19:23 Aex3: so
19:24 Aex3: are you ready?
19:24 Dragoneeee: yea
19:24 Aex3: k
19:24 Aex3: first of all i want you to pick a good image
19:25 Aex3: something that relates to this song
19:25 Dragoneeee: Any suggestions?
19:25 Dragoneeee: I was going to use the band image but they don't have one ;-;
19:25 Aex3: then pick something theme related
19:26 Dragoneeee: ok
19:26 Dragoneeee: Is that it?
19:26 Aex3: lol no
19:27 Aex3: that's just to get you started
19:27 Dragoneeee: xD
19:27 Dragoneeee: I found an image tho
19:27 Aex3: drag it into the editor
19:27 Aex3: make sure it's a high resolution
19:27 Aex3: like a wallpapers
19:27 Dragoneeee: So not off of google?
19:27 Aex3: google is ok
19:27 Aex3: it should be big
19:28 Dragoneeee: What format does it have to be
19:28 Dragoneeee: Apparently osu doesnt take .jpeg
19:28 Aex3: jpg or png i think
19:31 Dragoneeee: got one
19:32 Aex3: k
19:32 Aex3: next step
19:33 Aex3: locate the first beat
19:33 Aex3: of your song
19:34 Dragoneeee: Like drum beat, or first sound?
19:34 Aex3: first time the drum kicks in
19:34 Dragoneeee: First drum is right there
19:34 Aex3: wrong, 00:01:945 -
19:34 Aex3: needs to be precise
19:35 Dragoneeee: Ok
19:35 Aex3: well what does the part sound like?
19:35 Aex3: it sounds like an Ahhhhhh and has a cymbal crash in it
19:35 Aex3: therefore the object should be something that's longer than just a circle
19:36 Dragoneeee: So at 00:01:945- i should put a slider?
19:36 Aex3: type with a space between the -
19:36 Aex3: yes
19:36 Aex3: the slider should end at 00:02:406 -
19:36 Aex3: now listen to this part at 50% speed
19:36 Aex3: and tell me if it feels okay
19:38 Dragoneeee: Ok i got the slider.
19:38 Aex3: good
19:38 Dragoneeee: But i dont hear the ahhhhhh
19:38 Dragoneeee: I just hear the drum ;-;
19:38 Aex3: in the background
19:39 Dragoneeee: I was thinking different ahh :L
19:39 Dragoneeee: Cause at the end where i have a map theres an oooh
19:39 Dragoneeee: now what?
19:39 Aex3: now:
19:39 Aex3: you leave 50% speed on
19:40 Aex3: and go to timing
19:40 Aex3: change the offset to "1945"
19:40 Dragoneeee: holy crap
19:40 Dragoneeee: That was way off ;-;
19:41 Aex3: well anyway
19:41 Aex3: once that's done
19:41 Aex3: we have to look at more settings
19:41 Aex3: what difficulty do you want to make?
19:41 Aex3: normal?
19:41 Aex3: hard?
19:41 Aex3: i'd say normal
19:41 Dragoneeee: I was going for hard
19:41 Dragoneeee: K
19:41 Aex3: hmm
19:41 Aex3: yeah ok
19:41 Aex3: let's go hard
19:42 Dragoneeee: Well whatever this map is on the way to being would be good xD
19:42 Aex3: click on song setup
19:42 Aex3: at the top
19:42 Aex3: select difficulty
19:42 Aex3: hp 3
19:42 Aex3: circle size 4
19:42 Dragoneeee: What?
