have to learn more various types of patterns for your further maps.

[Platter]
00:20:911 (4,5) - Probably you forgot to add HDash here lol, check (4)'s end.
01:10:970 (1,2,3) - How about to use slider instead? I think this point needs some movements. Try to use 01:10:088 (3) - .
01:20:135 (4) - Pixel jump here again, try to add HDash.

Salad and Cup seems fine, I won't touch them. Good luck!
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
Fixed everything!
Yumeno Himiko
Elite Storyboarder
1,168 posts
Joined August 2012
Yumeno Himiko
Hello as requested :)
omg it's a Chinese song :P and it's really old XD


[General]
Artist: 徐懷鈺
Source: 徐怀钰Yũki
Tags: 徐怀钰 Xu huai yu

Set combo colors
consider more hitsounds :)

[Cup]
looking fine

[Dylan's Salad]
00:09:983 (4) - sounding like a absurd finish? please remove it ww and also there are some useless finishes throughout this diff.
You can add some claps like what's in Rain diff.
00:22:674 (2) - heading right will feel better
00:29:372 (5) - drag a straight slider. heading left or right depends on you
00:57:574 (2) - make it a 3/4 slider

[Platter]
00:02:580 - no sound here, really need a jump? :?
00:22:674 (2) - cancel the reverse, add a note at 00:23:026 and make a small jump
00:46:117 (5) - It will be better if you move this a bit left
00:48:937 (4) - same as ^ you can create more fluent flows

[Rain]
00:12:098 (1,2) - no need to place 2 at the tail of 1
00:22:850 (6,7) - HDash ww
00:47:879 (3) - move it left
00:55:459 (1) - ^
01:09:560 (7) - move right
01:21:722 (3,4) - HDash

good luck on ranking this map~
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
Green = i'll think about it
Red = no change

examination wrote:

Hello as requested :)
omg it's a Chinese song :P and it's really old XD


[General]

Source: 徐怀钰Yũki i don't think there's a source? on the Ranked std mapset, there's no indication of a source there



consider more hitsounds :) i think my hitsounds are pretty good, but i defenitly want to keep them consistant throughout each diffs. i don't want to add too much too, it doesn't seem necessary
[Dylan's Salad]
00:22:674 (2) - heading right will feel better makes it a little too easy that way i find
00:57:574 (2) - make it a 3/4 slider is it even allowed to do that? i'll change it for now but if someone else points out that the 3/4 doesn't fit i'll change it according to their point

[Platter]
00:22:674 (2) - cancel the reverse, add a note at 00:23:026 and make a small jump i feel like the reverse slider works well with the background noise at this time...but i'll keep in mind the point you gave.

good luck on ranking this map~
Everything else fixed except for the points mentioned by me. Thank you for your mod!!!!
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
suggestion, only change if you feel like it
should fix
unrankable

[Rain]
00:02:580 (4,5,6) - this jump is very large and difficult to play. imo, either reduce the distance, or move (6) left a few grids so that HDash is added.
00:04:695 (1,2,3) - same position on these notes is kinda boring imo. what about making it go to the left?
00:07:691 (3,4,5) - same idea as 00:04:695 (1,2,3) ... more movement here is needed imo
00:08:220 (1) - ctrl+G imo. make the change in direction more natural, and also "out->out->in->in" make more sense pattern than
00:21:263 (5) - ctrl+G flow better imo.
00:57:926 (7,8) - this jump doesn't fit vocal well imo. imo you could easily move (8) to x256.
01:14:847 (6,7) - i believe this... http://puu.sh/m0WdQ/4cae406b35.jpg fits your rhythm better (circle->slider->slider), and also places more emphasis on vocal at 01:14:847
01:23:661 (1) - this would feel good stacked on 01:22:251 (4) , imo.

diff is solid, and not too "jump everywhere" like so many CTB maps are.

[Platter]
00:21:263 (5,6) - jump seems unexpected and large for Platter diff.
00:43:473 (7) - imo would feel good if it was c/p from (6): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4160152 don't forget fix spacing after
00:52:638 (1,2) - same idea as 00:43:473 (7) . example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4160158
01:10:970 (1,2,3) - same idea from Rain. more movement here would be more fun imo.

[Dylan's Salad]
01:20:840 (4,1) - shouldn't distance be greater to match with others? like 01:20:840 (4,1) - 01:09:207 (6,1) - etc.

[Cup]
fine

good luck >w<
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage

pieguyn wrote:

suggestion, only change if you feel like it
should fix
unrankable

[Rain]
00:04:695 (1,2,3) - same position on these notes is kinda boring imo. what about making it go to the left? those were intentionally put there, i took a little bit of inspiration from the standard mapset and i quite liked that idea of that patern.
01:23:661 (1) - this would feel good stacked on 01:22:251 (4) , imo. seems a bit dull that way.

[Platter]
00:52:638 (1,2) - same idea as 00:43:473 (7) . example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4160158 really wanted to put a HDash there, so no change
01:10:970 (1,2,3) - same idea from Rain. more movement here would be more fun imo. didn't even realize those were stacked, thanks for noticing

good luck >w< thank you :D
Qiyana
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Joined April 2014
Qiyana
BTW, my name is not dylanla12 anymore, it's Dyl-Byl
Please Change.
Bunnrei
1,044 posts
Joined May 2011
Bunnrei
hum

[Rain]
  1. 01:08:326 (4,5) - Try making this a hyper.
  2. 01:09:560 (7) - Move this to the right.

    a good rain owo

[Platter]
  1. 00:03:990 (3,4,1) - This kind of flow is hard for a Platter imo, try reducing spacing.

