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C-Show - Never Cry Again [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Lethargy
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 8:12:15 PM

Artist: C-Show
Title: Never Cry Again
Tags: dnb drum and bass liquid asagi nozhomi tasuke912 geronimaa ascendance p a n
BPM: 174
Filesize: 3730kb
Play Time: 02:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Asagi's Hard (3.39 stars, 315 notes)
  2. Ascendance's Easy (1.17 stars, 112 notes)
  3. Insane (5.02 stars, 539 notes)
  4. Normal (2.08 stars, 219 notes)
  5. Noz's Advanced (2.52 stars, 254 notes)
  6. P A N's Light Insane (4.27 stars, 411 notes)
  7. tasuke's Muzukashii (2.95 stars, 530 notes)
  8. tasuke's Oni (4.75 stars, 785 notes)
Download: C-Show - Never Cry Again
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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BNs, where are you?

Easy by Ascendance.

Advanced by Nozhomi.

Hard by Asagi.

Light Insane by P A N.

Taiko GDs by tasuke912.
Surono
hi

>Taiko Diff
Hitsounding
  1. 00:44:943 - want put Finisher, 01:07:012 - like u did in here?
  2. 01:17:615 (38,39) - more sycron to ctrl g this *on Oni*
  3. 01:54:598 - ctrl g? on muzu. 02:00:115 - and this can to keeping bcus flow is fit.. nice to be variety
Patterns
  1. 01:03:908 - ww 1/6, rare to see this
  2. 01:03:908 - and on muzu, want change to slider? but this nice too for emphasize thats extrem drumstep, for spare
  3. 01:50:201 - Oni: move to 01:50:287 - here, 01:50:718 - delete, and then 01:50:805 (40,41) - make don.. lol i just make this easir ww, sorry. but this suggest make enough fits with hitsound and to play for Oni
  4. wait.. i see on 2nd kiai on Oni have 2/4 rest, but 1st.. can me suggest? 01:10:287 - delete this? this just low flow, nice to be rest. 01:13:046 - and others too if see and hear like this..
cya tasuke san~
tasuke912
Thanks for mod, surono. :D
update: http://puu.sh/kF5jl/61cbbdea9e.zip
Ascendance
does this mean i do not make hard anymore ;w;
Topic Starter
Lethargy

Ascendance wrote:

does this mean i do not make hard anymore ;w;
sry, he was faster :o , but you can make easy or light insane 8-)
karterfreak
m4m for Tasuke
[Oni]

00:56:322 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - This was honestly the biggest thing I saw. Can tell you want to do a buildup understandably but there's a fair bit of drums to work with here that you can use to differentiate it from the Muzukashii. Perhaps add some triples / quintuplets into this section to match background drums a little better leading into the 1/6 part.

01:03:908 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - QQ (Part is perfectly fine, just hard to hit lol)

01:17:356 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - This was the only part that felt a little awkward to play in comparison to other streamy parts. I suggest moving 01:17:615 (38,39) - to start at 01:17:529 - so you get dkdk kddk. Gives you that small break on the 1/1 tick putting further emphasis on the drums.

[Muzukashii]

No real complaints, solid map.
tasuke912

Tasha wrote:

m4m for Tasuke
[Oni]
00:56:322 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - This was honestly the biggest thing I saw. Can tell you want to do a buildup understandably but there's a fair bit of drums to work with here that you can use to differentiate it from the Muzukashii. Perhaps add some triples / quintuplets into this section to match background drums a little better leading into the 1/6 part. added some 1/4s.

01:03:908 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - QQ (Part is perfectly fine, just hard to hit lol) yeah, hard to hit. but i prefer this ;w;

01:17:356 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - This was the only part that felt a little awkward to play in comparison to other streamy parts. I suggest moving 01:17:615 (38,39) - to start at 01:17:529 - so you get dkdk kddk. Gives you that small break on the 1/1 tick putting further emphasis on the drums. applied.

[Muzukashii]
No real complaints, solid map.
Thanks for your mod, Tasha. :)
update: http://puu.sh/kOyID/874ecfe5e2.zip
P A N
finished

SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: C-Show - Never Cry Again.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 111473
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 133563
DistanceSpacing: 0.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:Never Cry Again
TitleUnicode:Never Cry Again
Artist:C-Show
ArtistUnicode:C-Show
Creator:Lethargy
Version:P A N's Light Insane
Source:
Tags:dnb asagi nozhomi tasuke912 geronimaa
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.7
ApproachRate:8.7
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

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Noobish
this is strictly my own personal feeling about the insane difficulty

from 00:01:151 (1) - to 00:10:461 (6) - I feel like it would be better off without the triples. Does not match the song, there's no sound to it and serve no purpose other than adding more density to the intro part which I feel should be more light than this.

00:03:219 (5,6,7) - why is it not stacked

00:10:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - nothing wrong with this stream in particular but 00:20:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - made me check if it was a copy pasted stream. the fact that this 01:03:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - stream follows the same direction too doesnt help but feel repetitive.( maybe this is your intention in the first place?)

