CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Pride Kakumei · forum

Ipas

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Ipas 2015-07-26T22:34:52+00:00

A little suggestion for sheela

[sheela's Hard]

00:29:125 (4,1) - Might some people mistakenly seen this like a triplet . How about map this 00:29:206 - by a circle? Or you don't want to make a triplet, just unstack them like you did on 00:30:422 (4,1) -
00:44:692 (6,1) - Goes same here . But I think you can make it into a triplet . The tone isn't lowered like the section I mentioned above
00:51:179 (5,1) - Same as above
01:21:665 (2) - This slider plays awkward because it place a beat that should be emphasized with triplet . I don't know why I just feel awkward here while the others played fine for me . Maybe because this is the most intense part at the song, and it's need a lot of emphasis imo

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Others are fine, thanks!

sheela

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Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-07-26T23:24:41+00:00

Ipas wrote:
A little suggestion for sheela

[sheela's Hard]
00:29:125 (4,1) - Might some people mistakenly seen this like a triplet . How about map this 00:29:206 - by a circle? Or you don't want to make a triplet, just unstack them like you did on 00:30:422 (4,1) -
00:44:692 (6,1) - Goes same here . But I think you can make it into a triplet . The tone isn't lowered like the section I mentioned above
00:51:179 (5,1) - Same as above
01:21:665 (2) - This slider plays awkward because it place a beat that should be emphasized with triplet . I don't know why I just feel awkward here while the others played fine for me . Maybe because this is the most intense part at the song, and it's need a lot of emphasis imo
[]
Others are fine, thanks!

Thanks for the mod, Ipas! Everything should be applied. You'll get my mod too, maybe tomorrow.

me difficulty

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sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-07-27T15:16:25+00:00

Hey Ipas! Since you modded my difficulty I should mod yours!

Easy

The new combo pattern you use felt "spammy" to me, as in combos of 2 or 3 objects, and it's kind of short. But since this is an Easy, your difficulty uses a great amount of long and short sliders, and it limits the number objects in a rhythm. This may need more opinions since I think I'm the only one saying this.
Here's a list below that I think that object may not need a new combo, because there are some that fit with the music.

00:37:071 (1) -
00:51:341 (1) -
00:56:530 (1) -
01:01:719 (1) -
01:15:990 (1) - This is definite if you follow the same pattern.

This may not be an issue, so you don't have to apply them.

00:06:909 - 00:08:206 - I think these ticks should be filled with circles. At one point the sliders 00:05:936 (1,2) follow another beat in the music and it kind of brings inconsistency in the rhythm.
00:31:882 (2,3) - This gap sounds really weird. I know you're following the cymbal beats, but the current rhythm makes the play and the sound weird. I suggest you add a circle and a long slider (the image is below, in the box) to get a better listening and to follow the vocals with.
SPOILER

Normal

1. 00:05:936 (1,2,3,4) - Similar in Easy, but this is obvious to be, like this is really hitting all the vocals. Starting from there it's taking another route which is inconsistency to me.
  The first object to 00:05:611 in this map is also following the vocals, but not definitely the vocals as there vocals that are skipped, so it's more light. But after 00:05:936 the objects go on 1/2 rhythms and some complex rhythm for Normal. And they kind of sound weird, especially 00:08:530 (1,2,3) .
  The rhythm I suggest you is to follow the guitar. Something like this in the picture below will fit in my opinion.
  SPOILER
2. 00:31:719 (3,4) - If you switch the place of those two in the timeline, the rhythm should sound better in my opinion.
3. 00:53:936 (1) - This is quite a long slider but I think it needs a cut off. This difficulty is an Normal, so maybe more short objects would fit better. This rhythm showing below might fit well:
  SPOILER
4. 00:56:530 (1) - If you have applied the previous point, this needs a change too.
5. 01:13:395 (1) - I think this needs another combo color, as it blends with the color in the video if players play with the video. You can try for yourself in testplay.
  If you'll change it, select the slider, go to the new combo button. You should see an arrow on the left. When you click it, you should be able to change the color. Maybe yellow would fit.
The new combo thing in Easy also applies in this difficulty.

sheela's Hard

00:00:000 - Already beautiful.

Nothing to say to say here. Good difficulty!

Light Insane

00:40:557 (5) - You might want to delete this note. This note doesn't hit anything in the music which is overmapping.

I honestly couldn't find anything else. Very neat light insane!

Insane

00:27:017 (3) - I suggest you move this closer to the previous circle, like a distance of 1.0x. I got confused there because of 00:26:530 (1,2) landing on red ticks and having a 1/1 gap in-between, so I thought (3) was on the red tick.
A smaller spacing will distinguish better the rhythm.
00:27:503 (2,3,4) - Having a smaller spacing than 1.0x would actually fit better with the current section in the music. This section felt going to slow down (which it does) but the big spacing doesn't go very well. It felt force to me.
I do have a suggestion for the pattern, but if you have your own, care to apply yours.
SPOILER

I think this is it! Everything looks very neat, so let's get this rolling!

Haruto

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Joined December 2013

Haruto 2015-07-27T15:52:19+00:00

Go Ranked! have all my stars Ipas!and dont Dissapoint me

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-27T22:09:15+00:00

sheela901 wrote:

Hey Ipas! Since you modded my difficulty I should mod yours!

Normal
00:53:936 (1) - This is quite a long slider but I think it needs a cut off. This difficulty is an Normal, so maybe more short objects would fit better. This rhythm showing below might fit well:
SPOILER
00:56:530 (1) - If you have applied the previous point, this needs a change too They placed 2/1 like this to less emphasis the lowered toned section in the kiai time . It looks fine imo

I think this is it! Everything looks very neat, so let's get this rolling!

[]
Everything should gonna be applied!
Thanks sheela!

Pho

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Joined November 2013

Pho 2015-07-27T23:00:23+00:00

Discussed spacing inconsistencies as well as several rhythm improvements.