[Salad]
  1. This diff uses tickrate 2 unlike the other difficulties, suggest changing it to 1 for set consistency.

cup has no issue ^^
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage

Ster wrote:

hum

[Rain]
  1. 01:08:326 (4,5) - Try making this a hyper. i think it's fine without
Other than that, fixed all. Thanks for your input :))))
Qiyana
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Joined April 2014
Qiyana

Dyl-Byl wrote:

Like I said, good luck getting it ranked.
And edit just in case for mistakes/mods!
koliron
791 posts
Joined July 2014
koliron
irc
2016-01-09 19:18 klonoa: if you want to mod my beatmap?
2016-01-09 19:18 koliron: mh? o.o
2016-01-09 19:18 koliron: o
2016-01-09 19:18 koliron: what map
2016-01-09 19:18 klonoa: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/370778
2016-01-09 19:18 klonoa: doesn't have to be IRC
2016-01-09 19:19 klonoa: and idk if you had a queue or whatnot
2016-01-09 19:19 koliron: oh 85 of bpm XD
2016-01-09 19:19 koliron: yeah sure
2016-01-09 19:19 klonoa: lol
2016-01-09 19:19 klonoa: thanks :D
2016-01-09 19:19 koliron: you can irc? because i have a lot of req and i need clean that :w;
2016-01-09 19:19 klonoa: mmmm okay :P
2016-01-09 19:20 koliron: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/813710 Yuki Hsu - Wo Shi Nv Sheng [Cup]]
2016-01-09 19:20 koliron: i see that you follow the voice 00:06:458 (7,8) - here
2016-01-09 19:21 koliron: so i think you can understand that 00:05:047 (5,6) - feels weird
2016-01-09 19:21 koliron: im my opinion are better if you put these notes in 00:04:695 - and00:05:400 - 
2016-01-09 19:21 koliron: also if you like other in 00:06:105 - 
2016-01-09 19:22 klonoa: ohhhh
2016-01-09 19:22 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 19:23 klonoa: i think before someone pointed it out, i put the offset in the negative just like the ranked mapset did
2016-01-09 19:23 klonoa: and the notes would be on red tics
2016-01-09 19:23 klonoa: and it made sense
2016-01-09 19:23 klonoa: but now i changed it
2016-01-09 19:23 koliron: 00:12:098 (5,6) - the sound in (6) is really strong! in my opinion deserves more distance, obviously not a dash because is a cup, but sonething like x 192 feels better for me
2016-01-09 19:24 klonoa: fixed
2016-01-09 19:25 koliron: if you added 00:15:271 (3) - clap in that tail, why not in 00:16:681 (4) - ? maybe are not EXACTLY same sounds, but feels weird without
2016-01-09 19:26 klonoa: i feel like it's fine without
2016-01-09 19:26 klonoa: the song feels slow enough at this part that it should only show up every like 2 large white tics
2016-01-09 19:26 klonoa: or something like that
2016-01-09 19:26 koliron: 00:18:091 (5,6,1) - also here, i think use consistent distance is not necessary, especially in cups because have less notes as all, is recommendable vary more, and 00:18:796 (1) - is more strong than the others, you can use a bit more distance to highlight that
2016-01-09 19:26 koliron: its fine xD
2016-01-09 19:27 koliron: btw sorry for my bad english
2016-01-09 19:27 klonoa: it's ok! i understand what you say
2016-01-09 19:27 koliron: haha
2016-01-09 19:27 klonoa: changed previous point
2016-01-09 19:29 koliron: 00:18:796 (1,2) - in 85 of bpm 1/1 is a lot of time, you can add some more distance, even is almost unnecesary move the ryuuta to catch the head of (2)
2016-01-09 19:29 klonoa: ok sure
2016-01-09 19:30 koliron: 00:34:307 (2,3,4) - same suggestion as 00:18:091 (5,6,1) - 
2016-01-09 19:30 klonoa: changed
2016-01-09 19:30 koliron: equally if is part of your style its fine
2016-01-09 19:30 koliron: oki
2016-01-09 19:31 klonoa: i only like when the notes are equal when it's a line
2016-01-09 19:31 klonoa: zig zags are fine
2016-01-09 19:31 klonoa: unless distance is remaquably bad
2016-01-09 19:33 koliron: 01:02:509 (1) - hum, to be honest just feels weird, because yeah, there are an instrument sound since 01:02:509 - but in game is not possible to listen, for the finish hitsound, i suggest follow the voice, that start in 01:02:862 - of in 01:03:214 - if you prefer
2016-01-09 19:33 koliron: also is recomendable remove that finish
2016-01-09 19:33 klonoa: so remove long slider?
2016-01-09 19:34 koliron: oh
2016-01-09 19:34 klonoa: dont even know why that was at the beginning
2016-01-09 19:34 koliron: you use the finish in all of that slider
2016-01-09 19:34 klonoa: yeah
2016-01-09 19:34 koliron: i prefer only in 01:03:919 - because is the real finish in my opinion
2016-01-09 19:35 koliron: yeah i think slider since 01:03:214 - and maybe note in 01:02:862 - feels better
2016-01-09 19:36 klonoa: i put the slider start at 01:02:862 -
2016-01-09 19:36 koliron: yipi
2016-01-09 19:36 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 19:37 klonoa: ok i added note like you said, i like it  like that actually
2016-01-09 19:37 koliron: i think 01:12:380 (1) - need a clap in the tail (01:13:085 - ) to be consistent with 01:11:675 (3) - 01:08:149 (2) - 01:09:560 (1) - etc
2016-01-09 19:37 koliron: same in 01:13:790 (2) - 
2016-01-09 19:38 klonoa: i guess i forgot to add it oops
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: 01:13:790 (2,1) - 
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: why you do that short distance?
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: o.o
2016-01-09 19:41 klonoa: idk
2016-01-09 19:41 klonoa: lol
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: is one of the more strong sound in all of the song
2016-01-09 19:41 klonoa: will change
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: oki
2016-01-09 19:41 koliron: ok no more in the cup
2016-01-09 19:42 koliron: before the salad
2016-01-09 19:42 koliron: in the song setup
2016-01-09 19:42 klonoa: in cup or salad?
2016-01-09 19:42 koliron: of all
2016-01-09 19:42 klonoa: oh ok
2016-01-09 19:43 koliron: i suggest add "I Am A Girl" in tags because is the english name of the song
2016-01-09 19:43 klonoa: hmmmm
2016-01-09 19:44 koliron: also the artist is "徐怀钰", [https://inmymelody.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/i-am-a-girl-yuki-hsu-aka-xu-huaiyu/ source]
2016-01-09 19:44 koliron: you can copy the artist here xD
2016-01-09 19:44 klonoa: i only took the information from the ranked mapset
2016-01-09 19:44 klonoa: so i should keep it
2016-01-09 19:44 klonoa: ?
2016-01-09 19:44 koliron: and obviously add "Yuki Hsu" in tags
2016-01-09 19:44 koliron: oh
2016-01-09 19:44 koliron: wait
2016-01-09 19:45 koliron: jan 2014 xD
2016-01-09 19:45 koliron: huh, for now add 徐怀钰 in tags
2016-01-09 19:46 klonoa: wait
2016-01-09 19:46 klonoa: i did
2016-01-09 19:46 klonoa: add that
2016-01-09 19:46 klonoa: didn't you see it?
2016-01-09 19:46 koliron: lol
2016-01-09 19:46 koliron: im dumb :)
2016-01-09 19:47 klonoa: lol its ok
2016-01-09 19:47 klonoa: but i think i fixed tags problem
2016-01-09 19:47 klonoa: will update later
2016-01-09 19:47 koliron: idk sorry i need much time to do a good mod of the setup xD thats all for now
2016-01-09 19:47 koliron: oh and not forget add combocolours
2016-01-09 19:48 klonoa: is it necessary?
2016-01-09 19:48 koliron: yes
2016-01-09 19:48 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 19:48 klonoa: i've been thinking of changing the background image maybe
2016-01-09 19:48 koliron: oh
2016-01-09 19:48 klonoa: so then i could have better combo colors
2016-01-09 19:48 koliron: dylan's salad
2016-01-09 19:49 koliron: not forget add his/her name in tags