00:39:771 (1) - to 00:42:530 (5) - at this part the vocal part started to drop off and instrument sound is taking over. Maybe follow it? this will probably improve the next issue as well which is,

00:44:771 (6,7,1) - the vocal part is already like a break then the transition from loud beat into complete nothing feel kinda empty.

02:13:477 (14) - what's the purpose of this note? got tripped over on this hidden note that ruined fc on hdhr( even though its not completely hidden but cus im bad at this game)

other than that map is good, like the song, gl!
Topic Starter
Lethargy

Noobish wrote:

this is strictly my own personal feeling about the insane difficulty

from 00:01:151 (1) - to 00:10:461 (6) - I feel like it would be better off without the triples. Does not match the song, there's no sound to it and serve no purpose other than adding more density to the intro part which I feel should be more light than this. - Sry, I like those triples

00:03:219 (5,6,7) - why is it not stacked - It is a pattern which I use, you can see it later in the map as well

00:10:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - nothing wrong with this stream in particular but 00:20:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - made me check if it was a copy pasted stream. the fact that this 01:03:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - stream follows the same direction too doesnt help but feel repetitive.( maybe this is your intention in the first place?) - I do get your point, it feels a bit repetitive, but imo it doesnt really impact the playability, so I am gonna keep it for the time being

00:39:771 (1) - to 00:42:530 (5) - at this part the vocal part started to drop off and instrument sound is taking over. Maybe follow it? this will probably improve the next issue as well which is, kind of fixed


00:44:771 (6,7,1) - the vocal part is already like a break then the transition from loud beat into complete nothing feel kinda empty. same

02:13:477 (14) - what's the purpose of this note? got tripped over on this hidden note that ruined fc on hdhr( even though its not completely hidden but cus im bad at this game) - to emphasize the "jump" in terms of music + i like people choking :v)

other than that map is good, like the song, gl!
Ty for mod!
P A N

Lethargy wrote:

i like people choking :v)
: )
Noobish
(v : choking is a game for two
(^:
Kuki
irc ya dingus

SPOILER
2015-10-28 22:58 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/792411 C-Show - Never Cry Again [Normal]]
2015-10-28 22:58 Kuki: lol
2015-10-28 23:00 Kuki: 00:40:460 (2,3) - maybe blanket or something like so -http://puu.sh/l0y3l/40e856bc7b.jpg
2015-10-28 23:00 Kuki: easier transition to the spinner then
2015-10-28 23:00 Kuki: and looks a bit nice
2015-10-28 23:00 Kuki: also lead to a break sorta well
2015-10-28 23:01 Lethargy: did
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: k
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: 001:37:184 (6,1,2,3) - this doesn't look nice my man
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: you have 1/2/3 so close it'd be hard to read
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: with (6) overlapping (3)
2015-10-28 23:01 Lethargy: yea
2015-10-28 23:01 Lethargy: i agree
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: as well as 1/2/3 all overlapping
2015-10-28 23:01 Kuki: lol
2015-10-28 23:02 Kuki: ummmm
2015-10-28 23:02 Kuki: try this
2015-10-28 23:02 Kuki: http://puu.sh/l0y89/da6fb2ebb1.jpg
2015-10-28 23:02 Kuki: nvm that's sorta shit
2015-10-28 23:02 Kuki: but stacking 01:37:529 (1) - on 01:37:701 (2) - is aight
2015-10-28 23:02 Lethargy: fixed
2015-10-28 23:03 Lethargy: idi smth like this http://puu.sh/l0yco/42f33d6779.jpg
2015-10-28 23:03 Kuki: that's aight
2015-10-28 23:03 Kuki: 02:13:218 (6) - point this a bit more towards 02:13:563 (1) -
2015-10-28 23:03 Lethargy: btw do you like hitsounds?
2015-10-28 23:04 Lethargy: well yeah
2015-10-28 23:04 Lethargy: taht was intention
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: you've already done it but i think it needs to be a bit more pointed
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: yeah
2015-10-28 23:04 Lethargy: i should probably make it point a bit more
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: i'll be honest i didn't notice
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: music is sorta overpowering
2015-10-28 23:04 Lethargy: like this? http://puu.sh/l0yhH/cd9a761804.jpg
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: >,<
2015-10-28 23:04 Lethargy: yea
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: yeah that's basically what i did
2015-10-28 23:04 Kuki: sweet
2015-10-28 23:05 Lethargy: maybe you will notice more in insane
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: 00:11:495 (1) - nc here maybs
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: yellow combo seems far too long
2015-10-28 23:05 Lethargy: insane or normal?
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: insane
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: sorry
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/788552 C-Show - Never Cry Again [Insane]]
2015-10-28 23:05 Kuki: ><
2015-10-28 23:05 Lethargy: ok
2015-10-28 23:06 Kuki: 00:21:151 (7) - same here cause long yellow combo
2015-10-28 23:06 Kuki: also for consistency's sake
2015-10-28 23:06 Lethargy: sure
2015-10-28 23:07 Kuki: 00:23:909 (3,4) - you don't do this overlap thing again for this section so why not just space it a bit more
2015-10-28 23:07 Kuki: maybe even a blanket sorta deal
2015-10-28 23:07 Kuki: http://puu.sh/l0ytj/942388cde3.jpg
2015-10-28 23:07 Lethargy: forgot
2015-10-28 23:07 Kuki: nw
2015-10-28 23:07 Lethargy: yea i liek that
2015-10-28 23:08 Kuki: maybe stack 00:45:288 (1) - on the sliderend of 00:42:529 (7) -
2015-10-28 23:08 Kuki: it's not lined up like it was but i think i like that more
2015-10-28 23:08 Kuki: seperating it from 00:44:598 (8,10) -
2015-10-28 23:09 Lethargy: ok
2015-10-28 23:09 Kuki: 00:57:701 (7) - nc hereeee
2015-10-28 23:09 Lethargy: works
2015-10-28 23:09 Kuki: 01:03:909 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - maybe do something cool with 1/8 sliders? :o
2015-10-28 23:10 Kuki: like so
2015-10-28 23:10 Kuki: http://puu.sh/l0yGA/629c4d37c5.jpg
2015-10-28 23:11 Lethargy: actually yeah
2015-10-28 23:11 Lethargy: i might try that
2015-10-28 23:11 Lethargy: since the sound intensifies and 1/8 becomes viable
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: yea
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: and it's super cool
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: hahah
2015-10-28 23:11 Lethargy: true
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: 01:08:737 (1) - nc here tuu
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: 01:17:012 (7) - here too
2015-10-28 23:11 Kuki: juist to avoid the (11) (12) etc
2015-10-28 23:12 Lethargy: can you hear dem hitsounds now?
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: 01:19:770 (1) - here too but idk, you can do it as you see fit cause it should be consistent
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: uuu
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: not really
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: just soft hitsound
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: ;-;\
2015-10-28 23:12 Lethargy: yea
2015-10-28 23:12 Lethargy: thats the point
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: 01:30:805 (7) - wow u really need nz
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: ok that's good then
2015-10-28 23:12 Kuki: lol
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: nc*
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: cause it goes to (14) lol
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: omg u did it again
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: 01:34:943 (16) -
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: 01:33:908 (9) - nc this maybe
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: 01:37:615 (14) -
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: aaaaaaaaaaa
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: 01:40:460 (14) -
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: double digit combo so scary
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: 01:43:391 (15) -
2015-10-28 23:13 Kuki: x-x
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: 01:51:322 (19) -
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: X_X
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: 01:55:546 (16) -
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: ok so maybe
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: redo nc for that part
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: and try to avoid megacombo
2015-10-28 23:14 Kuki: and that's all I got
riktoi
[Insane]

