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Nanahoshi Kangengakudan feat.Matsushita - Dance Number o Tom

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pkk
updated + fixed hitsounds on dets diff
Kibbleru

deetz wrote:

while this was mapped in a time where I was basically a different mapper I will stand by my decisions

Kibbleru wrote:

21:10 Kibbleru: 00:18:695 (5,1,2) - what r these overlaps i don't see a problem; it's structured too. the tail is sitting on the sliderbend
21:10 Kibbleru: 00:45:654 (3,4,1,2,3,1) - holy pls redo thsi part why
21:11 Kibbleru: 00:54:168 (1,2,3) - wth is this the angle changes quicker when the drums become more intense and they're grouped by visual distance in the way I think the music is grouped
21:11 Kibbleru: 00:56:499 (5,6,7) - more spacing i like this arrangement for gameplay
21:12 Kibbleru: 01:12:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - triggered what about it? it's just structure
21:12 Kibbleru: 01:18:492 (1,2) - more spacing pls 3 is emphasized
21:12 Kibbleru: 01:19:707 (2,3) - too close
21:12 Kibbleru: i mean 01:19:303 (1,2,3) - visually its fine but for gameplay i guess a stacked note can be added between 1 and 2
21:14 Kibbleru: 02:16:059 (1,2,3,1) - like shit give that poor circle some space it's fine
well i'm really sorry that I have to say this but doing things like I did in this diff was my style. much of it is based on what I felt were the musical groupings as well as tweaking that I did from testplaying. if you have stuff to say while looking from that perspective then be my guest. otherwise, this is all I can say. just pointing at things and saying wtf doesn't really help. as always i'm open to further discussion on this but I'd rather not remap and retweak things I think are completely fine.

its basically because when i looked at this map, it looked really out of ur style. and i knew u cud do better

i was kinda half meming tho i was overly exaggerating the issues q:
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ok lol

tho i will say that I couldn't replicate this now if I tried and that's part of why I don't want to change it; that and i know there was sense behind my decisions.
Kibbleru
understandable

ill irc mod with u when i feel like it some time later and maybe we can explain some things better than just me pointing things out and saying 'wtf' lol
Zero__wind
oh it's prettylewd cool
slightly easier than Lesjuh's Talent Shredder
pishifat
offsets are late
and osft clap 2 unused

ex
01:08:761 (1) - fin ish and other diffs
01:28:626 (3,4) - stack screwd up to the point of looking like a direct overlap thing ingame lol
02:01:261 - 01:02:883 - wy volume difference
02:10:653 (2) - could u not snap to nothing other diffs know it's 3/2
02:11:194 (1,2,3) - 02:13:626 (1) - first rhythm covers guitar and second doesnt um song is the same um um
03:02:275 (1,2,3,1) - weird grouping doing what u did on insane =better (so groups of 2)
04:15:957 (5,1) - repeated overalps tho
ancient rhythm techniques with those holds

deet
z

insane
00:39:370 (7,8,1) - yea ok
01:19:707 (3) - skipping heavy 1/2 stuff eee slider+circle >
02:15:383 (2,3,4) - could u not do so much unnecessary offbeat 1/3 stuff like

hard
01:10:383 (1,2) - 1/2 sliders not realy supported keep them for the 01:24:572 (5,6) - important stuff
00:55:788 (1,2) - tailz

normal
02:31:464 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 02:44:437 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - gaps somewehre pls chain is huge

easy
01:00:653 (1) - big boy slider maybe better than reversing on nothing azsz
or do 01:46:059 (2,3,1) - this thing it works
01:59:032 (2,3,4) - just as ew as the reverse slider

best part about being a bn is that ur mods for m4m can be garbage as long as a bubble is included
Topic Starter
pkk

pishifat wrote:

offsets are late I checked offset again, the kicks are on beat but some claps end up being 3-4 ms late while others are completely fine so idk lo
and osft clap 2 unused destroyd clap2 and slide2

ex
01:08:761 (1) - fin ish and other diffs yea
01:28:626 (3,4) - stack screwd up to the point of looking like a direct overlap thing ingame lol stack = fixd to the right to the left
02:01:261 - 01:02:883 - wy volume difference 4got to change
02:10:653 (2) - could u not snap to nothing other diffs know it's 3/2 oops.
02:11:194 (1,2,3) - 02:13:626 (1) - first rhythm covers guitar and second doesnt um song is the same um um yh eAH fix
03:02:275 (1,2,3,1) - weird grouping doing what u did on insane =better (so groups of 2) ok did
04:15:957 (5,1) - repeated overalps tho I think this is ok but 5 was screwed up because of the slider so i moved the slider and now it's all pretty
ancient rhythm techniques with those holds oldie but a goodie hold me like you hold them sliders