IRC log

00:16 Ipas: Hello~
00:17 Pho: o/
00:18 Ipas: Are you open up for mod request?
00:18 Ipas: IRC is fine~
00:24 Pho: um, depends on the map
00:24 Ipas: This..
00:24 *Ipas is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742675 CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Pride Kakumei]
00:27 Pho: do you have any specific diff you want me to check? or general stuff?
00:28 Ipas: Maybe I need on Insane
00:30 Pho: i dl'd without video, so i assume there's no audio track on it
00:30 Ipas: Yeah there's no
00:32 Pho: hmm, plays well on first glance
00:33 Pho: 00:01:071 (3,4) - you start off with this pattern with bad sliderleniency, better, if you arrange the sliders somehow so they complement each other's movements better
00:34 Ipas: Trying
00:34 Pho: like
00:34 Pho: http://puu.sh/jfhav/8878f00845.jpg
00:34 Pho: 00:04:963 (2,3) - this could need some emphasis increasement
00:35 Pho: 00:05:611 (5,1) - since you did the same here for the guitar. try this: http://puu.sh/jfhfl/5e5f4958fb.jpg
00:36 Pho: 00:08:368 (6,1) - 00:09:017 (2,3) - same spacing would be good for consistency with the guitar
00:36 Pho: 00:10:314 (3) - pretty fast slider, i think you could lower down the SV more
00:37 Pho: and maybe set a spinner right after it until 00:12:098 - if you like, it would fit in well
00:37 Pho: 00:19:233 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a bit random spacing lol
00:38 Pho: 00:22:152 (4,5) - slider leniency again. try: http://puu.sh/jfhu9/7231e41f14.jpg
00:39 Ipas: 00:10:314 (3) - Is that fine to turn this into 0.5x SV
00:39 Pho: 00:23:125 (3,4,5,6) - i see the intention behind that jump, but better if you space it equally to the previous circles since it makes the movement kind of awkward
00:40 Pho: 0.65x is pretty smooth
00:40 Pho: 0.5 is a bit sluggish to play
00:41 Ipas: Fix that random spacing
00:41 Pho: 00:38:368 (1,2,3) - more emphasis on 3 than on 2 although 2 has a stronger beat?
00:42 Ipas: That slider leniency is intentional and looks fine imo
00:43 Pho: 00:45:665 (6,7,8,9,1) - very weak to play since it just follows a linear flow. set more narrow angles between these
00:44 Pho: http://puu.sh/jfhPu/3665b4bfcf.jpg
00:45 Ipas: 00:45:665 (6,7,8,9,1) - Looks nice to play, no changes
00:46 Ipas: Uhm
00:46 Pho: it does not feel great, you want higher impact on that triple
00:46 Ipas: Looks like yours is more nicer . Changed
00:46 Pho: ok
00:47 Pho: 01:17:774 (2,3,4) - as the highest diff, im certain you should replace these with triples
00:47 Pho: 01:19:882 (1) - instead of this slider, add a spinner at 01:18:746 - to 01:19:882 - for that synth sound
00:48 Pho: 01:26:692 (3,4,5,6) - gosh, that flow is so broken ;-;
00:48 Ipas: Is that fine to use [http://puu.sh/jfi5z/9ac463fbd9.jpg this] pattern instead using of triplets to all of them?
00:50 Pho: it's okay if you make 1-2 a slider as well
00:50 Ipas: Ok
00:50 Pho: so this pattern follows vocals appropriately
00:51 Ipas: 01:26:530 (2,3,4,5) - How about [http://puu.sh/jfiig/b06024e3c8.jpg this] ?
00:52 Pho: should work
00:52 Ipas: Uhm, how about take a look to another diffs?
00:54 Pho: i don't really have the time to check more diffs ;-; if you have specific questions though you can ask them
00:55 Ipas: Ahh maybe no
00:55 Ipas: Ok
00:55 Ipas: Thanks~

Generally Insane plays fine and looks okay, but you could still need some cleanup on it.
Good luck anyway, hope that short mod helped o/

Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2015-07-28T10:31:43+00:00

[General]
Can I have metadata clarification from a dependable source? because I don't really understand anime and things

[Easy]

00:11:125 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo
00:51:341 (3) - 00:56:530 (3) - 01:01:719 (3) - NC? to keep the consistency
01:00:422 (2) - A bit rotate -10 degeree then move to x:344 y:142? http://puu.sh/jfRYL/c29e96a11f.jpg
01:23:774 (1) - 01:29:287 (1) - No need to NC I guess

[Normal]

00:08:530 (1,2) - Stacking
00:11:125 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo
00:17:611 - Add finish?
01:25:395 - Use clap instead rather than whistle?
01:27:665 - Add clap there?

[sheela's Hard]

Any explaination why use stack laniency 3?
00:12:098 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo
01:05:287 - Forget clap?
01:17:287 - Duplicate inherited point
01:22:638 - Forget whistle?

[Light Insane]

00:12:098 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo
00:15:017 - 00:17:611 - Add finish?
01:20:206 - kiai not snaped
01:22:152 - Forget clap?
01:29:774 - Add clap?

[Insane]

00:12:098 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo
01:05:287 - Forget clap?

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-28T10:45:08+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
[General]
Can I have metadata clarification from a dependable source? because I don't really understand anime and things You can see it here p/4350424

Fixed all!
Thanks for accept my recheck request!

Aerous

1,492 posts

Joined September 2013

Aerous 2015-07-28T13:26:16+00:00

Good luck

!

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-07-28T14:18:50+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
[General]
Can I have metadata clarification from a dependable source? because I don't really understand anime and things

[sheela's Hard]
Any explaination why use stack laniency 3? // There's a stack (01:18:584 (1,2,1) - ) where the objects aren't properly stacked.
00:12:098 - Lower the volume or add S:C1 there? because the drum-hitnormal kinda too loud and not that fit imo // There's already the S:C1, so I guess I'll go with lowering the volume.
01:05:287 - Forget clap?
01:17:287 - Duplicate inherited point
01:22:638 - Forget whistle?

Thanks again for the mod, Mako Sakata! Everything should be fixed.

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Pride Kakumei.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 45017
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 29855
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Pride Kakumei
TitleUnicode:プライド革命
Artist:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
ArtistUnicode:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Creator:Ipas
Version:sheela's Hard
Source:銀魂°
Tags:Revolution Gintama° second 2nd opening tv size NewIpas sheela901
BeatmapID:745569
BeatmapSetID:335503

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.65
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
Video,50,"video.flv"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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143,335,63017,6,0,P|128:283|138:243,1,82.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,140,63341,1,8,0:0:0:0:
217,216,63503,2,0,P|246:175|245:132,1,82.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,48,63828,1,2,0:0:0:0:
301,37,63990,1,8,0:0:0:0:
406,64,64152,1,0,0:0:0:0:
406,64,64233,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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329,207,64638,2,0,L|228:213,1,82.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,289,64963,2,0,L|446:284,1,82.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,366,65287,2,0,L|225:372,1,82.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,333,65611,5,0,0:0:0:0:
228,268,65774,1,2,0:0:0:0:
132,240,65936,2,0,L|43:242,1,82.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,142,66260,2,0,P|155:129|208:147,1,82.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,178,66584,2,0,P|323:191|376:173,1,82.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,114,66909,5,8,0:3:0:0:
385,25,67071,2,0,P|331:18|299:20,1,82.5,8|8,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
228,96,67395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,43,67557,2,0,P|131:101|144:134,1,82.5,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
154,232,67882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,68044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,68125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,68206,6,0,P|241:217|235:255,2,55,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,156,68530,2,0,P|354:167|379:173,2,55,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
291,85,68855,2,0,P|301:67|308:32,2,55,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,117,69179,2,0,P|192:105|163:99,2,55,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,69503,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,70801,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,72098,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,73395,5,6,0:0:0:0:
164,108,73882,5,8,3:0:0:0:
164,108,73963,1,8,3:0:0:0:
164,108,74044,2,0,P|106:87|38:111,2,123.75,8|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
92,245,74692,6,0,L|104:175,1,70.1250013375282,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,234,75017,2,0,L|164:304,1,70.1250013375282,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,365,75341,2,0,L|247:295,1,70.1250013375282
333,271,75665,2,0,L|321:341,1,70.1250013375282,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,271,75990,6,0,P|412:229|304:191,1,140.250002675056,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,160,76476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
229,78,76638,2,0,P|193:92|148:86,1,70.1250013375282,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,57,76963,2,0,P|64:96|61:133,1,70.1250013375282
90,202,77287,6,0,P|144:191|220:247,1,140.250002675056,4|8,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
141,273,77774,2,0,P|168:310|205:328,1,70.1250013375282,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,317,78098,2,0,P|331:301|375:312,1,70.1250013375282,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,349,78422,1,8,0:0:0:0:
463,267,78584,6,0,B|476:206|453:163|453:163|487:146|487:146|461:94|461:94|496:25|496:25|451:0|389:8|336:41,1,420.750008025169,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,27,79882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,27,80206,6,0,P|314:39|247:28,1,82.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,131,80530,2,0,P|294:119|361:130,1,82.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,216,80855,1,8,0:0:0:0:
398,202,81017,1,0,0:0:0:0:
477,263,81179,6,0,L|488:358,2,82.5,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,307,81665,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,307,81746,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,307,81828,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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124,299,82314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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342,136,83287,2,0,L|239:127,1,82.5,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,125,83611,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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125,80,85882,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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404,358,89611,1,2,0:0:0:0:
333,226,89774,5,8,0:0:0:0:
419,133,89936,1,8,0:0:0:0:
321,46,90098,1,8,0:0:0:0:

Tenseki

803 posts

Joined November 2013

Tenseki 2015-07-29T14:20:53+00:00

random short mod from #modreqs
[General]
I think this map need a light hard. Gap of 1~1.3 is the best spread
but Ask talent mapper of these diff's spread gap between normal and hard

[insane]

00:05:287 (3) - base rhythms change, nc
00:05:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - i feel weird about these patterns
00:06:422 - just vocal sounds here, if you mapped for instrument's sound(guitar or drum) you have to check this
00:06:909 - i can hear sound
00:08:044 (5) - anti jump, make a better flow to change its position for better playing
00:10:314 (3) - i can hear guitar sound at 00:10:963 and no sounds at 00:11:125 , yes vocal is here but you already set notes for instrument's sound
and move 00:11:287 (1) - to 00:11:125 and increase length till 00:12:619
00:27:179 (3,1) - nc swap, base rhythms change
00:42:665 (5) - no sound here, remove this
00:46:233 (1) - move to 00:46:233 and increase length till 00:48:422

[light insane]

00:07:882 (4) - anti jump, there is a reason why you make a jumpy?
01:25:719 (3) - change a position to make a better flow for better playing

you need less than 2 mods i think
GL

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-29T22:10:56+00:00

Tenseki wrote:
random short mod from #modreqs
[General]
I think this map need a light hard. Gap of 1~1.3 is the best spread
but Ask talent mapper of these diff's spread gap between normal and hard I'll ask for it

[insane]
00:05:287 (3) - base rhythms change, nc I'm not sure it is really necessary . It'll just making my combo really short here ..
00:05:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - i feel weird about these patterns Ctrl+G'ed 00:06:260 (3,4) - so the pattern is really follows the vocal now
00:06:422 - just vocal sounds here, if you mapped for instrument's sound(guitar or drum) you have to check this
00:06:909 - i can hear sound
00:08:044 (5) - anti jump, make a better flow to change its position for better playing Idk what is the meaning of "better flow" according to you here . I keep it as it is
00:10:314 (3) - i can hear guitar sound at 00:10:963 and no sounds at 00:11:125 , yes vocal is here but you already set notes for instrument's sound
and move 00:11:287 (1) - to 00:11:125 and increase length till 00:12:619 I'm pretty sure that I was completely follow the vocal . You could see the slider shape, it's determinate the vocal imo . For the spinner, it looks fits as it is, so no change for both
00:27:179 (3,1) - nc swap, base rhythms change
00:42:665 (5) - no sound here, remove this Please hear it carefully, I clearly heard it
00:46:233 (1) - move to 00:46:233 and increase length till 00:48:422 No . This spinner pattern is really fits here imo . I can't increase the length because there's a new vocal in same words here 00:47:449 -
[light insane]
00:07:882 (4) - anti jump, there is a reason why you make a jumpy? I make it less jumpy
01:25:719 (3) - change a position to make a better flow for better playing No it's really better
you need less than 2 mods i think orz
GL

No reply means fixed, blue means what written on it, red means denied
Thanks for mod

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-07-30T02:30:35+00:00

[Easy]

01:14:044 (2) - The drum sound is present here. Please emphasize the drum
01:29:287 (3) - NC. You need to be sure because the stronger emphasis weak part.
01:30:098 - Finish

[Normal]

00:26:855 - If you want to emphasize the vocals to add a note here. Otherwise, ignore
00:51:017 (3) - Hmm.. 00:51:179 - This section doesn't need to be emphasized. Replace with different patterns. example 00:48:746 (1,2,3) - here
01:01:395 (3) - same (^)
01:14:368 - Add Drum samplset better imo.
01:18:260 (4) - only vocal emphasized here. so change slider 01:17:936 (3) - here.

SPOILER

[sheela's Hard]

00:18:422 (4,5) - Change location. It doesn't come first, awkward note.
01:28:801 (1) - Haed add finish

[Light Insane]

01:14:530 - add drum sampleset here

[Insane]

01:24:909 (8,9,1) - I think the stream's hard to beat the next pattern. so (1) slider stack?

Call me your get bubbled.

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-07-30T03:29:08+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
[sheela's Hard]

00:18:422 (4,5) - Change location. It doesn't come first, awkward note. // I think this plays fine, or I may not understood this point. Any suggestion for this?
01:28:801 (1) - Haed add finish // Added.

Call me your get bubbled.

Thanks for the mod, HabiHolic. Wow, this is sudden. And this is the second mapset with the same song you're going to icon.

@Ipas: Can you add a finish on the head of 01:28:801 (1) for me? This is an easy task and I think there's no need for the code.

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-30T05:35:06+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
[Normal]

01:18:260 (4) - only vocal emphasized here. so change slider 01:17:936 (3) - here. Did something different
SPOILER

[Insane]

01:24:909 (8,9,1) - I think the stream's hard to beat the next pattern. so (1) slider stack? Well, it is on purpose so yeah no changes

Call me your get bubbled. Yay!

Thanks for mod Habi
No mention = Fixed
@sheela : Okay added

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-07-30T06:41:07+00:00

Ok. Good Job.

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-30T06:43:15+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
Ok. Good Job.

Thanks Habi!
Nice Image xD

Aerous

1,492 posts

Joined September 2013

Aerous 2015-07-31T01:02:19+00:00

Source is wrong btw , its 銀魂゜the one you have right now is not correct ! Just doubled checked with KSHR in my mapset.

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-07-31T03:57:22+00:00

Aerous wrote:
Source is wrong btw , its 銀魂゜the one you have right now is not correct ! Just doubled checked with KSHR in my mapset.

Thanks! Gonna fix it later!

xxdeathx

2,661 posts

Joined July 2013

xxdeathx 2015-08-01T04:21:59+00:00

m4m

[Easy]

00:22:801 (1,2,3) - Poor rhythm, especially the first slider is ignoring everything important. Use 3/2 beat repeat sliders for both measures.
00:33:828 (2) - ^ use 1/1 beat sliders
01:06:909 (1) - This spinner looks really lazy
01:19:882 (1,1) - Why NC? Both of these are in the same measure.

[Normal]

00:31:233 (2,3,4,1) - Maybe a tad complicated rhythm for a normal
01:06:909 (1) - This spinner looks really lazy
01:19:882 (1,1) - Why NC? Both of these are in the same measure.
Too much 1/2 rhythm at the end, spread issues with easy

[Hard]

Almost same SV as light insane, maybe worry
00:20:044 (4,1) - Why don't you blanket this? Not blanketing it is inconsistent with the rest of the section.
00:23:287 (2,3,4) - You should have sliders start on the vocals to stay consistent with 00:24:584 (4,5) - which feels more natural
00:37:719 (3,4) - This looks like you originally had it reversed (ctrl-G) and it was fine then somebody told you to ctrl-g it in a mod and thought it plays edgier and you followed, no, the reverse is better
01:07:395 (3,4) - why not blanket
01:06:909 (1,2,3) - Poor rhythm because you have vocals and drums on white ticks but you have slider starting on weak red tick and ending on the white. Follow active rhythm here.