01:50:805 (1,2,3,4) - do something about this pattern to make it more readable, the transition between 01:50:805 (1,2) - these is really horrible from a play perspective

[P A N's Light Insane]

01:01:494 (4,1) - I don't really know how badly the transition between these could be in terms of sliderbreaking, but i think it should be fine since there is one tick between (just leave it tbh)

[Asagi's Hard]

00:02:529 (1,2) - the distance between these annoys me greatly

00:08:046 (1,2) - ^

00:44:770 - please don't end a slider on a sound like a loud drum

00:57:012 (3,4,1,2) - you need to tilt this square in a different way. WHAT YOU SHOULD NOT DO WITH SQUARES EVER: BD's MITTENS
(also change the stuff after to fit the changed square nowww)

In general you should look to make some angles smoother as it will make the map flow way better.

[Noz's Advanced]

00:32:893 - faster short part than in light insane ayy lmao (not that it matters as it's balanced out anyway)

in other words nothing to note about

[Normal]

00:12:529 (2,3) - check aimod (distance between these is too big compared to distance everywhere else)

00:45:287 - it's a normal so this is okay

01:26:667 (2) - are you sure this is in the place it is intended to be in (having a 6/4 reverse slider in the middle of nowhere is a bit weird in a normal diff)

[Ascendance's Easy]

Change preview point so it's the same as in every other diff

00:43:218 (1) - make this one white tick longer (move to the left and then make it longer) so beginners have more time to spin

00:46:667 (2,3) - objects are too close to each other (according to aimod)

01:50:115 (1,1) - I would advise against putting hitcircles on the same coordinates in a easy, even though if it has a huge break inbetween like here

Tidy up your blankets

can't mod taiko sorry ;_;
Ascendance

riktoi wrote:

[Ascendance's Easy]

Change preview point so it's the same as in every other diff oops

00:43:218 (1) - make this one white tick longer (move to the left and then make it longer) so beginners have more time to spin sure

00:46:667 (2,3) - objects are too close to each other (according to aimod) made some adjustments <:

01:50:115 (1,1) - I would advise against putting hitcircles on the same coordinates in a easy, even though if it has a huge break inbetween like here Will not change unless it is brought back up a lot, the distance should be fine for now.