19:43 Aex3: we're adjusting the settings for a hard difficulty
19:43 Aex3: if you need help with finding stuff, be specific so that i can help
19:44 Dragoneeee: No i got it xD
19:44 Dragoneeee: Took me a second to figure out HP ;-;
19:44 Aex3: kk
19:44 Aex3: apply these:
19:44 Aex3: hp 3   cs 4    ar 5    od 4
19:44 Aex3: cs = circle size 
19:44 Aex3: and so on
19:44 Dragoneeee: K
19:44 Aex3: just shortening it
19:44 Dragoneeee: I got it :P
19:44 Aex3: kk good
19:45 Aex3: apply
19:45 Aex3: click save
19:45 Aex3: now look how different it seems
19:45 Dragoneeee: Woah
19:46 Aex3: next step
19:46 Aex3: we need to change the slider velocity
19:46 Aex3: set to 1.40x
19:47 Dragoneeee: k
19:47 Aex3: see the top bar
19:48 Aex3: file edit view compose etc
19:48 Dragoneeee: Yea
19:48 Aex3: click timing -> recalculate slider length
19:48 Aex3: this is in red because it will have a huge impact on your map
19:48 Aex3: every slider will be recalculated
19:48 Aex3: and you have to make them a bit longer now
19:48 Dragoneeee: made my 2 beggining sliders overlap
19:49 Aex3: screenshot
19:49 Aex3: shift + f12
19:49 Aex3: send to me
19:49 Aex3: i need vision of what exactly happened
19:49 Dragoneeee: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426268
19:50 Aex3: okay
19:50 Aex3: first of all
19:50 Aex3: go to the options
19:50 Aex3: and select " use standart skin for editor" or whatever
19:50 Aex3: this one is shit to edit
19:50 Dragoneeee: hold on xD
19:50 Aex3: the osu options
19:51 Aex3: not the editor options
19:51 Dragoneeee: Ik im trying to find it xD
19:51 Aex3: type in
19:51 Aex3: "skin"
19:51 Dragoneeee: got it
19:51 Aex3: back to the editor
19:52 Dragoneeee: Well I have the normal skin for editing now
19:52 Dragoneeee: I got it xD
19:52 Aex3: ok
19:52 Aex3: now
19:52 Aex3: send new screenshot
19:53 Dragoneeee: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426282
19:53 Dragoneeee: Also the first slider doesnt match the intro sound anymore :C
19:53 Dragoneeee: It's too long
19:54 Aex3: better
19:54 Aex3: yes
19:54 Aex3: delete the first slider
19:54 Dragoneeee: Make a new one?
19:54 Aex3: no
19:54 Aex3: leave it out
19:54 Aex3: we start at the cymbal sound
19:54 Aex3: and the AHHHH
19:54 Dragoneeee: Ok
19:55 Dragoneeee: Well that one is good
19:55 Aex3: yes
19:55 Aex3: so
19:55 Aex3: we play the song at 50% now
19:55 Aex3: and listen closely to the next few seconds
19:55 Aex3: and decide on what to put next
19:57 Aex3: these objects seem about right
19:57 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8On7/fd0927ad84.jpg
19:57 Dragoneeee: I think i should shorten the break time to put circles for the vocals, since mine start after that
19:58 Aex3: we are too far
19:58 Aex3: look at the picture lol
19:59 Dragoneeee: Ok..
19:59 Dragoneeee: Where is that/should be
19:59 Aex3: starting from your first slider
19:59 Aex3: the one at AHHH
20:00 Dragoneeee: So i should put another slider?
20:00 Aex3: delete all objects
20:00 Aex3: just not
20:00 Aex3: the one we made earlier
20:00 Aex3: the ahh slider stays
20:00 Aex3: rest goes
20:00 Aex3: all of it
20:00 Dragoneeee: how do i do that ;-;
20:00 Aex3: select
20:00 Aex3: and del
20:00 Dragoneeee: Do i have to go through and delete everything?
20:01 Aex3: well
20:01 Dragoneeee: ugh
20:01 Aex3: just do this:
20:01 Aex3: ctrl + a
20:01 Aex3: and then press del
20:01 Aex3: then make everything new
20:01 Aex3: just as the picture shows
20:01 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8On7/fd0927ad84.jpg
20:01 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:03 Aex3: done?
20:03 Dragoneeee: Just got the slider ;-;
20:04 Dragoneeee: It's hard cause there set up differently
20:04 Dragoneeee: I think the beat snap is different
20:04 Dragoneeee: Is yours 1/2
20:05 Aex3: yes
20:05 Dragoneeee: ?
20:05 Aex3: that's hard
20:05 Dragoneeee: Well you didnt tell me
20:05 Aex3: lol
20:05 Dragoneeee: Because mine is 1/4
20:05 Dragoneeee: xD
20:05 Aex3: you can tell
20:05 Aex3: by looking at my image
20:05 Aex3: look below the circles
20:05 Aex3: NOT MY FAULT LOL
20:05 Dragoneeee: xD
20:05 Dragoneeee: Well you didn't tell me before :P
20:05 Aex3: do i have to
20:05 Aex3: >.<
20:05 Aex3: brain.exe 
20:05 Aex3: we all have that :D
20:06 Dragoneeee: Nah
20:06 Aex3: btw
20:06 Aex3: if we're making a had
20:07 Aex3: a lot of "try and error" is usually needed
20:07 Aex3: til you find the right settings
20:08 Dragoneeee: Dun
20:08 Aex3: apply this 
20:08 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8P4Q/d73a054682.jpg
20:08 Aex3: instead of what i send before
20:08 Dragoneeee: ;-;
20:08 Aex3: it's the same, but this time we just make 2 small sliders instead of 1 big
20:08 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:09 Dragoneeee: Wait
20:09 Dragoneeee: Thats right after the first slider?