deet
z

insane
00:39:370 (7,8,1) - yea ok I was wondering why that slider was so long
01:19:707 (3) - skipping heavy 1/2 stuff eee slider+circle > 2 circle + slider
02:15:383 (2,3,4) - could u not do so much unnecessary offbeat 1/3 stuff like
gud idea

hard
01:10:383 (1,2) - 1/2 sliders not realy supported keep them for the 01:24:572 (5,6) - important stuff k
00:55:788 (1,2) - tailz idk how shit like this always gets unsnapped, hitsound copier even breaks because random shit becomes unsnapped

normal
02:31:464 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 02:44:437 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - gaps somewehre pls chain is huge broke chain about a bar and a half in

easy
01:00:653 (1) - big boy slider maybe better than reversing on nothing azsz
or do 01:46:059 (2,3,1) - this thing it works made a caillou slider
01:59:032 (2,3,4) - just as ew as the reverse slider did slider + circle like the thing

best part about being a bn is that ur mods for m4m can be garbage as long as a bubble is included d
thx pish :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: i
pishifat
have asked and other people also say offsets are late :( can u check again or something
Topic Starter
pkk
took the average ms late/early from some of my plays and decided to -7 offset
pishifat
:arrow:
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Mikii
BOI HE BOUT TO DO IT
Topic Starter
pkk
let me know before this gets icon d so I can update timing point volumes b4 ran k
Topic Starter
pkk
self-popped to raise kiai volumes by ~10%
Spaghetti

