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WingSilent

Joined August 2012

WingSilent 2016-09-28T14:30:13+00:00

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Modding by Lumy

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[Normal]
00:12:688 (2,3) - Blanket could be arranged here.
00:17:354 (1,3) - Why not doing them symetrical and with the same shape ?
00:24:021 (4) - I think you can use rotation of 15° clockwise on this. it looks better with the next and previous circle.
00:26:688 (4) - Same thing could apply here, for the flow purpose. (This flow 00:29:021 (3,4) - is an exemple)
00:47:354 (2,3) - Slighty blanket arrange needed.
00:50:688 (3,5) - ^
00:51:354 (5,2) - It's possible to avoid this overlap. :3
01:56:021 (1,2) - Can you make the same curve on both sliders ?
02:52:521 (4) - I would suggest to curve this one, it flows way better.

[Advanced]
I think you can make the AR from 3.5 to 3.8. 4 is too high for a 2,8 stars diff, imo.

00:24:021 (3,4) - Avoid or improve this overlap maybe ?
01:32:021 (7) - NC.
01:37:354 (6) - NC.
01:40:021 (6) - NC.
01:42:688 (6) - NC.
01:45:354 (6) - NC.
02:14:688 (1,2) - This flows weird, the first slider goes left and the 2nd is at the right.

[Jinx's Hard]
00:47:688 (5) - Slighty curve this one to fit the shape of 00:48:188 (2) - ?
01:11:854 (1,2) - I'm not totally sure, but you can try to make a blanket on this.
01:58:688 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't have much to say, but this is so clean :3
02:19:688 (5) - Slighty curve this ?

[Insane]
00:25:688 (3) - Curve slighty to the left ?
00:33:354 (7,1) - I think this gap is confusing, the spacing is the same while there's nothing here 00:33:521 - i'd suggest to stack (1) on (7)
01:33:271 - | 01:35:938 - Oh, i though you were keeping the chain of triplets you did before. Like this 01:29:021 (5,6,1,3,4,5,7,8,1) -
02:43:854 (5) - | 02:46:521 (5) - This is a good hit, but it is better to be clicked, instead of click-released by a slider end. There are more, but i estimate that i don't need to quote them all. ^^

I hope this mod helps, and i couldn't mod the 2 extras, i don't have enough experience into modding for this kind of extras, and they are high modded already, like the whole map. You're good!

_vanity

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

_vanity 2016-09-28T15:29:28+00:00

Lumy wrote:
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Modding by Lumy

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[Normal]
00:12:688 (2,3) - Blanket could be arranged here. Fixed.
00:17:354 (1,3) - Why not doing them symetrical and with the same shape ? Nice idea, but I really like having a variety of different slider shapes. :>
00:24:021 (4) - I think you can use rotation of 15° clockwise on this. it looks better with the next and previous circle. Sure. I also adjusted the position of the slider end.
00:26:688 (4) - Same thing could apply here, for the flow purpose. (This flow 00:29:021 (3,4) - is an exemple) Adjusted.
00:47:354 (2,3) - Slighty blanket arrange needed. Adjusted.
00:50:688 (3,5) - ^ Adjusted.
00:51:354 (5,2) - It's possible to avoid this overlap. :3 Overlap fixed.
01:56:021 (1,2) - Can you make the same curve on both sliders ? Sure.
02:52:521 (4) - I would suggest to curve this one, it flows way better. I swapped this out for an angled slider instead, because It looked really weird next to the previous curved slider.

[Advanced]
I think you can make the AR from 3.5 to 3.8. 4 is too high for a 2,8 stars diff, imo. I'll change the "CS" to 3.7. Seems like a better idea. :>

00:24:021 (3,4) - Avoid or improve this overlap maybe ? Everyone hates this damn overlap. Changing it.
01:32:021 (7) - NC.
01:37:354 (6) - NC.
01:40:021 (6) - NC.
01:42:688 (6) - NC.
01:45:354 (6) - NC. Fixed all above NC issues.
02:14:688 (1,2) - This flows weird, the first slider goes left and the 2nd is at the right. Flipped the first slider.

[Insane]
00:25:688 (3) - Curve slighty to the left ? Sure.
00:33:354 (7,1) - I think this gap is confusing, the spacing is the same while there's nothing here 00:33:521 - i'd suggest to stack (1) on (7) Nice catch. I do agree with you, but I changed this in a much different way.
01:33:271 - | 01:35:938 - Oh, i though you were keeping the chain of triplets you did before. Like this 01:29:021 (5,6,1,3,4,5,7,8,1) - I think the transition into slider triples is okay. If it feels nice to play, I don't see a problem. :>
02:43:854 (5) - | 02:46:521 (5) - This is a good hit, but it is better to be clicked, instead of click-released by a slider end. There are more, but i estimate that i don't need to quote them all. ^^ I think this is alright. It flows quite nicely.

I hope this mod helps, and i couldn't mod the 2 extras, i don't have enough experience into modding for this kind of extras, and they are high modded already, like the whole map. You're good!

Thanks, Lumy! I'll be returning the favor very soon!

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

J1NX1337 2016-09-28T21:14:01+00:00

Lumy wrote:
[Jinx's Hard]
00:47:688 (5) - Slighty curve this one to fit the shape of 00:48:188 (2) - ? - I'd prefer to keep it consistent with the rest of the pattern, which uses straight sliders, and curving all of them would kinda mess with the pattern too much, I think.
01:11:854 (1,2) - I'm not totally sure, but you can try to make a blanket on this. - I don't really see how a blanket would fit here.
01:58:688 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't have much to say, but this is so clean :3 - Thanks!
02:19:688 (5) - Slighty curve this ? - I think it looks nicer when it's straight

Unfortunately none of your suggestions really worked out for me, but thanks for modding anyway!