[Light insane]

01:14:692 (1,2,3,4) - They're technically distance snapped but the placement looks weird and you need to take slider leniency into account
01:16:963 (4) - Why is this spacing much bigger?
01:25:557 (2,3) - This overlap looks ugly

[Insane]

00:12:909 (3,1) - blanketing plays better
00:41:449 (2,3) - slider shouldn't end on 00:41:611 which has strong vocal
00:49:233 (3,4,5) - should be 1/6 snapped
00:53:125 (3,4,5) - ^
00:54:503 (3) - 00:57:017 (3,4,5) - ^
00:55:801 (3) - maybe 1/6?
Many more wrong snapped triples, please check carefully

Make sure you check other diffs for wrong snapped objects too, I know light insane has some.

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2015-08-01T06:05:20+00:00

Wut tau tau udah bubble xD
Ya tapi sesuai janji lah xD biar dapet ticket -w- lol
Cool BG bruh -w-

Let's mod lah~

[Easy]

00:07:233 (3) - Maybe move this to the right a bit for better flow -w- http://puu.sh/jl1D6/48f67ca339.jpg or maybe just simplymake it like this http://puu.sh/jl1Gk/776fdb6da3.jpg but since you don't do it from the start, maybe you won't after all...
00:09:828 (1) - Spinner seems too off honestly... It would be nice to start it here 00:10:314 but I think it would be too short so up to you lah -w-
00:14:044 (3) - Why don't start this slider here 00:13:882 to follow the guitar? It'll make better polarity too...
00:21:828 (3) - I think a circle followed by 1/1 slider would fit better since the slider would be focused on vocal only. With reverse (the current), the vocal got mixed up with background music.
That's all, solid Easy :3

[Normal]

00:07:395 (2) - Make this into a slider wave that identical with 00:06:098 (2) - ? to give a symmetry feeling since the sound they are supporting are the same.
00:16:476 (1) - Extend this here 00:16:801 to support the guitar sound there; furthermore, there's no sound at white tick.
00:29:287 (1) - Maybe keep following vocal since the previous slider is following vocal? move this backward 1/2 tick to do so.
00:35:774 (1,2) - Better ctrl+g, so the slider would be focused on following vocal.
01:10:801 (1) - The reverse don't really make sense tbh .-.

[sheela's Hard]

Long live big circle for Hard (and above)~! \(-w-)/
00:10:314 (2,1) - End the slider at white tick where the "ku" of "ikiteku" falls and start the spinner on blue tick? To give support at the vocal more....
00:37:882 (4) - ctrl+g? .-. the flow now don't really make sense .-.
00:45:179 (2) - Personal taste, but I like this more if you ctrl+g this.
That's all~

[Light Insane]

If there's name for Light Hard (Advanced), I think there's also certain name for Light Insane.... Hyper? .-. Or just name this Insane and use custom name for the hardest diff (or maybe Extra; not that hard tho I think xD)
00:07:557 (3,4) - Why reduce spacing? .-.
00:32:530 (3) - Change this into two circles? because the other 1/2 sliders were used for long vocals...
Lol, I can't mod xD

[Insane]

00:37:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these into star please
00:46:314 (1) - Maybe just start this at blue tick...
.....

Solid map, as expected from pre-BN -w-
GL lah~

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-01T10:14:31+00:00

xxdeathx wrote:
m4m

[Easy]
00:22:801 (1,2,3) - Poor rhythm, especially the first slider is ignoring everything important. Use 3/2 beat repeat sliders for both measures. I use 1/1 beat sliders to replace it . Looks fine
00:33:828 (2) - ^ use 1/1 beat sliders
01:06:909 (1) - This spinner looks really lazy
01:19:882 (1,1) - Why NC? Both of these are in the same measure.
[Normal]
00:31:233 (2,3,4,1) - Maybe a tad complicated rhythm for a normal
01:06:909 (1) - This spinner looks really lazy
01:19:882 (1,1) - Why NC? Both of these are in the same measure.
Too much 1/2 rhythm at the end, spread issues with easy Tried to reduce it
[Light insane]
01:14:692 (1,2,3,4) - They're technically distance snapped but the placement looks weird and you need to take slider leniency into account
01:16:963 (4) - Why is this spacing much bigger?
01:25:557 (2,3) - This overlap looks ugly
[Insane]
00:12:909 (3,1) - blanketing plays better
00:41:449 (2,3) - slider shouldn't end on 00:41:611 which has strong vocal
00:49:233 (3,4,5) - should be 1/6 snapped
00:53:125 (3,4,5) - ^
00:54:503 (3) - 00:57:017 (3,4,5) - ^
00:55:801 (3) - maybe 1/6?
Many more wrong snapped triples, please check carefully
Make sure you check other diffs for wrong snapped objects too, I know light insane has some. Regarding to this.... Anyway, thanks for mod!

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:
Wut tau tau udah bubble xD
Ya tapi sesuai janji lah xD biar dapet ticket -w- lol
Cool BG bruh -w-

Let's mod lah~

[Easy]
00:07:233 (3) - Maybe move this to the right a bit for better flow -w- http://puu.sh/jl1D6/48f67ca339.jpg or maybe just simplymake it like this http://puu.sh/jl1Gk/776fdb6da3.jpg but since you don't do it from the start, maybe you won't after all... I won't . I hate that placement if it's going upwards
00:09:828 (1) - Spinner seems too off honestly... It would be nice to start it here 00:10:314 but I think it would be too short so up to you lah -w- Well, it's fine ..
00:14:044 (3) - Why don't start this slider here 00:13:882 to follow the guitar? It'll make better polarity too... The current section brings guitar and drum sound, so it'll more better to emphasize it rather than Ignore it
00:21:828 (3) - I think a circle followed by 1/1 slider would fit better since the slider would be focused on vocal only. With reverse (the current), the vocal got mixed up with background music. Isn't that unique?
That's all, solid Easy :3

[Normal]
00:07:395 (2) - Make this into a slider wave that identical with 00:06:098 (2) - ? to give a symmetry feeling since the sound they are supporting are the same.
00:16:476 (1) - Extend this here 00:16:801 to support the guitar sound there; furthermore, there's no sound at white tick. 00:15:503 (2,3,1) - They're consistent, so I won't ruin it . Actually, I'm not following the guitar here
00:29:287 (1) - Maybe keep following vocal since the previous slider is following vocal? move this backward 1/2 tick to do so. I don't want to ignore this tick 00:29:287 - so yeah
00:35:774 (1,2) - Better ctrl+g, so the slider would be focused on following vocal.
01:10:801 (1) - The reverse don't really make sense tbh .-.

[Light Insane]
If there's name for Light Hard (Advanced), I think there's also certain name for Light Insane.... Hyper? .-. Or just name this Insane and use custom name for the hardest diff (or maybe Extra; not that hard tho I think xD)
00:07:557 (3,4) - Why reduce spacing? .-. The vocal seems fits with ow spacing here
00:32:530 (3) - Change this into two circles? because the other 1/2 sliders were used for long vocals... Well, I like this usage
Lol, I can't mod xD

[Insane]
00:37:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these into star please TRYING BUT IT'S SO HARD SO I'M SURE THAT MY CHANGES JUST REALLY SMALL HERE
00:46:314 (1) - Maybe just start this at blue tick... The long sound began louder at red tick
.....

Solid map, as expected from pre-BN -w- Please....
GL lah~

Thanks for mod!

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-08-01T15:12:57+00:00

xxdeathx wrote:
m4m

[Hard]
Almost same SV as light insane, maybe worry // IamKwaN said it's fine.
00:20:044 (4,1) - Why don't you blanket this? Not blanketing it is inconsistent with the rest of the section.
00:23:287 (2,3,4) - You should have sliders start on the vocals to stay consistent with 00:24:584 (4,5) - which feels more natural
00:37:719 (3,4) - This looks like you originally had it reversed (ctrl-G) and it was fine then somebody told you to ctrl-g it in a mod and thought it plays edgier and you followed, no, the reverse is better
01:07:395 (3,4) - why not blanket // ~~I like the current pattern.~~ After applying the next point, I made a blanket pattern to them.
01:06:909 (1,2,3) - Poor rhythm because you have vocals and drums on white ticks but you have slider starting on weak red tick and ending on the white. Follow active rhythm here.