2016-01-09 19:49 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 19:50 koliron: ok
2016-01-09 19:50 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 19:50 koliron: go for the salad or platter?
2016-01-09 19:50 klonoa: salad
2016-01-09 19:50 koliron: ok
2016-01-09 19:50 koliron: rip dylan
2016-01-09 19:50 klonoa: dylan told me i can make changes for him
2016-01-09 19:51 koliron: 00:07:515 - why not a circle here?
2016-01-09 19:51 koliron: has an instrument and voice sound
2016-01-09 19:52 koliron: huh but
2016-01-09 19:52 klonoa: ok sure
2016-01-09 19:52 koliron: oh, nothing
2016-01-09 19:52 koliron: forgot forgot
2016-01-09 19:52 koliron: sadasdd
2016-01-09 19:53 klonoa: ay
2016-01-09 19:54 koliron: 00:08:925 (3,4) - this dash is not really necessary, i cant hear an strong sound, dash in salad has same importance as hypers on platter
2016-01-09 19:54 koliron: only for really strong sound
2016-01-09 19:54 klonoa: ok sure
2016-01-09 19:54 koliron: like 00:12:098 (1,2) - this, dash here its fine but woo! is really strong for a salad
2016-01-09 19:55 klonoa: fixed
2016-01-09 19:55 koliron: especially because the head of (2) is in the wall
2016-01-09 19:55 koliron: ok
2016-01-09 19:56 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 19:56 koliron: 00:15:271 (4,1) - a dash here would be nice, but around here are a lot of dash, maybe some sounds like 00:15:271 (4) - not really deserves it
2016-01-09 19:56 koliron: i suggest reduce the distance to (4) and add to 1
2016-01-09 19:56 koliron: also just a ctrl+g in (4) fix all
2016-01-09 19:56 koliron: xD
2016-01-09 19:57 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 19:58 koliron: in my opinion 00:17:033 (3) - the sound in 00:17:386 - deserves more distance, is the same as above like 00:15:976 (1) - , i suggest reaplce that slider with 2 notes and add a convencing dash
2016-01-09 19:58 koliron: same 00:21:263 (4) - here
2016-01-09 19:58 koliron: and 00:35:365 (5) - here
2016-01-09 19:59 koliron: and 01:09:207 (6) - here lol
2016-01-09 19:59 koliron: im irritant i know
2016-01-09 20:00 klonoa: lol
2016-01-09 20:00 klonoa: fixed
2016-01-09 20:00 koliron: xD
2016-01-09 20:00 klonoa: ((i think i fixed))
2016-01-09 20:00 koliron: 01:16:963 (4,1) - the really start of the stanza is in 4, i prefer if the nc is there
2016-01-09 20:01 klonoa: start nc at 4?
2016-01-09 20:01 koliron: yeah and remove in the next
2016-01-09 20:01 klonoa: but then the previous combo is too short D:
2016-01-09 20:02 koliron: its fine lol
2016-01-09 20:02 koliron: really is 4
2016-01-09 20:02 klonoa: ok changed
2016-01-09 20:02 koliron: because has slider
2016-01-09 20:02 koliron: no more of this diff, i not want to change all because is not your diff
2016-01-09 20:02 koliron: go platter
2016-01-09 20:04 koliron: i see that you not add notes 00:02:580 - and 00:02:756 - here, its fine because follow all of these sound would be much for a platter, but to be consistent i suggest remove 00:03:990 (3) - because are the same sounds
2016-01-09 20:05 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 20:05 koliron: 00:05:929 (4,5) - this dash is a bit strong in my opinion, something like (5) in 208 feels better
2016-01-09 20:06 koliron: also with that you add distance between 00:06:105 (5,1) - 
2016-01-09 20:06 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 20:06 koliron: for the voice, the sound in 00:07:691 (3) - is not really listenable
2016-01-09 20:07 koliron: is recommendable remove that note
2016-01-09 20:07 klonoa: i think it's fine?
2016-01-09 20:07 klonoa: just a empty space here doesn't feel well
2016-01-09 20:07 koliron: mh
2016-01-09 20:08 koliron: ok if you prefer
2016-01-09 20:08 klonoa: :P
2016-01-09 20:09 koliron: 00:15:271 (4,5,6) - are the first hypers and are 2 really close
2016-01-09 20:09 klonoa: they're too close?
2016-01-09 20:09 koliron: i suggest only add hyper to (6) and use a strong dash to (5)
2016-01-09 20:09 koliron: huh bad english
2016-01-09 20:09 koliron: i mean there are in fow
2016-01-09 20:09 klonoa: ok i see
2016-01-09 20:10 klonoa: changed
2016-01-09 20:11 koliron: 00:16:328 (1,2,3,4) - the postions are fine but the double jump 00:16:328 (1,2,3) - just feels weird ): maybe can be better if you ctrl+h in 00:16:328 (1,2) -  and then in x 352
2016-01-09 20:12 klonoa: alrioght
2016-01-09 20:12 koliron: 00:18:267 (7,8) - dash here would be nice to highlight the voice
2016-01-09 20:13 koliron: 00:28:667 (5,6,7,8,9) - its easy to miss 00:28:843 (6) - or 00:29:019 (7) - , because is a hard jump
2016-01-09 20:14 koliron: the hyper to 00:29:372 (9) - its good but in my opinion is recommendable reduce the distance to /7)
2016-01-09 20:14 koliron: btw sorry if my mods are long ;w,
2016-01-09 20:14 klonoa: its ok lol
2016-01-09 20:16 koliron: until here there are not much hypers, in my opinion 00:34:659 (3,1) - is a good time to add
2016-01-09 20:17 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 20:17 koliron: 00:36:951 (4,1) - woo! test that, is almost a pixel jump D:
2016-01-09 20:17 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 20:18 koliron: 00:44:883 (2,3) - dash here would be nice following the voice
2016-01-09 20:19 klonoa: ok
2016-01-09 20:20 koliron: 00:52:638 (1,2) - hyper wall to wall is not recommendable, even in an overdose, is frustrating and too hard, especially for a platter, is highly recommendable reduce a lot the distance, obviously keep the hyper
2016-01-09 20:22 klonoa: i cant make a hyperdash there but i made a jump and whatnot
2016-01-09 20:23 koliron: oh ok, and the final suggestion here, 01:02:685 (1,2,3,4) - these hyper feels weird, is because the real strong sounds are in 01:03:214 - and in 01:03:567 - 
2016-01-09 20:23 koliron: try to replace these sldiers with circles and add hyper to 01:03:214 - and to 01:03:567 - 
2016-01-09 20:24 koliron: ~o.o~ tell me when you finsh and go for the rain, i need eat in some mins
2016-01-09 20:25 klonoa: i personally like it as it is
2016-01-09 20:25 klonoa: but i'll try something if i get there
2016-01-09 20:25 klonoa: and i'm done for this one
2016-01-09 20:25 koliron: oko
2016-01-09 20:26 klonoa: Rain is shit
2016-01-09 20:26 klonoa: btw'
2016-01-09 20:26 koliron: why? 
2016-01-09 20:26 koliron: o:
2016-01-09 20:26 klonoa: idk, i've just grown to not like it
2016-01-09 20:26 koliron: :x
2016-01-09 20:26 koliron: ok, the first
2016-01-09 20:26 klonoa: anyways, lol
2016-01-09 20:27 koliron: oh but
2016-01-09 20:27 koliron: not forget that you can just remove the rain if you not like that D:
2016-01-09 20:27 klonoa: yeah, i could
2016-01-09 20:27 koliron: ok the first
2016-01-09 20:28 koliron: 00:01:875 - since here is not recomendable add hyper, that part is too calm
2016-01-09 20:28 koliron: but if you prefer add
2016-01-09 20:28 koliron: i suggest add to 00:03:637 (3) - 
2016-01-09 20:29 koliron: because is the same sound as 00:02:932 (6,3) - 
2016-01-09 20:29 koliron: ou
2016-01-09 20:29 koliron: ;w;
2016-01-09 20:29 koliron: my time is ended
2016-01-09 20:29 klonoa: alright
2016-01-09 20:30 koliron: finish here? because idk if i can play more in the night
2016-01-09 20:30 klonoa: yeah sure, maybe we can finish tomorrow or some other time
2016-01-09 20:30 koliron: ^^
2016-01-09 20:31 klonoa: yayy
2016-01-09 20:31 klonoa: thanks for your help!!
Xinely
5,014 posts
Joined April 2012
Xinely
omg this song
我是男生
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage

Xinely wrote:

omg this song
我是男生
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cowboy
472 posts
Joined November 2011
Cowboy


As requested from my Queue~



[General]
  1. BG Size; 1365x768, change to 1366x768 xD i know 1 pixel more
  2. Need Combo Colours:
    46,17,48
    174,152,174
  3. The kiai time's, should end just as they did in the Rain , I mean that this followed
  4. Keep the combo,
    Not exceeding more than 10

[Cup]



Nice Cup~

[Dylan's Salad]
00:54:401 (4) - The slider ends 00:55:106 here~00:55:459 (1) - x: 32000:57:574 (2) - x:195,00:58:279 (3) - x: 175

Nice diff~

[Platter]


Fine to me ~

[Rain]

  1. 00:47:351 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The hyper dashes are not neccesary here
  2. 00:49:642 (9) - x:385
  3. 00:52:639 (1,2,3,4) - The same case mentioned in the beginning
  4. 01:04:096 (5,6,7,8) - ^
  5. 01:07:091 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - ^
  6. 01:09:736 (1,2) - ^
  7. 01:15:376 (1,2) - ^
  8. 01:18:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
  9. 01:21:017 (1,2) - ^

To much hdashes, no are necesary because don't have a great sound or stronger to need it, or emphasis

It's all for me, i hope help you, nice map and song, Good luck! :D
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
jusenkyo's mod

Jusenkyo wrote:



As requested from my Queue~



[General]
  1. BG Size; 1365x768, change to 1366x768 xD i know 1 pixel more really >.<
  2. Need Combo Colours:
    46,17,48
    174,152,174
  3. The kiai time's, should end just as they did in the Rain , I mean that this followed i changed the kiai time in all the diffs but i don't know if i changed them like youn inteded them to be changed ;w;
  4. Keep the combo,
    Not exceeding more than 10

[Cup]