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-10-23T23:51:19+00:00

lol

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148,188,158521,6,0,P|152:116|187:62,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,235,158854,2,0,P|286:267|222:264,1,100,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,40,159188,2,0,P|360:79|389:136,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
426,341,159521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
466,152,159688,2,0,B|471:214|471:214|453:261|453:261,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,156,160021,5,8,0:0:0:0:
395,174,160188,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,78,160354,1,12,0:0:0:0:
329,238,160521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,203,160688,1,8,0:0:0:0:
262,160,160854,1,8,0:0:0:0:
129,321,161021,1,12,0:0:0:0:
280,29,161188,38,0,B|327:185|180:143|263:326,1,279.999991455078,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,84,161688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
117,206,161854,2,0,P|61:115|209:121,1,279.999991455078,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,357,162354,53,4,0:0:0:0:
260,373,162437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
213,364,162520,1,8,0:0:0:0:
177,331,162604,1,8,0:0:0:0:
164,284,162688,38,0,B|208:256|208:256|272:264,1,100,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
103,100,163021,2,0,L|113:242,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,62,163354,2,0,P|357:37|424:58,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,261,163688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
202,20,163854,6,0,L|215:197,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
246,177,164188,2,0,P|308:141|364:147,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,261,164521,2,0,P|133:311|114:356,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,69,164854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
90,168,165021,2,0,P|18:159|-16:116,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,178,165354,53,8,0:0:0:0:
209,309,165521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
285,87,165688,2,0,L|410:95,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
97,301,166021,2,0,B|78:215|136:232|108:132,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,112,166354,1,4,0:0:0:0:
290,285,166521,22,0,B|314:343|314:343|301:411,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,99,166854,2,0,B|198:41|198:41|211:-27,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,164,167188,2,0,B|455:155|455:155|507:110,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,232,167521,1,4,0:0:0:0:
310,75,167688,2,0,P|318:157|280:250,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,301,168021,6,0,L|353:318,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,64,168354,2,0,P|98:126|126:188,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,160,168688,2,0,P|414:111|402:64,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
225,283,169021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
303,17,169188,6,0,P|326:60|331:110,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,312,169521,2,0,P|120:261|142:217,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
379,211,169854,2,0,B|369:267|369:267|376:299|376:299|365:363,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,372,170188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
463,212,170354,1,4,0:0:0:0:
255,251,170521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
359,50,170688,54,0,L|501:28,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
153,50,171021,2,0,L|11:28,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,236,171354,1,8,0:0:0:0:
263,40,171521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,223,171688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
345,120,171854,22,0,P|409:116|464:138,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,348,172188,1,4,0:0:0:0:
204,124,172354,1,8,0:0:0:0:
358,356,172521,1,4,0:0:0:0:
334,132,172687,1,8,0:0:0:0:
129,263,172854,1,4,0:0:0:0:
405,205,173021,2,0,P|340:221|333:319,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
413,213,173354,6,0,L|409:92,1,100,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,113,173688,2,0,L|99:212,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
361,34,174021,2,0,P|425:22|473:43,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,179,174354,1,4,0:0:0:0:
409,113,174521,6,0,L|399:237,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
182,19,174854,2,0,L|310:10,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,274,175188,2,0,B|110:223|134:178|163:192|137:94,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,88,175521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,244,175688,2,0,P|322:309|308:349,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
267,89,176021,53,8,0:0:0:0:
399,263,176188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,182,176354,2,0,P|67:171|16:207,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,11,176688,2,0,L|244:118,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
358,318,177021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
403,69,177188,22,0,P|418:125|399:192,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
99,165,177521,2,0,P|93:116|108:69,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,316,177854,2,0,L|117:325,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,187,178188,1,4,0:0:0:0:
108,68,178354,2,0,P|110:35|180:76,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
153,150,178688,6,0,L|25:136,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,22,179021,2,0,L|286:142,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,342,179354,2,0,L|157:222,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,76,179688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
153,150,179854,6,0,P|82:143|44:105,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,76,180188,2,0,L|517:88,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,247,180521,2,0,P|177:300|182:364,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,186,180854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,75,181021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
301,290,181188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,15,181354,54,0,L|305:135,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,354,181688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,15,181854,2,0,L|207:135,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,353,182188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
121,189,182354,1,4,0:0:0:0:
387,135,182521,22,0,P|336:185|273:184,1,100,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,38,182854,2,0,P|141:54|171:93,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,364,183188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
313,100,183354,1,8,0:0:0:0:
396,323,183521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
241,64,183688,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,27,183771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,20,183854,1,8,0:0:0:0:
371,38,183938,1,8,0:0:0:0:
393,82,184021,70,0,L|376:199,1,100,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,297,184354,2,0,P|102:223|119:168,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,285,184688,1,8,0:0:0:0:
179,366,184854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
258,88,185021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
265,323,185188,1,4,0:0:0:0:
241,65,185354,6,0,P|180:39|130:55,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,223,185688,2,0,L|525:209,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
225,168,186021,1,8,0:0:0:0:
357,348,186188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,60,186354,2,0,P|307:142|280:230,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,244,186688,6,0,L|121:231,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,123,187021,2,0,L|449:242,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
165,127,187354,1,8,0:0:0:0:
389,26,187521,1,4,0:0:0:0:
322,276,187688,1,4,0:0:0:0:
200,41,187854,6,0,B|138:22|83:54|128:60|49:108|-25:72,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,35,188354,1,4,0:0:0:0:
144,264,188521,2,0,P|95:188|189:123,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
363,283,189021,2,0,B|330:313|330:313|306:399,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
429,187,189354,6,0,B|419:143|419:143|357:79,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,103,189604,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,103,189688,2,0,B|330:108|330:108|256:86,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,26,190021,1,8,0:0:0:0:
262,240,190188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
262,240,190271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
262,240,190354,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,1,190521,1,4,0:0:0:0:
391,240,190688,6,0,L|367:360,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,108,191021,2,0,L|306:90,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
105,333,191354,2,0,L|89:383,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,152,191521,2,0,L|66:99,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
210,300,191688,2,0,L|279:315,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
49,249,191854,2,0,L|-7:258,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,196,192021,102,0,B|298:176|298:176|361:200,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
387,281,192271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
387,281,192354,2,0,L|374:411,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
166,79,192688,1,8,0:0:0:0:
441,209,192854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
441,209,192938,1,0,0:0:0:0:
441,209,193021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
145,281,193188,6,0,B|161:237|161:237|160:170,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
346,29,193521,2,0,L|303:142,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
154,379,193854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
38,182,194021,2,0,L|15:136,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,211,194188,2,0,L|301:270,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
63,294,194354,2,0,L|3:307,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,97,194521,2,0,L|196:32,1,50,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

fixed everything except for the last point you had. I'm mapping the piano only in that section because i have mapped this same thing to vocals 9 times already and if im not deaf there's a clear piano hit there ? slliderends in really energetic sections weren't muted because i think their effect adds instead of takes from the map in these cases.

thanks!!