Tidy up your blankets ;u;

can't mod taiko sorry ;_;

Why can't I make good blankets
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@Lethargy, please change the tags on my diff too if possible~
Alheak
ayy

[Easy]
  1. Be sure to be consistent in your sliders' shapes, abuse that copy paste, avoid recreating new sliders, and review your blankets
  2. 00:17:012 (4,1) - not a fan of stacks in Easy diffs, they're a bit confusing for beginners
  3. 00:23:908 (2,2) - This overlap is barely making it, if i were you i'd try to place them so they don't overlap
  4. 00:53:563 (2,3) - two problems here: first (3)'s tail is closer to (2) than it's head, and beginner can mistake it and click on it instead, second, you should make a blanket here with (3), this would also solve the first problem
  5. 01:04:598 (1,1) - i think you should end the spinner 1 measure earlier or just not put any spinner there and begin mapping at 01:07:356 - , this beat is way too important to just be a spinner's end and beginning kiai at 01:08:046 - is just very confusing
  6. 01:14:253 (2,4) - Like earlier, overlap barely making it, you could just stack (4) on (2)'s tail
  7. 01:43:218 (1,2) - ugly little overlap here
  8. 01:51:839 - Are you really going to ignore this?
[Normal]
  1. Not sure following the synth is a good idea there for Kiai, since it plays almost always on red ticks, you wanna prioritize drums (1st and 3rd beats) as much as possible until Adv/Hard diffs
  2. 01:30:632 (4,3) - overlap
  3. 02:08:218 (2) - why? it just doesn't fit
    oh, the synth (pls dont do that)
[Advanced]
  1. 01:07:356 (1,2) - , 01:09:253 (2,1) - petits overlaps mais très nazis
  2. 01:35:977 (4,1) - ^
  3. 01:51:839 (1,2) - ^
[Hard]
  1. 00:02:529 (1,2) - not a fan of this rhythm choice here, 00:03:391 - is too important to not be clicked, and this is a bit confusing since the previous measure is mapped correctly, we feel urged to click/tap on 00:03:218 (2) - , this kind of rhythm would make more sense i think:
  2. 01:54:598 (2) - clap here wanted? if not remove it
[Light Insane]
  1. 00:45:977 - 00:56:322 - A bit confusing here since the other diffs have a break here, I think you should be consistent and remove this part (as painful as it may be) or convince the others to map this part as well
  2. 01:11:322 (1,2) - swap claps?
  3. 01:53:563 (2,1) - nazi overlap
  4. 01:59:770 (1) - This slider might actually be off-limits
[Insane]

  • 00:41:150 (4) - I think the beat at 00:41:322 - is actually stronger than the vocals, so id recommand mapping on it instead of 00:41:150 -
    00:43:908 - there's nothing here, end your slider 00:43:563 - here or 00:44:081 - here. also center 00:44:598 (8) - inside it
    01:54:598 (2) - remove clap?
    02:13:477 (1) - there is nothing here, and im not even sure about 02:13:391 -
cant mod taiko but tasuke is good so no problem here

good luck, nude dice
Topic Starter
Lethargy

riktoi wrote:

[Insane]

01:50:805 (1,2,3,4) - do something about this pattern to make it more readable, the transition between 01:50:805 (1,2) - these is really horrible from a play perspective - fixed

[Normal]

00:12:529 (2,3) - check aimod (distance between these is too big compared to distance everywhere else) - fixed

00:45:287 - it's a normal so this is okay - ??

01:26:667 (2) - are you sure this is in the place it is intended to be in (having a 6/4 reverse slider in the middle of nowhere is a bit weird in a normal diff) - the music is different from other parts, so id like to keep it

can't mod taiko sorry ;_;
Thanks for mod regardless
Nozhomi
@Alheak : I changed only 2 first overlaps, other are intended.

Thx~

diffu~
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
Lethargy

Alheak wrote:

ayy

[Easy]
  1. Be sure to be consistent in your sliders' shapes, abuse that copy paste, avoid recreating new sliders, and review your blankets
  2. 00:17:012 (4,1) - not a fan of stacks in Easy diffs, they're a bit confusing for beginners
  3. 00:23:908 (2,2) - This overlap is barely making it, if i were you i'd try to place them so they don't overlap
  4. 00:53:563 (2,3) - two problems here: first (3)'s tail is closer to (2) than it's head, and beginner can mistake it and click on it instead, second, you should make a blanket here with (3), this would also solve the first problem
  5. 01:04:598 (1,1) - i think you should end the spinner 1 measure earlier or just not put any spinner there and begin mapping at 01:07:356 - , this beat is way too important to just be a spinner's end and beginning kiai at 01:08:046 - is just very confusing
  6. 01:14:253 (2,4) - Like earlier, overlap barely making it, you could just stack (4) on (2)'s tail
  7. 01:43:218 (1,2) - ugly little overlap here
  8. 01:51:839 - Are you really going to ignore this?
[Normal]
  1. Not sure following the synth is a good idea there for Kiai, since it plays almost always on red ticks, you wanna prioritize drums (1st and 3rd beats) as much as possible until Adv/Hard diffs
  2. 01:30:632 (4,3) - overlap
  3. 02:08:218 (2) - why? it just doesn't fit
    oh, the synth (pls dont do that)
[Advanced]
  1. 01:07:356 (1,2) - , 01:09:253 (2,1) - petits overlaps mais très nazis
  2. 01:35:977 (4,1) - ^
  3. 01:51:839 (1,2) - ^
[Hard]
  1. 00:02:529 (1,2) - not a fan of this rhythm choice here, 00:03:391 - is too important to not be clicked, and this is a bit confusing since the previous measure is mapped correctly, we feel urged to click/tap on 00:03:218 (2) - , this kind of rhythm would make more sense i think:
  2. 01:54:598 (2) - clap here wanted? if not remove it
[Light Insane]
  1. 00:45:977 - 00:56:322 - A bit confusing here since the other diffs have a break here, I think you should be consistent and remove this part (as painful as it may be) or convince the others to map this part as well
  2. 01:11:322 (1,2) - swap claps?
  3. 01:53:563 (2,1) - nazi overlap
  4. 01:59:770 (1) - This slider might actually be off-limits
[Insane]