Nice Cup~

[Dylan's Salad]
00:54:401 (4) - The slider ends 00:55:106 here~ ok good00:55:459 (1) - x: 320 makes it a little too easy that way i find.00:57:574 (2) - x:195,00:58:279 (3) - x: 175 moved them a little to the left, but not as much as mentionned

Nice diff~

[Platter]


Fine to me ~

[Rain]

  1. 00:47:351 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The hyper dashes are not neccesary here tried making something a little different while removing a few hyperdashed, idk if those are as you wanted but i tried changing it
  2. 00:49:642 (9) - x:385 i actually removed a note from this combo while changing stuff from your first point oops
  3. 00:52:639 (1,2,3,4) - The same case mentioned in the beginning
  4. 01:04:096 (5,6,7,8) - ^those feel fine for me since it's the start of the background vocals and the finish noise, but willing to change it if someone else wants me to.
  5. 01:07:091 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - ^ ok changed
  6. 01:09:736 (1,2) - ^ i think i wanna keep hyperdash when background vocals kick in, no change for now
  7. 01:15:376 (1,2) - ^ same as above
  8. 01:18:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ok changed
  9. 01:21:017 (1,2) - ^no changes for now

To much hdashes, no are necesary because don't have a great sound or stronger to need it, or emphasis
i do agree with what you say, but while fixing this currently, i realized that i could make great hyperdash jumps that goes with the background vocals and keep the rest a resonnable distance from each notes. if someone else doesn't like it i'll try to come with a agreement and willing to change the "overdone" parts.

It's all for me, i hope help you, nice map and song, Good luck! :D

very helpfull mod!! thank you!
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion
As promised.

General Comments:

  1. Song Folder: So despite what the ID3 tag says your current mp3 actually has a quality below 128kbps which is unrankable. I couldn't find a decent source for the song with higher quality unfortunately - did you get this from the ranked map? Also, background image is 1365x768. I know you're only missing one column of pixels, but if you could find a 1366x768 BG, that'd be great
  2. Song Setup: Will discuss for each diff individually since I have a spread concern
  3. Metadata: No issues (assuming the ranked version is correct in this regard)
  4. Timing: No issues
  5. Hitsounds: You have no hitsounds for some sections of the song, e.g. between 00:01:875 and 00:06:986 which leaves sections feeling very bland and underemphasized. You can use whistles as well as claps and finishes to provide more subtle hitsounding in this regard, which will compliment the song rhythms and make the map much more interesting to play
  6. AImod: No issues
Difficulty-Specific Comments:


Cup
  1. AR/OD4 is really low for a CtB diff, even at low BPM like this. I'd suggest raising these to 5
  2. 01:15:200 (1,2) - This spacing is really unexpected and will be very difficult for a beginner to catch. Suggest moving (2) to somewhere like x-416
  3. 01:15:200 (1,3,1,2) - All of these sliders are oriented towards the right, which feels a little repetitive. You could make 01:18:020 (1) a "C"-shaped slider moving left initially (for example) to add some more variety
Some spacings seem a little inconsistent, but there's no reason to be nitpicky with them right now. Otherwise, solid diff.

Dylan's Salad
  1. If you increase AR/OD of Cup to 5, Raise them to 6.5 on this diff to balance the gap between Cup and Platter. Also, I'd use HP5, since Cup is HP4 and Platter is HP6
  2. This diff can be FCed with only two dashes, so it presents a serious spread issue. I highly recommend adding some spacing to the more prominent notes (which I will list some of below) to bring the difficulty of this up a bit
  3. 00:04:695 (1,3) - These are both strong vocal notes on the border of requiring dash, making them confusing to read. Try increasing the distance to each of these slightly so that it's obvious dash is required
  4. 00:12:803 (2) - Please don't map sliderends to strong downbeats like this, it really reduces the emphasis. Replace this slider with two circles with a dash between them
  5. 00:17:738 (4,5) - Increase spacing to create a dash here, consistency with 00:15:271 (4,1) - you even used a finish hitsound here so this should definitley have more emphasis
  6. 00:21:263 (4) - Same as 00:12:803 (2)
  7. 00:22:674 (2) - ^
  8. 00:25:846 (4,5) - Spacing here can be increased slightly to highlight the need to dash. It's a little confusing to read at the moment
  9. 00:28:667 (4,5) - ^
  10. 00:31:134 (3,4,5) - Double dash would fit nicely here for the strong vocal sounds if you move (4) slightly to the left
  11. 00:35:365 (5) - Same as 00:12:803 (2)
  12. 00:43:120 (4,5) - Same as 00:25:846 (4,5)
  13. 00:45:940 (5,6) - Why is spacing so low here when this is one of the stronger notes in this section? Jumps should be between 00:45:235 (3,4) and/or 00:45:940 (5,6) - for the stronger vocals, not 00:44:178 (1,2,3)
  14. 00:46:293 (6) - Remove repeat, replace with a circle on the downbeat and add dash to this, same reasoning as Same as 00:12:803 (2)
  15. 00:54:048 (3,4) - Same as 00:25:846 (4,5)
  16. 01:03:919 (1,2) - ^
  17. 01:08:149 (4,5) - ^
  18. 01:09:207 (6) - Same as 00:25:846 (4,5) - swap 01:08:855 (5,6) on the timeline so you have slider>circle instead
  19. 01:12:380 (6,1) - Swap NC to maintain a consistent 4 beat NC pattern as you've used throughout the diff, and also to keep combo length sensible
  20. 01:14:847 (3) - Same as 01:09:207 (6)
  21. 01:15:553 (1,2) - Same as 00:12:803 (2)
  22. 01:22:251 (3) - ^
These are just some very basic suggestions to get your diff into a more fitting place relative to the expected difficulty and the spread of the set in general. It's up to you how to implement these suggestions whilst developing your own style