Arutsuki

630 posts

Joined December 2015

Arutsuki 2016-12-04T21:44:03+00:00

hello there
so
m4m

insane

00:16:354 (2,3) - make the spacing the same as 00:15:688 (5,1) - , if not bigger
00:17:271 (6) - I don't hear a sound here, not really a problem but consider deleting it
00:19:938 (7) - ^
00:31:938 (8) - ^ etc
00:33:354 (7) - I think a 1/2 slider here would work well instead, theres another sound between this and next note even if it's faint
00:45:354 (3,4) - make this same spacing as 00:44:354 (2,3) - same sound
00:47:354 (4) - ctrl+g and curve it the other way towards the next circle

nice map gl with rank

_vanity

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

_vanity 2016-12-04T21:46:37+00:00

Thank you for the stars! I will be returning the favor very soon.

_vanity

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

_vanity 2016-12-05T05:50:01+00:00

Arutsuki wrote:
00:16:354 (2,3) - make the spacing the same as 00:15:688 (5,1) - , if not bigger The problem with that is, is that (5) and (1) don't provide the same emphasis as (2) and (3).
00:17:271 (6) - I don't hear a sound here, not really a problem but consider deleting it This is here for emphasis of the new measure.
00:19:938 (7) - ^
00:31:938 (8) - ^ etc
00:33:354 (7) - I think a 1/2 slider here would work well instead, theres another sound between this and next note even if it's faint I really want that vocal emphasis there.
00:45:354 (3,4) - make this same spacing as 00:44:354 (2,3) - same sound Fixed.
00:47:354 (4) - ctrl+g and curve it the other way towards the next circle The flow between these notes work just fine.

Thanks for the mod!

Aniviuh

216 posts

Joined January 2015

Aniviuh 2016-12-05T22:57:54+00:00

There isn't much I can find considering the map is very polished but I did my best :ss
- Normal -
02:08:188 (3) - (Optional) Make this slider shorter, move back to the previous red tick on timeline. (Just feels nice)
02:24:521 (4) - (Optional) Make this slider shorter, move back to the previous red tick on timeline. (Just feels nice)
- Advanced -
01:33:854 (5) - Make this some sort of curved slider, like the previous ones.
01:51:688 (3) - Make this like 01:50:688 (1) - but flipped Horizonally <-lol
01:54:354 (3) - Make this some sort of curved slider, like the previous ones. (1 I mean)
02:30:688 (1) - Oh cmon you toats missed the oportunity to make one of those sliders that have a red anchor point at each 4th. (Some thing like this.

) http://imgur.com/a/gNyx6
- Insane -
None that I could find.

Good Lunch! <3

_vanity

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

_vanity 2016-12-06T00:23:58+00:00

ViolentBoo wrote:
- Normal -
02:08:188 (3) - (Optional) Make this slider shorter, move back to the previous red tick on timeline. (Just feels nice) I can't really agree with this, considering this slider ends on a vocal.
02:24:521 (4) - (Optional) Make this slider shorter, move back to the previous red tick on timeline. (Just feels nice) I honestly don't see how doing this would feel better at all. This follows the rhythm just fine.
- Advanced -
01:33:854 (5) - Make this some sort of curved slider, like the previous ones. Why?
01:51:688 (3) - Make this like 01:50:688 (1) - but flipped Horizonally <-lol
01:54:354 (3) - Make this some sort of curved slider, like the previous ones. (1 I mean)
02:30:688 (1) - Oh cmon you toats missed the oportunity to make one of those sliders that have a red anchor point at each 4th. (Some thing like this. ) I am very confused.

Thanks, but no changes will be made.

DeletedUser_3638005

DeletedUser_3638005 2016-12-06T18:53:10+00:00

hi

[General]

Unused hitsounds:
soft-slidertick8.wav

[Normal]

You could probably completely get rid of these 00:10:688 (1,2) - sliders and have the map start from 00:12:021 (1) - here. It's a normal diff so these two starting sliders are completely unnecessary.
00:25:354 (1) - Try making this circle a 1/2 slider, and starting a 1/2 slider on 00:26:021 - this beat. It's very strong, so you should consider making it clickable. Same goes for 00:28:021 (1,2,3) - this.
01:04:188 (3,4) - I don't like the rhythm you are using here, it seems like these sliders don't follow anything. Consider doing Ctrl + G so you get this rhythm but fix the spacing after. If you do that, it's also consistent with the rhythm of the second kiai 02:51:354 (2,3,4) - .

Also what caught my eye about your Normal is the distinctive lack of patterning. It seems like the map is a continuous circle. Your notes appear like they don't interact with each other, so maybe look into that.

[Advanced]

00:13:021 (4) - Make this a circle and start your 1/1 slider here 00:13:188 - . Oh and put a hitcircle 00:13:688 - here after. You focus on the strong beats this way. Same for 00:18:354 (4,5) - this.
00:33:021 (5) - I suggest splitting this slider into two circles. The whole pattern has been sliders up until now, so emphasizing on the most intense beats of the section with some circles would be nice!
01:57:354 (5) - For the same reason as above, consider replacing this reverse slider with hitcircles. If you think it's going to raise the difficulty too much (I tested it, it goes to 2.6 from 2.48) then you can do 2 sets of 2 stacked hitcircles, which only makes it go from 2.48 to 2.51.
03:05:188 - You should also emphasize on this beat by making clickable, try using the rhythm I mentioned above!