Thanks for the mod, xxdeathx! I guess everything is applied except the SV thing.

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:
Wut tau tau udah bubble xD
Ya tapi sesuai janji lah xD biar dapet ticket -w- lol
Cool BG bruh -w-

Let's mod lah~

[sheela's Hard]
Long live big circle for Hard (and above)~! \(-w-)/
00:10:314 (2,1) - End the slider at white tick where the "ku" of "ikiteku" falls and start the spinner on blue tick? To give support at the vocal more.... // I think the current is fine. I want to start a spinner on the "ku".
00:37:882 (4) - ctrl+g? .-. the flow now don't really make sense .-. // Fixed in previous mod.
00:45:179 (2) - Personal taste, but I like this more if you ctrl+g this. // I also like this.
That's all~

Solid map, as expected from pre-BN -w-
GL lah~

Thank you for the mod, hanyuu_nanodesu!

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osu file format v14

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Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-01T15:17:20+00:00

Updated!
Maybe need to rebub lol

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2015-08-01T19:16:37+00:00

Responding to your request in-game~

Easy:

00:09:828 (1) – This spinner starts a bit too late imo (and it feels rather short). Maybe shorten this slider: 00:09:179 (2) – to this tick: 00:09:503 – and then start the spinner here: 00:09:665 –
Picture
00:21:179 (2) –Won’t placing a slider here instead work better? Like this:
Picture
I’m a tiny bit concerned about the length of some of the spinners in this diff, since it is the easiest diff.

Normal:

00:18:909 (3,1) –Avoid this overlap? You can try to do it by creating a different kind of slider. Like this:
Picture
00:25:071 (3,2) –This overlap is hurting my eyes, lol. Ctrl+G 00:25:395 (1) – so you can continue mapping on the rightside of the grid. That will avoid the overlap.
Picture
I also moved 00:25:071 (3) – to maintain a nice flow.
00:31:557 (3) –I’m not really a fan of this rhythm. Rather remove the repeat, then move the slider so it starts on this tick: 00:31:719 – and ends on this tick: 00:31:882 –
Picture
You can then also change 00:31:233 (2) – into a short slider if you want to emphasize this beat as well: 00:31:395 –
00:31:233 (2,3,1) –Nasty overlapping.  You crammed those three notes into one space on the grid. Try something like this instead?
Picture
00:32:855 (2,2) –In case you don’t follow my above suggestion: Why don’t you stack here?
00:38:855 (2,3,1) –Please try to avoid the overlapping here. I know it might sound silly, but while I’m in the editor it just looks untidy and unnecessary.
01:03:017 (5) –I think you have to place a new combo here to be consistent with 00:52:638 (1,2) –
01:20:206 (2) –Hm, NC here? Since there’s a strong beat on that note.
01:22:476 (1,2,3) –I don’t really like this rhythm . . . Perhaps try something like this instead:
Picture
Some of the overlappings are my biggest concern in this diff.

sheela’s Hard:

00:09:665 (1) –Change this slider into a straight slider to support 00:09:179 (2) – more. Like this:
Picture
00:21:179 (4) –I would rather add new combo here and remove new combo here: 00:21:341 (1) –
00:24:584 (3) –The position of this slider creates a rather weird flow. Maybe something like this instead?
Picture
00:31:719 (4) –Stack this circle on the head of 00:30:584 (1) – ?
00:44:206 (3,4,5,6) –The placement of these notes look too random and the flow is not that nice imo. Rather place them in a half-circle shape or something. Like this:
Picture
00:44:206 (3,4) –Stack them? Just for tidyness reasons.

Insane:

00:06:746 (5) –I don’t like the overlap. Maybe try this to avoid the overlap with 00:05:936 (1,2) –
Picture

I’m not really that sure if this map is ready for ranking yet, but call me back nonetheless and we’ll see~

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-01T22:19:08+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Responding to your request in-game~

Easy:
00:09:828 (1) – This spinner starts a bit too late imo (and it feels rather short). Maybe shorten this slider: 00:09:179 (2) – to this tick: 00:09:503 – and then start the spinner here: 00:09:665 –
Picture
00:21:179 (2) –Won’t placing a slider here instead work better? Like this:
Picture
I’m a tiny bit concerned about the length of some of the spinners in this diff, since it is the easiest diff. You can see Aerous' mapset . His mapset has same spinner length with me . So, I just extend this spinner 01:06:909 (1) -

Normal:
00:18:909 (3,1) –Avoid this overlap? You can try to do it by creating a different kind of slider. Like this:
Picture
00:25:071 (3,2) –This overlap is hurting my eyes, lol. Ctrl+G 00:25:395 (1) – so you can continue mapping on the rightside of the grid. That will avoid the overlap. I move 00:25:071 (3) - to the right side, and overlap avoided
Picture
I also moved 00:25:071 (3) – to maintain a nice flow.
00:31:557 (3) –I’m not really a fan of this rhythm. Rather remove the repeat, then move the slider so it starts on this tick: 00:31:719 – and ends on this tick: 00:31:882 –
Picture
You can then also change 00:31:233 (2) – into a short slider if you want to emphasize this beat as well: 00:31:395 –
00:31:233 (2,3,1) –Nasty overlapping.  You crammed those three notes into one space on the grid. Try something like this instead? Well, it's almost invisible in-game . Your example is too short, because remapping this part would be so hard
Picture
00:32:855 (2,2) –In case you don’t follow my above suggestion: Why don’t you stack here?
00:38:855 (2,3,1) –Please try to avoid the overlapping here. I know it might sound silly, but while I’m in the editor it just looks untidy and unnecessary. It's fine in-game
01:03:017 (5) –I think you have to place a new combo here to be consistent with 00:52:638 (1,2) –
01:20:206 (2) –Hm, NC here? Since there’s a strong beat on that note.
01:22:476 (1,2,3) –I don’t really like this rhythm . . . Perhaps try something like this instead:
Picture
Some of the overlappings are my biggest concern in this diff.

Insane:
00:06:746 (5) –I don’t like the overlap. Maybe try this to avoid the overlap with 00:05:936 (1,2) – 00:05:936 (1) - Moved away this circle then stack this circle 00:06:098 (2) - to the tail of 00:06:746 (5) -
Picture

I’m not really that sure if this map is ready for ranking yet, but call me back nonetheless and we’ll see~ Ok~

Thanks for mod
No reply=fixed

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-08-02T03:15:21+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Responding to your request in-game~

sheela’s Hard:
00:09:665 (1) –Change this slider into a straight slider to support 00:09:179 (2) – more. Like this:
Picture
00:21:179 (4) –I would rather add new combo here and remove new combo here: 00:21:341 (1) – // I'll keep the consistency with the pattern.
00:24:584 (3) –The position of this slider creates a rather weird flow. Maybe something like this instead?
Picture
00:31:719 (4) –Stack this circle on the head of 00:30:584 (1) – ? // I like the current pattern better.
00:44:206 (3,4,5,6) –The placement of these notes look too random and the flow is not that nice imo. Rather place them in a half-circle shape or something. Like this: // Did something on my own.
Picture
00:44:206 (3,4) –Stack them? Just for tidyness reasons.