  • 00:41:150 (4) - I think the beat at 00:41:322 - is actually stronger than the vocals, so id recommand mapping on it instead of 00:41:150 -
    00:43:908 - there's nothing here, end your slider 00:43:563 - here or 00:44:081 - here. also center 00:44:598 (8) - inside it
    01:54:598 (2) - remove clap?
    02:13:477 (1) - there is nothing here, and im not even sure about 02:13:391 -
cant mod taiko but tasuke is good so no problem here

good luck, nude dice
applied some of it
Ascendance

Alheak wrote:

ayy

[Easy]
  1. Be sure to be consistent in your sliders' shapes, abuse that copy paste, avoid recreating new sliders, and review your blankets You modded and baka lethargy didn't update my map so some of this is already fixed. As for slider shapes... I personally think they are fine, copy paste is boring ;w; if it's really so bad, I'll fix them all...
  2. 00:17:012 (4,1) - not a fan of stacks in Easy diffs, they're a bit confusing for beginners
  3. 00:23:908 (2,2) - This overlap is barely making it, if i were you i'd try to place them so they don't overlap
  4. 00:53:563 (2,3) - two problems here: first (3)'s tail is closer to (2) than it's head, and beginner can mistake it and click on it instead, second, you should make a blanket here with (3), this would also solve the first problem
  5. 01:04:598 (1,1) - i think you should end the spinner 1 measure earlier or just not put any spinner there and begin mapping at 01:07:356 - , this beat is way too important to just be a spinner's end and beginning kiai at 01:08:046 - is just very confusing
  6. 01:14:253 (2,4) - Like earlier, overlap barely making it, you could just stack (4) on (2)'s tail
  7. 01:43:218 (1,2) - ugly little overlap here
  8. 01:51:839 - Are you really going to ignore this? yes, if I map the same way I mapped the rest of the song by vocals, then placing a note here makes it too difficult, thats why I have 01:51:494 (1) - on the downbeat


good luck, nude dice
everything else is fixed because Lethargy too slow for update ~

Please accept my shitty blankets once more~
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P A N
off-limit and overlap are fine, about that part, I will wait for a confirmation from BN that it's not ok, fixed that hitsound thanks :3
Asonate
hey, mod incoming

[Ascendance's Easy]
  1. 00:18:391 (2) - weird transition from the prior one, might move the sliderstart down a bit
  2. 02:10:115 (3) - why not place that like a slider extension
[Normal]
  1. 00:02:529 (3) - would use the same angle you had with 00:01:150 (1) - (necessarily just move 1)
  2. 00:12:874 (3,4,5,6,1) - make this a pentagon ?
  3. 00:57:701 (3) - you skip the white ticks, which have strong drumbeats here, id have them hitsounded rather
  4. 02:08:046 (1,2) - this is extremely unexpected (l2read inc), also you only use that here in the entire diff
[Noz's Advanced]
quick grammar stuff, but i dont think you need the 's in the diff name, since z is one of the letters (s,x,z) that dont need that afterapostrophe s (=Noz' Hard)
OK NEVER MIND, both are ok
  1. 00:30:115 (3) - that seems weird movement wise
  2. 00:34:253 - uhm, are you sure about not having anything there ? Atleast have the spinner end here
  3. 00:59:081 (1) - i know youre following the vocals here, but this sudden change from 1/1 sliders to vocals seems strange, even more since you miss a white tick with a strong drumbeat
[Asagi's Hard]
well... i guess i cant do much here

[P A N's Light Insane]
  1. 01:10:115 (1,2) - consider a blanket here
[Insane]
Flawless to me



Anyways, hope that little bit can help, gl
Topic Starter
Lethargy

Asonate wrote:

hey, mod incoming

[Normal]
  1. 00:02:529 (3) - would use the same angle you had with 00:01:150 (1) - (necessarily just move 1) - k
  2. 00:12:874 (3,4,5,6,1) - make this a pentagon ? - cuz spacing
  3. 00:57:701 (3) - you skip the white ticks, which have strong drumbeats here, id have them hitsounded rather - k
  4. 02:08:046 (1,2) - this is extremely unexpected (l2read inc), also you only use that here in the entire diff - id like to keep that, since its end and that is where people are suppsoed to break :v)
[Insane]
Flawless to me
ty


Anyways, hope that little bit can help, gl
Hula
m4m. If I've mentioned something and it's the same as something else which maps the same/very similar thing, I probably mean both of those things but haven't bothered/missed one :). Sorry about not doing the normal, this mod is already about an hour long for me.

[Ascendance's Easy]
it's an easy.
00:17:012 (4,1) - I wouldn't stack these, it breaks the flow for easies. It's probably hard for them to read. i'd be all for it if the song froze at that point.