[Insane]

00:55:854 (5) - Why not split this slider into two? It will be more consistent with the rhythm you used on the second kiai 02:43:854 (5,6) - . I feel like it sounds too empty like that.
01:00:021 (1) - Same for this 02:48:021 (1,2) - .
02:25:188 (9,1) - Isn't this spacing a little too much?

You follow the rhythm nicely on the insane for the most part, the are some beats that you chose to ignore but that's fine since it's only an Insane.

Good luck! (◕‿◕✿)

_vanity

208 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

_vanity 2016-12-07T10:06:33+00:00

Riven wrote:
hi

[General]
Unused hitsounds:
soft-slidertick8.wav Fixed.

[Normal]
You could probably completely get rid of these 00:10:688 (1,2) - sliders and have the map start from 00:12:021 (1) - here. It's a normal diff so these two starting sliders are completely unnecessary. Fixed.
00:25:354 (1) - Try making this circle a 1/2 slider, and starting a 1/2 slider on 00:26:021 - this beat. It's very strong, so you should consider making it clickable. Same goes for 00:28:021 (1,2,3) - this. I was really aiming to emphasize the piano here. If I did this, I think it would ruin it. The sound you're talking about is somewhat faint, but I will probably consider this change.
01:04:188 (3,4) - I don't like the rhythm you are using here, it seems like these sliders don't follow anything. Consider doing Ctrl + G so you get this rhythm but fix the spacing after. If you do that, it's also consistent with the rhythm of the second kiai 02:51:354 (2,3,4) - . Fixed.

Also what caught my eye about your Normal is the distinctive lack of patterning. It seems like the map is a continuous circle. Your notes appear like they don't interact with each other, so maybe look into that. I understand what you mean, but I guess what you could call my style, is why the map is the way it is. I usually build off of what the previous notes provide.

[Advanced]
00:13:021 (4) - Make this a circle and start your 1/1 slider here 00:13:188 - . Oh and put a hitcircle 00:13:688 - here after. You focus on the strong beats this way. Same for 00:18:354 (4,5) - this. Sure!
00:33:021 (5) - I suggest splitting this slider into two circles. The whole pattern has been sliders up until now, so emphasizing on the most intense beats of the section with some circles would be nice!
01:57:354 (5) - For the same reason as above, consider replacing this reverse slider with hitcircles. If you think it's going to raise the difficulty too much (I tested it, it goes to 2.6 from 2.48) then you can do 2 sets of 2 stacked hitcircles, which only makes it go from 2.48 to 2.51. I'm not very confident about doing this. I'm not really concerned about the SR going up, but more about how this might throw off the map. All of a sudden going for a normal 1/2 rhythm, to 1/4 hitcircles. I really think that the reverse sliders are okay for these bits.
03:05:188 - You should also emphasize on this beat by making clickable, try using the rhythm I mentioned above! Yup!

[Insane]
00:55:854 (5) - Why not split this slider into two? It will be more consistent with the rhythm you used on the second kiai 02:43:854 (5,6) - . I feel like it sounds too empty like that.
01:00:021 (1) - Same for this 02:48:021 (1,2) - . Good eye. As you can probably tell, I am prioritizing vocals throughout the whole map, which is why during the first kiai, I am emphasizing the vocals with 1/1 sliders. During the second kiai, the song is obviously a bit more intense, which is why I switched to mapping those stronger sounds.
02:25:188 (9,1) - Isn't this spacing a little too much? Decreased this.

You follow the rhythm nicely on the insane for the most part, the are some beats that you chose to ignore but that's fine since it's only an Insane.

Good luck! (◕‿◕✿)

Thank you very much!

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-12-08T15:51:01+00:00

M4M from the bunny queue

Normal

01:12:521 (5) - As i already said the diffs are quite polished already so i'll note stuff like this out aswell. As you are clearly trying to make a S shape out of this it honestly falls a little short. Unless the way it's made now is intentional you should enhance the overall S shape to be more impactful (so the curves ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) would be little bit more visible) like this. It's a small difference to what it is currently but it would make it look better. You may want to suit this suggestion for example 02:11:188 (4) - here aswell

01:26:354 - Get rid of this inherited point because there isn't anything affected by it

02:08:188 (3,4,1) - Correct me if i say something stupid. This should be fine like it's now but the way the 1 is placed kinda kills the up and down sort of pattterning you have over these 02:05:854 (5,1,2,3,4) - objects (from the 5 the slidertail kinda follows the patterning) so i would suggest to move the 1 so the sliderhead of it would be roughly at x391|y243. This would keep up the up and down stylish patterning but the body of the 1 kinda breaks that kind of style and starts the next pattern which is what you most likely are trying to do right now

02:33:854 (4) - I am so sorry if i sound harsh here but i want to keep it real. This may just be me but i do not think that S sliders like these should even exist at all. For me it's mostly because the way it's rotated pretty much just so the pattern would look interesting but in all honesty it does look interesting in the bad way atleast in todays standards because of the placement when compared to the objects before and after it. Heck i may just be overreacting here so if you could please justify the current shape but if you agree on some level atleast i would suggest something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6741570 as it would keep the pattern simple but effective but make sure that the slider actually makes sense and works with the other objects around it ( 02:33:521 (3,1) - ) thus meaning the S shape could for example make sense if the slider would be vertical instead of the current ~30 degree rotation from that

Other than that it's really well done

Advanced

According to the aimod there are alot of spacing issues. The spacing should be consistant in lower difficulties such as this one (i usually use them sometimes in insanes aswell) but if this is your way to map advanced difficulties then fine you do waht you do. But i would recommend you to use consistant spacing. Please correct me if i'm wrong with this