2016-09-02 15:13 Spaghetti: hi pkk!
2016-09-02 15:13 pkk: it's time
2016-09-02 15:13 pkk: 2 meme
2016-09-02 15:13 Spaghetti: ok
2016-09-02 15:14 pkk: how was comp sci class
2016-09-02 15:14 Spaghetti: fun
2016-09-02 15:14 Spaghetti: finished my unit 1 assignments
2016-09-02 15:14 Spaghetti: X d
2016-09-02 15:14 pkk: n i CEE
2016-09-02 15:15 pkk: just wait until u get into recursion and all that f u n stuff
2016-09-02 15:15 Spaghetti: soft hitclap2
2016-09-02 15:15 Spaghetti: is unused
2016-09-02 15:15 Spaghetti: delete pls
2016-09-02 15:16 pkk: oh did you use the hitsound checker thing
2016-09-02 15:16 pkk: you need to delete set and redownload
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: i did
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: trho
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: wt
2016-09-02 15:16 pkk: because i already deleted from pishis mod
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: f
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: ew
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: ]rdf
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: af
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: ds
2016-09-02 15:16 Spaghetti: afsd
2016-09-02 15:16 pkk: ? ?
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: ithink i forgot to delete
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: i just
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: redld
2016-09-02 15:17 pkk: p ro bably
2016-09-02 15:17 pkk: anyways i popped bubble to raise kiai volume + delete slider slide
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: ye
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: wait delete wot sliderslide
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: u mean lik
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: delete a file
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: or remove the sound
2016-09-02 15:17 pkk: the silent soft and normal slider slide wav file
2016-09-02 15:17 Spaghetti: kk
2016-09-02 15:19 pkk: 01:33:079 - removed this NC in easy diff
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: ok dad
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: is it evn lik
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: e
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: worth
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: to mod placements
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: holy
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: pishi checked - _ -
2016-09-02 15:20 pkk: l ol
2016-09-02 15:20 pkk: up to you !
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: i think ima just check hitsounds
2016-09-02 15:20 Spaghetti: and nc's
2016-09-02 15:21 Spaghetti: lol
2016-09-02 15:21 pkk: ok
2016-09-02 15:21 Spaghetti: are hitsounds copied
2016-09-02 15:21 pkk: ye
2016-09-02 15:21 Spaghetti: kk
2016-09-02 15:21 pkk: but i think my hitsound copier got bugged after because of all ten million red liens i put near the beginning
2016-09-02 15:22 pkk: but it's no big deal since i copied them alla lready before it broke
2016-09-02 15:24 Spaghetti: it doesnt that all the time lo
2016-09-02 15:24 Spaghetti: idk y
2016-09-02 15:25 Spaghetti: 9its just a red line glitch tho
2016-09-02 15:25 Spaghetti: 00:54:869 (1) - totally personal preference but mayb change this to circle 1/2 slider?
2016-09-02 15:25 Spaghetti: i lik consistency and im gya
2016-09-02 15:25 Spaghetti: jk i think it jsut plays be tter idk
2016-09-02 15:26 Spaghetti: 01:00:748 (2) - nc to make stack reading easier?
2016-09-02 15:26 Spaghetti: u kinda did it at 00:03:488 (1) -
2016-09-02 15:27 Spaghetti: 01:01:761 (1,2,3) - space these out more to foreshadow super ultra speed slider?
2016-09-02 15:28 Spaghetti: 01:09:565 (1,2,3,4) - duplicating the rhythm at 01:08:754 (1,2,3) - would help prevent weird rhythm gap at 01:09:971 (3,4) -
2016-09-02 15:29 pkk: changed slider to circle + 1/2 slider, left NC becuase the other pattern was a bti different and unstacked
2016-09-02 15:29 pkk: spaced sliders out
2016-09-02 15:29 Spaghetti: mk
2016-09-02 15:29 Spaghetti: 01:19:092 (3) - changing up this sliders shape and speed would be cool to compliment the huge rise in miku pitch
2016-09-02 15:30 Spaghetti: 01:36:930 (4,1,2) - even out spacing?
2016-09-02 15:30 pkk: good idea, but I think the upwards curve is a nice shap and using some complicated shape would make it look kind of weird
2016-09-02 15:30 pkk: + the angle is good at accentuating the pitch $$
2016-09-02 15:31 Spaghetti: $$
2016-09-02 15:31 pkk: fixed spacing
2016-09-02 15:32 Spaghetti: 01:45:140 (4) - shouldnt this be ncd
2016-09-02 15:32 pkk: ur write
2016-09-02 15:34 Spaghetti: 02:10:680 (2) - is there supposed to be an nc on this repeat?
2016-09-02 15:34 Spaghetti: er
2016-09-02 15:34 Spaghetti: LOL
2016-09-02 15:34 Spaghetti: a kick*****
2016-09-02 15:35 pkk: yea there is
2016-09-02 15:35 pkk: but there isn't supposed to be one ont he tail
2016-09-02 15:36 Spaghetti: o
2016-09-02 15:36 Spaghetti: ok
2016-09-02 15:36 Spaghetti: 02:44:937 (2) - mayb nc this to help with readability?
2016-09-02 15:36 Spaghetti: 02:57:910 (2) - ^
2016-09-02 15:38 pkk: oh god that first pattern looks terrible
2016-09-02 15:38 pkk: h aha ha throwback thursday
2016-09-02 15:38 pkk: :gun
2016-09-02 15:39 Spaghetti: 03:46:964 (2) - make this so its parallel to 03:47:167 (3) - ?
2016-09-02 15:39 pkk: don
2016-09-02 15:40 Spaghetti: such a cool ending jesus