Platter
  1. 00:02:403 (3,4) - This intor section is so calm, I would avoid using antiflow here as it doesn't compliment the music. Having (4) face left instead would provide a smoother flow that plays better in my opinion
  2. 00:03:813 (2,3) - ^, you can optionally flip 00:04:342 (4) to make a / \ pattern if you want to keep other spacings as they are now
  3. 00:12:979 (3) - I'd separate these into two circles so you can make a small jump between them, since the tail of (3) is the first strong downbeat note in the song
  4. 00:20:911 (4,5,6) - Previous hyperdash placements suggest the hdash should be between (5,6) rather than (4,5). Suggest changing to this for consistency in hypering to the downbeat
  5. 00:22:674 (2) - Same as 00:12:979 (3)
  6. 00:37:127 (1,2) - Hyper doesn't really fit here imo, (2) is a really weak beat on a red tick. A normal dash would fit better here
  7. 00:40:476 (5,1) - More spacing to the strong vocal sound would be nice here
  8. 00:55:459 (4) - NC here please, this combo gets really long and leads into a spinner, which will cause a lot of fruit to pile up on the plate and obstruct the player's view
  9. 00:57:926 (8,9) - More spacing here would be good to emphasize the vocal sound and finish the section
  10. 01:03:743 (4,5) - Considering (5) is the strong downbeat and the most prominent note in this section, I find it really odd that you decided to hyper pretty much everything except this lol. Moving 01:03:390 (3) to x-208 and 01:03:919 (5) to x-144 plays better and is more fitting to the rhythm
  11. 01:04:448 (2) - Separate this into two circle, or swap 01:04:448 (2,3) on the timeline, since you really want to be emphasizing the strong white tick vocal sound with a dash of some sort
  12. 01:07:092 (2) - Why hyper to this? It's a really weak note and feels very forced. If you were going to hyper to anything in this section it would be 01:07:444 (3) for the drum sound, but I feel regular dashes would fit the calmness of this measure better
  13. 01:14:671 (5,6) - Hyper to a blue tick feels really weird to play, especially when you have very little movement to the actual strong downbeat sound. Try adding a repeat to (5) and replacing (6) with a circel on the downbeat, and add hdash to it
  14. 01:18:373 (2,3,4) - Double hdash feels really excessive here, the second hdash to (4) doesn't really fit since there's no one strong sound here. I'd remove this one and replace with a regular dash for the accented vocal "rrrr"
  15. 01:20:840 (6,3) - Spacing to these can be increased for the strong vocal sounds to add some emphasis to the climax of the song
Generally plays fine, although I find some of the rhythm choices in the kiai a little strange

Rain
  1. Are you sure about AR/OD9 here? At this BPM it feels way too fast, and even when you're using 1/4 it can be difficult to plan movements to upcoming notes. I'd recommend something a little lower, like 8.5
  2. 00:02:756 (5,6) - 00:03:637 (3,4) - The intro is so calm, adding hdashes is really unnecessary. Regular dashes would fit better here
  3. Rearranging this to circle > 2 sliders allows you to dash to the strong vocal sounds on the red and white ticks, rather than having them as underemphasized sliderends. Dashing to a strong note often feels more natural than away from it, though not always. Something to consider.
  4. 00:08:573 (2,3) - This hypers to a ghosted note, which feels especially weird to play and unfitting. Strong hyper + antiflow to 00:09:102 (4,5) is really weird to, would recommend reducing these to normal dashes
  5. 00:18:091 (5,6,7) - Reverse order here and include hypers to the downbeat and previous red tick for the vocal sounds, this plays much better imo, similar to the pattern you have at 00:20:911 (4,5,1)
  6. 00:26:199 (1,2) - Swap NC, new measure starts on the downbeat at (2) instead of here
  7. 00:28:667 (8,9,10,11) - Regular dashes would fit better here, there's really nothing that strong to emphasize with a hyper chain pattern
  8. 00:39:771 (7,8) - Jump polarity is confusing here, since as before you're emphasizing blue ticks which are really weak. Replacing this with circle > slider > circle will aloow you to emphasize the strong white and red ticks better
  9. 00:42:768 (5,6) - This spacing is really unexpected, I'd lower it a bit
  10. 00:52:991 (2,3,4) - (3) is a much stronger vocal note, so I'd recommend hyper to here instead of (4)
  11. 00:55:106 (7,8) - Another hyper to blue tick eeeeee 00:55:459 (1) isn't strong either so hdash would be better off just disappearing here tbh
  12. 01:03:743 (3,4,5) - This would play better with the hyper to (4) rather than away from it
  13. Kiai sections are mostly fine, but watch out for more of the above mentioned hyper patterns - if you reworked any previous paterns to hyper to the strong sound rather than away from it, you'll need to apply the same ideas here to maintain consistency
This diff isn't bad, but does feel a little overdone, some hypers are just unnecessary and draw emphasis away from the sounds that are actually worth emphasizing. Up to you whether you want to review that or not, but it's a strong suggestoion

This is all from me. If you have any questions or want to discuss things further, please don't hesitate to get back to me and I'll see what I can do to help.

Good luck! (:
-rage
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
-rage
mod reply

JBHyperion wrote:

As promised.

General Comments:

  1. Song Folder: So despite what the ID3 tag says your current mp3 actually has a quality below 128kbps which is unrankable. I couldn't find a decent source for the song with higher quality unfortunately - did you get this from the ranked map? i did, so i'm not sure why this is a problem D: Also, background image is 1365x768. I know you're only missing one column of pixels, but if you could find a 1366x768 BG, that'd be great dang, okay

    Dylan's Salad
    1. 00:45:940 (5,6) - Why is spacing so low here when this is one of the stronger notes in this section? Jumps should be between 00:45:235 (3,4) and/or 00:45:940 (5,6) - for the stronger vocals, not 00:44:178 (1,2,3) i made the jumps larger but somehow they feel good like they are now
    2. 00:46:293 (6) - Remove repeat, replace with a circle on the downbeat and add dash to this, same reasoning as Same as 00:12:803 (2) feels fine to me like this? idek
    Platter
    1. 01:04:448 (2) - Separate this into two circle, or swap 01:04:448 (2,3) on the timeline, since you really want to be emphasizing the strong white tick vocal sound with a dash of some sort i like this how it is, might change later idk

      Rain
      1. Are you sure about AR/OD9 here? yeah i'm sure
      2. 01:03:743 (3,4,5) - This would play better with the hyper to (4) rather than away from it trying to make the hyperdashes to background vocals because it feels nicer to me that way
Professor Gila
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Professor Gila


As requested :3

Rain
-00:06:986 (1) - drag this far to the left

-00:08:220 (1) - drag this to the right

-00:15:271 (4) - same case as above

-00:54:577 (4,5) - ctrl + g this?