00:03:688 (8) - Are you 100% sure about using S shape for really short sliders like this one? I personally would not do something like this as the outcome of the shape you are trying to make falls short and somewhat unnoticeable because there isn't enough space to form the shape overall. I don't want to say this would necessarly be a bad thing but as i already pointed out it kinda looks meh imo. For example you could use something like this http://puu.sh/sIrC2/5e37cc108c.jpg (or something like here 00:48:188 (4) - ) because it would not look as tight as it is now. There are few other sliders that are little bit like this one so if you agree on this check through the difficulty for similiar ones

00:55:354 (3,4) - The 4 could be properly blanketed with the 3 or overhauled so it does not look like those two objects are supposed to be blanketed

01:05:104 - Make sure to check the diff for stuff like this. Inherited points without affecting anything. (Exceptionally for this part 01:16:021 - 01:26:354 - )

02:04:688 (2) - Couldn't this be for example just this 02:04:021 (1) - mirrored? Imo it would create a nice pattern

03:14:604 - In all the other difficulties (Except normal but that is the lowest diff) you end the song here with kicksliders/stream so couldn't you do like so here aswell? Having a 3/4 slider as the final object should not hurt the mapping overall as people do not have to think how far timeline wise the next object is. So simple suggestion : Extend the final slider by one tick

Jinxin Vaikea

00:14:354 - 00:15:521 - Tän tyyppisiä snarehittejä ei ehkä kannata mäpätä slidertailien alle. Kun ne snarehitit erottuu ja on melkein kaiken muun yläpuolella tossa biisissä, niin niitä voisi mäpätä sitten aktiivisilla objekteilla eli silleen että sun pitää klikata sitä (Sliderhead tai hitcircle). Juuri näin sä olet tehny useimmiten näitä muutamia tapauksia lukuunottamatta esim. täällä 00:18:354 (4,5) - ja täällä 00:21:688 (2,4) - . Jos meinaat tätä soveltaa nytten niin kannattaa vähän kattella muitakin kohtia kun näitä kahta jotka nimeomaan mainitsin sillä en jaksa mitään listaa lähteä kirjoittamaan.

00:45:354 (1) - Suoraan sanottuna en kyllä ihan ymmärrä että miksi tämä alkaa tästä. 00:45:354 - Tässä ei ainakaan mun mielestä ole mitään jota voisi aktiivisella objektilla ilmaista (Melodiassa hyvin heikko kellon(?) isku joka on ehkä parempi jättää mäppäämättä tai pistää se slidertailin alle ja laulu 404) että haluaisitko vähän avata että mitä sä olet yrittänyt tehdä tässä? Mun mielestä ainakin jotenki tämmönen rytmi http://puu.sh/sG6Ze/8594e15fe6.jpg toimisi paljon paremmin kuin nykyinen

01:20:688 (5,6) - Tässä ihan selvästi voisi olla joku kickslider patterni tai streami, mutta sä olet valinnut tällaisen tavan ilmaista sellaista melodiaa. Saanen kysyä että miksi? Mulle tuli vaan mieleen, että sä et vaan halua tehdä hankalia patterneja koska se puskisi sitä yleistä hankaluustasoa joka ei näy star ratingista (joka ei todennäköisesti ole se oikea syy mutta se nyt vaan tuli mulle mieleen). Anyway tällainen patterni http://puu.sh/sG9uK/135c2e8d29.jpg ei kylläkään haittaisi ollenkaan vaan pikemminkin olisi erinomainen vaihtoehto tuossa kohdassa. Oothan sä tehnyt samantyylisiä patterneja tossa lopussa 03:11:354 (3,4,1) -

01:48:021 (1) - Tässä kun sulla on toi voimakas symbaalihitti niin sitä voisi korostaa esim. hieman korkeamman välimatkan avulla (vetämällä se karkeasti johonkin x430|y149). Kun se on sulla noiden muiden hitcirclejen päällä, niin se ei korostu ollenkaan, joka nyt on taas aika tylsää

Insane

00:24:521 (6) - Not sure if someone has already mentioned about this but anyway... There are two initial problems with this slider imo that both are fixable by one small change. Firstly the spacing from the 5 to the 6 just does not work aswell as it could work because it's on the calmer section that does not need that much spacing and on top of that (secondly) this causes the flow to be quite bad overall. I would suggest you to CTRL G the 6. It would balance the DS over the few objects around it ( 00:24:021 (5,6,7) - ). For the flow thingy it does not straightly fix it but it makes these two 00:24:021 (5,6) - a pattern that would work similiarly as this kind of http://puu.sh/sGgFP/1c8d567792.jpg symmetric sliders

00:31:021 (3,4,5,6) - Okay this pattern does not make sense at all. First of all it does not look good at all which is mostly caused by the stack here 00:31:021 (3,5) - and secondly 6 does not get enough emphasis even though it is mapped on a really strong hit like... just compare the distances between these 00:31:354 (4,5) - two and then these 00:31:520 (5,6) - two. Personally i would just overhaul the whole pattern and maybe into something like this http://puu.sh/sGjCT/120c03d150.jpg as that would give a nice circular flow into the pattern, get rid of the weird stack and give enough emphasis for the 6

00:33:855 (2,3,4) - Maybe you could enhance this pattern so the 2 would be visually exactly in the middle of the two objects (hitcircle3|sliderhead4) as it kinda looks weird/unpolished rn. Though another thing i'd want to ask about the 4 so why is the strong snare hit mapped under a slider... tick? It just feels like it's left not mapped for no reason. Also this happens multiple times and if you are aware of this i'd want to hear the justification for this kind of mapping because they are really strong sounds which should atleast be mapped under slidertails (preferably active notes)

00:36:354 (3,4,5) - I honestly do not see a reason to space them like so. Could you save my fragile mind and maybe distance them equally or justify the current way to just randomly space these notes

01:44:021 (2) - So why this like... it is? Well mostly the curve because for me it just seems to be out of place as it's just that much different than the other slider ( 01:43:521 (5) - ). I do not want to suggest anything here because it's most likely intentional but i don't understand it either so that is why i'm asking why is it like it is

01:47:188 (2) - The S shape could be enhanced by a bit because the first curve is much "less curvy" than the second one... you should get the point xd

02:09:021 (1) - Is there really a reason to have this there? I mean personally i would just remove it because note here 02:09:354 - is just that much stronger than the other one and imo would fit much better as the starting point of the section after the break but if you disagree i'd like to know why

02:13:354 - You follow the piano(?) here right?