[Noz's Advanced]
A brief overview on this one from me (why when i open editor is it on 1/16 lol)

at 00:02:012 - You should put a 1/2 slider here instead to map both of the drums, it feels particularly empty and lacking. Do this for the whole intro, like the drums in this shouldn't be ignored like that.
00:34:253 - Circle with whistle.
01:28:046 (1) - 1/2 repeat slider.
01:36:839 (2) - make a 1/2 slider here or 2 circles, that white tick has a ding that feels empty without
01:47:874 (2) - ^
02:00:632 (3) - make a proper triangle with 1,2. Use the approach circles.
02:12:529 (4) - blanket slightly off, lol



[Asagi's Hard]
00:12:184 (1,2) - Flow is dodgy and the previous slider hides half the slider. Avoid this sort of thing. Also here and all the other instances where you've used 3/4 slider in the intro part I can't see a reason for. There is a drum on the red tick and nothing on the blue tick. I would understand if there was vocals you're trying to make the player follow, but I feel this is unnecessary and should be 1/2 sliders.
00:31:581 (1) - Put whistle
00:42:615 (1) - Put whistle
00:44:943 (1) - Put whistle on slider end instead
01:04:684 (1) - put whistle

In the kiai you switch between mapping the synth and focusing on the drums more sometimes and it's kinda for no reason, a bit confusing tbh? 01:47:356 (1,2,3) - Like here, it suddenly feels jarring, happened earlier on too.

01:54:253 (1,2) - I would say this is fine for using 3/4 slider for because you have a vocal here you want the player to be kept click down on but still want them to click on that white tick. Otherwise, a nope from me in this song :).



[P A N's Light Insane]
Overall, solid map. Beautiful use of symmetry and shit 00:02:529 (1) - why not a 1/2 slider? Not saying put one necessarily, would just like to know why, same with all the reoccurences of this.
00:44:598 (2,4,5) - Straight line please (use a slider from 5 to 4 and shift a bit. Polishing thing.
00:56:322 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I thought that this was too stationary in terms of being clumped up and confined in the bottom left corner of the map. I would change it up a bit on the 3rd bar.
01:19:770 (1) - Underwhelming, needs higher spacing from previous object, or maybe it's the direction of the flow. Something's amiss.
01:25:805 (3,4,5) - this pattern here could look more polished, like having a nice diamond shape of the whole combo.
01:32:701 (2) - Blanket
01:59:770 (1) - Always wondered, is this okay? I do this sort of thing frequently
02:01:667 - feels particularly empty for some reason



[Insane]
One thing that does annoy me is this obsession with the constantly offstack/slight overlapping which in particular makes looking in editor an absolute pain in the ass and also not a fan of playing. Like i get that it all ties in nicely, but it makes the editor more cluttered than needed ;)

00:12:702 (4,5) - Flow is dodgy here. I would place the 4 over to the left to make some kind of Kite shape? 00:17:013 (3) - slider head isn't a perfect triangle with 1 and 2 slider heads - perfection thing
00:26:668 (1) - Holy blankets.
00:27:357 (2) - Move over to the right to flow with the previous slider.
00:35:633 (2) - same again
00:57:013 (3,4,5,6) - How come in this pattern the drum got given the 1.0x spacing and not given the drum?
00:58:909 (5) - Make it so that this has a bigger jump to (1) or at least equal spacing between objects, since this is causing the next slider on the downbeat to be underemphasised. I would go for equal spacing.
01:00:461 (5,6,7,8) - Again, should be like increase spacing on the drum circle, this is a basic part of the song right now, so you can easily base your jump spacing with the drums
01:03:908 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - This actually stops becoming 1/4 and 1/8 here, should be more like 2 1/8 repeat slider here.

01:16:150 (3) - Why the sudden huge spacing?

In the kiai, i wouldn't use quintuples. You're using 1/4 triples to map the synth or w.e you wanna call it, so keep to that.

As a result of the logic above, delete ones like this 01:16:753 (5) - and 01:23:650 (5) - instead, putting in 01:16:925 -

01:27:874 (6,7) - make the downbeat, red tick and next white tick into a bit of a jump. There's interesting drums here which are kinda like hyping it up. You map that synth thing plenty enough, spice it up.

01:34:943 (8) - I was thinking this should be a 1/2 slider, because everytime that ding happened on the downbeat (a super important part of music in repetition and shit) you put a 1/2 slider which I thought worked well.
01:40:460 (10) - same
01:48:736 (14) - nc though pls and delete the one on the red tick.

01:56:236 (3) - no need for 1/4 here, not in the song at all

02:02:184 (5,6,7,8,9) - Delete, and make timeline like this and emphasise the 1/2 appropriately :). 02:04:943 (5,6,7,8,1) - there's no 1/4 here at all

02:07:701 (6,7,8,9,1) - no 1/4, but you ignored the 1/4 which landed just after the previous slider.

02:12:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Overmapped stream, You should emphasise the drums there. You can still maintain a stream there which would start on like (5)
Topic Starter
Lethargy
[quote="Hula"]m4m. If I've mentioned something and it's the same as something else which maps the same/very similar thing, I probably mean both of those things but haven't bothered/missed one :). Sorry about not doing the normal, this mod is already about an hour long for me.