I’m not really that sure if this map is ready for ranking yet, but call me back nonetheless and we’ll see~

Thanks for the mod, -Nya-! If you don't see anything written after your points, it means that they got applied.

my

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Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2015-08-02T03:48:16+00:00

[easy]
00:03:665 - this is a really big note imo, shouldnt ignore it to follow vocals, something like this works a lot better imo

00:05:936 (1,2,3) - i dont really get why you wouldnt use symmetry here, it looks so much nicer and cleaner
00:08:530 (1,2) - this flow is meh
00:13:071 (2,3) - 3/2 spacing is highly unrecommended in easies, try this instead

00:15:017 (1,2) - ^

00:23:774 (2) - this overlap is really evident in actual gameplay, u should unstack it
00:24:098 (1) - unneccessary NC
00:43:557 (1) - this slider isnt following anything, the triples on the 3rd beat is a lot more prominent imo, this rhythm allows u to map that and also emphasize the vocals after

01:28:314 (2,1) - 3/2 again
01:29:287 (1) - remove NC

some rhythms i didnt really get but whatever

[normal]
NCing is a mess, sometimes it lasts for 2 measures and others it lasts for 1. please fix that
00:03:341 (1) - same as easy
00:09:179 (3,4) - make up your mind if you're gunna stack or spread your 1/2s apart, dont switch back and forth between them when they're the same rhythms. (same 00:30:422 (3,1) -
00:12:422 (1,2) - this isnt great flow :>
00:12:422 (1,2,1,2,3) - 00:15:017 (1,2,3,1) - these 2 are literally the same beats repeated again, yet you used different rhythms to express them..? i suggest fixing the 2nd set up because the 1/2 sliders have wrong empasis (ie. 00:15:990 (3) - crash is on the slidertail)
00:31:233 (2,3) - this rhythm is actually so unfitting.. use this instead

00:34:152 (2,3) - 00:35:774 (1,2) - i actually dont know why you want to break your flow so much like this
00:38:368 (1,2,3,1,2) - inconsistent rhythming again, dont tell me that its different because of the vocals, but the truth is, the guitar still exists in the 2nd part so its really confusing
00:53:936 (1) - why is there a need for such simplified rhythms? this isnt easy, its unfitting imo
01:17:287 (1,2,3) - use some symmetry.. it makes it look so much nicer. also stack this for consistency
01:20:206 (1,2,3) - here you follow instrumentals, 01:22:476 (1,2,3) - but here u follow vocals.. 01:23:774 (1,2,3,4) - then back to instrumentals // where is the consistency?
01:22:152 (2,1) - this flows awkwardly too imo

a lot of flow breaks that dont play well and also rhythming can be improved too if u ask me

[sheela]
hai sheela~
00:10:638 - u might wanna fix this to soft sampleset or something cuz rn i just hear a 'tick' here lol
00:23:611 (3,4,1) - imo the flow break should be on (1) to emphasize the vocal instead, the only thing on (4) is the guitar and imo doesnt feel nice
00:24:422 (2,3) - mmm this flow break is also kinda meh too orz
00:53:449 (5) - jump is a bit big imo?
01:18:584 (1) - why not try slowing the sv here? a fast slider doesnt fit the gradual buildup of the music i think

[Light Insane]
00:08:044 (4) - slight jump here to match 00:06:746 (4) -
00:10:314 (3) - should try different sampleset for that slidertick
00:24:746 (4) - if u ask me i think the jump should be on 00:25:071 (6) - instead..
00:26:044 (3) - also consider nerfing this
00:49:719 (6,7) - jump emphasis should be other way around to match the kicks
00:51:179 (6) - wooah nerf please
00:52:314 (6,7,1,2) - ??? this spacing doesnt make musical sense at all..
00:57:828 (1) - thats a big jump o.o
01:14:692 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - similar thing to what i said in normal.. u should follow vocals only or instruments only, not switch back and forth
01:20:206 (1,2,3,4) - really weird flow :>
01:22:476 (1) - remove finish sounds better
01:24:098 (3) - holyy calm down with the jump
01:24:422 (5) - but finish sounds good here
01:29:774 (4,5,6) - emphasis should be on these 3 instead, right now you are emphasizing (3) and (5), which is not how the music plays.

[Insane]
00:06:260 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing
00:07:557 (3,4) - ctrl+g this rhythm plays A LOT better
00:10:314 (3) - same as other diffs
00:12:909 (3,4,5,6,1) - this flow :<
00:14:206 (3,4) - why's this spacing out so much compared to 00:12:909 (3) - ? its the same thing..
00:21:341 (1) - why lower spacing? this should be larger to match vocals
00:59:774 (4) - probably wanna use some copy paste symmetry or something, right now it doesnt look so good
01:14:692 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing, this is a good example because everything here is the same and yet the mapping says otherwise
01:29:611 (4,5,6,7) - this shouldnt be a square... (5,6,7) are much more emphasized than (4)

there was way too many flow breaks in this diff i just stopped pointing them out, i really think you should calm down with them because imo they dont play well at all.

GLHF

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-08-02T04:00:13+00:00

Gaia wrote:
[sheela]
hai sheela~ // Hey Gaia!
00:10:638 - u might wanna fix this to soft sampleset or something cuz rn i just hear a 'tick' here lol
00:23:611 (3,4,1) - imo the flow break should be on (1) to emphasize the vocal instead, the only thing on (4) is the guitar and imo doesnt feel nice
00:24:422 (2,3) - mmm this flow break is also kinda meh too orz // This should be fixed after changing something to the previous point.
00:53:449 (5) - jump is a bit big imo? // This is fine I guess. I also did it to 00:52:476 (1) .
01:18:584 (1) - why not try slowing the sv here? a fast slider doesnt fit the gradual buildup of the music i think // The SV is now 0.7x.

GLHF

Thank you for the mod, Gaia! Anything I've written is comments, otherwise it's applied.

pandaro

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Ipas

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Ipas 2015-08-02T05:48:08+00:00

Gaia wrote:
[easy]
00:03:665 - this is a really big note imo, shouldnt ignore it to follow vocals, something like this works a lot better imo
00:05:936 (1,2,3) - i dont really get why you wouldnt use symmetry here, it looks so much nicer and cleaner
00:08:530 (1,2) - this flow is meh Well, it's fine for me (actually I don't get what do you try to saying here)
00:13:071 (2,3) - 3/2 spacing is highly unrecommended in easies, try this instead Did something from previous mod
00:15:017 (1,2) - ^
00:23:774 (2) - this overlap is really evident in actual gameplay, u should unstack it
00:24:098 (1) - unneccessary NC
00:43:557 (1) - this slider isnt following anything, the triples on the 3rd beat is a lot more prominent imo, this rhythm allows u to map that and also emphasize the vocals after
01:28:314 (2,1) - 3/2 again
01:29:287 (1) - remove NC

some rhythms i didnt really get but whatever

[normal]
NCing is a mess, sometimes it lasts for 2 measures and others it lasts for 1. please fix that
00:03:341 (1) - same as easy
00:09:179 (3,4) - make up your mind if you're gunna stack or spread your 1/2s apart, dont switch back and forth between them when they're the same rhythms. (same 00:30:422 (3,1) -
00:12:422 (1,2) - this isnt great flow :>
00:12:422 (1,2,1,2,3) - 00:15:017 (1,2,3,1) - these 2 are literally the same beats repeated again, yet you used different rhythms to express them..? i suggest fixing the 2nd set up because the 1/2 sliders have wrong empasis (ie. 00:15:990 (3) - crash is on the slidertail)
00:31:233 (2,3) - this rhythm is actually so unfitting.. use this instead
00:34:152 (2,3) - 00:35:774 (1,2) - i actually dont know why you want to break your flow so much like this
00:38:368 (1,2,3,1,2) - inconsistent rhythming again, dont tell me that its different because of the vocals, but the truth is, the guitar still exists in the 2nd part so its really confusing
00:53:936 (1) - why is there a need for such simplified rhythms? this isnt easy, its unfitting imo
01:17:287 (1,2,3) - use some symmetry.. it makes it look so much nicer. also stack this for consistency
01:20:206 (1,2,3) - here you follow instrumentals, 01:22:476 (1,2,3) - but here u follow vocals.. 01:23:774 (1,2,3,4) - then back to instrumentals // where is the consistency? I made changes on 01:22:476 (1,2,3) - as well as I can
01:22:152 (2,1) - this flows awkwardly too imo

a lot of flow breaks that dont play well and also rhythming can be improved too if u ask me