02:42:688 - Start the kiai from here like in any other difficulty

oko's Extra

00:33:854 - So any specific reasons why have you left this not mapped even though 00:34:521 (5) - this is pretty much similiar sound? I may just be dumb and not notice something which is usually the case but it still kinda stands out not to have something there

02:09:021 (1) - Is there really a reason to have this there? I mean personally i would just remove it because note here 02:09:354 - is just that much stronger than the other one and imo would fit much better as the starting point of the section after the break but if you disagree i'd like to know why (Same thing in your other diff)

02:13:020 (4,5,6) - Alright about this pattern... it's honestly quite confusing because you use ascending DS for the 3|4|5 but then you just stop doing it after the 5. This leaves a scenario where most of the players see the 5|6 as a 1/2 jump visually and melodically. Even though you follow the piano the vocals are so strong that it almost forces people to think that this 02:13:520 (6) - is actually 02:13:354 - here. What do you think about this?

Alrighty that's about it. Didn't find anything from Oko's death sentence sadly .-. (Tfw it's not sad at all because it means it's gud lol) but anyway overall nice mapping and best of luck to you all. Love the song tho

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-12-08T18:11:17+00:00

yeah, i left a few spots systematically unmapped because 1. there's no drums on these, 2. that makes for a more interesting to interpret rhythm and 3rd: if you listen to the piano 00:34:021 (3,4) - 00:36:688 (3,4) - 00:39:354 (3,4) - always have two distinct notes while there's nothing inbetween so the current rhythm not only accentuates the piano and the drums, it's also more interesting to play than a constant 1/2 gap timeline
i think the note in 02:09:021 (1) - is pretty necessary since the vocalist picks up again and i mapped 02:14:354 - as well. the vocal verses seem connected and deleting one of these takes away from the map for me lol
02:13:020 (4,5,6) - fixed this, i didn't like it anyways

thanks for these opinions

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J1NX1337

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J1NX1337 2016-12-08T22:22:33+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
00:14:354 - 00:15:521 - Tän tyyppisiä snarehittejä ei ehkä kannata mäpätä slidertailien alle. Kun ne snarehitit erottuu ja on melkein kaiken muun yläpuolella tossa biisissä, niin niitä voisi mäpätä sitten aktiivisilla objekteilla eli silleen että sun pitää klikata sitä (Sliderhead tai hitcircle). Juuri näin sä olet tehny useimmiten näitä muutamia tapauksia lukuunottamatta esim. täällä 00:18:354 (4,5) - ja täällä 00:21:688 (2,4) - . Jos meinaat tätä soveltaa nytten niin kannattaa vähän kattella muitakin kohtia kun näitä kahta jotka nimeomaan mainitsin sillä en jaksa mitään listaa lähteä kirjoittamaan. - Sekin toimii tietenkin mutta priorisoin tässä kappaleen syntikoita ja pidän nämä mielellään reverse slidereina jotta tämä sektio erottuu jotenkin tuosta myöhemmästä kohdasta jossa kappaleen syntikoiden tyylikin vaihtuu 02:20:021 -

00:45:354 (1) - Suoraan sanottuna en kyllä ihan ymmärrä että miksi tämä alkaa tästä. 00:45:354 - Tässä ei ainakaan mun mielestä ole mitään jota voisi aktiivisella objektilla ilmaista (Melodiassa hyvin heikko kellon(?) isku joka on ehkä parempi jättää mäppäämättä tai pistää se slidertailin alle ja laulu 404) että haluaisitko vähän avata että mitä sä olet yrittänyt tehdä tässä? Mun mielestä ainakin jotenki tämmönen rytmi http://puu.sh/sG6Ze/8594e15fe6.jpg toimisi paljon paremmin kuin nykyinen - Hyvä huomio. Reverse sliderin oli tarkoitus korostaa vokaaleja mutta en keskittynyt hirveästi tuohon sliderheadiin sitä alunperin tehdessäni. Korvasin rytmin yhden beatin pituisella sliderilla sekä circleillä. http://puu.sh/sIInd/a2a36221af.jpg

01:20:688 (5,6) - Tässä ihan selvästi voisi olla joku kickslider patterni tai streami, mutta sä olet valinnut tällaisen tavan ilmaista sellaista melodiaa. Saanen kysyä että miksi? Mulle tuli vaan mieleen, että sä et vaan halua tehdä hankalia patterneja koska se puskisi sitä yleistä hankaluustasoa joka ei näy star ratingista (joka ei todennäköisesti ole se oikea syy mutta se nyt vaan tuli mulle mieleen). Anyway tällainen patterni http://puu.sh/sG9uK/135c2e8d29.jpg ei kylläkään haittaisi ollenkaan vaan pikemminkin olisi erinomainen vaihtoehto tuossa kohdassa. Oothan sä tehnyt samantyylisiä patterneja tossa lopussa 03:11:354 (3,4,1) - Jätin nuo 1/4 beatit mappaamatta juuri sen takia että se rytmi olisi liian tiheä Hardille. Esimerkkisi ei toimi kovin hyvin sillä 01:21:271 - quarter beatilla ei ole soundia jolle mapata sliderendiä enkä halua linkittää kahta reverse slideria joista toisessa on vain yksi reverse. Pidän nykyisestä rytmistäni sillä sliderit toimivat taustasyntikoiden kanssa ihan hyvin, joten en tee tässä kohdin mappia muutosta.