[Insane]
One thing that does annoy me is this obsession with the constantly offstack/slight overlapping which in particular makes looking in editor an absolute pain in the ass and also not a fan of playing. Like i get that it all ties in nicely, but it makes the editor more cluttered than needed ;)

00:12:702 (4,5) - Flow is dodgy here. I would place the 4 over to the left to make some kind of Kite shape? - no
00:17:013 (3) - slider head isn't a perfect triangle with 1 and 2 slider heads - perfection thing - no
00:26:668 (1) - Holy blankets. - ok
00:27:357 (2) - Move over to the right to flow with the previous slider. - no
00:35:633 (2) - same again - no
00:57:013 (3,4,5,6) - How come in this pattern the drum got given the 1.0x spacing and not given the drum? - what
00:58:909 (5) - Make it so that this has a bigger jump to (1) or at least equal spacing between objects, since this is causing the next slider on the downbeat to be underemphasised. I would go for equal spacing. - no
01:00:461 (5,6,7,8) - Again, should be like increase spacing on the drum circle, this is a basic part of the song right now, so you can easily base your jump spacing with the drums - no
01:03:908 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - This actually stops becoming 1/4 and 1/8 here, should be more like 2 1/8 repeat slider here. - no

01:16:150 (3) - Why the sudden huge spacing? - fixed

In the kiai, i wouldn't use quintuples. You're using 1/4 triples to map the synth or w.e you wanna call it, so keep to that.

As a result of the logic above, delete ones like this 01:16:753 (5) - and 01:23:650 (5) - instead, putting in 01:16:925 - - no

01:27:874 (6,7) - make the downbeat, red tick and next white tick into a bit of a jump. There's interesting drums here which are kinda like hyping it up. You map that synth thing plenty enough, spice it up. - no

01:34:943 (8) - I was thinking this should be a 1/2 slider, because everytime that ding happened on the downbeat (a super important part of music in repetition and shit) you put a 1/2 slider which I thought worked well. - no
01:40:460 (10) - same - no
01:48:736 (14) - nc though pls and delete the one on the red tick. - ok

01:56:236 (3) - no need for 1/4 here, not in the song at all - no

02:02:184 (5,6,7,8,9) - Delete, and make timeline like this and emphasise the 1/2 appropriately :). - no 02:04:943 (5,6,7,8,1) - there's no 1/4 here at all

02:07:701 (6,7,8,9,1) - no 1/4, but you ignored the 1/4 which landed just after the previous slider. - no

02:12:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Overmapped stream, You should emphasise the drums there. You can still maintain a stream there which would start on like (5) - no/quote]

applied some of it

edit: fixed
P A N

Hula wrote:

m4m. If I've mentioned something and it's the same as something else which maps the same/very similar thing, I probably mean both of those things but haven't bothered/missed one :). Sorry about not doing the normal, this mod is already about an hour long for me.

[P A N's Light Insane]
00:02:529 (1) - why not a 1/2 slider? Not saying put one necessarily, would just like to know why, same with all the reoccurences of this. idk, I feel like want to add some 1/1 break for light insane and it's kinda the easiest part of the song (similar with the last part)
00:56:322 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I thought that this was too stationary in terms of being clumped up and confined in the bottom left corner of the map. I would change it up a bit on the 3rd bar. agreed but don't have any idea how to change without ruin the next pattern.
01:25:805 (3,4,5) - this pattern here could look more polished, like having a nice diamond shape of the whole combo. sorry, don't get this.
01:59:770 (1) - Always wondered, is this okay? I do this sort of thing frequently of course as long as it's still in the play field (check it with standard resolution.
02:01:667 - feels particularly empty for some reason this song is really repetitive so I decide to followed vocal there instead of follow the same thing and it's the last part of the map so make it relaxing to play is kinda good imo.
no mentioned = fixed, thanks :D