2016-09-02 15:40 pkk: lo tha nk dud
2016-09-02 15:40 pkk: tribute 2 val
2016-09-02 15:40 pkk: the parallel straight sliders
2016-09-02 15:40 Spaghetti: yehaj
2016-09-02 15:41 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/897968 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [Insane]]
2016-09-02 15:41 Spaghetti: 00:19:700 (1) - is this supposed to be ncd
2016-09-02 15:42 Spaghetti: 00:47:471 (4) - move this just a teeny bit to the bottom left
2016-09-02 15:42 Spaghetti: so its stacked
2016-09-02 15:42 Spaghetti: kinda hard to read without it
2016-09-02 15:43 pkk: one sec im getting a unable to write to file bug
2016-09-02 15:43 pkk: too manyu red liens lo
2016-09-02 15:43 Spaghetti: same
2016-09-02 15:43 Spaghetti: jk not same
2016-09-02 15:43 pkk: k fixed
2016-09-02 15:43 pkk: :[]
2016-09-02 15:44 pkk: removd nc
2016-09-02 15:45 pkk: also fixed that whole stack part with the square, idkw hat happened but my square turned into a trapezoid.
2016-09-02 15:45 Spaghetti: same
2016-09-02 15:47 Spaghetti: 03:32:065 (3) - nc?
2016-09-02 15:47 Spaghetti: then remove nc at 03:32:673 (1) -
2016-09-02 15:48 pkk: don
2016-09-02 15:48 Spaghetti: same at 03:58:011 (3) -
2016-09-02 15:48 Spaghetti: with 03:58:619 (1) -
2016-09-02 15:48 pkk: holy that 3 tilts me
2016-09-02 15:49 Spaghetti: LOL
2016-09-02 15:51 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/821335 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [Hard]]
2016-09-02 15:51 Spaghetti: remove en see
2016-09-02 15:51 Spaghetti: at 00:11:593 (1) -
2016-09-02 15:53 pkk: [x]
2016-09-02 15:54 pkk: [x] yea
2016-09-02 16:00 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/821337 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [Normal]]
2016-09-02 16:01 Spaghetti: 04:16:356 (1) -
2016-09-02 16:01 Spaghetti: is this supposed to be ncd
2016-09-02 16:01 pkk: yea i thot it would be cool 1 year ago
2016-09-02 16:01 pkk: but now nah
2016-09-02 16:01 pkk: :gun
2016-09-02 16:01 Spaghetti: gun
2016-09-02 16:02 Spaghetti: 00:57:403 (1) - kil nc
2016-09-02 16:02 Spaghetti: 00:59:025 (3) - add here
2016-09-02 16:02 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/806275 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [Easy]]
2016-09-02 16:02 Spaghetti: in the ez
2016-09-02 16:03 Spaghetti: then remove the one at 01:00:646 (1) - if u want
2016-09-02 16:03 pkk: oh i updated nc for easy diff
2016-09-02 16:03 pkk: did you update diff
2016-09-02 16:03 Spaghetti: o
2016-09-02 16:03 Spaghetti: n
2016-09-02 16:03 Spaghetti: lol
2016-09-02 16:03 pkk: i 4got to tell ahah
2016-09-02 16:03 pkk: ha
2016-09-02 16:03 pkk: hAAA
2016-09-02 16:04 Spaghetti: 01:29:836 (1) - kil nc?
2016-09-02 16:04 Spaghetti: im p sure u told me i just didnt update lol
2016-09-02 16:04 Spaghetti: 01:33:079 (1) - also mayb kil nc?
2016-09-02 16:05 pkk: ye kild
2016-09-02 16:05 pkk: rest in pec
2016-09-02 16:05 Spaghetti: 02:15:241 (1) - also kil
2016-09-02 16:05 pkk: ya kild
2016-09-02 16:06 Spaghetti: 02:54:160 (1) - ya
2016-09-02 16:06 pkk: boy
2016-09-02 16:06 Spaghetti: 03:13:619 (1) -
2016-09-02 16:06 Spaghetti: 03:16:863 (1) -
2016-09-02 16:06 pkk: ya
2016-09-02 16:06 pkk: boy
2016-09-02 16:06 pkk: hell
2016-09-02 16:06 pkk: yea
2016-09-02 16:08 Spaghetti: 04:00:646 (3) -
2016-09-02 16:08 Spaghetti: nc
2016-09-02 16:08 pkk: yed
2016-09-02 16:08 Spaghetti: 04:02:268 (1) - remove if u want
2016-09-02 16:08 pkk: ded
2016-09-02 16:12 Spaghetti: tlaking to deetz on dsiscor
2016-09-02 16:12 Spaghetti: d
2016-09-02 16:12 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/821336 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [deetz' Insane]]
2016-09-02 16:12 Spaghetti: 00:45:646 (1) -
2016-09-02 16:12 Spaghetti: nc pls
2016-09-02 16:12 pkk: did u copy right time
2016-09-02 16:13 pkk: o
2016-09-02 16:13 pkk: k
2016-09-02 16:13 pkk: ncd
2016-09-02 16:13 Spaghetti: 01:18:079 (3) -
2016-09-02 16:13 Spaghetti: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/821336 Nanahoshi Kangengakudan - Dance Number o Tomo ni [deetz' Insane]]
2016-09-02 16:13 Spaghetti: nc*
2016-09-02 16:14 Spaghetti: mfw i npd
2016-09-02 16:14 pkk: [x]
2016-09-02 16:18 Spaghetti: ok
2016-09-02 16:18 Spaghetti: giv metadata sourc
2016-09-02 16:19 pkk: me
2016-09-02 16:19 pkk: 1 sec
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: i 4got where i found
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: but you can also see here http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Nanahoshi_Kangengakudan
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: ctrl f dance number
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: however in the way we romanise shit the wo --> o
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: confurmd by okorin
2016-09-02 16:20 pkk: p/4781089
2016-09-02 16:21 pkk: anyways updated mepd
2016-09-02 16:21 Spaghetti: kkk
2016-09-02 16:21 Spaghetti: alright
2016-09-02 16:22 Spaghetti: u ready?
2016-09-02 16:22 pkk: hell yea dude
2016-09-02 16:22 pkk: my mom is yelling 4 me to hurry the fuk up and eat dinner l OLZ
2016-09-02 16:22 Spaghetti: kk
2016-09-02 16:22 Spaghetti: LOL
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grats on bn
[-CeMAqpOP-]kee
i enjoy how pkk stole the bg straight from an arelequin map and still got it qualified despite the pg13 backgrounds rule.
do people not give a fuck anymore? go remove it from the wiki if nobody from the QAT is gonna pay attention to it.