20:09 Dragoneeee: Or that includes the first slider
20:09 Aex3: first slider
20:09 Aex3: make it end at red tick
20:09 Aex3: shorten
20:09 Aex3: then make a new one just after that
20:10 Aex3: just place it randomly on the screen
20:10 Aex3: patterns later
20:10 Dragoneeee: Got it
20:11 Aex3: k
20:11 Aex3: see distance snap?
20:11 Aex3: bottom right
20:11 Dragoneeee: Yea
20:11 Aex3: turn it on
20:11 Dragoneeee: It already was on xD
20:11 Aex3: k
20:11 Aex3: now do this
20:11 Aex3: alt + mousewheel
20:11 Aex3: look at top right
20:11 Aex3: set it to 1.2x
20:12 Dragoneeee: Got it
20:12 Aex3: move objects
20:12 Aex3: look what happens now
20:12 Dragoneeee: K
20:13 Aex3: it should look
20:13 Aex3: like this now
20:13 Aex3: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426362
20:13 Aex3: but how you located it doesn't matter
20:13 Aex3: just the distance and the slider length are important
20:13 Aex3: that's the core of each beatmap
20:14 Aex3: send me yours
20:14 Dragoneeee: Ugh its not opening the screenshot in browser anymore :C
20:14 Aex3: shift
20:14 Aex3: f12
20:14 Dragoneeee: oh
20:15 Dragoneeee: derp
20:15 Dragoneeee: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426370
20:15 Dragoneeee: It's a circle pattern trust me
20:15 Dragoneeee: Shit
20:15 Aex3: that's not distance snapped
20:15 Aex3: it has to be spread out
20:15 Dragoneeee: are you sure?
20:15 Dragoneeee: let me try again
20:16 Aex3: drag them on the playfield
20:16 Aex3: and they will snap away
20:16 Dragoneeee: got it
20:16 Aex3: screenshot
20:16 Dragoneeee: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426377
20:18 Dragoneeee: Derpp
20:18 Dragoneeee: i just sent you a stupid
20:18 Dragoneeee: Try this one ;)
20:18 Dragoneeee: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426383
20:19 Aex3: btw
20:19 Aex3: background
20:19 Aex3: is blurry as fk
20:19 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8PMB/091594874f.png
20:19 Aex3: replace 
20:19 Aex3: wait, let me cut it properly first
20:20 Aex3: the dimensions are wrong
20:20 Dragoneeee: xD
20:20 Aex3: hold on
20:23 Aex3: almost done
20:24 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8Q4C/cb54cdc00b.png
20:24 Aex3: but it is blurry too
20:24 Aex3: how about this image?
20:24 Aex3: http://img13.deviantart.net/c49d/i/2010/074/4/7/wallpaper___love_is_war_by_fastspeedy.jpg
20:25 Dragoneeee: Chrome crashed hold on
20:25 Dragoneeee: ;-;
20:25 Dragoneeee: Something is wrong with chrome
20:26 Dragoneeee: sure
20:27 Aex3: http://puu.sh/j8Qgx/e745f9c1b6.jpg
20:27 Aex3: take this
20:27 Dragoneeee: Very nice
20:27 Aex3: blurry too
20:27 Aex3: but not that bad
20:27 Aex3: you can look for a better one later
20:27 Dragoneeee: What if i like this one?
20:28 Aex3: well keep then
20:28 Dragoneeee: xD
20:28 Aex3: well basically
20:28 Aex3: now it's just making the map
20:28 Aex3: by placing objects
20:29 Aex3: i would recommend you to listen to it slowed down
20:29 Aex3: and decide what should be a slider
20:29 Aex3: and what a circle
20:29 Aex3: sounds that go on for a while should be a slider
20:29 Dragoneeee: Do you reccomend vocals or drum?