[Light Insane]
00:08:044 (4) - slight jump here to match 00:06:746 (4) -
00:10:314 (3) - should try different sampleset for that slidertick
00:24:746 (4) - if u ask me i think the jump should be on 00:25:071 (6) - instead..
00:26:044 (3) - also consider nerfing this Idk how to nerfing it
00:49:719 (6,7) - jump emphasis should be other way around to match the kicks
00:51:179 (6) - wooah nerf please
00:52:314 (6,7,1,2) - ??? this spacing doesnt make musical sense at all.. Idk how to fix it, I changed the flow a bit
00:57:828 (1) - thats a big jump o.o
01:14:692 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - similar thing to what i said in normal.. u should follow vocals only or instruments only, not switch back and forth
01:20:206 (1,2,3,4) - really weird flow :> No it's good
01:22:476 (1) - remove finish sounds better
01:24:098 (3) - holyy calm down with the jump
01:24:422 (5) - but finish sounds good here
01:29:774 (4,5,6) - emphasis should be on these 3 instead, right now you are emphasizing (3) and (5), which is not how the music plays.

[Insane]
00:06:260 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing
00:07:557 (3,4) - ctrl+g this rhythm plays A LOT better
00:10:314 (3) - same as other diffs
00:12:909 (3,4,5,6,1) - this flow :<
00:14:206 (3,4) - why's this spacing out so much compared to 00:12:909 (3) - ? its the same thing..
00:21:341 (1) - why lower spacing? this should be larger to match vocals
00:59:774 (4) - probably wanna use some copy paste symmetry or something, right now it doesnt look so good
01:14:692 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing, this is a good example because everything here is the same and yet the mapping says otherwise
01:29:611 (4,5,6,7) - this shouldnt be a square... (5,6,7) are much more emphasized than (4)

there was way too many flow breaks in this diff i just stopped pointing them out, i really think you should calm down with them because imo they dont play well at all. Everything looks fine to me, this is my style :<

GLHF

Thanks for mod, no reply=fixed
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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-08-05T01:15:39+00:00

[Insane]

00:06:746 (5) - 1/2 slider + circle would be better here imo. Having 00:07:071 - Clickable would be a nice lead into the next pattern and make it more consistent with 00:08:044 (5,6) - .
00:09:017 (2,3) - This doesn't really make sense to me. 3 isn't emphasized. There's just that drum hit on 3, the vocals land on 2 and carry onto 3 so if anything, this should be mapped to something that flows well if you want to follow the vocals.
00:11:287 (1) - could end spinner at 00:12:260 - Theres a sound there.
00:19:882 (7,8) - Jump doesn't make much sense imo... nothing to emphasize on 8.
00:22:801 (1,2,3,4) - Ehh, i think its better to map normal jumps rather than have something linear/curving like this. You don't do that for 00:24:098 (1,2,3,4) -
01:00:260 (6,1) - No jump here?
01:06:746 (7,1) - ^
01:25:071 (1,2,3) - 2 isn't emphasized in the music tho, you should map a jump to 3 instead for the drum hit.

[Light Insane]

00:07:557 (3) - This rhythm is quite awkward... You should make 00:07:719 - clickable. Could just recycle the rhythm from 00:05:936 (1,2,3) - cuz that works pretty well
00:09:017 - Awkward to just leave this unmapped...
00:16:963 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Diff spike here... You don't map any streams to the Kiai sections but you do it here ;c.

pretty good.

[sheela's Hard]

00:23:611 (3,4) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm here ;o. I think having 00:23:774 - clickable is better than where 4 currently is since it's a stronger drum beat.
00:41:936 (4,1,2) - I think a slight jump from 4>1 would be better than from 1>2 since you already have a flow break going with slider 2.

nice ;o.

[Normal]

00:21:179 (2) - You could extend this to a 1/1 slider to map 00:21:503 - .
00:31:882 (4) - This should be NC'ed and remove NC on 00:32:206 (1) -
00:38:368 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This whole part is just simple 1/2 rhythm, mapping 3/2 rhythm here just feels weird for me And i love using 3/2 rhythm. But you miss out the white ticks on 00:39:017 - and 00:40:314 - ...
00:48:746 - Your Entire Kiai section is very easy compared to the rest of the map. You use 1/2 rhythm here, but they lack any density because you don't have 1/2 clicks here. What i mean is stuff like 00:15:990 (3,4) - Where players have to click, and click again in 1/2 a beat. These are more challenging than regular 1/2 rhythm and having these in Kiai would really benefit this diff.
Your NC pattern in this diff is really inconsistent.
00:00:747 (1) - You begin by NC'ing every 2 measures.
00:05:936 (1) - Then swap to every 1 measure 00:07:233 (1) -
00:17:611 (1) - Then switch back to every 2 measures...
00:22:801 (1) - And then back to every measure...

[Easy]

00:21:828 (3) - I would have done circle > 1/1 slider instead, to make 00:22:152 - clickable.
00:37:719 (4,1) - Wanna fix the tail of this blanket? lol. I much prefer your slider art to a blanket slider btw xD.

Good luck!

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-08-05T01:27:24+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[sheela's Hard]

00:23:611 (3,4) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm here ;o. I think having 00:23:774 - clickable is better than where 4 currently is since it's a stronger drum beat. // Okay.
00:41:936 (4,1,2) - I think a slight jump from 4>1 would be better than from 1>2 since you already have a flow break going with slider 2. // A jump between (4) and (1) is kind of weird when a strong drum beat is on 00:42:422 - . So I leave it there.
nice ;o. // yey

Good luck!

Thank you for the mod, monstrata! Only the last suggestion has not been applied.

http://puu.sh/jpIm0/6dd72abf17.osu

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-05T05:39:42+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[Insane]

00:06:746 (5) - 1/2 slider + circle would be better here imo. Having 00:07:071 - Clickable would be a nice lead into the next pattern and make it more consistent with 00:08:044 (5,6) - . 00:08:044 (5) - Extended to 1/1 slider
00:09:017 (2,3) - This doesn't really make sense to me. 3 isn't emphasized. There's just that drum hit on 3, the vocals land on 2 and carry onto 3 so if anything, this should be mapped to something that flows well if you want to follow the vocals. Deleted (2)
00:11:287 (1) - could end spinner at 00:12:260 - Theres a sound there. The current one have more bigger sound, and it's really fits to the song and made up some rest time here
00:19:882 (7,8) - Jump doesn't make much sense imo... nothing to emphasize on 8. 00:19:882 (7,8) - Stacked
00:22:801 (1,2,3,4) - Ehh, i think its better to map normal jumps rather than have something linear/curving like this. You don't do that for 00:24:098 (1,2,3,4) - My variation isn't that bad :C
01:00:260 (6,1) - No jump here?
01:06:746 (7,1) - ^ I'm lazy lool
01:25:071 (1,2,3) - 2 isn't emphasized in the music tho, you should map a jump to 3 instead for the drum hit. 01:25:557 (2,4) - Stacked them up and 01:25:719 (3) - Ctrl+G this slider
[Light Insane]

00:07:557 (3) - This rhythm is quite awkward... You should make 00:07:719 - clickable. Could just recycle the rhythm from 00:05:936 (1,2,3) - cuz that works pretty well
00:09:017 - Awkward to just leave this unmapped...
00:16:963 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Diff spike here... You don't map any streams to the Kiai sections but you do it here ;c.
pretty good.