The rest is fine :3

I didn't mod cup, salad and platter because they're all fine :3


-rage
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Electoz
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Electoz
Hi, from my modding queue~

[General]

  1. Since Dylan is now Dyl-Byl so I would recommend you to change the diff name as well.
[Cup]

  1. 00:54:049 (3) - This slider should be curved as it emphasize the high-pitch vocal better.
  2. 01:03:214 (2,1) - Imo more movement is needed here, compared to 01:09:560 (1) - 01:15:200 (1,2) .
  3. 01:12:380 (1,2) - Just my opinion but these two shouldn't be identical. Because here 01:13:790 (2) is clearly a different rhythm compared to 01:12:380 (1) .
[Dylan's Salad]

  1. 00:07:162 (5,6) - Just curious but is there any reason for stacking them?
  2. 00:57:574 (2,3) - Tbh I think some sort of force is needed, I would place 00:58:279 (3) to the left side so it would become a dash and I think the flow's better this way.
  3. 01:15:905 (2) - Could have been a horizontal one for a better movement.
Alright, my first mod on ctb ever, hope my mod helps~
Good luck~
Tyrell
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Tyrell
Doing a recheck on this.

General
  1. I still feel weird about this timing but after looking at it closely it seems fine to me. I am no timing expert tho so maybe im just being silly.

Cup
Opening thoughts: This is nice gameplay wise.
  1. 00:06:105 (6,7,8) - this part seems weird timeline wise. 00:06:458 (7) - seems out of place here. Would change into a slider that ends at 00:06:810 (7) - and add another circle at 00:07:162 (8) - this works better.
  2. 00:04:695 (1) - NC here
  3. 00:10:688 (1) - NC here pls
  4. 00:21:616 (1) - The spinner here isn't consistent with other diffs and feels a bit forced, i would just map the sounds here.
  5. 00:35:012 (4,1) - Maybe use a long slider here instead?
  6. 00:55:459 (1) - NC here
Song Setup Recommendations:none

Closing Thoughts: This cup is pretty solid. c:

Salad
Opening thoughts: This salad works fine but I feel the way the timeline is done leaves it way less than what it could've been. For example, 00:12:803 (2,1) - there is a slider tail on the downbeat and a slider tail for the emphasized beat. This is a recurring problem for this diff. You should change the timeline up a bit so that there could be dashes for the emphasized beats such as 00:13:860 and 00:14:565
[list:1337]Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: I dont want to say this map needs to be completely redone but it would be a lot better if you redid the timeline and made it work more to have dashes to emphasized sounds.

As for the Platter and Rain, I would like to have a IRC about them as I feel it would be easier to talk to you directly about them. Message me about when you can do that and that'd be awesome. c:

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set. :)
BoberOfDarkness
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BoberOfDarkness
Poke me after you apply Tyrells mod so I can mod it :^) (finally lol)
-rage
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lidahapi

lidahapi wrote:

As requested :3

00:06:986 (1) - drag this far to the left dragged a little to the left, but not so far.

-00:08:220 (1) - drag this to the right feels fine as it is now, jump is already pretty close as it is

-00:15:271 (4) - same case as above same case as above

-00:54:577 (4,5) - ctrl + g this? changed some notes around in this part, but not 4,5 lol

thanks for your mod! every little thing helps out!

Electoz

Electoz wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue~

[General]

  1. Since Dylan is now Dyl-Byl so I would recommend you to change the diff name as well.
had a talk with Dyl-Byl, we're not going to change the diff name since his name is dylan lol

[Cup]

  1. 00:54:049 (3) - This slider should be curved as it emphasize the high-pitch vocal better. alright
  2. 01:03:214 (2,1) - Imo more movement is needed here, compared to 01:09:560 (1) - 01:15:200 (1,2) . okay
  3. 01:12:380 (1,2) - Just my opinion but these two shouldn't be identical. Because here 01:13:790 (2) is clearly a different rhythm compared to 01:12:380 (1) changed .
[Dylan's Salad]

  1. 00:07:162 (5,6) - Just curious but is there any reason for stacking them? ....no XD
  2. 00:57:574 (2,3) - Tbh I think some sort of force is needed, I would place 00:58:279 (3) to the left side so it would become a dash and I think the flow's better this way. sure
  3. 01:15:905 (2) - Could have been a horizontal one for a better movement sure.
Alright, my first mod on ctb ever, hope my mod helps~
Good luck~
thank you for all your points! really useful mod!

Tyrell

Tyrell wrote:

Doing a recheck on this.

General
  1. I still feel weird about this timing but after looking at it closely it seems fine to me. I am no timing expert tho so maybe im just being silly.

Cup
Opening thoughts: This is nice gameplay wise.
  1. 00:06:105 (6,7,8) - this part seems weird timeline wise. 00:06:458 (7) - seems out of place here. Would change into a slider that ends at 00:06:810 (7) - and add another circle at 00:07:162 (8) - this works better. i changed the slider end for (7) but i won't add another circlle after since this part is more calm.
  2. 00:04:695 (1) - NC here okay
  3. 00:10:688 (1) - NC here pls okay
  4. 00:21:616 (1) - The spinner here isn't consistent with other diffs and feels a bit forced, i would just map the sounds here. i agree that it's not consistant, but i do like this spinner there since it's really a beginner difficulty.
  5. 00:35:012 (4,1) - Maybe use a long slider here instead? made the (4) into a slier but kept (1), i like it this way
  6. 00:55:459 (1) - NC hereokay
Song Setup Recommendations:none

Closing Thoughts: This cup is pretty solid. c:

Salad
Opening thoughts: This salad works fine but I feel the way the timeline is done leaves it way less than what it could've been. For example, 00:12:803 (2,1) - there is a slider tail on the downbeat and a slider tail for the emphasized beat. This is a recurring problem for this diff. You should change the timeline up a bit so that there could be dashes for the emphasized beats such as 00:13:860 and 00:14:565 i'll see if i can do something about it :P
[list:1337]Song Setup Recommendations: none
Closing Thoughts: I dont want to say this map needs to be completely redone but it would be a lot better if you redid the timeline and made it work more to have dashes to emphasized sounds.