20:29 Aex3: you map to both
20:29 Dragoneeee: Can I send it to you when im done with it to test
20:29 Dragoneeee: ?
20:31 Aex3: yeah sure
20:33 Aex3: try this
20:33 Aex3: 00:09:329 -
20:34 Aex3: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426446
20:35 Aex3: start of the first object is the time i just mentioned
20:35 Aex3: if you did that
20:35 Aex3: you should get an idea
20:35 Aex3: on how to continue
20:35 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:35 Dragoneeee: It's not too different then what i had
20:35 Dragoneeee: Just another slider
20:35 Aex3: good
20:35 Aex3: map to that part
20:35 Aex3: then upload
20:35 Aex3: and let msee
20:35 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:36 Dragoneeee: Gimme one second
20:36 Aex3: sure
20:36 Aex3: going back to my map while you do yours
20:36 Dragoneeee: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/349982
20:40 Aex3: do /np command
20:40 *Dragoneeee is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/746162 Sweet Talker - This is war [Hard]]
20:41 Aex3: ok
20:41 Aex3: not bad
20:41 Aex3: but try this:
20:41 Aex3: 00:03:791 (2) -  see the big white line under the circle?
20:42 Dragoneeee: yea
20:42 Aex3: when the combo is high enough (above 6) you should consider adding a new combo on these parts
20:42 Aex3: new combo = Q on keyboard
20:42 Dragoneeee: I changed the combos 1-5
20:42 Dragoneeee: they never go above 6 =/
20:42 Aex3: no
20:42 Aex3: combos
20:42 Aex3: have to go by the music
20:42 Aex3: not because one wants to
20:43 Aex3: 00:03:791 (2) -  listen closely
20:43 Aex3: there is a DUN sound
20:43 Aex3: therefore ending the current combo streak
20:43 Aex3: and starting a new one
20:43 Aex3: not every DUN sound ends a combo
20:44 Aex3: but you need to look for opportunities to create a combo if it's too large
20:44 Dragoneeee: So the combo should be 1-2 1-2 1-2
20:44 Dragoneeee: Oh
20:44 Aex3: no
20:44 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:44 Aex3: combos should look like this
20:44 Aex3: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426493
20:44 Aex3: most of the time at the big stroke
20:45 Aex3: but not always
20:46 Aex3: 00:03:791 (1) -  slider
20:46 Aex3: 00:04:252 (2) -  slider
20:46 Aex3: is what i would do
20:46 Aex3: try to not have too many circles
20:46 Aex3: use sliders whenever possible
20:46 Dragoneeee: Ok
20:46 Dragoneeee: But
20:46 Aex3: it helps to relax
20:47 Dragoneeee: how do you do the time thing?
20:47 Aex3: copy in editor
20:47 Aex3: paste in chat
20:47 Dragoneeee: 00:16:252 (7) -
20:47 Dragoneeee: What should i do here?
20:48 Dragoneeee: I have sliders all through that no vocal part just following
20:48 Dragoneeee: But I don't know how i should convert ;-;
20:49 Aex3: something like this
20:49 Aex3: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426516
20:49 Aex3: 00:16:483 - start of the first object
20:50 Aex3: try and error
20:50 Aex3: look what fits
20:50 Aex3: with practice you need less trying
20:50 Aex3: and you will get less mistakes aswell
20:51 Aex3: the fun about mapping is
20:51 Aex3: that each person would do it differently
20:52 Aex3: there is no right answer on how to map a certain part
20:52 Dragoneeee: This takes a long time :P
20:52 Aex3: yes
20:52 Dragoneeee: Since i want to get this ranked, will you do the other difficulty if your're not working on somethin else?
20:52 Aex3: your first 5-10 maps wont get ranked
20:52 Aex3: that's normal
20:52 Dragoneeee: Aw
20:53 Aex3: keep trying
20:53 Aex3: practice practice practice
20:53 Aex3: try to find a different motivation for mapping
20:53 Aex3: instead of going for rank
20:54 Aex3: that's the wrong way of thinking IMO
20:54 Aex3: try to map songs which you like a lot or which have a special meaning for you
20:54 Aex3: try to do as good as you can on them
20:54 Aex3: and eventually someone will mod it and you can try to rank it
20:55 Dragoneeee: What do you mean mod it?
20:55 Dragoneeee: I don't get that ;-;
20:55 Aex3: mod = modifying
20:55 Aex3: pointing out mistakes
20:55 Aex3: Brb going to eat