[Normal]

00:21:179 (2) - You could extend this to a 1/1 slider to map 00:21:503 - . No, it's sounded very awkward
00:31:882 (4) - This should be NC'ed and remove NC on 00:32:206 (1) -
00:38:368 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This whole part is just simple 1/2 rhythm, mapping 3/2 rhythm here just feels weird for me And i love using 3/2 rhythm. But you miss out the white ticks on 00:39:017 - and 00:40:314 - ... But they fits really well
00:48:746 - Your Entire Kiai section is very easy compared to the rest of the map. You use 1/2 rhythm here, but they lack any density because you don't have 1/2 clicks here. What i mean is stuff like 00:15:990 (3,4) - Where players have to click, and click again in 1/2 a beat. These are more challenging than regular 1/2 rhythm and having these in Kiai would really benefit this diff. I'll keep it for now, Idk how to make it like that since the rhythm is very fits now
Your NC pattern in this diff is really inconsistent.
00:00:747 (1) - You begin by NC'ing every 2 measures.
00:05:936 (1) - Then swap to every 1 measure 00:07:233 (1) -
00:17:611 (1) - Then switch back to every 2 measures...
00:22:801 (1) - And then back to every measure... I just put NC where they looks really fits, there's no such a thing every downbeat or anything
[Easy]

00:21:828 (3) - I would have done circle > 1/1 slider instead, to make 00:22:152 - clickable.
00:37:719 (4,1) - Wanna fix the tail of this blanket? lol. I much prefer your slider art to a blanket slider btw xD. No slider art please

Good luck!

No reply=Fix , Blue=What written on it/fixed on my way, Red=Denied
Thanks!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2015-08-05T16:50:57+00:00

No kudos
Quick recheck~

The hard is conflicting with the other diffs' title, source and tags. Please fix this.
There are still a few overlaps in Normal that I really want you to try and avoid (you want your diff to look as neat and tidy as possible, I presume) Overlaps: 00:31:395 (3,1) - 00:39:341 (3,1) - 00:42:909 (3,1) - 01:01:395 (3,1) - 01:20:530 (2,1) -

Hm, I guess that's all.
Call me back~

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-08-05T16:58:09+00:00

Oops! Here's a new file: http://puu.sh/jqreC/918e55bbee.osu

@-Nya-: If you're going to qualify this, another mapaet has been qualified with same song: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/335534. You have to wait the map to get ranked or disqualified.

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Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-05T22:33:02+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
No kudos
Quick recheck~

The hard is conflicting with the other diffs' title, source and tags. Please fix this. Fixed
There are still a few overlaps in Normal that I really want you to try and avoid (you want your diff to look as neat and tidy as possible, I presume) Overlaps: 00:31:395 (3,1) - The only one that possible is just this one, avoided . The rest is denied 00:39:341 (3,1) - 00:42:909 (3,1) - 01:01:395 (3,1) - 01:20:530 (2,1) -

Hm, I guess that's all.
Call me back~

Thanks!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2015-08-06T15:22:30+00:00

Ok, I guess this map is good to go now.

Rebubbled~

To next BN who's going to rank: I'm a teeny bit worried about some of the spinners' length in Easy. I think it's rankable, but of course everyone has their opinion so just keep an eye out for that.

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Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-07T07:17:08+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Ok, I guess this map is good to go now.

Rebubbled~

To next BN who's going to rank: I'm a teeny bit worried about some of the sliders' length in Easy. I think it's rankable, but of course everyone has their opinion so just keep an eye out for that.

Sorry for late reply, Thanks!

Rukaru

829 posts

Joined April 2012

Rukaru 2015-08-07T08:59:39+00:00

hello, sorry for a late mod even though we agreed to do M4M and you already mod mine first.
here's my mod. it is short and probably not helpful at all. no kd if that were the case.

[Easy]

00:03:665 (2) - this one sounds weird and seems forced because the long sound start in (1) so you have to make (1) as a 2/1 reverse slider or a full 4/1 slider if you want. I recommend 2/1 tho.
00:24:098 (3,4) - since this have same feel with 00:22:801 (1,2) - why don't you make the same rhythm too? I think it fits well.
01:28:314 (2) - just my preference, I would emphasize the loud sound at 01:28:801 by adding a note or slider. having loud and strong sound in reverse in easy diff is just not right. of course the decision is yours.

[Normal]

00:03:341 (5,1) - same with my suggestion in Easy. it is fine to have some exact rhythm across the difficulties.
00:37:071 (3) - how about change this to 2 circle? well, because drum.
01:20:530 (2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - err....well, tbh I found this bad because it feel forced with the music especially in 01:20:855 (3) slider tail - and 01:22:476 (1,2) slider tail too. you did a good job at the first part. I wish you did the same thing here.

[sheela's Hard]

00:10:314 (2) - the tail is noticeable, it is still loud enough. the sound stands out because calm part of the song. why don't you silence this by using 5% volume? ranking criteria allows slider tail to be silenced if I remember. cmiiw | OR you can do the same thing like in Light Insane.
00:39:017 (3) - how about change this to 1/2 slider and a note?

[Light Insane]

00:49:882 (7) - personal preference, don't stack. no reason, really. xD
01:15:828 - you should add a note here. I didn't expect anti-jump when playing first time here.

[Insane]
clear~

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bubbled hue. go for rank! \o/

Ipas

806 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

Ipas 2015-08-08T10:46:06+00:00

Rukaru wrote:
hello, sorry for a late mod even though we agreed to do M4M and you already mod mine first.
here's my mod. it is short and probably not helpful at all. no kd if that were the case.

[Easy]
00:03:665 (2) - this one sounds weird and seems forced because the long sound start in (1) so you have to make (1) as a 2/1 reverse slider or a full 4/1 slider if you want. I recommend 2/1 tho. I follow the drum here, it's fine
00:24:098 (3,4) - since this have same feel with 00:22:801 (1,2) - why don't you make the same rhythm too? I think it fits well. Variation please
01:28:314 (2) - just my preference, I would emphasize the loud sound at 01:28:801 by adding a note or slider. having loud and strong sound in reverse in easy diff is just not right. of course the decision is yours. I open up for suggestions here . I feel like what I do is just making up a bad polarity here, because the cymbal sound chime at the red tick
[Normal]
00:03:341 (5,1) - same with my suggestion in Easy. it is fine to have some exact rhythm across the difficulties. Same as Easy too
00:37:071 (3) - how about change this to 2 circle? well, because drum. The vocal is similar there 00:37:071 (3,4) - , so keeping it will be fine
01:20:530 (2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - err....well, tbh I found this bad because it feel forced with the music especially in 01:20:855 (3) slider tail - and 01:22:476 (1,2) slider tail too. you did a good job at the first part. I wish you did the same thing here. I can't see trouble here . Well, I open up for suggestion tho
[Light Insane]
00:49:882 (7) - personal preference, don't stack. no reason, really. xD I don't need movement to 00:49:882 (7) - so yeah
01:15:828 - you should add a note here. I didn't expect anti-jump when playing first time here. The momentum stop is very fits here, adding a note will ruin all of my rhythm here
[Insane]
clear~

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Light Insane best!

bubbled hue. go for rank! \o/

Thanks for mod!

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