01:48:021 (1) - Tässä kun sulla on toi voimakas symbaalihitti niin sitä voisi korostaa esim. hieman korkeamman välimatkan avulla (vetämällä se karkeasti johonkin x430|y149). Kun se on sulla noiden muiden hitcirclejen päällä, niin se ei korostu ollenkaan, joka nyt on taas aika tylsää - Näen kyllä pointtisi mutta haluaisin pyrkiä olemaan mahdollisimman ristiriidaton mapin spacingin kanssa, joten en varmaan lisää hyppyä tähän kohden mappia kun muutenkaan en ole niitä käyttänyt paitsi tietyissä kohdissa. Stackatut circlet korostavat ihan hyvin pientä paussia tausta instrumenteissa.

Kiitos palautteesta! / Thanks for modding!

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Creator:_vanity
Version:Jinx's Hard
Source:うみねこのなく頃に散
Tags:Teardrop Theater Kazuchi Dlanor A. Knox Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru 07th Expansion When They Cry Esper Gakuen ドラノール・A・ノックス J1NX1337 Okoratu Okorin
BeatmapID:947622
BeatmapSetID:337699

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"background.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Combo4 : 236,114,239
Combo5 : 255,114,60
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DTM9 Nowa wrote:
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01:12:521 (5) - As i already said the diffs are quite polished already so i'll note stuff like this out aswell. As you are clearly trying to make a S shape out of this it honestly falls a little short. Unless the way it's made now is intentional you should enhance the overall S shape to be more impactful (so the curves ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) would be little bit more visible) like this. It's a small difference to what it is currently but it would make it look better. You may want to suit this suggestion for example 02:11:188 (4) - here aswell Adjusted.

01:26:354 - Get rid of this inherited point because there isn't anything affected by it Fixed.

02:08:188 (3,4,1) - Correct me if i say something stupid. This should be fine like it's now but the way the 1 is placed kinda kills the up and down sort of pattterning you have over these 02:05:854 (5,1,2,3,4) - objects (from the 5 the slidertail kinda follows the patterning) so i would suggest to move the 1 so the sliderhead of it would be roughly at x391|y243. This would keep up the up and down stylish patterning but the body of the 1 kinda breaks that kind of style and starts the next pattern which is what you most likely are trying to do right now That is exactly what I was trying to do. I tried to keep some diversity, while still maintaing good flow. I don't see the problem here.

02:33:854 (4) - I am so sorry if i sound harsh here but i want to keep it real. This may just be me but i do not think that S sliders like these should even exist at all. For me it's mostly because the way it's rotated pretty much just so the pattern would look interesting but in all honesty it does look interesting in the bad way atleast in todays standards because of the placement when compared to the objects before and after it. Heck i may just be overreacting here so if you could please justify the current shape but if you agree on some level atleast i would suggest something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6741570 as it would keep the pattern simple but effective but make sure that the slider actually makes sense and works with the other objects around it ( 02:33:521 (3,1) - ) thus meaning the S shape could for example make sense if the slider would be vertical instead of the current ~30 degree rotation from that You apologize way too much. I like your idea much better anyway!

Other than that it's really well done

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According to the aimod there are alot of spacing issues. The spacing should be consistant in lower difficulties such as this one (i usually use them sometimes in insanes aswell) but if this is your way to map advanced difficulties then fine you do waht you do. But i would recommend you to use consistant spacing. Please correct me if i'm wrong with this Don't stress! I'm aware of this issue. A lot of them have to do with the change in slider velocity. I will revise over this.

00:03:688 (8) - Are you 100% sure about using S shape for really short sliders like this one? I personally would not do something like this as the outcome of the shape you are trying to make falls short and somewhat unnoticeable because there isn't enough space to form the shape overall. I don't want to say this would necessarly be a bad thing but as i already pointed out it kinda looks meh imo. For example you could use something like this http://puu.sh/sIrC2/5e37cc108c.jpg (or something like here 00:48:188 (4) - ) because it would not look as tight as it is now. There are few other sliders that are little bit like this one so if you agree on this check through the difficulty for similiar ones Looking back at this section, I'm not really sure why I mapped some oddly shaped sliders. I will be removing this slider, a long with some others.

00:55:354 (3,4) - The 4 could be properly blanketed with the 3 or overhauled so it does not look like those two objects are supposed to be blanketed Fixed.

01:05:104 - Make sure to check the diff for stuff like this. Inherited points without affecting anything. (Exceptionally for this part 01:16:021 - 01:26:354 - ) Will do.

02:04:688 (2) - Couldn't this be for example just this 02:04:021 (1) - mirrored? Imo it would create a nice pattern Nice suggestion, but I will be keeping this.

03:14:604 - In all the other difficulties (Except normal but that is the lowest diff) you end the song here with kicksliders/stream so couldn't you do like so here aswell? Having a 3/4 slider as the final object should not hurt the mapping overall as people do not have to think how far timeline wise the next object is. So simple suggestion : Extend the final slider by one tick I think the way this already is, fits better with the sounds I am following.

Insane
00:24:521 (6) - Not sure if someone has already mentioned about this but anyway... There are two initial problems with this slider imo that both are fixable by one small change. Firstly the spacing from the 5 to the 6 just does not work aswell as it could work because it's on the calmer section that does not need that much spacing and on top of that (secondly) this causes the flow to be quite bad overall. I would suggest you to CTRL G the 6. It would balance the DS over the few objects around it ( 00:24:021 (5,6,7) - ). For the flow thingy it does not straightly fix it but it makes these two 00:24:021 (5,6) - a pattern that would work similiarly as this kind of http://puu.sh/sGgFP/1c8d567792.jpg symmetric sliders Used the first part of your suggestion.

00:31:021 (3,4,5,6) - Okay this pattern does not make sense at all. First of all it does not look good at all which is mostly caused by the stack here 00:31:021 (3,5) - and secondly 6 does not get enough emphasis even though it is mapped on a really strong hit like... just compare the distances between these 00:31:354 (4,5) - two and then these 00:31:520 (5,6) - two. Personally i would just overhaul the whole pattern and maybe into something like this http://puu.sh/sGjCT/120c03d150.jpg as that would give a nice circular flow into the pattern, get rid of the weird stack and give enough emphasis for the 6 Fixed.