As for the Platter and Rain, I would like to have a IRC about them as I feel it would be easier to talk to you directly about them. Message me about when you can do that and that'd be awesome. c: i'll see you there ;)

I hope this mod was helpful. If you have questions feel free to message me in-game if you see me on, or message me via forum. Good luck with this set. :)

thanks for the re-check!
BoberOfDarkness
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BoberOfDarkness
General
I have to admit that note at 00:01:875 - doesn't fit to me, I would put spinner's end here which should start at 00:01:169 -
Combo colors: maybe use violet instead gray?

AR spread: the song is pretty slow why you didn't pick AR fitting to it? For me best AR spread that could be used is 5-6-7-8 (5.5-6.5-7.5-8.5 is fine too tho)


Salad
01:06:739 (1) - move 2 grids left, its too hard to catch
01:12:380 (7,1) - swap new combos
01:13:790 (2) - you can put NC here
01:16:963 (1,2) - swap new combos
01:20:840 (5,1) - swap new combos
01:23:661 - put spinner since there is spinner on Cup and Platter

Platter and Rain

I don't like shapeless mapping style used on both Platter and Rain so only thing that I can suggest you is curve your map

Good luck
-rage
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Topic Starter
-rage

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

General
I have to admit that note at 00:01:875 - doesn't fit to me, I would put spinner's end here which should start at 00:01:169 - that would be WAY too short for a spinner :<
Combo colors: maybe use violet instead gray? there's 2 violets already D: don't wanna add 3

AR spread: the song is pretty slow why you didn't pick AR fitting to it? For me best AR spread that could be used is 5-6-7-8 (5.5-6.5-7.5-8.5 is fine too tho)
i do like this idea, but with the current way the rain is, ar9 seems way more fitting that way.

Salad
01:06:739 (1) - move 2 grids left, its too hard to catch ok
01:12:380 (7,1) - swap new combos ok
01:13:790 (2) - you can put NC here umm, why have a 1 note combo? it won't fit well with all the other combos
01:16:963 (1,2) - swap new combos ^
01:20:840 (5,1) - swap new combos ok
01:23:661 - put spinner since there is spinner on Cup and Platter ok

Platter and Rain

I don't like shapeless mapping style used on both Platter and Rain so only thing that I can suggest you is curve your map
i don't really see the problem with having no curves to the sliders, some people do it that way. You could've come up with actual points to help improve the difficulties instead of just saying "this is bad"

Good luck
pls come back tyrell
BoberOfDarkness
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BoberOfDarkness

klonoa wrote:

that would be WAY too short for a spinner :< 1/1 long spinner is enough lol


i do like this idea, but with the current way the rain is, ar9 seems way more fitting that way. not at all, btw even JBH sugest you to change it

i don't really see the problem with having no curves to the sliders, some people do it that way. You could've come up with actual points to help improve the difficulties instead of just saying "this is bad" I don't really see other way to improve it
lets try
Rain

00:05:400 (4,5,6,7) - that would be a lot better to play with this placement (4) - x:416, (5) - x:288 (6) - x:176 (7) x:128

00:07:691 (3,4,5,1) - this is a bit weird, maybe ctrl + g (1) so it will make nice jump, if you do that you should ctrl + g 00:08:573 (2) - and move some this note 00:08:925 (3) -

00:12:627 (3,4) - I feel that there should be hyper dash between those, sound on (4) is very strong tbh

00:18:267 (6,7) - timeline is wierd here too me, 00:18:267 - put here 1/4 slider with reverse and here single 1/4 slider 00:18:796 -

00:35:717 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this would work better as curved stream or try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4616665

00:38:537 - I feel that should be mapped

01:13:790 - maybe use slider + 2 notes 1/8 after, its not imortant to map as slider this background vocal, also you didn't followed stronger vocals
I hope I helped
-rage
425 posts
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Topic Starter
-rage

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

klonoa wrote:

that would be WAY too short for a spinner :< 1/1 long spinner is enough lol i still feel strong about havinbg no spinner there, so no change


i do like this idea, but with the current way the rain is, ar9 seems way more fitting that way. not at all, btw even JBH sugest you to change it fine, i'll change
lets try
Rain

00:05:400 (4,5,6,7) - that would be a lot better to play with this placement (4) - x:416, (5) - x:288 (6) - x:176 (7) x:128 sure

00:07:691 (3,4,5,1) - this is a bit weird, maybe ctrl + g (1) so it will make nice jump, if you do that you should ctrl + g 00:08:573 (2) - and move some this note 00:08:925 (3) -

00:12:627 (3,4) - I feel that there should be hyper dash between those, sound on (4) is very strong tbh

00:18:267 (6,7) - timeline is wierd here too me, 00:18:267 - put here 1/4 slider with reverse and here single 1/4 slider 00:18:796 - the notes and slider placement on the timeline are the same throughout this part, so i won't change

00:35:717 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this would work better as curved stream or try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4616665 i like this

00:38:537 - I feel that should be mapped i think it's fine like this, seperates the combo well and there's nothing in this part

01:13:790 - maybe use slider + 2 notes 1/8 after, its not imortant to map as slider this background vocal, also you didn't followed stronger vocals i'll see what i can do with this
I hope I helped
thanks :D
Doyak
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Idk about ctb, but hope you can make it ranked soon :D
-rage
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-rage

Doyak wrote:

Idk about ctb, but hope you can make it ranked soon :D
thanks bro. :)
CTB BNs are rarer than a manaphy
especially on your first beatmap XD
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Qiyana

klonoa wrote:

Who dat? Who dat?
-rage
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revive when
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