btw using the same bg isnt my point no beef plz..
Spaghetti

Fser wrote:

i enjoy how pkk stole the bg straight from an arelequin map and still got it qualified despite the pg13 backgrounds rule.
do people not give a fuck anymore? go remove it from the wiki if nobody from the QAT is gonna pay attention to it.

btw using the same bg isnt my point no beef plz..
there is literally nothing nsfw about the bg
Exote
dank gzgz
Doormat

Fser wrote:

i enjoy how pkk stole the bg straight from an arelequin map and still got it qualified despite the pg13 backgrounds rule.
do people not give a fuck anymore? go remove it from the wiki if nobody from the QAT is gonna pay attention to it.

btw using the same bg isnt my point no beef plz..
oh no, the back is exposed how lewd please dq for indecent background ./s

the background is perfectly fine. how is it not pg13?
Luna-
i think i'm pkk
Agatsu

Luna- wrote:

i think i'm pkk
thzz
wow finally

gratz!
looking forward to go to ranked :3
Shiranai
Some things on dance number,

02:59:025 (1) - That slider path on that one not really clear to read and might misleading players when playing, either we should follow the slider ball clockwise or counter-clockwise on the full circle slider part https://puu.sh/qYlwL/00a9da4a07.png

Also 04:10:781 (3) - Shouldn't that nc as well? like you did on 03:44:836 (1) - ? similliar patterning with the anti jump, I think the nc should be at least more consistent here

The song reminds me a lot when I first play this game :(
Luel Roseline

Spaghetti wrote:

Satellite
matsushitaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Topic Starter
pkk

Mako Sakata wrote:

Some things on dance number,

02:59:025 (1) - That slider path on that one not really clear to read and might misleading players when playing, either we should follow the slider ball clockwise or counter-clockwise on the full circle slider part https://puu.sh/qYlwL/00a9da4a07.png I think the current shape is pretty intuitive since the first part of the sliderpath is going left, so it curves into the circle quite nicely

Also 04:10:781 (3) - Shouldn't that nc as well? like you did on 03:44:836 (1) - ? similliar patterning with the anti jump, I think the nc should be at least more consistent here yea I forgot lol, although it isn't that big of a deal since I've used this exact same rhythm in the other two kiais before consistently so I don't think the missing NC will make it harder to read or anything

The song reminds me a lot when I first play this game :( me too : /
thanks mako :oops:
Myxo
I actually agree with the sliderpath being quite misleading.

Sure, it makes sense that it goes to the left because it's coming from the right but I heard some complaints about it from players misreading it and the same happened to me too when playing. It would be best to overlap the tail with the path just slightly, not putting it fully on the slider's path.

Also you have the chance to fix that NC now :b Nice map btw.
Topic Starter
pkk
shieet while I'm at it I may as well edit the matsushita mp3 and swap it in so people will stop complaining
Okoratu
http://puu.sh/qYuTI/96527b0fd7.jpg
or something would be way more clear, wouldnt alter your intention and would take like 30 seconds to change
Topic Starter
pkk
ye a boy i just ended up doing this
Topic Starter
pkk
Fixed slider + added NC. Changed mp3 from moki to matsushita; offset is unchanged because I had both mp3s at the same offset from before

Metadata from EXIT TUNES PRESENTS Kamikyoku wo Utatte Mita 6

ナナホシ管弦楽団 feat.松下 / Nanahoshi Kangengakudan feat.Matsushita





edit: I forgot that dets needs to change his rhythm in his diff still, I'll let u kno when its fixd pishi d
7ambda
Which is the official mp3, the utaite version or the Nanahoshi Kagengakudan one? I keep getting the utaite version every time I download the map, but I still hear the other mp3 in the preview.
Topic Starter
pkk

F1r3tar wrote:

Which is the official mp3, the utaite version or the Nanahoshi Kagengakudan one? I keep getting the utaite version every time I download the map, but I still hear the other mp3 in the preview.
the website preview doesn't update instantly
DakeDekaane
You can't be serious about the BG.
Spaghetti

DakeDekaane wrote:

You can't be serious about the BG.
what? what's wrong with it?
7ambda

Spaghetti wrote:

what? what's wrong with it?
Kind of PG-13ish with the way she's striking that pose.
Ascendance
Its fine, the QAT already confirmed its okay lets move on now

source: im a qat
Topic Starter
pkk
updated with dets' changes
SPOILER
04:01:457 (5) - added circle
04:09:363 (5,1,2,3) - changed pattern

ready2go
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Cheer up :)
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