00:33:855 (2,3,4) - Maybe you could enhance this pattern so the 2 would be visually exactly in the middle of the two objects (hitcircle3|sliderhead4) as it kinda looks weird/unpolished rn. Though another thing i'd want to ask about the 4 so why is the strong snare hit mapped under a slider... tick? It just feels like it's left not mapped for no reason. Also this happens multiple times and if you are aware of this i'd want to hear the justification for this kind of mapping because they are really strong sounds which should atleast be mapped under slidertails (preferably active notes) This is because this difficulty obviously follows vocals.

00:36:354 (3,4,5) - I honestly do not see a reason to space them like so. Could you save my fragile mind and maybe distance them equally or justify the current way to just randomly space these notes I don't really understand what is bad about the spacing, considering it's less than the previous notes. Either way, I evened this pattern out a bit.

01:44:021 (2) - So why this like... it is? Well mostly the curve because for me it just seems to be out of place as it's just that much different than the other slider ( 01:43:521 (5) - ). I do not want to suggest anything here because it's most likely intentional but i don't understand it either so that is why i'm asking why is it like it is I will reduce the intensity of the shape.

01:47:188 (2) - The S shape could be enhanced by a bit because the first curve is much "less curvy" than the second one... you should get the point xd Yeah.

02:09:021 (1) - Is there really a reason to have this there? I mean personally i would just remove it because note here 02:09:354 - is just that much stronger than the other one and imo would fit much better as the starting point of the section after the break but if you disagree i'd like to know why The reason being, this is the start of a new lyric line, (tenmetsushiteiku shikai wa subete tainashinishite). I am mapping vocals after all.

02:13:354 - You follow the piano(?) here right? More important vooocals.

02:42:688 - Start the kiai from here like in any other difficulty I honestly don't know how that extra kiai point got in there, but I fixed it.

Thanks for the mod/star! Sorry for taking so long to respond, but I've been dealing with a lot of things recently.

6th

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6th 2017-01-21T21:34:15+00:00

Hey !

[Death Sentence]
02:53:021 (7,8,1) - Consider rotating 02:53:021 (7) - or moving 02:53:271 (8,1) - a bit the left. It's a bit annoying to play rn.
00:57:521 (2,3) - That angle looks quite annoying to play. CTRL+H to 00:57:688 (3) - ?

[Extra]
00:29:354 (5,6) - That stack looks a bit random and ruins the emphasis of (5).
02:50:188 (4,5,6,1) - That flow is really sharp. Can you move 02:50:521 (6) - a bit up ?

[Insane]
01:05:021 (5,1) - Consider making them closer since the flow is kinda awkward here.
02:26:688 (5,6) - This could be more intuitive if (5) were moved to the right.
02:50:188 (8,9,10) - The anti-flow you're using would be way less annoying if (9) was closer from (8). example : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7118742
03:06:021 (3,5) - stack them like you did for 03:04:688 (3,5) - 03:07:354 (3,5) -

[Hard]
01:05:354 (1,2,3) - This could be really hard to play for 3-3.5* players and does not seem to represent anything in the song. Can you rotate (2) to make it more intuitive ?
02:45:354 (1) - 00:57:354 (1) - 01:08:021 (1) - 02:56:021 (1) - 2 circles ?

That's all I could find. Easier diffs look already pretty clean. Good luck.

_vanity

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_vanity 2017-01-22T00:15:41+00:00

6th wrote:
[Insane]
01:05:021 (5,1) - Consider making them closer since the flow is kinda awkward here.
02:26:688 (5,6) - This could be more intuitive if (5) were moved to the right.
02:50:188 (8,9,10) - The anti-flow you're using would be way less annoying if (9) was closer from (8). example : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7118742
03:06:021 (3,5) - stack them like you did for 03:04:688 (3,5) - 03:07:354 (3,5) -

All changes applied. Thanks!

J1NX1337

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J1NX1337 2017-01-26T21:56:24+00:00

6th wrote:
[Hard]
01:05:354 (1,2,3) - This could be really hard to play for 3-3.5* players and does not seem to represent anything in the song. Can you rotate (2) to make it more intuitive ? - Not entirely sure what you mean by "does not seem to represent anything in the song" as it's emphasizing the vocals. lol
I don't know what's wrong with this or how you'd like me to rotate (2) since you didn't tell me, so I think I'll let this be since I think it plays just fine.
02:45:354 (1) - 00:57:354 (1) - 01:08:021 (1) - 02:56:021 (1) - 2 circles ? - Possible, but I'd rather keep it as it is because I don't feel like remaking the structure of all these parts. :/ I think it's also fine the way it's right now and it's more consistent rhythmically as well. I'll consider it if other people recommend the same, though.

Thanks for modding in any case!

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2017-02-12T22:47:50+00:00

did first thing in death sentence
2nd thing in death sentence is about everywhere so doing something about one out of like 40 instances kinda seems lol to me it doesn't even stick out much

the stack in extra kinda works though because that section should ideally only have movement btween sliders and the objects that follow them unless there's a special reason so unstacking it will make it the "only thing in the section that isn't stacking"
made the flow on the 2nd one sharper because it wasn't sharp enough

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https://puu.sh/u0p6P/ed140a70cf.txt

_vanity

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_vanity 2017-02-13T05:08:56+00:00

Everything updated! BN check hype? ;o;

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J1NX1337 2017-02-13T19:39:10+00:00

That's right folks!

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Shiguma 2017-08-29T00:52:05+00:00

That's right

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_vanity 2017-08-29T02:38:46+00:00

Shiguma wrote:
That's right

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Shiguma 2017-08-29T19:32:26+00:00

bns when

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Okoratu 2017-08-29T19:34:20+00:00

become bn then

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