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66,53,91408,1,0,0:0:0:0:
66,53,91494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
205,53,91667,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,130,91839,2,0,B|81:167|81:167|87:209,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,295,92184,6,0,L|380:290,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,199,92701,2,0,P|419:151|434:51,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,112,93218,1,8,0:0:0:0:
354,187,93391,6,0,L|270:182,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,130,93736,2,0,L|171:126,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,90,94081,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,90,94167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,90,94253,1,0,0:0:0:0:
197,205,94425,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,130,94598,2,0,P|80:91|91:41,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
197,205,94943,6,0,P|215:277|191:366,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,358,95460,2,0,P|296:282|315:205,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,105,95977,1,8,0:0:0:0:
265,90,96150,6,0,L|184:91,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,105,96494,2,0,L|482:104,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,20,96839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,20,96925,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,20,97012,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,90,97184,1,2,0:0:0:0:
358,186,97356,2,0,P|398:192|441:183,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
375,339,97701,6,0,P|348:271|360:178,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,90,98218,2,0,P|219:124|114:125,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
39,34,98736,1,8,0:0:0:0:
37,154,98908,6,0,L|42:247,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,363,99253,2,0,L|118:270,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,99598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,99684,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,99770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,283,99943,1,2,0:0:0:0:
255,283,100029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,283,100115,1,8,0:0:0:0:
332,166,100287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,100460,6,0,P|163:123|181:9,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,13,100977,2,0,P|352:89|332:166,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,283,101494,1,8,0:0:0:0:
180,166,101667,6,0,L|93:169,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,166,102012,2,0,L|419:169,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
331,246,102356,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,246,102443,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,246,102529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,135,102701,1,2,0:0:0:0:
181,246,102874,2,0,P|174:286|186:331,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,351,103218,6,0,B|400:323|400:323|447:238,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,351,103736,2,0,B|112:323|112:323|65:238,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,122,104253,1,8,0:0:0:0:
181,246,104425,6,0,L|257:274,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
331,246,104770,2,0,L|255:274,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,135,105115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,135,105201,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,135,105287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,26,105460,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,26,105632,2,0,B|151:32|151:32|109:26,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,105977,6,0,P|185:208|179:252,1,80,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,166,106322,2,0,P|327:208|333:252,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,245,106667,6,0,P|169:280|142:317,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,245,107012,2,0,P|343:280|370:317,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,171,107356,6,0,P|409:92|333:59,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,107874,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,107960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,166,108046,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,166,108218,1,2,0:0:0:0:
167,60,108391,2,0,P|128:55|77:66,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,210,108736,6,0,L|186:344,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,335,109253,2,0,L|431:210,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
423,61,109770,2,0,P|384:55|345:60,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,137,110115,5,2,0:0:0:0:
255,160,110201,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,183,110287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,207,110374,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,230,110460,1,8,0:0:0:0:
255,253,110546,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,276,110632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,299,110718,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,323,110805,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,346,110891,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,369,110977,2,0,L|210:370,1,40,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,369,111150,1,8,0:0:0:0:
68,257,111322,1,0,0:0:0:0:
1,368,111494,5,2,0:0:0:0:
1,368,111667,1,2,0:0:0:0:
0,175,111839,5,2,0:0:0:0:
158,58,112184,2,0,L|242:61,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,64,112529,1,8,0:0:0:0:
512,250,112874,6,0,P|528:195|511:93,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,216,113563,2,0,P|311:259|320:302,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
422,366,113908,1,8,0:0:0:0:
383,148,114253,6,0,L|220:151,2,160,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
510,110,115115,1,2,0:0:0:0:
409,24,115287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
407,264,115632,5,2,0:0:0:0:
176,184,115977,2,0,P|131:185|87:194,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,141,116322,2,0,P|276:101|290:58,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,237,116667,2,0,P|276:275|306:309,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,351,117012,6,0,B|287:339|287:339|233:351,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
37,226,117701,2,0,P|28:188|37:140,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,45,118046,1,8,0:0:0:0:
255,141,118391,6,0,P|326:158|412:140,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,102,119081,2,0,P|171:144|180:185,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,257,119425,1,8,0:0:0:0:
507,218,119770,6,0,P|525:145|503:58,2,160,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
451,337,120632,1,2,0:0:0:0:
351,254,120805,2,0,L|272:256,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,334,121150,6,0,P|104:333|52:250,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,47,121839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,151,122012,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,151,122098,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,151,122184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
92,163,122356,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,47,122529,6,0,B|202:52|202:52|253:41|253:41|316:46,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,157,123218,2,0,L|499:242,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
505,367,123563,1,8,0:0:0:0:
359,167,123908,6,0,P|362:111|431:32,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,276,124598,2,0,P|398:295|354:300,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
257,236,124943,1,8,0:0:0:0:
107,48,125287,6,0,L|113:229,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,167,125977,2,0,L|355:86,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,76,126322,2,0,L|257:257,2,160,8|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
490,186,127356,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,66,127529,1,2,0:0:0:0:
437,66,127615,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,66,127701,2,0,L|519:69,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,167,128046,6,0,P|344:240|370:334,2,160,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,66,128908,1,2,0:0:0:0:
306,66,129081,2,0,L|222:65,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,165,129425,6,0,L|359:168,1,160,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,127,130115,2,0,P|112:171|120:209,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
213,279,130460,1,8,0:0:0:0:
201,57,130805,6,0,P|166:33|47:41,2,160,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,162,131667,1,2,0:0:0:0:
340,45,131839,1,8,0:0:0:0:
311,327,132184,5,2,0:0:0:0:
228,222,132356,1,2,0:0:0:0:
172,339,132528,1,8,0:0:0:0:
88,234,132701,1,0,0:0:0:0:
88,234,132787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
88,234,132874,1,0,0:0:0:0:
33,353,133046,1,2,0:0:0:0:
33,353,133132,1,2,0:0:0:0:
33,353,133218,1,8,0:0:0:0:
153,117,133563,5,8,0:0:0:0:
Irreversible

Lethargy wrote:

applied some of it
Please take your time and reply to the mods properly, as it will help both the modder and mapper to understand each others thoughts. Thanks!
Voli

Irreversible wrote:

Lethargy wrote:

applied some of it
Please take your time and reply to the mods properly, as it will help both the modder and mapper to understand each others thoughts. Thanks!
I agree!
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